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And The Fandom Rejoiced is now Sugar Wiki and not to be wicked in that way.


* AndTheFandomRejoiced: The anime is finally getting released on DVD with a Japanese audio along with the English audio dub.
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* CompleteMonster: Gihren Zabi, the Universal Century's very own AdolfHitler--a comparison he accepts with pride.

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* CompleteMonster: Gihren Zabi, the Universal Century's very own AdolfHitler--a comparison he accepts with pride. A cold-blooded social climber, Gihren is [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans prepared]] to utilise weapons of mass destruction, embrace a MasterRace philosophy and [[spoiler:commit {{patricide}}]] if it means he ends up [[TakeOverTheWorld ruling the world]].



* MoralEventHorizon: Many found that Char crossed it when he [[spoiler:arranged Garma's death]]. As for Gihren Zabi, pick something that he does. Anything.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Many found that Char crossed it when he [[spoiler:arranged Garma's death]]. As for Gihren Zabi, pick something that Zabi crosses it at Garma's funeral, when he does. Anything.turns his younger brother's sendoff into a self-aggrandizing political rally, then reveals himself as a CompleteMonster when he [[spoiler:murders his father.]]
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** One of the major points of the ''Gihren's Greed'' video game series is to let the player explore these. For example, a Zeon player can choose to give Ramba Ral his Doms[[hottip:*:in canon. M'Quve denied the request entirely for political reasons]], which leads to his defeating White Base and capturing the Gundam. More recent games take this a step further and allow you to save characters like [[spoiler:Ryu, Sleggar, Garma and Kycilia]] from canonical deaths, making them usable during the events of ''ZetaGundam'' (complete with aged-up character portraits).
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Made it more neutral. It originally sounded like flame baiting.


* HypeBacklash: After listening to UC fans bash the other continuities constantly, and brag about the purity and unsurpassable awesomeness of the Universal Century and MSG in particular, it can be somewhat dissapointing to watch the show, not because it's bad, but because it cannot live up to being the end all be all of anime that it's fans make it out to be. The same can be said for individual characters, particularly Amuro and Char.

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* HypeBacklash: After listening to UC fans bash the other continuities constantly, and brag about the purity and unsurpassable awesomeness of the Universal Century and MSG in particular, promote Mobile Suit Gundam 0079, it can be somewhat dissapointing disappointing for some fans of other Gundam AU to watch the show, not show. Not because it's bad, but because it cannot live up to being the end all be all of anime that hype it's fans make it out to be. create for it. The same can be said for individual characters, particularly characters such as Char Aznable and Amuro and Char.Ray.

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* {{Wangst}} (Amuro can get pretty whiny at times. He has his reasons, of course, but even so.)

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* {{Wangst}} (Amuro {{Wangst}}: Amuro can get pretty whiny at times. He has his reasons, of course, but even so.)


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* WhatAnIdiot: Hayato deserting when Amuro wasn't executed for deserting. Logic clearly was not involved.
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* AlasPoorVillain: Ramba Ral, Crowley Hamon, and any Zabi who isn't Gihren are liable to provoke this response.

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adding Hype Backlash. Please note—I thoroughly liked this series, but it\'s a fact that, just like the original Star Trek, MSG and UC in general is subject to this.


* AndTheFandomRejoiced: The anime is finally getting a Japanese audio along with the English audio dub.

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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: The anime is finally getting released on DVD with a Japanese audio along with the English audio dub.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Char, full stop (in Japan, he is just as iconic as [[StarWars Darth Vader]] to the Americans). Also Rambal Ral, given the fact that he is portrayed as an AffablyEvil.
** The mobile suit ''[[http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/msgundam/msm-04.htm Acguy]]'' has large number of fans who consider its big head, stumpy limbs and plumpy frame to be UglyCute. Its derivatives, the even more bizarre looking Agg, Juagg, and Agguguy, aren't horribly unpopular themselves considering they were never actually on the show.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Char, full stop (in Japan, he is just as iconic as [[StarWars Darth Vader]] to the Americans). Also Rambal Ral, given the fact that he is portrayed as an AffablyEvil.Ral.
** The mobile suit ''[[http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/msgundam/msm-04.htm Acguy]]'' has large number of fans who consider its big head, stumpy limbs and plumpy plump frame to be UglyCute. Its derivatives, the even more bizarre looking Agg, Juagg, and Agguguy, aren't horribly unpopular themselves considering they were never actually on the show.


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* HypeBacklash: After listening to UC fans bash the other continuities constantly, and brag about the purity and unsurpassable awesomeness of the Universal Century and MSG in particular, it can be somewhat dissapointing to watch the show, not because it's bad, but because it cannot live up to being the end all be all of anime that it's fans make it out to be. The same can be said for individual characters, particularly Amuro and Char.
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* HoYay: Fans get giddy at the [[spoiler: Char and Garma]] subtext, especially during the shower scene and their ''arranged plans''.
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M\'Quve had problems with leaving the men in the mine to die. Not even close to Gihren\'s level of evil.


* CompleteMonster: M'Quve and Gihren.

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* CompleteMonster: M'Quve and Gihren.Gihren Zabi, the Universal Century's very own AdolfHitler--a comparison he accepts with pride.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny
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* MisaimedFandom: Yes, the Federation has corrupt leaders. Yes, Zeon has many good, moral, people who serve it. Yes, the Titans are bad. That being said, it's a little scary how many fans will knee-jerk a SEIG ZEON for a regime that murdered, not millions, but BILLIONS of people and continue to wipe out metropolitan centers every few years... FOR FREEDOM.
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Fridge isn\'t YMMV and belongs on a fridge page


* FridgeHorror: At first glance Lalah's cheerful appearance seems out of place, considering her past is similar to that of [[GundamUnicorn another young lady]]. But then it's revealed that the Flanagan Institute considered her their star student and she was subjected to testing out Newtype weaponry, and later in {{Chars Counterattack}} Char reveals he regrets using Lalah like a machine. Adding this together, it begins to sound ''very'' similar to a certain girl in {{Zeta Gundam}} who was a Newtype guinea pig for weapons and subjected to massive amounts of torture and MindRape, while displaying an identical cheerful disposition that seemed off. [[TheWoobie No wonder Lalah seemed happy after she died.]]
** Let's not forget that, ''before'' being taken in by the Flanagan institute, Char found Lalah in the streets. Who knows what kind of life she left back then.
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Actually, come to think of it, this is more suitable for the Gundam franchise page than just this specific series. Moving again.


* MisaimedFandom: Yes, the Federation has corrupt leaders. Yes, Zeon has many good, moral, people who serve it. Yes, the Titans are bad. That being said, it's a little scary how many fans will knee-jerk a SIEG ZEON for a regime that murdered, not millions, but BILLIONS of people and continued to wipe out metropolitan centers every few years... FOR FREEDOM.
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* MisaimedFandom: Yes, the Federation has corrupt leaders. Yes, Zeon has many good, moral, people who serve it. Yes, the Titans are bad. That being said, it's a little scary how many fans will knee-jerk a SIEG ZEON for a regime that murdered, not millions, but BILLIONS of people and continued to wipe out metropolitan centers every few years... FOR FREEDOM.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: The anime is finally getting a Japanese audio along with the English audio dub.
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** Hayato's as bad, or worse. His entire personality is based around resenting Amuro for being better than he is, and whining like a bitch whenever Bright praises the latter's performance. Perhaps his wangstiest moment comes following the latter's desertion, when he's so mad that Amuro wasn't executed for it, that ''he'' [[InsaneTrollLogic deserts]]. You go kid. That'll show them.

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*** Actually, that tradition ''does'' exist, [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v03/c015/18.html like it's shown in another manga.]] No, whether it's made of [[spoiler: pubic hair]] or not... ''that'' is, well, something else.



* TheWoobie Miharu Ratokie
** Lalah Sune

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* TheWoobie TheWoobie: Miharu Ratokie
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* MagnificentBastard: Char, he has many moments of Magnificent Bastardry throughout the series, but one of his best is when he [[spoiler: leads Garma Zabi into a trap, politely calls him on the phone, explains his motives, tells him goodbye and leaves him to die]]. YMMV on wheather you lose sympathy for Char as some see it as his KickTheDog or MoralEventHorizon moment.



* MagnificentBastard: Char, he has many moments of Magnificent Bastardry throughout the series, but one of his best is when he [[spoiler: leads Garma Zabi into a trap, politely calls him on the phone, explains his motives, tells him goodbye and leaves him to die]]. YMMV on wheather you lose sympathy for Char as some see it as his KickTheDog or MoralEventHorizon moment.

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* MagnificentBastard: Char, he has many moments of Magnificent Bastardry throughout the series, but one of his best is MoralEventHorizon: Many found that Char crossed it when he [[spoiler: leads Garma Zabi into a trap, politely calls him on the phone, explains his motives, tells him goodbye and leaves him to die]]. YMMV on wheather you lose sympathy [[spoiler:arranged Garma's death]]. As for Char as some see it as his KickTheDog or MoralEventHorizon moment.Gihren Zabi, pick something that he does. Anything.
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Gihren\'s a high-functioning Smug Snake, not an MB. Kycillia\'s arguably a better fit than he is. Not saying the Sieg Zeon speech isn\'t awesome, just that one good moment does not a Magnificent Bastard make.


** Despite being a CompleteMonster Gihren Zabi argubaly qualifies for this trope, yes [[InsultBackfire he took a comparsion to Hitler as a compliment]] and later [[spoiler: [[SelfMadeOrphan offed his own father with the Solar Ray]]]] but he's also skileld enough to manage to turn his kid brother's funeral into a chance to restore the failing morale of Zeon with a RousingSpeech. '''SIEG ZEON''', indeed!
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* EvilIsCool: Zeon gets a lot of love from the fanbase. And there is of course, Char Aznable. It would be hard for him to be a bigger dick. It would also be hard for him to be a bigger {{badass}}.
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* LoveToHate: Char is this to the parts of the fanbase who aren't giving him leather pants. Gihren Zabi arguably qualifies as well. There's no doubt he's a total bastard, but he's just so ''good'' at it.
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** "This is no Zaku boy, no Zaku!"

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** Let's not forget that, ''before'' being taken in by the Flanagan institute, Char found Lalah in the streets. Who knows what kind of life she left back then.



** Despite being a CompleteMonster Gihren Zabi argubaly qualifies for this trope, yes [[InsultBackfire he took a comparsion to Hitler as a compliment]] and later [[spoiler: [[SelfMadeOrphan offed his own father with the Solar Ray]]]] but he manages to turn his kid brother's funeral into a chance to restore the failing morale of Zeon with a RousingSpeech. '''SIEG ZEON''', indeed!

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** Despite being a CompleteMonster Gihren Zabi argubaly qualifies for this trope, yes [[InsultBackfire he took a comparsion to Hitler as a compliment]] and later [[spoiler: [[SelfMadeOrphan offed his own father with the Solar Ray]]]] but he manages he's also skileld enough to manage to turn his kid brother's funeral into a chance to restore the failing morale of Zeon with a RousingSpeech. '''SIEG ZEON''', indeed!



** It should be noted that Amuro himself initially thought this was disgusting, but was pressured into it by Kai and Hayato. It's apparently a combat pilot superstition that if a pilot gets into a relationship with a woman he must take an "Amulet" with him on missions or risk bringing misfortune and death on the entire squad. Though there's also the implication that Kai [[JerkAss is just making it up to screw with him]].

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** It should be noted that Amuro himself ''Amuro himself'' initially thought this was disgusting, but was pressured into it by Kai and Hayato. It's apparently a combat pilot superstition that if a pilot gets into a relationship with a woman he must take an "Amulet" with him on missions or risk bringing misfortune and death on the entire squad. Though there's also the implication that Kai [[JerkAss is just making it up to screw with him]].



** And it should be noted that he stops his petulant whining about two-thirds of the way through the series.
** Still, that's two whole thirds of the dang series full of whining.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The legendary "Tomino Memo", published in a 1980 book, details the original 52-episode plan for the series. Hitting the high notes: Kycilia attempts to take over Luna 2, but gets killed as Solomon falls. There are a lot more Newtype pilots who end up getting slaughtered (including one who kills Lalah for "consorting with the enemy"). Bright gets the hots for Degwin's secretary, who turns out to be a spy. Amuro personally guns down Gihren, and Char refuses to leave A Baoa Qu as it self-destructs, apparently dying. There were also a bunch of new mobile suits, most of which were drawn up and became part of the rejected sequel proposal ''MS-X''.

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** And it should be noted that he stops his petulant whining about two-thirds of the way through the series.
** Still, that's two whole thirds of the dang series full of whining.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The legendary "Tomino Memo", published in a 1980 book, details the original 52-episode plan for the series. Hitting the high notes: Kycilia attempts to take over Luna 2, but gets killed as Solomon falls. There are a lot more Newtype pilots who end up getting slaughtered (including one who kills Lalah for "consorting with the enemy"). Bright gets the hots for Degwin's secretary, SexySecretary, who turns out to be a spy.spy and whom he ends up killing. Amuro personally guns down Gihren, and Char refuses to leave A Baoa Qu as it self-destructs, apparently dying. There were also a bunch of new mobile suits, most of which were drawn up and became part of the rejected sequel proposal ''MS-X''.
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* FridgeHorror: At first glance Lalah's cheerful appearance seems out of place, considering her past is similar to that of [[GundamUnicorn another young lady]]. But then it's revealed that the Flanagan Institute considered her their star student and she was subjected to testing out Newtype weaponry, and later in {{Chars Counterattack}} Char reveals he regrets using Lalah like a machine. Adding this together, it begins to sound ''very'' similar to a certain girl in {{Zeta Gundam}} who was a Newtype guinea pig for weapons and subjected to massive amounts of torture and MindRape, while displaying an identical cheerful disposition that seemed off. [[TheWoobie No wonder she seemed happy after she died.]]

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* FridgeHorror: At first glance Lalah's cheerful appearance seems out of place, considering her past is similar to that of [[GundamUnicorn another young lady]]. But then it's revealed that the Flanagan Institute considered her their star student and she was subjected to testing out Newtype weaponry, and later in {{Chars Counterattack}} Char reveals he regrets using Lalah like a machine. Adding this together, it begins to sound ''very'' similar to a certain girl in {{Zeta Gundam}} who was a Newtype guinea pig for weapons and subjected to massive amounts of torture and MindRape, while displaying an identical cheerful disposition that seemed off. [[TheWoobie No wonder she Lalah seemed happy after she died.]]
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* FridgeHorror: At first glance Lalah's cheerful appearance seems out of place, considering her past is similar to that of [[GundamUnicorn another young lady]]. But then it's revealed that the Flanagan Institute considered her their star student and she was subjected to testing out Newtype weaponry, and later in {{Char's Counterattack}} Char reveals he regrets using Lalah like a machine. Adding this together, it begins to sound ''very'' similar to a certain girl in {{Zeta Gundam}} who was a Newtype guinea pig for weapons and subjected to massive amounts of torture and MindRape, while displaying an identical cheerful disposition that seemed off. [[TheWoobie No wonder she seemed happy after she died.]]

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* FridgeHorror: At first glance Lalah's cheerful appearance seems out of place, considering her past is similar to that of [[GundamUnicorn another young lady]]. But then it's revealed that the Flanagan Institute considered her their star student and she was subjected to testing out Newtype weaponry, and later in {{Char's {{Chars Counterattack}} Char reveals he regrets using Lalah like a machine. Adding this together, it begins to sound ''very'' similar to a certain girl in {{Zeta Gundam}} who was a Newtype guinea pig for weapons and subjected to massive amounts of torture and MindRape, while displaying an identical cheerful disposition that seemed off. [[TheWoobie No wonder she seemed happy after she died.]]
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* FridgeHorror: At first glance Lalah's cheerful appearance seems out of place, considering her past is similar to that of [[GundamUnicorn another young lady]]. But then it's revealed that the Flanagan Institute considered her their star student and she was subjected to testing out Newtype weaponry, and later in {{Char's Counterattack}} Char reveals he regrets using Lalah like a machine. Adding this together, it begins to sound ''very'' similar to a certain girl in {{Zeta Gundam}} who was a Newtype guinea pig for weapons and subjected to massive amounts of torture and MindRape, while displaying an identical cheerful disposition that seemed off. [[TheWoobie No wonder she seemed happy after she died.]]


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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The legendary "Tomino Memo", published in a 1980 book, details the original 52-episode plan for the series. Hitting the high notes: Kycilia attempts to take over Luna 2, but gets killed as Solomon falls. There are a lot more Newtype pilots who end up getting slaughtered (including one who kills Lalah for "consorting with the enemy"). Bright gets the hots for Degwin's secretary, who turns out to be a spy. Amuro personally guns down Gihren, and Char refuses to leave A Baoa Qu as it self-destructs, apparently dying. There were also a bunch of new mobile suits, most of which were drawn up and became part of the rejected sequel proposal ''MS-X''.
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**....No mention of the BrightSlap til now? Really?
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Char, full stop. Also Rambal Ral, given the fact that he is portrayed as an AffablyEvil.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Char, full stop.stop (in Japan, he is just as iconic as [[StarWars Darth Vader]] to the Americans). Also Rambal Ral, given the fact that he is portrayed as an AffablyEvil.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Char



* FashionVictimVillain M'quve(Nice, uh, frills...).



* MemeticMutation: Besides the whole [[LawOfChromaticSuperiority red thing]], there's the infamous line ''Once the Big Zam is mass produced''.
** Let's not forget a certain "Jumping onto White Base."
*** AAAAAAH!
* MagnificentBastard: Char, he has many moments of Magnificent Bastardry throughout the series, but one of his best is when he [[spoiler: leads Garma Zabi into a trap, politely calls him on the phone, explains his motives, tells him goodbye and leaves him to die]]. YMMV on wheather you lose sympathy for Char as some see it as his KickTheDog or MoralEventHorizon moment.
** Despite being a CompleteMonster Gihren Zabi argubaly qualifies for this trope, yes [[InsultBackfire he took a comparsion to Hitler as a compliment]] and later [[spoiler: [[SelfMadeOrphan offed his own father with the Solar Ray]]]] but he manages to turn his kid brother's funeral into a chance to restore the failing morale of Zeon with a RousingSpeech. '''SIEG ZEON''', indeed!



* NeverLiveItDown: [[DeadpanSnarker Kai Shiden]] is labeled a DirtyCoward by most of the crew early in the series for his bitter complaints about the situation they're in, despite the fact that he repeatedly undertakes dangerous assignments when necessary.[[hottip:*:And after the war, he's left the danger of a MS cockpit for the safe career of ''war journalist'']] While the other characters eventually realize their mistake, the majority of the ''fandom'' seems to have ignored that and consider him a spineless jerk.
** In other circles however, he's an EnsembleDarkhorse with a level of popularity that surpasses even Char Aznable.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Kai Shiden, He get much better as story progress.



* TooCoolToLive: Ramba Ral



** Still, that's two whole thirds of the dang series full of whining.

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** Still, that's two whole thirds of the dang series full of whining.whining.
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