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** The sidequest to defeat Bendak Starkiller is infamous as one of the most difficult fights in the game. You have to fight him on Taris when EarlyGameHell is very much still in effect and you don't have any Jedi powers, he's a DuelBoss (meaning no hiding behind Zaalbar or Bastila to keep you alive), and he has very high combat parameters for that point in the game plus three plasma grenades. And if you're saving levels for more Force powers? God help you. It's quite telling that the typical strategy is to run away until he's done chucking plasma grenades at you and then use your own supply of plasma grenades (which generally ignore stats and would normally fall under the heading of TooAwesomeToUse at that point in the game) to overwhelm him.



** The indigenous population of Tatooine are referred to as "Sand People". While the use of the name to refer to them was consistent with Star Wars lore at the time (and is what they call themselves, the "Tusken Raiders" appellation coming later in the ''Legends'' timeline and imposed on them by later colonists), it's become somewhat of a slur against people of Middle Eastern and North African descent during TheNewTens.

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** The indigenous population of Tatooine are referred to as "Sand People". While the use of the name to refer to them was consistent with Star Wars ''Star Wars'' lore at the time (and is what they call themselves, the "Tusken Raiders" appellation coming later in the ''Legends'' timeline and imposed on them by later colonists), it's become somewhat of a slur against people of Middle Eastern and North African descent during TheNewTens.
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** The Switch version is prone to crashing upon loading new areas, and the January 2022 update introduced a GameBreakingBug that locks the player in Naga Sadow's tomb. Said bug wouldn't be fixed until February 2024.

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** The Switch version is prone to crashing upon loading new areas, and the January May 2022 update introduced a GameBreakingBug that locks the player in Naga Sadow's tomb. Said bug wouldn't be fixed until February 2024.
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** The Switch version is prone to crashing upon loading new areas, and the January 2022 update introduced a GameBreakingBug that locks the player in Naga Sadow's tomb.

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** The Switch version is prone to crashing upon loading new areas, and the January 2022 update introduced a GameBreakingBug that locks the player in Naga Sadow's tomb. Said bug wouldn't be fixed until February 2024.
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** Speaking of Malak, the scene where he tortures Bastila has the latter [[BigNo screaming "NOOOO!!!"]] in an absurdly goofy/melodramatic tone. [[https://youtu.be/bNXA2Q81sno&t=50s It has to be heard to be believed.]]
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* EvilIsSexy: Chantique's outfits are eerily similar to some of the stuff Emma Frost wears, as well as dominatrix outfits in general.

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* OnceOriginalNowCommon:
** When the game came out, Creator/BioWare was still relatively new to non-isometric gaming and the idea of a ''Star Wars'' RPG set in the franchise's ancient history was novel and exciting. Now, with a more-mature [=BioWare=] coming out with better games, and with many other titles, including its own sequel, improving on it in many ways, the original ''Knights of the Old Republic'' can come off as a bog-standard console RPG with bland and simplistic writing to more modern audiences.
** Bioware has become very well-known for having a GayOption, to the point where it's very noticeable when it's ''not'' there. They only managed to get Juhani in the game by flying very low under the Lucasarts radar, and even there, there was a lot of controversy and protest as she was the first established LGBTQ character ''ever'' in ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends''.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny:
** When the game came out, Creator/BioWare was still relatively new to non-isometric gaming and the idea of a ''Star Wars'' RPG set in the franchise's ancient history was novel and exciting. Now, with a more-mature [=BioWare=] coming out with better games, and with many other titles, including its own sequel, improving on it in many ways, the original ''Knights of the Old Republic'' can come off as a bog-standard console RPG with bland and simplistic writing to more modern audiences.
** Bioware has become very well-known for having a GayOption, to the point where it's very noticeable when it's ''not'' there. They only managed to get Juhani in the game by flying very low under the Lucasarts radar, and even there, there was a lot of controversy and protest as she was the first established LGBTQ character ''ever'' in ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends''.

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** The aforementioned torture scene has Carth, Bastilla, and the player being subjected to ColdBloodedTorture via electricity... and they are not only screaming with their mouths closed but they perform the exact same motions ''in sync'' so it looks more like they are dancing.

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** The aforementioned torture scene has Carth, Bastilla, Bastila, and the player being subjected to ColdBloodedTorture via electricity... and they are not only screaming with their mouths closed but they perform the exact same motions ''in sync'' so it looks more like they are dancing.



* ThatOneBoss: Malak can be this if you haven't done your build right (though he can also be an AntiClimaxBoss if the player knows what they're doing throughout the game). Going Light Side Scoundrel/Consular is one example, as you have very few hit points compared to, say, a Soldier/Guardian, and most of your damage comes from stunning your enemies and doing loads of sneak attack. Problem is, Malak's got very high saves and will almost always make his saving throws against your Force attacks.

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** Ironically enough, the dark side alignment lock boss fight can get very messy very fast if you've been playing optimally. [[spoiler:It's a two-on-two fight between you and a freshly fallen Bastila (who is stuck with a poorly optimized JackOfAllStats build) vs. Jolee and Juhani, who retain their stats and equipment from their time in your party. If they are well-built enough, they can tag-team and annihilate you in short order, and Bastila is no match for them on her own.]]
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Malak can be this if you haven't done your build right (though he can also be an AntiClimaxBoss if the player knows what they're doing throughout the game). Going Light Side Scoundrel/Consular is one example, as you have very few hit points compared to, say, a Soldier/Guardian, and most of your damage comes from stunning your enemies and doing loads of sneak attack.attacks. Problem is, Malak's got very high saves and will almost always make his saving throws against your Force attacks.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The game never explores how Revan comes to terms with TheReveal that his personality has been rewritten by the Jedi Council. The game's BlackAndWhiteMorality shoehorns all of Revan's responses into either "I am a servant of the light now" or "Darth Revan is back!" and going fully dark side.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The game never explores how Revan comes to terms with TheReveal that his their personality has been rewritten by the Jedi Council. The game's BlackAndWhiteMorality shoehorns all of Revan's responses into either "I am a servant of the light now" or "Darth Revan is back!" and going fully dark side.
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* TheyWasterAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The game never explores how Revan comes to terms with TheReveal that his personality has been rewritten by the Jedi Council. The game's BlackAndWhiteMorality shoehorns all of Revan's responses into either "I am a servant of the light now" or "Darth Revan is back!" and going fully dark side.

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* TheyWasterAPerfectlyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The game never explores how Revan comes to terms with TheReveal that his personality has been rewritten by the Jedi Council. The game's BlackAndWhiteMorality shoehorns all of Revan's responses into either "I am a servant of the light now" or "Darth Revan is back!" and going fully dark side.
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* TheyWasterAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The game never explores how Revan comes to terms with TheReveal that his personality has been rewritten by the Jedi Council. The game's BlackAndWhiteMorality shoehorns all of Revan's responses into either "I am a servant of the light now" or "Darth Revan is back!" and going fully dark side.
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** The UsefulNotes/{{STEAM}} versions of both ''KOTOR 1'' and ''KOTOR 2'' struggle to run on modern operating systems despite being released on STEAM long after Windows XP computers were in the minority, with movie cutscenes being a particular problem spot. The Website/GOGDotCom versions enjoy a bit more support but are still crash-happy. The Steam version of [=KOTOR=] 2 edged more towards PolishedPort eventually, however.

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** The UsefulNotes/{{STEAM}} UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} versions of both ''KOTOR 1'' and ''KOTOR 2'' struggle to run on modern operating systems despite being released on STEAM long after Windows XP computers were in the minority, with movie cutscenes being a particular problem spot. The Website/GOGDotCom versions enjoy a bit more support but are still crash-happy. The Steam version of [=KOTOR=] 2 edged more towards PolishedPort eventually, however.
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** Zayne and Jarael [[spoiler: getting together at the end of comic. Even though it's a bit of a LastMinuteHookup, after everything the two of have been through it's still very sweet. Even better, the end of mini-series reveals that they're still together even after Zayne gets back from the Mandalorian Wars. ]]

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** Zayne and Jarael [[spoiler: getting together at the end of comic. Even though it's a bit of a LastMinuteHookup, after everything the two of them have been through it's still very sweet. Even better, the end of mini-series reveals that they're still together even after Zayne gets back from the Mandalorian Wars. ]]
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**Zayne and Jarael [[spoiler: getting together at the end of comic. Even though it's a bit of a LastMinuteHookup, after everything the two of have been through it's still very sweet. Even better, the end of mini-series reveals that they're still together even after Zayne gets back from the Mandalorian Wars. ]]

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* ThatOneSidequest: Beating all the swoop racing champions. Not only does it take a lot of practice, patience, trial and error, but the promoters also charge you 100 credits every time you race. Even more frustrating is an unskippable cutscene of you slowly returning from racing and getting booed you have to endure every freakin' time you lose. It gets ''really'' annoying if you only lost by a tenth of a second or so, though you can always SaveScum to just before you talked to the race manager the first time to save money.

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Beating all the swoop racing champions. Not only does it take a lot of practice, patience, trial and error, but the promoters also charge you 100 credits every time you race. Even more frustrating is an unskippable cutscene of you slowly returning from racing and getting booed you have to endure every freakin' time you lose. It gets ''really'' annoying if you only lost by a tenth of a second or so, though you can always SaveScum to just before you talked to the race manager the first time to save money.money.
** Trying to end Sunry's trial with an innocent verdict involves questioning the witnesses extensively, gathering a load of evidence to present to both Sunry and the witnesses, and it's capped off with careful maneuvering through a very long dialogue sequence at the Selkath courts. It's far easier to land a guilty verdict for him -- this still ends the quest but yields a smaller reward.
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** If an alien doesn't speak Basic, expect to hear the same [[SpeakingSimlish alien gibberish]] over and over, with only a handful of variations depending on species, gender and tone. It's hard to take the conflict on Kashyyyk seriously when 90% of the important dialogue is spoken with the same Wookiee sample.

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** If an alien doesn't speak Basic, expect to hear the same [[SpeakingSimlish alien gibberish]] over and over, with only a handful of variations depending on species, gender and tone. It's hard to take the conflict on Kashyyyk seriously when 90% of the important dialogue is spoken with the same Wookiee sample.sample, and the Manaan courts become a lot more boring when it's mostly Selkath gurgling sounds.



** Manaan. Lots of running around, little fighting, and plenty of endlessly looped Selkath speech audio as you develop eyestrain reading all the subtitled text. You ''will'' be tempted to murder every Selkath in the house by the time you're done. And the scuba suit segments take ''forever''.
** Taris is loathed by many due to being a MarathonLevel for a SlowPacedBeginning. The level involves spending a huge amount of time running around many areas (including the Uppercity, Lowercity, Undercity and its sewers, as well as the Black Vulkar base) to track down Bastila. Later, you need to break into a Sith base and infiltrate Davik's estate to steal the Ebon Hawk so you could get off Taris. Eventually it is followed by a mandatory gun turret mini-game. Due to the low level cap (20), many players prefer saving the levels of their character at this point so they could gain more levels as a Jedi later on, which makes completing Taris even more difficult.
** Kashyyyk. It's full of monotonous "go here, get that" type of quests, doesn't give you a lot of choice in how the story plays out, the terrain is frustrating, party members switching is disabled for the most part as well as [[EscapeRope party transit]], and since virtually every character is a Wookiee you're going to hear a ''lot'' of "arr arr arr"... but Jolee Bindo is a useful and necessary character, especially in the later stages of the game, and the sooner you get him, the better.

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** Manaan. Lots of running around, little fighting, and plenty of endlessly looped Selkath speech audio as you develop eyestrain reading all the subtitled text. You ''will'' be tempted to murder every Selkath in the house by the time you're done. And the scuba suit segments take ''forever''.
** Taris is loathed by many due to being a MarathonLevel for a SlowPacedBeginning. The level involves spending a huge amount of time running around many areas (including the Uppercity, Lowercity, Upper City, Lower City, Undercity and its sewers, as well as the Black Vulkar base) to track down Bastila. Later, you need to break into a Sith base and infiltrate Davik's estate to steal the Ebon Hawk so you could get off Taris. Eventually it is followed by a mandatory gun turret mini-game. Due to While the low challenges are scaled for characters up to level cap (20), many 6 to 8, players prefer saving looking to maximize the amount of Jedi levels of their character at they gain want the player as low a level as possible, and since you CantDropTheHero, it means going with an effective two-man party for this point so they could gain more levels as planet's entirety.
** Manaan. The first half has lots of running back-and-forth with very little combat to break up the monotony, and the major sidequests that take place here put you into very long dialogue sequences with the Selkath courts. This means listening to looped Selkath speech audio while you develop eyestrain reading the subtitles. When you finally get to the real meat of the section, the Hrakert Rift, you're forced into underwater sections where you trudge along the seabed at
a Jedi later on, which makes completing Taris even more difficult.
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** Kashyyyk. It's full of monotonous "go here, get that" type of quests, doesn't give you a lot of choice in how the story plays out, the terrain is frustrating, party members switching is disabled for the most part as well as [[EscapeRope party transit]], and since virtually every character is a Wookiee you're going to hear a ''lot'' of "arr arr arr"... but Wookiee speech. The common saving grace is that you meet Jolee Bindo is here, who's a useful party member and necessary character, especially in the later stages of the game, and the sooner you get him, the better.a great character to talk to.

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* MoralEventHorizon: See [[MoralEventHorizon/StarWars here]].



* MoralEventHorizon:
** Saul crosses it pre-game when he [[spoiler:bombarded Carth's home planet]]. He was [[spoiler:Carth's trusted mentor and friend]], and he made the decision to ''kill his family.''
** Malak uses it as an EstablishingCharacterMoment by ordering the wholesale orbital bombardment of Taris just because he's ''impatient'', killing billions of people just because it's taking too long to search for Bastila. Not only are we talking [[TheSociopath total sociopath]], but someone who is a textbook case of [[EvilIsPetty wasteful villainy]]. It says a lot that the fellow above voices an ''objection'' to the order.
** If Chuundar didn't cross it selling his political opponents into slavery to shore up his position as Chieftain, then he's crossing it by imprisoning his brother, Zaalbar. And if that isn't enough of a line cross [[spoiler: ordering the party to go and kill their father]] completes a trifecta of "this guy is a dirtbag."
** The Player Character using a Jedi Mind Trick to make [[spoiler:Zaalbar kill Mission]] is considered to be the worst thing you can do in the game.

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* MoralEventHorizon:
** Saul crosses it pre-game when he [[spoiler:bombarded Carth's home planet]]. He was [[spoiler:Carth's trusted mentor and friend]], and he made the decision to ''kill his family.''
** Malak uses it as an EstablishingCharacterMoment by ordering the wholesale orbital bombardment of Taris just because he's ''impatient'', killing billions of people just because it's taking too long to search for Bastila. Not only are we talking [[TheSociopath total sociopath]], but someone who is a textbook case of [[EvilIsPetty wasteful villainy]]. It says a lot that the fellow above voices an ''objection'' to the order.
** If Chuundar didn't cross it selling his political opponents into slavery to shore up his position as Chieftain, then he's crossing it by imprisoning his brother, Zaalbar. And if that isn't enough of a line cross [[spoiler: ordering the party to go and kill their father]] completes a trifecta of "this guy is a dirtbag."
** The Player Character using a Jedi Mind Trick to make [[spoiler:Zaalbar kill Mission]] is considered to be the worst thing you can do in the game.
MoralEventHorizon: See [[MoralEventHorizon/StarWars here]].
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** Similar to the Manaan trick above, if Zalbaar is stripped of all of his equipment before temporarily leaving the party on Kashyyk, everything he was wearing will be duplicated.

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** Similar to the Manaan trick above, if Zalbaar is stripped of all of his equipment before temporarily leaving the party on Kashyyk, Kashyyyk, everything he was wearing will be duplicated.



* HeartwarmingInHindsight: When you play ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' on the Malestrom Prison flashpoint, one of the ships leading the jailbreak effort is named the ''Onasi'' - three hundred years later, and Carth is still bailing Revan's ass out of trouble.

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: When you play ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' on the Malestrom Maelstrom Prison flashpoint, one of the ships leading the jailbreak effort is named the ''Onasi'' - three hundred years later, and Carth is still bailing Revan's ass out of trouble.



** The aformentioned torture scene has Carth, Bastilla, and the player being subjected to ColdBloodedTorture via electricity... and they are not only screaming with their mouths closed but they perform the exact same motions ''in sync'' so it looks more like they are dancing.

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** The aformentioned aforementioned torture scene has Carth, Bastilla, and the player being subjected to ColdBloodedTorture via electricity... and they are not only screaming with their mouths closed but they perform the exact same motions ''in sync'' so it looks more like they are dancing.

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