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--->'''Nurse:''' Are you all immediate family?
--->[[spoiler:Cassie:]] Yes. They're all mine.

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** "He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died." [[labelnote:Explanation]]This awkward run-on sentence used by Webb to describe Ezekiel in the teaser spread like wildfire, much akin to "To bats, it's lethal. To humans, it's deadly" from ''Film/{{Morbius|2022}}''. [[MissingTrailerScene The line isn't present in the movie itself, however.]] It got to the point where John Mulaney even mocked it at the 2024 Academy Awards.[[/labelnote]]

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** "He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died." [[labelnote:Explanation]]This awkward run-on sentence used by Webb to describe Ezekiel in the teaser spread like wildfire, much akin to "To bats, it's lethal. To humans, it's deadly" from ''Film/{{Morbius|2022}}''. [[MissingTrailerScene The line isn't present in the movie itself, however.]] It got to the point where John Mulaney Creator/JohnMulaney even mocked it at the 2024 Academy Awards.MediaNotes/{{Academy Award}}s.[[/labelnote]]



** "So, while my character in the movie may be able to see the future, I also can and I know what the future brings. I know that when you see ''Madame Web'' you're going to love it. In fact, I think you're going to see it twice." [[labelnote:Explanation]]From a [[https://twitter.com/OneTakeNews/status/1745560088310399323 promo video]] that went memetic due to Creator/DakotaJohnson's incredibly sensuous delivery, with some joking that Sony was attempting to tap into the "[[IllBeInMyBunk coomer demographic]]."[[/labelnote]]
** The entire movie is just a Pepsi commercial. [[labelnote:Explanation]]There's a lot of Pepsi and Pepsi related ProductPlacement throughout the entire movie, and the [[spoiler:main villain even meets his demise by being crushed by the falling "P" from a Pepsi-Cola sign]]. This has caused at least a few viewers to call this movie Madame ''Websi''.[[/labelnote]]
** "I remember all my encounters with you Madame Web, and I want nothing to do with you." [[labelnote:Explanation]]A moment from ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'' where Madame Web returns to take Spider-Man for his final mission, even though he doesn't want to. The wording made it perfect for people who have no desire to watch the film or to revisit it. [[/labelnote]]

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** "So, while my character in the movie may be able to see the future, I also can and I know what the future brings. I know that when you see ''Madame Web'' Web'', you're going to love it. In fact, I think you're going to see it twice." [[labelnote:Explanation]]From a [[https://twitter.com/OneTakeNews/status/1745560088310399323 promo video]] that went memetic due to Creator/DakotaJohnson's incredibly sensuous delivery, with some joking that Sony was attempting to tap into the "[[IllBeInMyBunk coomer demographic]]."[[/labelnote]]
demographic]]".[[/labelnote]]
** The entire movie is just a Pepsi commercial. [[labelnote:Explanation]]There's a lot of Pepsi and Pepsi related Pepsi-related ProductPlacement throughout the entire movie, and the [[spoiler:main villain even meets his demise by being crushed by the falling "P" from a Pepsi-Cola sign]]. This has caused at least a few viewers to call this movie Madame ''Websi''.''Madame Websi''.[[/labelnote]]
** "I remember all my encounters with you you, Madame Web, and I want nothing to do with you." [[labelnote:Explanation]]A moment from ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'' where Madame Web returns to take Spider-Man for his final mission, even though he doesn't want to. The wording made it perfect for people who have no desire to watch the film or to revisit it. [[/labelnote]]



* SoBadItsGood: The film is agreed upon to be worse than ''Film/{{Morbius}}'', but most people agree that whereas that movie was simply just ''boring'' bad, ''Madame Web'' is on the other hand so utterly incompetent in just about every aspect that it makes the movie more enjoyable. The sheer amount of bonkers stuff already mentioned in the spoilers, plus the fact that the actors, writers and producers clearly didn't care make for one very entertaining watch.

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* SoBadItsGood: The film is agreed upon to be worse than ''Film/{{Morbius}}'', but most people agree that whereas that movie was simply just ''boring'' bad, ''Madame Web'' is on the other hand so utterly incompetent in just about every aspect that it makes the movie more enjoyable. The sheer amount of bonkers stuff already mentioned in the spoilers, plus the fact that the actors, writers and producers clearly didn't care care, make for one very entertaining watch.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Ezekiel Sims crosses it at the beginning of the movie by betraying Constance and leaving her to die. What's worse was that Constance was pregnant with Cassie, and had the village chief and his people not save her, both Constance and Cassie would've died.
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* BileFascination: Very similar to the preceding movie of Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse, ''Film/Morbius2022'', this movie got a lot of attention right from when the first trailer dropped, even though it's gotten a terrible reception from critics and audiences alike, simply due to the curiosity of it being an increasingly desperate attempt by Sony to cobble together a cinematic universe about Franchise/SpiderMan side characters without Spider-Man and seeing how badly they've dropped the ball (outside the ''Film/{{Venom|2018}}'' [[Film/VenomLetItBeCarnage films]] which, while also starting with some mockery of their own, have performed much better both critically and financially in comparison).

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* BileFascination: Very similar to the preceding movie of Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse, ''Film/Morbius2022'', this movie got a lot of attention right from when the first trailer dropped, even though it's gotten a terrible reception from critics and audiences alike, simply due to the curiosity of it being an increasingly desperate attempt by Sony to cobble together a cinematic universe about Franchise/SpiderMan side characters without Spider-Man and seeing how badly they've dropped the ball (outside the ''Film/{{Venom|2018}}'' [[Film/VenomLetItBeCarnage [[Film/VenomLetThereBeCarnage films]] which, while also starting with some mockery of their own, have performed much better both critically and financially in comparison).
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* BileFascination: Very similar to the preceding movie of Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse, ''Film/Morbius2022'', this movie got a lot of attention right from when the first trailer dropped, even though it's gotten a terrible reception from critics and audiences alike, simply due to the curiosity of it being an increasingly desperate attempt by Sony to cobble together a cinematic universe about Franchise/SpiderMan side characters without Spider-Man and seeing how badly they've dropped the ball (outside the ''Venom'' films which, while also starting with some BileFascination of their own, have performed much better both critically and financially in comparison).

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* BileFascination: Very similar to the preceding movie of Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse, ''Film/Morbius2022'', this movie got a lot of attention right from when the first trailer dropped, even though it's gotten a terrible reception from critics and audiences alike, simply due to the curiosity of it being an increasingly desperate attempt by Sony to cobble together a cinematic universe about Franchise/SpiderMan side characters without Spider-Man and seeing how badly they've dropped the ball (outside the ''Venom'' films ''Film/{{Venom|2018}}'' [[Film/VenomLetItBeCarnage films]] which, while also starting with some BileFascination mockery of their own, have performed much better both critically and financially in comparison).
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* TearJerker: Mattie, Julia and Anya all experience ParentalAbandonment. Julia mentions that her mother is in a psych ward, which led her to live with her dad and stepmother and she outright says she thinks they don't want her there. Mattie's wealthy parents aren't around much and she is on her own. Anya's dad was deported and her mother died when she was 5, leading Anya to also live on her own and not wanting to risk either getting deported or going into the foster care system.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Soundtrack version. Fans were quick to find out that the main them of the movie is strangely similar to the main theme of [[VideoGame/SpiderManPS4 Insomniac's Spider-Man video game]]. Whether this was intentional or just temporary music that they forgot to replace is up to the listener.

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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Soundtrack version. Fans were quick to find out that the main them theme of the movie is strangely similar to the main theme of [[VideoGame/SpiderManPS4 Insomniac's Spider-Man video game]]. Whether this was intentional or just temporary music that they forgot to replace is up to the listener.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A major criticism about the movie is that, despite being the first live-action appearance of any Spider-Woman, never mind ''four'' of them, [[spoiler:only Cassandra has any powers and none them get their costumes in the story, nor is there any indication how this ever happens, nor do the other three end up fighting the BigBad. Instead there's only a few clairvoyant visions promising the characters becoming costumed crime-fighters with powers [[SequelHook in the distant future]], for a hypothetical followup very few people believe will ever happen.]] This is made extremely baffling given much of the movie's marketing focused on [[spoiler:the characters in their costumes]], which raises the question: if the producers knew the audience ''wanted'' to see [[spoiler:the characters in costumes with powers]] and used misleading advertisements promising so, why not actually do so in the movie?

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A major criticism about the movie is that, despite being the first live-action appearance of any Spider-Woman, never mind ''four'' of them, [[spoiler:only Cassandra has any powers and none them get their costumes in the story, nor is there any indication how this ever happens, nor do the other three end up fighting the BigBad. Instead there's only a few clairvoyant visions promising the characters becoming costumed crime-fighters with powers [[SequelHook in the distant future]], for a hypothetical followup very few people believe will ever happen.]] This is made extremely baffling given much of the movie's marketing focused on [[spoiler:the characters in their costumes]], which raises the question: if the producers knew the audience ''wanted'' to see [[spoiler:the characters in costumes with powers]] and used misleading advertisements promising so, why not actually do so in the movie?movie?
** As several reviewers pointed out the idea of a Marvel thriller movie featuring an "evil Spider-Man", which Ezekiel Sims is (right down to the costume), could have actually been amazing and quite scary in ''Series/TheBoys'' or ''Film/{{Brightburn}}'' fashion. Spider-Man's powers means he can come at you from any direction and on any surface, an antagonist with such powers is utterly ''terrifying''. However in the film Ezekiel, along with nonsensical motivations, is repeatedly defeated and ultimately fails do much more than kill Cassandra's mother in the past, resulting in his role being more NightmareRetardant, despite the great potential to show what Peter Parker would be like as a villain.
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** "He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died." [[labelnote:Explanation]]This awkward run-on sentence used by Webb to describe Ezekiel in the teaser spread like wildfire, much akin to "To bats, it's lethal. To humans, it's deadly" from ''Film/{{Morbius|2022}}''. [[MissingTrailerScene The line isn't present in the movie itself, however.]][[/labelnote]]

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** "He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died." [[labelnote:Explanation]]This awkward run-on sentence used by Webb to describe Ezekiel in the teaser spread like wildfire, much akin to "To bats, it's lethal. To humans, it's deadly" from ''Film/{{Morbius|2022}}''. [[MissingTrailerScene The line isn't present in the movie itself, however.]][[/labelnote]]]] It got to the point where John Mulaney even mocked it at the 2024 Academy Awards.[[/labelnote]]
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* SoBadItsGood: The film is agreed upon to be worse than ''Film/{{Morbius}}'', but most people agree that whereas that movie was simply just ''boring'' bad, ''Madame Web'' is on the other hand so utterly incompetent in just about every aspect that it makes the movie more enjoyable. The sheer amount of bonkers stuff already mentioned in the spoilers, plus the fact that the actors, writers and producers clearly didn't care make for one very entertaining watch.
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** "So, while my character in the movie may be able to see the future, I also can and I know what the future brings. I know that when you see ''Madame Web'' you're going to love it. In fact, I think you’re going to see it twice." [[labelnote:Explanation]]From a [[https://twitter.com/OneTakeNews/status/1745560088310399323 promo video]] that went memetic due to Creator/DakotaJohnson’s incredibly sensuous delivery, with some joking that Sony was attempting to tap into the "[[IllBeInMyBunk gooner demographic]]."[[/labelnote]]

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** "So, while my character in the movie may be able to see the future, I also can and I know what the future brings. I know that when you see ''Madame Web'' you're going to love it. In fact, I think you’re going to see it twice." [[labelnote:Explanation]]From a [[https://twitter.com/OneTakeNews/status/1745560088310399323 promo video]] that went memetic due to Creator/DakotaJohnson’s incredibly sensuous delivery, with some joking that Sony was attempting to tap into the "[[IllBeInMyBunk gooner coomer demographic]]."[[/labelnote]]
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** "I remember all my encounters with you Madame Web, and I want nothing to do with you." [[labelnote:Explanation]]A moment from the 90s Spider-Man cartoon where Madame Web returns to take Spider-Man for his final mission, even though he doesn't want to. The wording made it perfect for people who have no desire to watch the film or to revisit it. [[/labelnote]]

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** "I remember all my encounters with you Madame Web, and I want nothing to do with you." [[labelnote:Explanation]]A moment from the 90s Spider-Man cartoon ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'' where Madame Web returns to take Spider-Man for his final mission, even though he doesn't want to. The wording made it perfect for people who have no desire to watch the film or to revisit it. [[/labelnote]]
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* FandomRivalry: After ''Madame Web'''s [[BoxOfficeBomb disastrous opening]], fans of ''Film/TheMarvels2023'' - which got all sorts of heat from the Internet for being a rare Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse bomb - were quick to say that the latter's box office doesn't look so bad in comparison. This ties into the rivalry between the MCU and Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse or SSU which ''Madame Web'' is part of.
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** Cassie slowly becomes a ParentalSubstitute for the teenage girls she's protecting, who all suffer from having very broken families. [[spoiler: It culminates with all three visiting her on the hospital after the battle with Ezekiel and hugging her in her bed.]]

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** Cassie slowly becomes a ParentalSubstitute for the teenage girls she's protecting, who all suffer from having very broken families. [[spoiler: It culminates with all three visiting her on in the hospital after the battle with Ezekiel and hugging her in her bed.]]
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* CriticalBacklash: A positive example. After receiving a thrashing from critics, some people started to argue that while still bad, it didn't deserve the massive amounts of hate it was getting and was more SoBadItsGood.

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* CriticalBacklash: A positive example. After receiving a thrashing from critics, some people started to argue that while still bad, it didn't deserve the massive amounts of hate it was getting and was more SoBadItsGood.
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** For what intent purpose—or rather what extent—besides making apparently very good investments does Ezekiel use his visions for? While he's clearly profited a lot on his own, has he spread the wealth with those who also started in a less than fortunate place or has [[{{Hypocrite}} he unapologetically kept it all for himself and simply bevome one of the people he claimed thrived in the world while others like him struggled]]? The latter would be strongly suggested by both the lengths that he went to to get the spider to begin with—in which he killed a pregnant woman while thinking her baby would die too—and the lengths in which he refuses to let a vision about his death come true—trying to murder the three teen girls before they are even a threat to him.

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** For what intent purpose—or rather what extent—besides making apparently very good investments does Ezekiel use his visions for? While he's clearly profited a lot on his own, has he spread the wealth with those who also started in a less than fortunate place or has [[{{Hypocrite}} he unapologetically kept it all for himself and simply bevome become one of the people he claimed thrived in the world while others like him struggled]]? The latter would be strongly suggested by both the lengths that he went to to get the spider to begin with—in which he killed a pregnant woman while thinking her baby would die too—and the lengths in which he refuses to let a vision about his death come true—trying to murder the three teen girls before they are even a threat to him.
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** For what intent purpose—or rather what extent—besides making apparently very good investments does Ezekiel use his visions for? While he's clearly profited a lot on his own, has he spread the wealth with those who also started in a less than fortunate place or has [[{{Hypocrite}} he unapologetically kept it all for himself and simply bevome one of the people he claimed thrived in the world while others like him struggled]]? The latter would be strongly suggested by both the lengths that he went to to get the spider to begin with—in which he killed a pregnant woman while thinking her baby would die too—and the lengths in which he refuses to let a vision about his death come true—trying to murder the three teen girls before they are even a threat to him.
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There have always been positive examples of this trope in history, the situation is not unusual.


* CriticalBacklash: A rare positive example. After receiving a thrashing from critics, some people started to argue that while still bad, it didn't deserve the massive amounts of hate it was getting and was more SoBadItsGood.

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* CriticalBacklash: A rare positive example. After receiving a thrashing from critics, some people started to argue that while still bad, it didn't deserve the massive amounts of hate it was getting and was more SoBadItsGood.
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It's not a YMMV trope.


* StockFootage: The first shot, the very first shot that is shown in the end when [[spoiler:Webb has visions of the three Spider-Women all suited up & fighting crime]] is actually a reused shot from Sam Raimi's ''Film/SpiderMan2'', specifically the scene of Spider-Man suiting up & swing off after attending a party. Now, Sony does have a stock footage database containing shots of countless buildings, but the fact that the movie specifically reuses a shot from an iconic scene from an incredibly well-known movie that plenty of people will instantly recognize raises some questions.
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* BileFascination: Very similar to the preceding movie of Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse, ''Film/Morbius2022'', this movie got a lot of attention right from when the first trailer dropped, even though it's gotten a terrible reception from critics and audiences alike, simply due to the curiosity of it being an increasingly desperate attempt by Sony to cobble together a cinematic universe about Franchise/SpiderMan side characters without Spider-Man and seeing how badly they've dropped the ball (outside the ''Venom'' films, which while also starting with some BileFascination of their own, performed much better comparatively both critically and financially).

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* BileFascination: Very similar to the preceding movie of Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse, ''Film/Morbius2022'', this movie got a lot of attention right from when the first trailer dropped, even though it's gotten a terrible reception from critics and audiences alike, simply due to the curiosity of it being an increasingly desperate attempt by Sony to cobble together a cinematic universe about Franchise/SpiderMan side characters without Spider-Man and seeing how badly they've dropped the ball (outside the ''Venom'' films, which films which, while also starting with some BileFascination of their own, have performed much better comparatively both critically and financially).financially in comparison).
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* StockFootage: The first shot, the very first shot that is shown in the end when [[spoiler:Webb has visions of the three Spider-Women all suited up & fighting crime]] is actually a reused shot from [[Film/SpiderMan2 Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 2 Movie]], specifically the scene of Spider-Man suiting up & swing off after attending a party. Now, Sony does have a stock footage database containing shots of countless buildings, but the fact that the movie specifically reuses a shot from an iconic scene from an incredibly well-known movie that plenty of people will instantly recognize raises some questions.

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* StockFootage: The first shot, the very first shot that is shown in the end when [[spoiler:Webb has visions of the three Spider-Women all suited up & fighting crime]] is actually a reused shot from [[Film/SpiderMan2 Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 2 Movie]], ''Film/SpiderMan2'', specifically the scene of Spider-Man suiting up & swing off after attending a party. Now, Sony does have a stock footage database containing shots of countless buildings, but the fact that the movie specifically reuses a shot from an iconic scene from an incredibly well-known movie that plenty of people will instantly recognize raises some questions.
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* BileFascination: Very similar to the preceding movie of Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse, ''Film/Morbius2022'', this movie got a lot of attention right from when the first trailer dropped, even though it's gotten a terrible reception from critics and audiences alike, simply due to the curiosity of it being an increasingly desperate attempt by Sony to cobble together a cinematic universe about Franchise/SpiderMan side characters without Spider-Man and seeing how badly they've dropped the ball (outside the ''Venom'' films, which while also starting with some BileFascination of their own, comparatively performed much better both critically and financially).

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* BileFascination: Very similar to the preceding movie of Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse, ''Film/Morbius2022'', this movie got a lot of attention right from when the first trailer dropped, even though it's gotten a terrible reception from critics and audiences alike, simply due to the curiosity of it being an increasingly desperate attempt by Sony to cobble together a cinematic universe about Franchise/SpiderMan side characters without Spider-Man and seeing how badly they've dropped the ball (outside the ''Venom'' films, which while also starting with some BileFascination of their own, comparatively performed much better comparatively both critically and financially).
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Adam Scott really gets into his role as Uncle Ben, making him one of the best parts of the movie.

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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Adam Scott While some of the cast members do their best with the material, Creator/AdamScott really gets into his role as Uncle Ben, making him one of the best parts of the movie.
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*StockFootage: The first shot, the very first shot that is shown in the end when [[spoiler:Webb has visions of the three Spider-Women all suited up & fighting crime]] is actually a reused shot from [[Film/SpiderMan2 Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 2 Movie]], specifically the scene of Spider-Man suiting up & swing off after attending a party. Now, Sony does have a stock footage database containing shots of countless buildings, but the fact that the movie specifically reuses a shot from an iconic scene from an incredibly well-known movie that plenty of people will instantly recognize raises some questions.
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* SoBadItsGood: The film is agreed upon to be worse than ''Film/{{Morbius}}'', but most people agree that whereas that movie was simply just ''boring'' bad, ''Madame Web'' is on the other hand so utterly incompetent in just about every aspect that it makes the movie more enjoyable. The sheer amount of bonkers stuff already mentioned in the spoilers, plus the fact that the actors, writers and producers clearly didn't care make for one very entertaining watch.
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* CriticalBacklash: A rare positive example. After receiving a thrashing from critics, some people started to argue that while still bad, it didn't deserve the massive amounts of hate it was getting and was more SoBadItsGood

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* CriticalBacklash: A rare positive example. After receiving a thrashing from critics, some people started to argue that while still bad, it didn't deserve the massive amounts of hate it was getting and was more SoBadItsGoodSoBadItsGood.



* SoBadItsGood: The film is agreed upon to be worse than {{Film/Morbius}}, but most people agree that whereas that movie was simply just ''boring'' bad, ''Madame Web'' is on the other hand so utterly incompetent in just about every aspect that it makes the movie more enjoyable. The sheer amount of bonkers stuff already mentioned in the spoilers, plus the fact that the actors, writers and producers clearly didn't care make for one very entertaining watch.

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* SoBadItsGood: The film is agreed upon to be worse than {{Film/Morbius}}, ''Film/{{Morbius}}'', but most people agree that whereas that movie was simply just ''boring'' bad, ''Madame Web'' is on the other hand so utterly incompetent in just about every aspect that it makes the movie more enjoyable. The sheer amount of bonkers stuff already mentioned in the spoilers, plus the fact that the actors, writers and producers clearly didn't care make for one very entertaining watch.



* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Adam Scott really gets into his role as Uncle Ben making him one of the best parts of the movie.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Adam Scott really gets into his role as Uncle Ben Ben, making him one of the best parts of the movie.
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