History YMMV / LegendsOfTomorrow

* WinTheCrowd: There was a lot of skepticism about the show when it was first announced because it just seemed liked a hodge-podge of different characters from ''Arrow'' and ''Flash''. Then we found out Creator/CaityLotz (Sara Lance/Canary) and Creator/BrandonRouth (Ray Palmer/ATOM) were cast -- then Rip Hunter and Hawkgirl were added to the cast list. Then we got the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MubNoWQiSc trailer]]. Then it turned out to be just a [[NeverTrustATrailer proof of concept thing]], but ''then'' we got the "real" [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j_mEixBPMw trailer]].

* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Prior to this season, there was not a lot to judge Creator/AmyPemberton's non-voice acting talent on. Within just a few episodes as Human Gideon, she showed great comedic timing, sold Gideon's grief at having to relive her most painful memories and proved she had incredible singing voice, to boot.

* {{Anvilicious}}: The season is blunt as a hammer to the head with its newfound obsession with political Aesop's. Not to mention every episode bagging on Nate for being a white guy for seemingly no reason.

* InferredHolocaust: The Time Masters were working with Vandal Savage because him conquering the world was the only way it could withstand the Thanagarian invasion in the future. After the Legends killed Savage, they never addressed what Earth would do to stop Thanagar.

* ShockingSwerve: The reveal that [[spoiler:Gary was an alien all along.]] The show further takes the piss by having several characters comment that it makes perfect sense in retrospect.

** The Time Masters are presented as LawfulEvil at best; they are just doing their job. While they take it to a combination of WellIntentionedExtremist and SociopathicHero, the heroes have done nothing but cause numerous alterations to the timeline that just seem to make Savage's (the man they are supposed to be trying to stop) [[NiceJobBreakingItHero efforts to take over the world that much easier]]. Add the fact that they never seem to [[AesopAmnesia learn from these experiences]] combined with Hunter’s vendetta against Savage being [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality mostly personal]] and you can see while the time police are so desperate to stop them.

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** The epic battle of Mallus vs. '''[[AscendedMeme Beebo]]''' is positively ''made'' [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome of this.]]

*** Most of the Reverse-Flash's scenes. Especially in the season finale "Aruba" when he [[MesACrowd summons up an entire army of his past selves to take down the Legends.]] Also, his unfortunate death scene right after, which shows SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome when he is disintegrated.

*** From the finale, the epic battle of Mallus vs. [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Beebo.]]

** In Episode 4, Snart [[LargeHam hams it up]] when Ray, Stein, and Rory '''HAVE BEEN CAPTURED BY THE RUSSKIES!'''

* RootingForTheEmpire: A large number of fans actually support the Time Masters and their attempts at stopping Rip's team for screwing up the timeline. Considering that Rip's team has been ineffective for the majority of their battle against Savage and ''have'' been interfering with Earth's timeline, a lot of people desire the Time Masters to play a large part in the show due to their more intriguing characteristics and [[StrawmanHasAPoint correct assumptions about Rip's team]]. [[spoiler: Until it's eventually [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] as it turns out that they were manipulating the team the whole time and secretly allied with Vandal Savage himself.]]

** This ends up being justified later in the season when we find out that this version of Thawne is a time remnant and is already being pursued by Black Flash anyway, so he really has nothing to lose by messing with the timeline.

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The Legend's treatment of Rory after he inadvertently leaks their plans to the Legion of Doom makes them come across as a bunch of real jerks. It's pretty obvious to the audience, and should be really obvious to them that it was a genuine mistake since he thought the Snart he was talking to was a hallucination, and yet they still treat him as though he was consciously selling him out. They also admit ''to his face'' to never trusting Mick even though he's been completely loyal and compliant since the season started (especially compared to how he was in season 1). It's really hard to feel bad for them when their behavior ultimately pushes him to do the very thing they accused him of and have a FaceHeelTurn for the sake of the one person who didn't treat him like crap. That even after all that, he ''still'' felt guilty enough to risk his life to try to make things right with them again only makes them look worse. Even worse is the fact that they did this ''twice''.

* EvilIsCool: Mallus. A CreepyAwesome time-demon with the voice of Creator/JohnNoble who proves to be one of The Legend's [[KnightOfCerebus most powerful and dangerous enemies.]]

** This is mitigated as the season goes on when it becomes obvious that the Bureau has a bad case of being LawfulStupid in ''anything'' involving Mallus which it takes its logical conclusion when they mutiny against Rip for trying to stop Mallus, even when they approved agents for said mission. This comes back to haunt them as Damien Darhk and the rest of the Cult run rings around the Bureau without Rip to guide them.

* MemeticBadass: Beebo the God of War. Fans immediately started to treat Beebo like a deity much like the Vikings did. This reached its pinnacle once Beebo '''canonically''' defeated Mallus.
** This trope reared its head again, when the Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover featured [[spoiler: several Arrowverse superheroes teaming up to fight a giant Beebo.]]

** The CGI used to render Mallus' true form is [[SpecialEffectFailure less smooth]] than that of, say, Grodd, but it has the effect of making him [[UncannyValley subtly unsettling to look at.]]

** Tom Wilson gives a beautifully soulful rendition of [[Music/JamesTaylor "Sweet Baby James."]]

** Neron Ray getting Gary to join him...by returning his [[BrickJoke bitten-off nipple to him]], and [[ARareSentence that description]] isn't even [[SerialEscalation the most ludicrous part.]] The nipple slowly crawling towards Gary? Gross. Him whispering "It's beautiful" in rapturous awe? Hilarious and beyond strange.

* ReplacementScrappy: Neron to Mallus. Compared to how godlike and fear encoring Mallus was, Neron just does not deliver the same threat level.

* MemeticMutation: "This is my boyfriend Ray and his boyfriend Nate"[[note]]Ray taking both Nate and Nora to prom in "Slay Anything" led to many comparisons to the famous ''{{Series/Parks and Recreation}} gag''[[/note]]

* MoralEventHorizon: Bishop commits a number of despicable actions throughout the season, but in the season's penultimate episode we see a new low to his depravity, when he [[spoiler: fatally poisons John Constantine, sets a bomb to [[WouldHurtAChild destroy the half-Necrian eggs of Kayla and Mick]] which possibly kills the latter, and reveals that his ultimate intention is to ''encourage'' an alien invasion of Earth to [[OmnicidalManiac hasten its destruction]], so that [[ItsAllAboutMe he alone]] can restart it]].
* NauseaFuel: The Big Bang Burger mascot barfing alien goo onto the ceiling of the Waverider medbay.
* ShockingSwerve: The reveal that [[spoiler:Gary was an alien all along came completely out of nowhere and contradicted previous information.]] The show further takes the piss by having several characters comment that it makes perfect sense in retrospect.

* EvilIsCool: Mallus. A CreepyAwesome time-demon with the voice of Creator/JohnNoble who proves to be one of The Legend's most powerful and dangerous enemies.

** The CGI used to render Mallus' true form is less smooth than that of, say, Grodd, but it has the effect of making him subtly unsettling to look at.

* SeasonalRot: While not bad, fans consider it the weakest season since Season One for a variety of reasons: the much maligned awkward and forced romance between Zari and Nate which took the focus of several episodes (not helped by the natural chemistry Charlie and Zari), too much focus on the Time Bureau employees at the expense of the Legends, ''especially'' Constantine the season's main selling point, the new character Mona quickly becoming TheScrappy (something that the series had managed to avoid since the first season), the writers constantly changing their mind at the last minute (like turning Hank into a JerkWithAHeartOfGold despite several episodes of setting him up as the antagonist which was their original plan), and a rather underwhelming finale which fans might've forgiven had the writers not {{RetGone}}d Zari and replacing her with her brother.

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: After his real plan is revealed the audience is obviously supposed to view Hank Heywood as redeemed...except that torturing magical creatures to make them docile enough to pose in an amusement park is ''still'' a horrible thing to do! At best, he's ObliviouslyEvil with a WhatMeasureIsANonHuman mentality, as his actions dip into SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil.

* WinBackTheCrowd: Season 5 was generally much better received than the controversial Season 4.

* RootingForTheEmpire: A large number of fans actually support the Time Masters and their attempts at stopping Rip's team for screwing up the timeline. Considering that Rip's team has been ineffective for the majority of their battle against Savage and ''have'' been interfering with Earth's timeline, a lot of people desire the Time Masters to play a large part in the show due to their more intriguing characteristics and [[StrawmanHasAPoint correct assumptions about Rip's team]]. Until it turns out that they were manipulating the team the whole time.

** Carter/Hawkman. Most cite him as boring, too serious, and overall just plain generic in a show where many characters have their fair share of comedic moments to work with the lighthearted tone of the show. He dies at the second half of the pilot, which was made him even less important of a character. Even when he returns at the end of the season, he ends up having little importance for the plot resolution.
** Kendra/Hawkgirl was better received than Carter at the beginning of the season, but it didn't take long for fans to start complaining about the RomanticPlotTumor with Ray, that consumed precious time of the season. Furthermore, after Carter's death, Kendra became the most serious, and consequently, least interesting character in the cast of Season 1. The MemeticMutation about Kendra remembering the whole time that she was a barista also didn't help.
** The show's treatment of Vandal Savage is widely consider one of the worst villians in the Arrowverse. This started when the show [[CompositeCharacter combined him]] with the jealous priest Hath-Set from Hawkman and Hawkgirl's origin stories. This results in a RomanticPlotTumor that takes away much of Savage's trademark WickedCultured nature, as the show instead focuses on his VillainousCrush on Hawkgirl. Plus he's not nearly as old (and thus less experienced) as the comic version who was [[TimeAbyss a caveman]]. While many agree that Casper Crump is a good actor, he is viewed as having failed at bringing the necessary menace to the role. [[OldShame Even the writers admit that]] [[CreatorsPest they dislike the final vision of the character]].

* EvilIsCool: In stark contrast with Season 1 who had the very divisive Savage, Season 2 gave us numerous badass antagonists.

** The several intros in Season 2 where the Legends tell the audience [[InsistentTerminology they aren't heroes and we should call them Legends]]. Eventually gets a LampshadeHanging when Rory takes over the narration in a massively annoyed tone, ending with "Who writes this crap?"

** In "Land of the Lost" Rip kissing the human Gideon when he's trapped in his subconscious. He basically gets...intimate with his ship which should be pure {{squick}}. But thanks to some damn fine acting from Arthur Darvill and Creator/AmyPemberton it becomes heart-warming.

* {{Anvilicious}}: Some would say this of the "Night of the Hawk" episode, particularly the diner scene. Stein expresses nostalgia for his youth and comments that the town isn't so bad, to which Jax and Sara snark that it isn't if you're white, male and/or straight. However, as NoEqualOpportunityTimeTravel was clearly in effect, the two [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped had a legitimate point]].

* MagnificentBastard: Leonard Snart, [[MagnificentBastard see here]].

** Sara and Leonard, or [[PortmanteauCoupleName Captain Canary]] are very popular among fans, helped in no small part by the actors' [[ThrowItIn ad-libbing plenty of dialogue]] which helps their onscreen chemistry really shine. The two of them share a kiss in the 15th episode of the first season... just before Leonard sacrifices himself to stop the Time Masters by destroying the Occulus.

** Snart is a criminal and a thief but his life was bad with his [[AbusiveParents father]] going to prison, and beating him and his mother. Snart was forced into crime by his father and went to Juvenile Detention by age 14, where he was nearly killed before he was saved by Mick. He is forced to strand his own best friend after Mick's betrayal. In Season 2, after his death Mick begins to have hallucinations about him... that is, until the ''actual'' Snart, pulled from an earlier point from before he even met the other Legends, returns to goad Mick into finding the Spear for the Legion of Doom. By the time the Legends are able to revert the damage, Mick sends Snart back to the time he came from, wiping his memory of his time with the Legion and leaving him in a warehouse in Central City.

* AssPull: "Star City 2046" pulls out the TimeyWimeyBall to a level perhaps even worse than [[Recap/TheFlash2014S2E11TheReverseFlashReturns Eobard Thawne's "temporal echo"]] in ''The Flash'' that this show had to step in to explain. It seems changing the future is even worse than changing the past because it's always in flux... except "the future" is a completely arbitrary concept in the first place when you're dealing with time travel, not to mention the whole reason they're on this mission is to stop events much further in the future than they are here.

* CatharsisFactor: The Legends brutally kill Savage in the first season finale... ''three'' times.

** Gang-banging the timeline. [[labelnote:Explanation]]In reference to the ''Flash'' meme of "Barry fucking the timeline", the season 2 ending scene shows that the Legends have broken time to such an extent that it makes Flashpoint look downright plebian in comparison, leading to jokes that they... well, gang-banged the timeline.[[/labelnote]]

** In "Land of the Lost" Rip kissing the human Gideon when he's trapped in his subconscious. He basically gets... intimate with his ship which should be pure {{squick}}. But thanks to some damn fine acting from Arthur Darvill and Creator/AmyPemberton it becomes heart-warming.

** The LegionOfDoom arc in Season Two, mainly because their membership is composed of [[ArchEnemy Arch Enemies]] of Barry and Oliver... and Barry and Oliver never show up to help the Legends defeat them, in what could've been a very awesome AvengersAssemble {{CrossOver}} -- especially since Barry is the one responsible for Thawne still being alive. Indeed when the Legion rewrites reality the Legends are kept alive each with their own individual FateWorseThanDeath while everybody from Team Arrow and Team Flash have been killed off as if they're simply not worth the Legion's time to torment.

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: After his real plan is revealed the audience is obviously supposed to view Hank Heywood as redeemed... except that torturing magical creatures to make them docile enough to pose in an amusement park is ''still'' a horrible thing to do! At best, he's ObliviouslyEvil with a WhatMeasureIsANonHuman mentality, as his actions dip into SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil.

** Of all the Arrowverse series, ''Legends of Tomorrow'' seems to be the one that best uses this trope. From the change in tone, from DarkerAndEdgier to DenserAndWackier, and also quickly getting rid of a character who became TheScrappy on fandom.

* FandomRivalry: Despite being part of the same franchise and the latter's existence creating this show, fans of ''Legends'' and fans of ''The Flash'' have often butted heads since the first season. Besides the issue of ''Legends'' effectively cutting ''The Flash'' off from using Captain Cold and Heat Wave, thus averting the formation of the Rogues, the two had problems first over the Legends giving Barry a lecture on time travel abuse after Flashpoint during the ''Invasion'' crossover (leading some of Barry's more defensive fans to attack Sara, due to her own attempts to save her sister despite the difference in damage the two events would cause), then later the show 'stealing' Wally West after ''The Flash'''s well-documented poor use of him (see Season 3's subfolder). In general, the two shows have had the most heat between one-another of the Arrowverse shows, not helped by the fact ''both'' involve time travel heavily but with ''vastly'' different attitudes to its implications and rules. Barry has to live with the consequences of creating and then negating Flashpoint, while the Legends never suffer any consequences for their constant screw ups.

* GrowingTheBeard: Season 2 has been welcomed quite happily even by people who disliked the first season, for an oddly enough reason: the crew is praised for abandoning any attempt to have a sensible story in favor of going completely nuts with the fact that they're writing a story about a time-traveling superhero team. With The Flash season 3 suffering from Seasonal Rot, Legends of Tomorrow is now the "fun" show on the Arrowverse. The fact that Damien Darhk and Eobard Thawne are the main villains this season also helps.

* InformedWrongness: Sara wanting to save Laurel is treated as being on-par with Barry creating Flashpoint, with characters scolding her on how reckless it would be, Rip refusing to take her to Laurel's death to prevent it, and even when given the Spear of Destiny, using it to revive Laurel is treated as a dark temptation Sara ultimately has to reject. However, in comparison to saving Nora Allen or preventing the massacre of Amaya's village, saving Laurel would have the least harm on the timeline since it only happened recently (when Sara first declares wanting to undo it, Laurel had been dead for ''mere weeks''), instead of wanting to change entire decades worth of history. The main issue is really Sara's methods, which were to target Damien Darhk in an earlier point in his life, which ''would'' have untold effects on decades of history, ''but'' this is something she's only attempting because she was refused the option of just saving Laurel at the time of her death. And even still, it's not any different than Rip wanting to remove Vandal Savage from the timeline ''centuries'' before he's destined to kill Rip's wife and child, which was ''the entire point'' of the first season.

* WinTheCrowd: There was a lot of skepticism about the show when it was first announced because it just seemed liked a hodge-podge of different characters from ''Arrow'' and ''Flash''. Then we found out Creator/CaityLotz (Sara Lance/Canary) and Creator/BrandonRouth (Ray Palmer/ATOM) were cast -- then Rip Hunter and Hawkgirl were added to the cast list. Then we got the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MubNoWQiSc trailer.]] Then it turned out to be just a [[NeverTrustATrailer proof of concept thing]], but ''then'' we got the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j_mEixBPMw "real" trailer.]]

* {{Anvilicious}}: Some would say this of the "Night of the Hawk" episode, particularly the diner scene. Stein expresses nostalgia for his youth and comments that the town isn't so bad, to which Jax and Sara snark that it isn't if you're white, male and/or straight. However, as NoEqualOpportunityTimeTravel was clearly in effect, the two [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped had a legitimate point.]]

* CrazyIsCool: Aside from [[{{Pyromaniac}} Mick Rory]], we have [[NotSoAboveItAll Professor Stein]], who gets in on the mix by [[SlippingAMickey drugging Jax]], and pulls a BavarianFireDrill on a bouncer at a terrorist meeting by claiming to be in charge (or at least part of) of the operational wing of a terrorist group called Scimitar with such vigor that he is let through. [[OddFriendship Rory loves this.]]

* DesignatedVillain: The Time Masters are presented as LawfulEvil at best; they are just doing their job. While they take it to a combination of WellIntentionedExtremist and SociopathicHero, the heroes have done nothing but cause numerous alterations to the timeline that just seem to make Savage's (the man they are supposed to be trying to stop) [[NiceJobBreakingItHero efforts to take over the world that much easier]]. Add the fact that they never seem to [[AesopAmnesia learn from these experiences]] combined with Hunter’s vendetta against Savage being [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality mostly personal]] and you can see while the time police are so desperate to stop them.

** Subverted. They were working with Savage the whole time, and the aforementioned NiceJobBreakingItHero was ''their'' doing.

* HesJustHiding: How some people believe to be the fate of [[spoiler: Mick]], since we don't actually see Leonard kill him. He is confirmed to be alive in "Left Behind."

** If the ''Flash'' and ''Arrow'' episodes didn't tell you enough how bad Savage is, him murdering Rip Hunter's wife [[WouldHurtAChild and son]] during his global conquest in the ''very first scene'' surely does. He only gets worse in the third episode when the Savage of the past hears of this and gloats about how he looks forward to doing it.

* SpecialEffectFailure: While for the most part the effects aren't too bad, there are times when Kendra's wings can look rather iffy, especially when she isn't in costume, often looking like they are just attached to her back like they were clipped on. Doesn't help that it can be a bit narm-y that Kendra can sprout giant wings out of her back with no damage whatsoever being done to the clothes she has on.

** It takes ''ten'' episodes for the Legends to figure out that the mysterious evil speedster they're fighting is Eobard Thawne. They could've figured it out much sooner if they had just bothered to ask Barry. It doesn't help that Martin Stein was ''there'' during the fights with Reverse-Flash, as well as Eobard's true face being revealed.

* MorePopularReplacement: Nate and Amaya ended up replacing Hawkman and Hawkgirl from the Season 1 lineup, who were heavily disliked for many reasons from a [[RomanticPlotTumor terrible character arc]] to poor acting. In contrast Nate and Amaya, were tremendously better received by the fandom for being more likable characters and being a better fit for the team.

* HoYay: After their friendship developed in season two, the tenth episode of the third season ends with Leo announcing that he's going to marry Ray and, when Mick is surprised, clarifies that he's going to be marrying his Ray, not "your Ray."

* NarmCharm: The CGI used to render Mallus' true form is less smooth than that of, say, Grodd, but it has the effect of making him subtly unsettling to look at.

* SignatureScene: Again, Beebo vs. Mallus, which minutes after it aired had already become one of the most iconic scenes of the show, and many people have commented that it is basically [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome the entire show in a nutshell.]]

* SugarWiki/SheReallyCanAct: Maisie Richardson-Sellers' performance as Amaya was already quite popular, but this season she really gets to show her range as the ''completely'' different character of punk rock shapeshifter Charlie.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: While Maisie Richardson-Sellers ''is'' beloved by the fandom, many think that she already ''had'' her time on the show and would've preferred Charlie to be furthermore portrayed by Anjli Mohindra, whose performance was very well received in her debut episode.

* AngstWhatAngst: You'd never know that the season four finale had Nate being murdered by a demon who was possessing his best friend (before being resurrected) or that his father had been murdered by the same demon. His death is only referred to a few times and his father isn't even mentioned when they're talking about what they'd want to change with the Loom.

-->"Dear Sara, I'm sorry the vigilante you slept with when he was already dating your sister [[HeroicSacrifice died.]] Some say it’s better to have loved and lost, but [[ItsAllAboutMe I hope you]] [[ClingyJealousGirl never loved him at all.]]"

* EnsembleDarkhorse: The singing cowboy narrator.

** A strange one also crops up with ''Series/DoomPatrol2019'', due to both being oddball superhero shows about Loveable screwups that are DenserAndWackier than the rest of what's offered. The main crux of the rivalry is the debate about which one does it better, as some ''Doom Patrol'' fans feel ''Legends'' merely uses the oddball comedy to cover for the fact it has the same failings the rest of the CW suffer from, or find its attempts at this style of humour to be more cringey than funny. For their part, ''Legends'' fans [[FriendlyFandom tend to actually like DP]], so it's very one-sided.

** The epic battle of Mallus vs. '''[[AscendedMeme Beebo]]''' is [[CrazyAwesome positively]] ''[[CrazyAwesome made]]'' [[CrazyAwesome of this.]]

* CrazyAwesome: Aside from [[{{Pyromaniac}} Mick Rory]], we have [[NotSoAboveItAll Professor Stein]], who gets in on the mix by [[SlippingAMickey drugging Jax]], and pulls a BavarianFireDrill on a bouncer at a terrorist meeting by claiming to be in charge (or at least part of) of the operational wing of a terrorist group called Scimitar with such vigor that he is let through. [[OddFriendship Rory loves this.]]

* CrazyAwesome: By this point, it's safe to say that the entire cast - hell, the entire ''show'' - is this in one way or another. The Legends specialize in coming up with the most unorthodox plans and letting all hell break loose to save the day. It's hard to say where exactly it started, but the absolute undeniable high point is fighting Mallus and ''winning'' with a ''two-story-tall avatar of '''[[AscendedMeme Beebo]].''' ''

* SignatureScene: Again, Beebo vs. Mallus, which minutes after it aired had already become one of the most iconic scenes of the show, and many people have commented that it is basically [[CrazyAwesome the entire show in a nutshell.]]

* EnsembleDarkgouse: The singing cowboy narrator.

* ShockingSwerve: The reveal that [[spoiler:Gary was an alien all along came completely out of nowhere and contradicted previous information.]]

* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The animated sequence in The Satanist's Apprentice looks absolutely gorgeous, especially given the limitations of a television budget.