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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Iron Man spends much of the game being condescending towards the Midnight Suns and treating them like inexperienced children. This is ignoring the fact that A) Blade, like Wolverine, is much OlderThanTheyLook due to slowed aging and does not deserve to be treated that way regardless of Tony's feelings towards the others, and B) the Suns specialize in supernatural threats, making them much more knowledgeable about the nature of Lilith than Tony or most of the other Avengers, who are ''guests'' in the Abbey. Nico is far more outspoken than the others in not liking this and the game treats her and Tony as making equally-valid arguments, but it's hard ''not'' to take her side. And while you do get the opportunity to put Tony in his place, this is polarizing among the heroes.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Iron Man spends much of the game being condescending towards the Midnight Suns and treating them like inexperienced children. This is ignoring the fact that A) Blade, like Wolverine, is much OlderThanTheyLook due to slowed aging and does not deserve to be treated that way regardless of Tony's feelings towards the others, and B) the Suns specialize in supernatural threats, making them much more knowledgeable about the nature of Lilith than Tony or most of the other Avengers, who are ''guests'' in the Abbey. Nico is far more outspoken than the others in not liking this and the game treats her and Tony as making equally-valid arguments, but it's hard ''not'' to take her side. And while you do get the opportunity to put Tony in his place, this is polarizing among the heroes.[[labelnote:*]]It should be noted Hunter's role among the Midnight Suns is both as a leader and a peacekeeper between them and the Avengers, so blatantly taking one side over the other is ''meant'' to be polarizing due to breaching that expected neutrality.[[/labelnote]]
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* KickTheSonOfABitch: Hiram Shaw, a fanatical preacher who led his congregation in the torture and murder of the Salem coven after finding one of the Darkhold's pages indirectly leading to every single event in the game, was entombed alive in a cave behind his church by Lilith using magic from that same page.
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-->'''Tony;''' Out of jail again?! Who made this, [[ComicBook/TheKigpin Wilson Fisk?]]\\

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-->'''Tony;''' Out of jail again?! Who made this, [[ComicBook/TheKigpin [[ComicBook/TheKingpin Wilson Fisk?]]\\
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** Tony and Strange play ''TabletopGame/{{Monopoly}}:

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** Tony and Strange play ''TabletopGame/{{Monopoly}}:''TabletopGame/{{Monopoly}}'':



''Strange:''' Well, if parking is free, clearly no one from Manhattan.

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''Strange:''' '''Strange:''' Well, if parking is free, clearly no one from Manhattan.

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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: After Nico's failed attempt at a birthday party for Magik, Carol [[NotSoAboveItAll wishes she could smash a birthday cake]]. Cap asks why she doesn't do so, she mentions that it's a waste of cake and smashing your own cake just doesn't have the same appeal.

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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: SugarWiki/FunnyMoments:
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After Nico's failed attempt at a birthday party for Magik, Carol [[NotSoAboveItAll wishes she could smash a birthday cake]]. Cap asks why she doesn't do so, she mentions that it's a waste of cake and smashing your own cake just doesn't have the same appeal.appeal.
** Tony and Strange play ''TabletopGame/{{Monopoly}}:
-->'''Tony;''' Out of jail again?! Who made this, [[ComicBook/TheKigpin Wilson Fisk?]]\\
''Strange:''' Well, if parking is free, clearly no one from Manhattan.
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* SpiritualAdaptation: Generally, the game is seen as Marvel's take on VideoGame/FreedomForce.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Iron Man spends much of the game being condescending towards the Midnight Suns and relegating them to the "kids table" due to their age and relative inexperience. This is ignoring the fact that A) Blade, like Wolverine, is much OlderThanTheyLook due to slowed aging and would not deserve to be treated that way regardless of Tony's feelings towards the others, and B) the Suns specialize in supernatural threats, making them much more knowledgeable about the nature of Lilith than Tony or most of the other Avengers, who are ''guests'' in the Abbey. Nico is far more outspoken than the others in not liking this and the game treats her and Tony as making equally-valid arguments, but it's hard ''not'' to take her side. And while you do get the opportunity to put Tony in his place, this is polarizing among the heroes.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Iron Man spends much of the game being condescending towards the Midnight Suns and relegating treating them to the "kids table" due to their age and relative inexperience. like inexperienced children. This is ignoring the fact that A) Blade, like Wolverine, is much OlderThanTheyLook due to slowed aging and would does not deserve to be treated that way regardless of Tony's feelings towards the others, and B) the Suns specialize in supernatural threats, making them much more knowledgeable about the nature of Lilith than Tony or most of the other Avengers, who are ''guests'' in the Abbey. Nico is far more outspoken than the others in not liking this and the game treats her and Tony as making equally-valid arguments, but it's hard ''not'' to take her side. And while you do get the opportunity to put Tony in his place, this is polarizing among the heroes.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Iron Man spends much of the game being condescending towards the Midnight Suns and relegating them to the "kids table" due to their age and relative inexperience. This is ignoring the fact that A) Blade, like Wolverine, is much OlderThanTheyLook due to slowed aging and would not deserve to be treated that way regardless of Tony's feelings towards the others, and B) the Suns specialize in supernatural threats, making them much more knowledgeable about the nature of Lilith than Tony or most of the other Avengers, who are ''guests'' in the Abbey. Nico is far more outspoken than the others in not liking this and the game treats her and Tony as making equally-valid arguments, but it's hard ''not'' to take her side. And while you do get the opportunity to put Tony in his place, this is polarizing among your party.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Iron Man spends much of the game being condescending towards the Midnight Suns and relegating them to the "kids table" due to their age and relative inexperience. This is ignoring the fact that A) Blade, like Wolverine, is much OlderThanTheyLook due to slowed aging and would not deserve to be treated that way regardless of Tony's feelings towards the others, and B) the Suns specialize in supernatural threats, making them much more knowledgeable about the nature of Lilith than Tony or most of the other Avengers, who are ''guests'' in the Abbey. Nico is far more outspoken than the others in not liking this and the game treats her and Tony as making equally-valid arguments, but it's hard ''not'' to take her side. And while you do get the opportunity to put Tony in his place, this is polarizing among your party.the heroes.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Iron Man spends much of the game being condescending towards the Midnight Suns and relegating them to the "kids table" due to their age and relative inexperience. This is ignoring the fact that A) Blade, like Wolverine, is much OlderThanTheyLook due to slowed aging and would not deserve to be treated that way regardless of Tony's feelings towards the others, B) the other Suns are adults in their 20's and are hardly children, and C) they specialize in supernatural threats, making them much more knowledgeable about the nature of Lilith than Tony or most of the other Avengers. Nico is far more outspoken than the others in not liking this and the game treats her and Tony as making equally-valid arguments, but it's hard ''not'' to take her side. And while you do get the opportunity to put Tony in his place, this is polarizing among your party.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Iron Man spends much of the game being condescending towards the Midnight Suns and relegating them to the "kids table" due to their age and relative inexperience. This is ignoring the fact that A) Blade, like Wolverine, is much OlderThanTheyLook due to slowed aging and would not deserve to be treated that way regardless of Tony's feelings towards the others, and B) the other Suns are adults in their 20's and are hardly children, and C) they specialize in supernatural threats, making them much more knowledgeable about the nature of Lilith than Tony or most of the other Avengers.Avengers, who are ''guests'' in the Abbey. Nico is far more outspoken than the others in not liking this and the game treats her and Tony as making equally-valid arguments, but it's hard ''not'' to take her side. And while you do get the opportunity to put Tony in his place, this is polarizing among your party.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Iron Man spends much of the game being condescending towards the Midnight Suns and relegating them to the "kids table" due to their age and relative inexperience. This is ignoring the fact that A) Blade, like Wolverine, is much OlderThanTheyLook due to slowed aging and would not deserve to be treated that way regardless of Tony's feelings towards the others, B) the other Suns are adults in their 20's and are hardly children, and C) they specialize in supernatural threats, making them much more knowledgeable about the nature of Lilith than Tony or most of the other Avengers. Nico is far more outspoken than the others in not liking this and the game treats her and Tony as making equally-valid points, but it's hard ''not'' to take her side. And while you do get the opportunity to put Tony in his place, this is polarizing among your party.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Iron Man spends much of the game being condescending towards the Midnight Suns and relegating them to the "kids table" due to their age and relative inexperience. This is ignoring the fact that A) Blade, like Wolverine, is much OlderThanTheyLook due to slowed aging and would not deserve to be treated that way regardless of Tony's feelings towards the others, B) the other Suns are adults in their 20's and are hardly children, and C) they specialize in supernatural threats, making them much more knowledgeable about the nature of Lilith than Tony or most of the other Avengers. Nico is far more outspoken than the others in not liking this and the game treats her and Tony as making equally-valid points, arguments, but it's hard ''not'' to take her side. And while you do get the opportunity to put Tony in his place, this is polarizing among your party.
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* PortingDisaster: The PC version (or at least the Steam version) appears to suffer from multiple bugs. As of late December 2022, common complaints include stuttering and crashes even on powerful gaming rigs, while some have reported fewer issues even on less gaming-oriented [=PCs=]. Closer investigation showed that these issues were a result of a combination of the game using the Denuvo DRM, as well as forced use of 2k's own launcher, and bypassing the latter using Steam's command features often seemed to cause a noticeable performance increase. In comparison, there haven't been as many complaints concerning the console versions.

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* PortingDisaster: The PC version (or at least the Steam version) appears to suffer from multiple bugs. As of late December 2022, common complaints include stuttering and crashes even on powerful gaming rigs, while some have reported fewer issues even on less gaming-oriented [=PCs=]. Closer investigation showed that these issues were a result of a combination of the game using the Denuvo DRM, as well as forced use of 2k's own launcher, and bypassing the latter using Steam's command features often seemed to cause a noticeable performance increase. In comparison, there haven't been as many complaints concerning the console versions.versions.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Iron Man spends much of the game being condescending towards the Midnight Suns and relegating them to the "kids table" due to their age and relative inexperience. This is ignoring the fact that A) Blade, like Wolverine, is much OlderThanTheyLook due to slowed aging and would not deserve to be treated that way regardless of Tony's feelings towards the others, B) the other Suns are adults in their 20's and are hardly children, and C) they specialize in supernatural threats, making them much more knowledgeable about the nature of Lilith than Tony or most of the other Avengers. Nico is far more outspoken than the others in not liking this and the game treats her and Tony as making equally-valid points, but it's hard ''not'' to take her side. And while you do get the opportunity to put Tony in his place, this is polarizing among your party.

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** Caretaker and Agatha are explicitly romantically involved, with lines and journal entries outright saying it (it's not just romantic pining for Agatha on Caretaker's end either, since Agatha [[spoiler: jokingly asks for a kiss from her when she's bonded to the Abbey and can be seen by everyone).]]



** Many players have taken to referring to Doctor Strange as Doctor Spooky, something Tony often calls Strange ingame.

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** Many players have taken to referring to Doctor Strange as Doctor Spooky, something Tony often calls Strange ingame.in game.
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* KicktheSonofaBitch: Hiram Shaw, a fanatical preacher who led his congregation in the torture and murder of the Salem coven after finding one of the Darkhold's pages indirectly leading to every single event in the game, was entombed alive in a cave behind his church by Lilith using magic from that same page.

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* KicktheSonofaBitch: KickTheSonOfABitch: Hiram Shaw, a fanatical preacher who led his congregation in the torture and murder of the Salem coven after finding one of the Darkhold's pages indirectly leading to every single event in the game, was entombed alive in a cave behind his church by Lilith using magic from that same page.
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* Kick the Son of a Bitch: Hiram Shaw, a fanatical preacher who led his congregation in the torture and murder of the Salem coven after finding one of the Darkhold's pages indirectly leading to every single event in the game, was entombed alive in a cave behind his church by Lilith using magic from that same page.

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* Kick the Son of a Bitch: KicktheSonofaBitch: Hiram Shaw, a fanatical preacher who led his congregation in the torture and murder of the Salem coven after finding one of the Darkhold's pages indirectly leading to every single event in the game, was entombed alive in a cave behind his church by Lilith using magic from that same page.
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* KickTheSonofABitch: Hiram Shaw, a fanatical preacher who led his congregation in the torture and murder of the Salem coven after finding one of the Darkhold's pages indirectly leading to every single event in the game, was entombed alive in a cave behind his church by Lilith using magic from that same page.

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* KickTheSonofABitch: Kick the Son of a Bitch: Hiram Shaw, a fanatical preacher who led his congregation in the torture and murder of the Salem coven after finding one of the Darkhold's pages indirectly leading to every single event in the game, was entombed alive in a cave behind his church by Lilith using magic from that same page.
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* KickTheSonofABitch: Hiram Shaw, a fanatical preacher who led his congregation in the torture and murder of the Salem coven after finding one of the Darkhold's pages indirectly leading to every single event in the game, was entombed alive in a cave behind his church by Lilith using magic from that same page.
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* PortingDisaster: The PC version (or at least Steam version) appears to suffer from multiple bugs. As of late December 2022, common complaints include stuttering and crashes even on powerful gaming rigs, while some have reported fewer issues even on less gaming-oriented [=PCs=]. Closer investigation showed that these issues were a result of a combination of the game using the Denuvo DRM, as well as forced use of 2k's own launcher, and bypassing the latter using Steam's command features often seemed to cause a noticeable performance increase. In comparison, there haven't been as many complaints concerning the console versions.

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* PortingDisaster: The PC version (or at least the Steam version) appears to suffer from multiple bugs. As of late December 2022, common complaints include stuttering and crashes even on powerful gaming rigs, while some have reported fewer issues even on less gaming-oriented [=PCs=]. Closer investigation showed that these issues were a result of a combination of the game using the Denuvo DRM, as well as forced use of 2k's own launcher, and bypassing the latter using Steam's command features often seemed to cause a noticeable performance increase. In comparison, there haven't been as many complaints concerning the console versions.
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* PortingDisaster: The PC version (or at least Steam version) appears to suffer from multiple bugs. As of 22/12/2022, common complaints include stuttering and outright crashes. Some users have reported the issues even on powerful gaming rigs, while others have reported far fewer even on less gaming-oriented PCs. In comparison, there haven't been as many complaints concerning the console versions.

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* PortingDisaster: The PC version (or at least Steam version) appears to suffer from multiple bugs. As of 22/12/2022, late December 2022, common complaints include stuttering and outright crashes. Some users have reported the issues crashes even on powerful gaming rigs, while others some have reported far fewer issues even on less gaming-oriented PCs.[=PCs=]. Closer investigation showed that these issues were a result of a combination of the game using the Denuvo DRM, as well as forced use of 2k's own launcher, and bypassing the latter using Steam's command features often seemed to cause a noticeable performance increase. In comparison, there haven't been as many complaints concerning the console versions.
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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: After Nico's failed attempt at a birthday party for Magik, Carol [[NotSoAboveItAll wishes she could smash a birthday cake]]. Cap asks why she doesn't do so, she mentions that it's a waste of cake and smashing your own cake just doesn't have the same appeal.
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* MemeticMutation:
** Many players have taken to referring to Doctor Strange as Doctor Spooky, something Tony often calls Strange ingame.
** "Who's a good girl? It is my Charlie girl!"[[note]]The phrase the Hunter says most often when petting Charlie. The game prompts you to try and pet her daily for rewards, so players will often end up hearing this voice line a lot.[[/note]]
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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: Although there is some division about details within the mechanics, appearance and how long the game can take to beat if you want OneHundredPercentCompletion, the critic consensus is that this is an interesting ''VideoGame/XCom''-lite that uses the Marvel license to its fullest by giving the players plenty of chances to interact with their favorite heroes.

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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: Although there is some division about details within the mechanics, appearance and how long the game can take to beat if you want OneHundredPercentCompletion, the critic consensus is that this is an interesting ''VideoGame/XCom''-lite that uses the Marvel license to its fullest by giving the players plenty of chances to interact with their favorite heroes.heroes.
* PortingDisaster: The PC version (or at least Steam version) appears to suffer from multiple bugs. As of 22/12/2022, common complaints include stuttering and outright crashes. Some users have reported the issues even on powerful gaming rigs, while others have reported far fewer even on less gaming-oriented PCs. In comparison, there haven't been as many complaints concerning the console versions.
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** Similarly, Wanda is extremely taken with the Hunter, with their relationship essentially coming across as a RescueRomance further enhanced by their parallel histories with Transia, Chthon, and the Abbey.
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** Caretaker and Agatha are explicitly romantically involved, with lines and journal entries outright saying it (it's not just romantic pining for Agatha on Caretaker's end either, since Agatha [[spoiler: jokingly asks for a kiss from her when she's bonded to the Abbey and can now be seen by everyone).]]

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** Caretaker and Agatha are explicitly romantically involved, with lines and journal entries outright saying it (it's not just romantic pining for Agatha on Caretaker's end either, since Agatha [[spoiler: jokingly asks for a kiss from her when she's bonded to the Abbey and can now be seen by everyone).]]
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** Not to say any romantic interest is exclusive to the Hunter. Nico and Illyana are **very** dedicated to rescuing Wanda, the most out of any of the heroes.

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** Not to say any romantic interest is exclusive to the Hunter. Nico and Illyana are **very** very dedicated to rescuing Wanda, the most out of any of the other heroes.
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** Not to say any romantic interest is exclusive to the Hunter. Nico and Illyana are *very* dedicated to rescuing Wanda, the most out of any of the heroes.

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** Not to say any romantic interest is exclusive to the Hunter. Nico and Illyana are *very* **very** dedicated to rescuing Wanda, the most out of any of the heroes.
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** While Magik's dialogue isn't overly flirty, it can still feel like a romance path considering how personal it gets.

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** While Magik's dialogue isn't overly flirty, it can still feel like a romance path at times considering how personal it gets.
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* HoYay: Despite the lack of romance paths in character interactions, fans have read many of them as tinged with subtext.

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* HoYay: Despite the lack of romance paths in character interactions, fans have read many of them as tinged with subtext.subtext, which is present for both male and female Hunters.
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* HoYay: Despite the lack of romance paths in character interactions, fans have read many of them as tinged with subtext.
** People have felt Captain Marvel has very flirtatious dialogue when talking to the Hunter.
** While Magik's dialogue isn't overly flirty, it can still feel like a romance path considering how personal it gets.
** While it's downplayed with Tony considering his personality, it's worth mentioning due to the other options.
** Not to say any romantic interest is exclusive to the Hunter. Nico and Illyana are *very* dedicated to rescuing Wanda, the most out of any of the heroes.
** Caretaker and Agatha are explicitly romantically involved, with lines and journal entries outright saying it (it's not just romantic pining for Agatha on Caretaker's end either, since Agatha [[spoiler: jokingly asks for a kiss from her when she's bonded to the Abbey and can now be seen by everyone).]]
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* NoProblemWithLicensedGames: Although there is some division about details within the mechanics, appearance and how long the game can take to beat if you want OneHundredPercentCompletion, the critic consensus is that this is an interesting ''VideoGame/XCom''-lite that uses the Marvel license to its fullest by giving the players plenty of chances to interact with their favorite heroes.

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* NoProblemWithLicensedGames: SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: Although there is some division about details within the mechanics, appearance and how long the game can take to beat if you want OneHundredPercentCompletion, the critic consensus is that this is an interesting ''VideoGame/XCom''-lite that uses the Marvel license to its fullest by giving the players plenty of chances to interact with their favorite heroes.
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* NoProblemWithLicensedGames: Although there is some division about details within the mechanics, appearance and how long the game can take to beat if you want OneHundredPercentCompletion, the critic consensus is that this is an interesting ''VideoGame/XCom''-lite that uses the Marvel license to its fullest by giving the players plenty of chances to interact with their favorite heroes.

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