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Narm is for specific moments only, "the evil character's design looks non-threatening" is too general.


* {{Narm}}: It's very hard to find the Dark Star X threatening when he's just a floating red ball with spikes, like his normal predecessor was (except purple).

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* DorkAge: 2014 to 2017 (Though some may think 2013 was the start of it) was NOT a good era for [=MM54321=]'s channel. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the [=SMG4=] scenes, and the movie itself being rushed (Admitted by [=MarioMario54321=] himself). The only other story-driven videos released during this period were both parts of the much-better received Dark Moon World, which introduced [[spoiler:Zaether]]. Dark Moon World is also the first installment of the [[spoiler:Zaether]] story arc. However, [[spoiler:Zaether himself]] was absent from the MM videos for 3 years straight after Dark Moon World due to the fact that the videos that premiered after Dark Moon World up to the end of 2017 were videos that were not story-driven tended to have problems such as repetitive jokes. Thankfully, 2018 was where things finally turned around for his channel, with the humor in his videos being less repetitive. And in December of that year, [=MM54321=]'s first story-driven movie since 2015 named "Down To The Core" premiered, and was highly praised. Despite this, [=MM=]'s popularity is still rather below the likes of [=SMG4=].
* FollowTheLeader: Can be attributed to giving rise to the abundance of EvilCounterpart villains in series and many machinimist basing their works on his canon.

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* DorkAge: AudienceAlienatingEra: 2014 to 2017 (Though some may think 2013 was the start of it) was NOT a good era for [=MM54321=]'s channel. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the [=SMG4=] scenes, and the movie itself being rushed (Admitted by [=MarioMario54321=] himself). The only other story-driven videos released during this period were both parts of the much-better received Dark Moon World, which introduced [[spoiler:Zaether]]. Dark Moon World is also the first installment of the [[spoiler:Zaether]] story arc. However, [[spoiler:Zaether himself]] was absent from the MM videos for 3 years straight after Dark Moon World due to the fact that the videos that premiered after Dark Moon World up to the end of 2017 were videos that were not story-driven tended to have problems such as repetitive jokes. Thankfully, 2018 was where things finally turned around for his channel, with the humor in his videos being less repetitive. And in December of that year, [=MM54321=]'s first story-driven movie since 2015 named "Down To The Core" premiered, and was highly praised. Despite this, [=MM=]'s popularity is still rather below the likes of [=SMG4=].
* FollowTheLeader: Can be attributed to giving rise to the abundance of EvilCounterpart villains in series and many machinimist basing their works on his canon.
[=SMG4=].



* NightmareFuel: Novuscurous is by far one of the most unsettling villains in [=MarioMario54321=]'s videos, [[spoiler:he has used all of his so-called allies including the Lanu Spirits, his own creations. Oh, and his suppressed form is his giant floating head with yellow and pupil-less eyes, and his true form reveals he is the Star World Counterpart of ''Dry Bowser''.]]

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Novuscurous is by far one of the most unsettling villains in [=MarioMario54321=]'s videos, [[spoiler:he has used all of his so-called allies including the Lanu Spirits, his own creations. Oh, and his suppressed form is his giant floating head with yellow and pupil-less eyes, and his true form reveals he is the Star World Counterpart of ''Dry Bowser''.]]
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Pretty sure “face-paced” isn’t a thing.


* FandomRivalry: With [[Creator/Supermarioglitchy4 SuperMarioGlitchy4/SMG4]] , ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[{{Dramedy}} increasingly more beloved style]], to the point that some argue that [=SMG4=] has since surpassed [=MM54321=], while others will say that [=SMG4=]'s comedic, energetic, face-paced, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to [=MM54321=]'s straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when [=SMG4=] began crafting story arcs of his own, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which came to be very well-received, which gave way to the even more beloved Anime Arc, which were admittedly fast-paced and yet delivered in solid comedy, drama, and CharacterDevelopment in a quite powerful package, while some have noticed MM's unfortunately rather bland-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue in comparison, which may have caused his popularity to wane, especially come 2017, while [=SMG4's=] has rose and only continues to grow.

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* FandomRivalry: With [[Creator/Supermarioglitchy4 SuperMarioGlitchy4/SMG4]] , ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[{{Dramedy}} increasingly more beloved style]], to the point that some argue that [=SMG4=] has since surpassed [=MM54321=], while others will say that [=SMG4=]'s comedic, energetic, face-paced, fast-paced, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to [=MM54321=]'s straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when [=SMG4=] began crafting story arcs of his own, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which came to be very well-received, which gave way to the even more beloved Anime Arc, which were admittedly fast-paced and yet delivered in solid comedy, drama, and CharacterDevelopment in a quite powerful package, while some have noticed MM's unfortunately rather bland-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue in comparison, which may have caused his popularity to wane, especially come 2017, while [=SMG4's=] has rose and only continues to grow.
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* DorkAge: 2014 to 2017 (Though some may think 2013 was the start of it) was NOT a good era for MM54321's channel. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the [=SMG4=] scenes, and the movie itself being rushed (Admitted by MarioMario54321 himself). The only other story-driven videos released during this period were both parts of the much-better received Dark Moon World, which introduced [[spoiler:Zaether]]. Dark Moon World is also the first installment of the [[spoiler:Zaether]] story arc. However, [[spoiler:Zaether himself]] was absent from the MM videos for 3 years straight after Dark Moon World due to the fact that the videos that premiered after Dark Moon World up to the end of 2017 were videos that were not story-driven tended to have problems such as repetitive jokes. Thankfully, 2018 was where things finally turned around for his channel, with the humor in his videos being less repetitive. And in December of that year, MM54321's first story-driven movie since 2015 named "Down To The Core" premiered, and was highly praised. Despite this, [=MM=]'s popularity is still rather below the likes of [=SMG4=].

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* DorkAge: 2014 to 2017 (Though some may think 2013 was the start of it) was NOT a good era for MM54321's [=MM54321=]'s channel. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the [=SMG4=] scenes, and the movie itself being rushed (Admitted by MarioMario54321 [=MarioMario54321=] himself). The only other story-driven videos released during this period were both parts of the much-better received Dark Moon World, which introduced [[spoiler:Zaether]]. Dark Moon World is also the first installment of the [[spoiler:Zaether]] story arc. However, [[spoiler:Zaether himself]] was absent from the MM videos for 3 years straight after Dark Moon World due to the fact that the videos that premiered after Dark Moon World up to the end of 2017 were videos that were not story-driven tended to have problems such as repetitive jokes. Thankfully, 2018 was where things finally turned around for his channel, with the humor in his videos being less repetitive. And in December of that year, MM54321's [=MM54321=]'s first story-driven movie since 2015 named "Down To The Core" premiered, and was highly praised. Despite this, [=MM=]'s popularity is still rather below the likes of [=SMG4=].



* FandomRivalry: With [[Machinima/Supermarioglitchy4 SuperMarioGlitchy4/SMG4]] , ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[{{Dramedy}} increasingly more beloved style]], to the point that some argue that [=SMG4=] has since surpassed [=MM54321=], while others will say that [=SMG4=]'s comedic, energetic, face-paced, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to [=MM54321=]'s straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when [=SMG4=] began crafting story arcs of his own, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which came to be very well-received, which gave way to the even more beloved Anime Arc, which were admittedly fast-paced and yet delivered in solid comedy, drama, and CharacterDevelopment in a quite powerful package, while some have noticed MM's unfortunately rather bland-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue in comparison, which may have caused his popularity to wane, especially come 2017, while [=SMG4's=] has rose and only continues to grow.

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* FandomRivalry: With [[Machinima/Supermarioglitchy4 [[Creator/Supermarioglitchy4 SuperMarioGlitchy4/SMG4]] , ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[{{Dramedy}} increasingly more beloved style]], to the point that some argue that [=SMG4=] has since surpassed [=MM54321=], while others will say that [=SMG4=]'s comedic, energetic, face-paced, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to [=MM54321=]'s straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when [=SMG4=] began crafting story arcs of his own, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which came to be very well-received, which gave way to the even more beloved Anime Arc, which were admittedly fast-paced and yet delivered in solid comedy, drama, and CharacterDevelopment in a quite powerful package, while some have noticed MM's unfortunately rather bland-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue in comparison, which may have caused his popularity to wane, especially come 2017, while [=SMG4's=] has rose and only continues to grow.
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* NightmareFuel: Novuscurous is by far one of the most unsettling villains in [=MarioMario54321=]'s videos, [[spoiler:he has used [[MagnificentBastard all of his so-called allies including the Lanu Spirits, his own creations]]. Oh, and his suppressed form is his giant floating head with yellow and pupil-less eyes, and his true form reveals he is the Star World Counterpart of ''Dry Bowser''.]]

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* NightmareFuel: Novuscurous is by far one of the most unsettling villains in [=MarioMario54321=]'s videos, [[spoiler:he has used [[MagnificentBastard all of his so-called allies including the Lanu Spirits, his own creations]].creations. Oh, and his suppressed form is his giant floating head with yellow and pupil-less eyes, and his true form reveals he is the Star World Counterpart of ''Dry Bowser''.]]
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* FandomRivalry: With [[Machinima/Supermarioglitchy4 SuperMarioGlitchy4/SMG4]] , ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[{{Dramedy}} increasingly more beloved style]], to the point that some argue that [=SMG4=] has since surpassed [=MM54321=], while others will say that [=SMG4=]'s comedic, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to [=MM54321=]'s straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when [=SMG4=] began crafting story arcs of his own, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which came to be very well-received, which gave way to the even more beloved Anime Arc, which were admittedly fast-paced and yet delivered in solid comedy, drama, and CharacterDevelopment in a quite powerful package, while some have noticed MM's unfortunately rather bland-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue in comparison, which may have caused his popularity to wane, especially come 2017, while [=SMG4's=] has rose and only continues to grow.

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* FandomRivalry: With [[Machinima/Supermarioglitchy4 SuperMarioGlitchy4/SMG4]] , ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[{{Dramedy}} increasingly more beloved style]], to the point that some argue that [=SMG4=] has since surpassed [=MM54321=], while others will say that [=SMG4=]'s comedic, energetic, face-paced, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to [=MM54321=]'s straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when [=SMG4=] began crafting story arcs of his own, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which came to be very well-received, which gave way to the even more beloved Anime Arc, which were admittedly fast-paced and yet delivered in solid comedy, drama, and CharacterDevelopment in a quite powerful package, while some have noticed MM's unfortunately rather bland-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue in comparison, which may have caused his popularity to wane, especially come 2017, while [=SMG4's=] has rose and only continues to grow.
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* FandomRivalry: With Machinima/Supermarioglitchy4, ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[{{Dramedy}} increasingly more beloved style]], to the point that some argue that [=SMG4=] has since surpassed [=MM54321=], while others will say that [=SMG4=]'s comedic, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to [=MM54321=]'s straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when [=SMG4=] began crafting story arcs of his own, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which came to be very well-received, which gave way to the even more beloved Anime Arc, which were admittedly fast-paced and yet delivered in solid comedy, drama, and CharacterDevelopment in a quite powerful package, while some have noticed MM's unfortunately rather bland-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue in comparison, which may have caused his popularity to wane, especially come 2017, while [=SMG4's=] has rose and only continues to grow.

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* FandomRivalry: With Machinima/Supermarioglitchy4, [[Machinima/Supermarioglitchy4 SuperMarioGlitchy4/SMG4]] , ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[{{Dramedy}} increasingly more beloved style]], to the point that some argue that [=SMG4=] has since surpassed [=MM54321=], while others will say that [=SMG4=]'s comedic, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to [=MM54321=]'s straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when [=SMG4=] began crafting story arcs of his own, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which came to be very well-received, which gave way to the even more beloved Anime Arc, which were admittedly fast-paced and yet delivered in solid comedy, drama, and CharacterDevelopment in a quite powerful package, while some have noticed MM's unfortunately rather bland-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue in comparison, which may have caused his popularity to wane, especially come 2017, while [=SMG4's=] has rose and only continues to grow.
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* FandomRivalry: With Machinima/Supermarioglitchy4, ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[{{Dramady}} increasingly more beloved style]], to the point that some argue that [=SMG4=] has since surpassed [=MM54321=], while others will say that [=SMG4=]'s comedic, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to [=MM54321=]'s straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when [=SMG4=] began crafting story arcs of his own, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which came to be very well-received, which gave way to the even more beloved Anime Arc, which were admittedly fast-paced and yet delivered in solid comedy, drama, and CharacterDevelopment in a quite powerful package, while some have noticed MM's unfortunately rather bland-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue in comparison, which may have caused his popularity to wane, especially come 2017, while [=SMG4's=] has rose and only continues to grow.

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* FandomRivalry: With Machinima/Supermarioglitchy4, ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[{{Dramady}} [[{{Dramedy}} increasingly more beloved style]], to the point that some argue that [=SMG4=] has since surpassed [=MM54321=], while others will say that [=SMG4=]'s comedic, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to [=MM54321=]'s straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when [=SMG4=] began crafting story arcs of his own, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which came to be very well-received, which gave way to the even more beloved Anime Arc, which were admittedly fast-paced and yet delivered in solid comedy, drama, and CharacterDevelopment in a quite powerful package, while some have noticed MM's unfortunately rather bland-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue in comparison, which may have caused his popularity to wane, especially come 2017, while [=SMG4's=] has rose and only continues to grow.
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* DorkAge: 2014 to 2017 (Though some may think 2013 was the start of it) was NOT a good era for MM54321's channel. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the [=SMG4=] scenes, and the movie itself being rushed (Admitted by MarioMario54321 himself). The only other story-driven videos released during this period were both parts of the much-better received Dark Moon World, which introduced [[spoiler:Zaether]]. Dark Moon World is also the first installment of the [[spoiler:Zaether]] story arc. However, [[spoiler:Zaether himself]] was absent from the MM videos for 3 years straight after Dark Moon World due to the fact that the videos that premiered after Dark Moon World up to the end of 2017 were videos that were not story-driven tended to have problems such as repetitive jokes. Thankfully, 2018 was where things finally turned around for his channel, with the humor in his videos being less repetitive. And in December of that year, MM54321's first story-driven movie since 2015 named "Down To The Core" premiered, and was highly praised.

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* DorkAge: 2014 to 2017 (Though some may think 2013 was the start of it) was NOT a good era for MM54321's channel. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the [=SMG4=] scenes, and the movie itself being rushed (Admitted by MarioMario54321 himself). The only other story-driven videos released during this period were both parts of the much-better received Dark Moon World, which introduced [[spoiler:Zaether]]. Dark Moon World is also the first installment of the [[spoiler:Zaether]] story arc. However, [[spoiler:Zaether himself]] was absent from the MM videos for 3 years straight after Dark Moon World due to the fact that the videos that premiered after Dark Moon World up to the end of 2017 were videos that were not story-driven tended to have problems such as repetitive jokes. Thankfully, 2018 was where things finally turned around for his channel, with the humor in his videos being less repetitive. And in December of that year, MM54321's first story-driven movie since 2015 named "Down To The Core" premiered, and was highly praised. Despite this, [=MM=]'s popularity is still rather below the likes of [=SMG4=].



* FandomRivalry: With Machinima/SuperMarioGlitchy4, ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[Dramady increasingly more beloved style]], to the point that some argue that SMG4 has since surpassed [=MM54321=], while others will say that [=SMG4=]'s comedic, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to [=MM54321=]'s straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when [=SMG4=] began crafting story arcs of his own, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which came to be very well-received, which gave way to the even more beloved Anime Arc, which were admittedly fast-paced and yet delivered in solid comedy, drama, and CharacterDevelopment in a quite powerful package, while some have noticed MM's unfortunately rather bland-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue in comparison, which may have caused his popularity to wane, especially come 2017, while [=SMG4's=] has rose and only continues to grow.

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* FandomRivalry: With Machinima/SuperMarioGlitchy4, Machinima/Supermarioglitchy4, ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[Dramady [[{{Dramady}} increasingly more beloved style]], to the point that some argue that SMG4 [=SMG4=] has since surpassed [=MM54321=], while others will say that [=SMG4=]'s comedic, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to [=MM54321=]'s straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when [=SMG4=] began crafting story arcs of his own, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which came to be very well-received, which gave way to the even more beloved Anime Arc, which were admittedly fast-paced and yet delivered in solid comedy, drama, and CharacterDevelopment in a quite powerful package, while some have noticed MM's unfortunately rather bland-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue in comparison, which may have caused his popularity to wane, especially come 2017, while [=SMG4's=] has rose and only continues to grow.
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* FandomRivalry: With Machinima/SuperMarioGlitchy4, ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[Dramady increasingly more beloved style]], to the point that some argue that SMG4 has since surpassed [=MM54321=], while others will say that [=SMG4=]'s comedic, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to [=MM54321=]'s straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when SMG4 began making his own arcs, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which came to be very well-received, which gave way to the even more beloved Anime Arc, which were fast-paced and yet delivered in solid comedy, drama, and CharacterDevelopment in a quite powerful package, while some have noticed MM's unfortunately rather bland-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue in comparison, which may have caused his popularity to wane, especially come 2017, while SMG4's has rose and only continues to grow.

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* FandomRivalry: With Machinima/SuperMarioGlitchy4, ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[Dramady increasingly more beloved style]], to the point that some argue that SMG4 has since surpassed [=MM54321=], while others will say that [=SMG4=]'s comedic, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to [=MM54321=]'s straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when SMG4 [=SMG4=] began making crafting story arcs of his own arcs, own, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which came to be very well-received, which gave way to the even more beloved Anime Arc, which were admittedly fast-paced and yet delivered in solid comedy, drama, and CharacterDevelopment in a quite powerful package, while some have noticed MM's unfortunately rather bland-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue in comparison, which may have caused his popularity to wane, especially come 2017, while SMG4's [=SMG4's=] has rose and only continues to grow.
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* FandomRivalry: With Machinima/SuperMarioGlitchy4, ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[Dramady increasingly more favorable style]], to the point that some argue that SMG4 has since surpassed MM54321, while others will say that SMG4's comedic, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to MM54321's straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when SMG4 began making his own arcs, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which gave way to the Anime Arc, which were fast-paced yet powerful in it's own way, not to mention MM's unfortunately generic-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue, may have caused his popularity to wane while SMG4's rose.

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* FandomRivalry: With Machinima/SuperMarioGlitchy4, ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[Dramady increasingly more favorable beloved style]], to the point that some argue that SMG4 has since surpassed MM54321, [=MM54321=], while others will say that SMG4's [=SMG4=]'s comedic, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to MM54321's [=MM54321=]'s straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when SMG4 began making his own arcs, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which came to be very well-received, which gave way to the even more beloved Anime Arc, which were fast-paced and yet delivered in solid comedy, drama, and CharacterDevelopment in a quite powerful in it's own way, not to mention package, while some have noticed MM's unfortunately generic-dialogue rather bland-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue, ArcFatigue in comparison, which may have caused his popularity to wane wane, especially come 2017, while SMG4's rose.has rose and only continues to grow.
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* FandomRivalry: With Machinima/SuperMarioGlitchy4, ever since the latter's surge in popularity and [[Dramady increasingly more favorable style]], to the point that some argue that SMG4 has since surpassed MM54321, while others will say that SMG4's comedic, meme-heavy style doesn't hold a candle to MM54321's straightforward, cinematic, slow-burning, epic storylines. However, when SMG4 began making his own arcs, starting with The Waluigi Arc in 2018, which gave way to the Anime Arc, which were fast-paced yet powerful in it's own way, not to mention MM's unfortunately generic-dialogue and infamous ArcFatigue, may have caused his popularity to wane while SMG4's rose.
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* DorkAge: 2014 to 2017 (Though some may think 2013 was the start of it) was NOT a good era for MM54321's channel. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the [=SMG4=] scenes, and the movie itself being rushed (Admitted by MarioMario54321 himself). The only other story-driven videos released during this period were both parts of the much-better received Dark Moon World, which introduced [[spoiler:Zaether]]. Dark Moon World is also the first installment of the [[spoiler:Zaether]] story arc. However, Zaether himself was absent from the MM videos for 3 years straight after Dark Moon World due to the fact that the videos that premiered after Dark Moon World up to the end of 2017 were videos that were not story-driven tended to have problems such as repetitive jokes. Thankfully, 2018 was where things finally turned around for his channel, with the humor in his videos being less repetitive. And in December of that year, MM54321's first story-driven movie since 2015 named "Down To The Core" premiered, and was highly praised.

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* DorkAge: 2014 to 2017 (Though some may think 2013 was the start of it) was NOT a good era for MM54321's channel. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the [=SMG4=] scenes, and the movie itself being rushed (Admitted by MarioMario54321 himself). The only other story-driven videos released during this period were both parts of the much-better received Dark Moon World, which introduced [[spoiler:Zaether]]. Dark Moon World is also the first installment of the [[spoiler:Zaether]] story arc. However, Zaether himself [[spoiler:Zaether himself]] was absent from the MM videos for 3 years straight after Dark Moon World due to the fact that the videos that premiered after Dark Moon World up to the end of 2017 were videos that were not story-driven tended to have problems such as repetitive jokes. Thankfully, 2018 was where things finally turned around for his channel, with the humor in his videos being less repetitive. And in December of that year, MM54321's first story-driven movie since 2015 named "Down To The Core" premiered, and was highly praised.
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* DorkAge: Some people like to believe it began after [=OiramOiram12345=] and the Dark Star X, or sometimes 2012 or 2013. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the [=SMG4=] scenes, and the movie itself being rushed to the point the creator himself [[LampshadeHanging basically referenced this]]. However, the era's end seemed to be near with the release of the much better-received "The Dark Moon World", which seems to be leading up to [=MarioMario54321=]'s next long-length movie [[spoiler:thanks to Zaether's appearance and eventual return]] But every video so far that was released after Dark Moon World until late 2018 does not contribute to the [[spoiler:Zaether]] Story Arc, and were poorer in quality. This caused the quality of his channel to continue decreasing.

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* DorkAge: Some people like 2014 to believe it began after [=OiramOiram12345=] and 2017 (Though some may think 2013 was the Dark Star X, or sometimes 2012 or 2013.start of it) was NOT a good era for MM54321's channel. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the [=SMG4=] scenes, and the movie itself being rushed to the point the creator himself [[LampshadeHanging basically referenced this]]. However, the era's end seemed to be near with the release (Admitted by MarioMario54321 himself). The only other story-driven videos released during this period were both parts of the much better-received "The much-better received Dark Moon World", World, which seems to be leading up to [=MarioMario54321=]'s next long-length movie [[spoiler:thanks to Zaether's appearance and eventual return]] But every video so far that was released after introduced [[spoiler:Zaether]]. Dark Moon World until late 2018 does not contribute to is also the first installment of the [[spoiler:Zaether]] Story Arc, and story arc. However, Zaether himself was absent from the MM videos for 3 years straight after Dark Moon World due to the fact that the videos that premiered after Dark Moon World up to the end of 2017 were poorer in quality. This caused videos that were not story-driven tended to have problems such as repetitive jokes. Thankfully, 2018 was where things finally turned around for his channel, with the quality of humor in his channel to continue decreasing.videos being less repetitive. And in December of that year, MM54321's first story-driven movie since 2015 named "Down To The Core" premiered, and was highly praised.

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* FollowTheLeader: Can be attributed to giving rise to the abundance of EvilCounterpart villains in series and many machinimist basing their works on his canon.



** "[=OiramOiram12345=] And The Dark Star X", in particular is often considered the best series out of the entire Doppleganger Saga, thanks in large part [[DarkerAndEdgier for it's much more serious tone]] [[CerebusSyndrome compared to previous stories]], [[EvilIsCool the Dopples themselves managing to be both compelling enough to sympathize with yet also despicable enough to wanna see taken down]], [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic the quite often excellent and epic choices in music for it's soundtrack]], [[CharacterDevelopment and for developing several beloved characters]] [[HiddenDepths and giving fresh layers to them that were never seen before.]] There is a reason why it's still fondly remember as his best work.

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** "[=OiramOiram12345=] And The Dark Star X", in particular is often considered the best series out of the entire Doppleganger Saga, thanks in large part [[DarkerAndEdgier for it's much more serious tone]] [[CerebusSyndrome compared to previous stories]], [[EvilIsCool the Dopples themselves managing to be both compelling enough to sympathize with yet also despicable enough to wanna see taken down]], [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic the quite often excellent and epic choices in music for it's soundtrack]], [[CharacterDevelopment and for developing several beloved characters]] characters,]] [[HiddenDepths and as well as giving fresh layers to them that were never seen before.]] There is a reason why it's still fondly remember as his best work.
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* DorkAge: Some people like to believe it began after [=OiramOiram12345=] and the Dark Star X, or sometimes 2012 or 2013. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the [=SMG4=] scenes, and the movie itself being rushed. However, the era's end seemed to be near with the release of the much better-received "The Dark Moon World", which seems to be leading up to [=MarioMario54321=]'s next long-length movie [[spoiler:thanks to Zaether's appearance and eventual return]] But every video so far that was released after Dark Moon World until late 2018 does not contribute to the [[spoiler:Zaether]] Story Arc, and were poorer in quality. This caused the quality of his channel to continue decreasing.

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* DorkAge: Some people like to believe it began after [=OiramOiram12345=] and the Dark Star X, or sometimes 2012 or 2013. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the [=SMG4=] scenes, and the movie itself being rushed.rushed to the point the creator himself [[LampshadeHanging basically referenced this]]. However, the era's end seemed to be near with the release of the much better-received "The Dark Moon World", which seems to be leading up to [=MarioMario54321=]'s next long-length movie [[spoiler:thanks to Zaether's appearance and eventual return]] But every video so far that was released after Dark Moon World until late 2018 does not contribute to the [[spoiler:Zaether]] Story Arc, and were poorer in quality. This caused the quality of his channel to continue decreasing.
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** "[=OiramOiram12345=] And The Dark Star X", in particular is often considered the best series out of the entire Doppleganger Saga, thanks in large part [[DarkerAndEdgier for it's much more serious tone]], [[EvilIsCool the Dopples themselves managing to be both compelling enough to sympathize with yet also despicable enough to wanna see taken down]], [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic the quite often excellent and epic choices in music for it's soundtrack]], [[CharacterDevelopment and for developing several beloved characters]] [[HiddenDepths and giving fresh layers to them that were never seen before.]] There is a reason why it's still fondly remember as his best work.

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** "[=OiramOiram12345=] And The Dark Star X", in particular is often considered the best series out of the entire Doppleganger Saga, thanks in large part [[DarkerAndEdgier for it's much more serious tone]], tone]] [[CerebusSyndrome compared to previous stories]], [[EvilIsCool the Dopples themselves managing to be both compelling enough to sympathize with yet also despicable enough to wanna see taken down]], [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic the quite often excellent and epic choices in music for it's soundtrack]], [[CharacterDevelopment and for developing several beloved characters]] [[HiddenDepths and giving fresh layers to them that were never seen before.]] There is a reason why it's still fondly remember as his best work.



* NightmareFuel: Novuscurous is by far one of the most unsettling villains in [=MarioMario54321=]'s videos, [[spoiler:he has used all of his so-called allies including the Lanu Spirits, his own creations. Oh, and his suppressed form is his giant floating head with yellow and pupil-less eyes, and his true form reveals he is the Star World Counterpart of ''Dry Bowser''.]]
** [[spoiler:Zaether]] from "The Dark Moon World", the sequel to "The Moon World". [[spoiler:His first and currently only appearance has Mario running into him in a dark area of Ztar Castle, with his physical appearance excluding his eyes completely covered by the darkness of the room. When Mario tries to stop him from getting.... whatever that object was, he [[CurbStompBattle easily defeats Mario]] by tormenting him with flashes of light. It was then later revealed that ''no one'' knows who he is, and his sudden appearance causes Cosmitalitaurus to be more concerned about the safety of the Star World. Everything about him, and what he really plans to do with the unseen object will remain unknown until his next appearance.]]

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* NightmareFuel: Novuscurous is by far one of the most unsettling villains in [=MarioMario54321=]'s videos, [[spoiler:he has used [[MagnificentBastard all of his so-called allies including the Lanu Spirits, his own creations.creations]]. Oh, and his suppressed form is his giant floating head with yellow and pupil-less eyes, and his true form reveals he is the Star World Counterpart of ''Dry Bowser''.]]
** [[spoiler:Zaether]] from "The Dark Moon World", the sequel to "The Moon World". [[spoiler:His first and currently only appearance has Mario running into him in a dark area of Ztar Castle, with his physical appearance excluding his eyes completely covered by the darkness of the room. When Mario tries to stop him from getting.... whatever that object was, he [[CurbStompBattle easily defeats Mario]] by tormenting him with flashes of light. It was then later revealed that [[NothingIsScarier ''no one'' knows who he is, is]], and his sudden appearance causes Cosmitalitaurus to be more concerned about the safety of the Star World. Everything about him, and what he really plans to do with the unseen object will remain unknown until his next appearance.]]
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* DorkAge: Some people like to believe it began after [=OiramOiram12345=] and the Dark Star X, or sometimes 2012 or 2013. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the [=SMG4=] scenes, and the movie itself being rushed. However, the era's end seemed to be near with the release of the much better-received "The Dark Moon World", which seems to be leading up to [=MarioMario54321=]'s next long-length movie [[spoiler:thanks to Zaether's appearance and eventual return]] But every video so far that was released after Dark Moon World does not contribute to the [[spoiler:Zaether]] Story Arc, and were poorer in quality. This caused the quality of his channel to continue decreasing.

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* DorkAge: Some people like to believe it began after [=OiramOiram12345=] and the Dark Star X, or sometimes 2012 or 2013. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the [=SMG4=] scenes, and the movie itself being rushed. However, the era's end seemed to be near with the release of the much better-received "The Dark Moon World", which seems to be leading up to [=MarioMario54321=]'s next long-length movie [[spoiler:thanks to Zaether's appearance and eventual return]] But every video so far that was released after Dark Moon World until late 2018 does not contribute to the [[spoiler:Zaether]] Story Arc, and were poorer in quality. This caused the quality of his channel to continue decreasing.

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** "[=OiramOiram12345=] And The Dark Star X", in particular is often considered the best series out of the entire Doppleganger Saga, thanks in large part [[DarkerAndEdgier for it's much more serious tone]], [[EvilIsCool the Dopples themselves managing to be both compelling enough to sympathize with yet also despicable enough to wanna see taken down]], [[AwesomeMusic the quite often excellent and epic choices in music for it's soundtrack]], [[CharacterDevelopment and for developing several beloved characters]] [[HiddenDepths and giving fresh layers to them that were never seen before.]] There is a reason why it's still fondly remember as his best work.

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** "[=OiramOiram12345=] And The Dark Star X", in particular is often considered the best series out of the entire Doppleganger Saga, thanks in large part [[DarkerAndEdgier for it's much more serious tone]], [[EvilIsCool the Dopples themselves managing to be both compelling enough to sympathize with yet also despicable enough to wanna see taken down]], [[AwesomeMusic [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic the quite often excellent and epic choices in music for it's soundtrack]], [[CharacterDevelopment and for developing several beloved characters]] [[HiddenDepths and giving fresh layers to them that were never seen before.]] There is a reason why it's still fondly remember as his best work.



** [[spoiler:Zaether]] from "The Dark Moon World", the sequel to "The Moon World". [[spoiler:His first and currently only appearance has Mario running into him in a dark area of Ztar Castle, with his physical appearance excluding his eyes completely covered by the darkness of the room. When Mario tries to stop him from getting.... whatever that object was, he [[CurbStompBattle easily defeats Mario]] by tormenting him with flashes of light. It was then later revealed that ''no one'' knows who he is, and his sudden appearance causes Cosmitalitaurus to be more concerned about the safety of the Star World. Everything about him, and what he really plans to do with the unseen object will remain unknown until his next appearance.]]

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** [[spoiler:Zaether]] from "The Dark Moon World", the sequel to "The Moon World". [[spoiler:His first and currently only appearance has Mario running into him in a dark area of Ztar Castle, with his physical appearance excluding his eyes completely covered by the darkness of the room. When Mario tries to stop him from getting.... whatever that object was, he [[CurbStompBattle easily defeats Mario]] by tormenting him with flashes of light. It was then later revealed that ''no one'' knows who he is, and his sudden appearance causes Cosmitalitaurus to be more concerned about the safety of the Star World. Everything about him, and what he really plans to do with the unseen object will remain unknown until his next appearance.]]]]
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* ArcFatigue: During "OiramOiram12345 And The Dark Star X", a miniseries called "Ztarragus' Island X" ran from during Part 16 until the beginning of Part 21. The titular villains of the movie and the dopples had [[DemotedToExtra their roles severely reduced during the entire arc]], the arc in general contributed very little to the main storyline, and it has gotten to the point where even the ''characters'' were getting tired of it.
* DorkAge: Some people like to believe it began after OO12345 and the Dark Star X, or sometimes 2012 or 2013. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the SMG4 scenes, and the movie itself being rushed. However, the era's end seemed to be near with the release of the much better-recieved "The Dark Moon World", which seems to be leading up to MM54321's next long-length movie [[spoiler:thanks to Zaether's appearance and eventual return]] But every video so far that was released after Dark Moon World does not contribute to the [[spoiler:Zaether]] Story Arc, and were poorer in quality. This caused the quality of his channel to continue decreasing.
* GrowingTheBeard: During his prime, MarioMario54321 was already a fairly beloved machinima channel due to his vast imagination and his (mostly) consistent uploading schedule. However, ask any fan what skyrocketed his channel, and they'll often say it's his more story-driven series such as the much beloved Doppleganger Saga or the Cosmic Crystal series, which revealed MM54321's knack for excellent story telling and his ability to tell grand epics. Some even go so far as to say he was a GenreTurningPoint for Mario 64 machinimas.
** "OiramOiram12345 And The Dark Star X", in particular is often considered the best series out of the entire Doppleganger Saga, thanks in large part [[DarkerAndEdgier for it's much more serious tone]], [[EvilIsCool the Dopples themselves managing to be both compelling enough to sympathize with yet also despicable enough to wanna see taken down]], [[AwesomeMusic the quite often excellent and epic choices in music for it's soundtrack]], [[CharacterDevelopment and for developing several beloved characters]] [[HiddenDepths and giving fresh layers to them that were never seen before.]] There is a reason why it's still fondly remember as his best work.
* Narm: It's very hard to find the Dark Star X threatening when he's just a floating red ball with spikes, like his normal predecessor was (except purple).
* NightmareFuel: Novuscurous is by far one of the most unsettling villains in MM54321's videos, [[spoiler:he has used all of his so-called allies including the Lanu Spirits, his own creations. Oh, and his suppressed form is his giant floating head with yellow and pupil-less eyes, and his true form reveals he is the Star World Counterpart of ''Dry Bowser''.]]

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* ArcFatigue: During "OiramOiram12345 "[=OiramOiram12345=] And The Dark Star X", a miniseries called "Ztarragus' Island X" ran from during Part 16 until the beginning of Part 21. The titular villains of the movie and the dopples had [[DemotedToExtra their roles severely reduced during the entire arc]], the arc in general contributed very little to the main storyline, and it has gotten to the point where even the ''characters'' were getting tired of it.
* DorkAge: Some people like to believe it began after OO12345 [=OiramOiram12345=] and the Dark Star X, or sometimes 2012 or 2013. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the SMG4 [=SMG4=] scenes, and the movie itself being rushed. However, the era's end seemed to be near with the release of the much better-recieved better-received "The Dark Moon World", which seems to be leading up to MM54321's [=MarioMario54321=]'s next long-length movie [[spoiler:thanks to Zaether's appearance and eventual return]] But every video so far that was released after Dark Moon World does not contribute to the [[spoiler:Zaether]] Story Arc, and were poorer in quality. This caused the quality of his channel to continue decreasing.
* GrowingTheBeard: During his prime, MarioMario54321 [=MarioMario54321=] was already a fairly beloved machinima channel due to his vast imagination and his (mostly) consistent uploading schedule. However, ask any fan what skyrocketed his channel, and they'll often say it's his more story-driven series such as the much beloved Doppleganger Saga or the Cosmic Crystal series, which revealed MM54321's [=MarioMario54321=]'s knack for excellent story telling and his ability to tell grand epics. Some even go so far as to say he was a GenreTurningPoint for Mario 64 machinimas.
** "OiramOiram12345 "[=OiramOiram12345=] And The Dark Star X", in particular is often considered the best series out of the entire Doppleganger Saga, thanks in large part [[DarkerAndEdgier for it's much more serious tone]], [[EvilIsCool the Dopples themselves managing to be both compelling enough to sympathize with yet also despicable enough to wanna see taken down]], [[AwesomeMusic the quite often excellent and epic choices in music for it's soundtrack]], [[CharacterDevelopment and for developing several beloved characters]] [[HiddenDepths and giving fresh layers to them that were never seen before.]] There is a reason why it's still fondly remember as his best work.
* Narm: {{Narm}}: It's very hard to find the Dark Star X threatening when he's just a floating red ball with spikes, like his normal predecessor was (except purple).
* NightmareFuel: Novuscurous is by far one of the most unsettling villains in MM54321's [=MarioMario54321=]'s videos, [[spoiler:he has used all of his so-called allies including the Lanu Spirits, his own creations. Oh, and his suppressed form is his giant floating head with yellow and pupil-less eyes, and his true form reveals he is the Star World Counterpart of ''Dry Bowser''.]]
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* Narm: It's very hard to find the Dark Star X threatening when he's just a floating red ball with spikes, like his normal predecessor was (except purple).

to:

*GrowingTheBeard: During his prime, MarioMario54321 was already a fairly beloved machinima channel due to his vast imagination and his (mostly) consistent uploading schedule. However, ask any fan what skyrocketed his channel, and they'll often say it's his more story-driven series such as the much beloved Doppleganger Saga or the Cosmic Crystal series, which revealed MM54321's knack for excellent story telling and his ability to tell grand epics. Some even go so far as to say he was a GenreTurningPoint for Mario 64 machinimas.
** "OiramOiram12345 And The Dark Star X", in particular is often considered the best series out of the entire Doppleganger Saga, thanks in large part [[DarkerAndEdgier for it's much more serious tone]], [[EvilIsCool the Dopples themselves managing to be both compelling enough to sympathize with yet also despicable enough to wanna see taken down]], [[AwesomeMusic the quite often excellent and epic choices in music for it's soundtrack]], [[CharacterDevelopment and for developing several beloved characters]] [[HiddenDepths and giving fresh layers to them that were never seen before.]] There is a reason why it's still fondly remember as his best work.
* Narm: It's very hard to find the Dark Star X threatening when he's just a floating red ball with spikes, like his normal predecessor was (except purple).
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* DorkAge: Some people like to believe it began after OO12345 and the Dark Star X, or sometimes 2012 or 2013. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the SMG4 scenes, and the movie itself being rushed. However, the era's end seems to be near with the release of the much better-recieved "The Dark Moon World", which seems to be leading up to MM54321's next long-length movie [[spoiler:thanks to Zaether's appearance and eventual return]].

to:

* DorkAge: Some people like to believe it began after OO12345 and the Dark Star X, or sometimes 2012 or 2013. During this era, one of his most criticized movies yet , "Back to The Fourth Dimension", was released. Common problems with the movie were the SMG4 scenes, and the movie itself being rushed. However, the era's end seems seemed to be near with the release of the much better-recieved "The Dark Moon World", which seems to be leading up to MM54321's next long-length movie [[spoiler:thanks to Zaether's appearance and eventual return]].return]] But every video so far that was released after Dark Moon World does not contribute to the [[spoiler:Zaether]] Story Arc, and were poorer in quality. This caused the quality of his channel to continue decreasing.
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* Narm: It's very hard to find the Dark Star X threatening when he's just a floating red ball with spikes, like his normal predecessor was (except purple).
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* ArcFatigue: During "OiramOiram12345 And The Dark Star X", a miniseries called "Ztarragus' Island X" ran from during Part 16 until the beginning of Part 21. The titular villains of the movie and the dopples had [[DemotedToExtra their roles severely reduced during the entire arc]], the arc in general contributed very little to the main storyline, and it has gotten to the point where even the ''characters'' were getting tired of it.
* NightmareFuel: Novuscurous is by far one of the most unsettling villains in MM54321's videos, [[spoiler:he has used all of his so-called allies including the Lanu Spirits, his own creations. Oh, and his suppressed form is his giant floating head with yellow and pupil-less eyes, and his true form reveals he is the Star World Counterpart of ''Dry Bowser''.]]
** [[spoiler:Zaether]] from "The Dark Moon World", the sequel to "The Moon World". [[spoiler:His first and currently only appearance has Mario running into him in a dark area of Ztar Castle, with his physical appearance excluding his eyes completely covered by the darkness of the room. When Mario tries to stop him from getting.... whatever that object was, he [[CurbStompBattle easily defeats Mario]] by tormenting him with flashes of light. It was then later revealed that ''no one'' knows who he is, and his sudden appearance causes Cosmitalitaurus to be more concerned about the safety of the Star World. Everything about him, and what he really plans to do with the unseen object will remain unknown until his next appearance.]]

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