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** Captain Tenille. His Stand ''seems'' challenging enough... until you learn it only has 300 HP, and if you leveled Jotaro up enough at the harbor (or successfully beat Dark Blue Moon within three turns for a sneak attack) the only thing you need to worry about is the ten turn limit. And there's even a way to bypass ''that''.
** Cameo also, because his Stand has ''even less'' HP than Captain Tenille. It respawns infinitely until you find Cameo, yes, but it goes down in about 2 or 3 hits so it's really just a speed bump if anything. This is averted in the BossRush, where it is actually a somewhat challenging fight.

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** The Captain Tenille.Tenille Imposter. His Stand ''seems'' challenging enough... until you learn it only has 300 HP, and if you leveled Jotaro up enough at the harbor (or successfully beat Dark Blue Moon within three turns for a sneak attack) the only thing you need to worry about is the ten turn limit. And there's even a way to bypass ''that''.
** Cameo also, because his Stand has ''even less'' HP than the Captain Tenille.Tenille Imposter. It respawns infinitely until you find Cameo, yes, but it goes down in about 2 or 3 hits so it's really just a speed bump if anything. This is averted in the BossRush, where it is actually a somewhat challenging fight.
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* CompleteMonster: [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureDIO DIO]] proves to be just as vile as his canon counterpart. After murdering and stealing the body of his adoptive brother Jonathan, DIO murders and drains the blood of countless innocents to heal himself. When DIO senses the presence of the Joestars, he infects Kakyoin and Polnareff with flesh buds to mind control them into being his minions, knowing that these flesh buds will eventually kill them. When the heroes attempt to take a plane to Egypt, DIO has Grey Fly bring down the passenger plane they're on. It's also revealed that he had another one of his men stationed in Japan to destroy any plane the heroes would return in even if they abandon their quest. When his loyal right-hand woman Enya Geil is captured by the party, he hires Steely Dan to [[BadBoss murder her]] to ensure that [[HeKnowsTooMuch she doesn't divulge his powers]]. If the PlayerCharacter decides to watch over Kakyoin in the hospital after he gets injured by N'Doul, DIO will send Oingo and Boingo to set off explosives in the hospital. When pursuing Jotaro and company, DIO abducts Senator Phillips, forces him to drive at lethal speeds through pedestrians, and then [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness kills him when he's caught up with the heroes]]. In the Betrayal Ending, if the protagonist has enough [[RelationshipValues friendship points with Kakyoin and Polnareff]], DIO and the protagonist will manipulate them into betraying and killing the Joestars.

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* CompleteMonster: [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureDIO DIO]] proves to be just as vile as his canon counterpart. After murdering and stealing the body of his adoptive brother Jonathan, DIO murders and drains the blood of countless innocents to heal himself. When DIO senses the presence of the Joestars, he infects Kakyoin and Polnareff with flesh buds to mind control them into being his minions, knowing that these flesh buds will eventually kill them. When the heroes attempt to take a plane to Egypt, DIO has Grey Fly bring down the passenger plane they're on. It's also revealed that he had another one of his men stationed in Japan to destroy any plane the heroes would return in even if they abandon their quest. When his loyal right-hand woman Enya Geil is captured by the party, he hires Steely Dan to [[BadBoss murder her]] to ensure that [[HeKnowsTooMuch she doesn't divulge his powers]]. If the PlayerCharacter decides to watch over Kakyoin in the hospital after he gets injured by N'Doul, DIO will send Oingo and Boingo to set off explosives in the hospital. When pursuing Jotaro and company, the heroes, DIO abducts Senator Phillips, forces him to drive at lethal speeds through pedestrians, and then [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness kills him when he's caught up with the heroes]]. In the Betrayal Ending, if the protagonist has enough [[RelationshipValues friendship points with Kakyoin and Polnareff]], DIO and the protagonist will manipulate them into betraying and killing the Joestars.
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* ScrappyMechanic: Despite the game allowing up to 4 Crusaders to partake in a fight at once, when walking around, you're only allowed to bring one other party member with you at a time. This makes leveling up your party members far more tedious than it would otherwise be, as with the exception of a few story events, only one of them at a time will be getting EXP.

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* BreatherBoss: Of all characters, [[spoiler: ''Vanilla Ice'']] becomes this on the route to the GoldenEnding. His fight comes right after [[spoiler: D'arby,]] who constantly has an accuracy-lowering status on the party and uses an attack strong enough to [[spoiler: kill [[SquishyWizard Alicia]]]] in one hit, and right before [[spoiler:Dio himself,]] who hits harder than any enemy you've fought up to that point, can attack the whole party at once for high damage, and abuses [[spoiler:The World]] to get about two to four attacks every turn. [[spoiler:Vanilla Ice]] can use OneHitKill attacks, but his normal attacks don't hit nearly as hard, and he has an exploitable weakness to Berserk that can lock him into those normal attacks and nothing else.



* {{Woolseyism}}: In the original Japanese, Joey has a very distinct way of speaking. Since it didn't transistion over very well, the translator gave him a few new quirks such as his [[VerbalTic 'hyuk hyuk'.]]

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* {{Woolseyism}}: In the original Japanese, Joey has a very distinct way of speaking. Since it didn't transistion transition over very well, the translator gave him a few new quirks such as his [[VerbalTic 'hyuk hyuk'.]]

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: ''The entire soundtrack'' qualifies.

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** In general, any stand whose focus is on Long-range attacks (especially Ocean Blue and Mr. Big). For whatever reason, L range moves are nowhere near as penalized when used in M and S range than S range moves are when used in M and L. As a result, having an L stand is essentially one that is good at any range.
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** The Protagonist can cross this just by [[spoiler: siding with DIO. Then they cross it again each time they kill one of their allies or make one of them join DIO as well.

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** The Protagonist can cross this just by [[spoiler: siding with DIO. Then they cross it again each time they kill one of their allies or make one of them join DIO as well. ]]
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The protag explicitly states that they did it for the riches in Dio's mansion, nothing about terrorizing the world


** The Protagonist can cross this just by [[spoiler: siding with DIO. Then they cross it again each time they kill one of their allies or make one of them join DIO as well. And if you're going the Mad World route atop of that, the Protagonist basically skydives straight into the deepest, darkest depths of the MoralEventHorizon without a Parachute as they proceed to kill DIO and start presumably terrorizing the world with nobody there to stop them.]]

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** The Protagonist can cross this just by [[spoiler: siding with DIO. Then they cross it again each time they kill one of their allies or make one of them join DIO as well. And if you're going the Mad World route atop of that, the Protagonist basically skydives straight into the deepest, darkest depths of the MoralEventHorizon without a Parachute as they proceed to kill DIO and start presumably terrorizing the world with nobody there to stop them.]]
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** Miracles is an overwhelmingly weak stand, but it has one power that makes it invaluable in boss fights, especially harder ones. The "....." Skill it can gain inflicts no less than three statuses at once on ALL enemies: "No Senses", "Distract" and "Can't Find". As the statuses sound, they each lower the enemies accuracy. But they're all thrown at enemies at once with this skill, making it highly probable that your enemies will never hit you. Even if they resist one of the statuses, there's nothing keeping you from using this ability multiple times to ensure all of them hit. With this skill, you barely need to even worry about your defense with Miracles, because you can just dodge everything thrown at you! The best part is that it's gotten at level 25 and costs a measly 30 SP. The fact that Miracles has one of the highest SP stats make this barely a cost to what it can do!
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* AwesomeMusic: ''The entire soundtrack'' qualifies.

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** The Protagonist can cross this just by [[spoiler: siding with DIO. Then they cross it again each time they kill one of their allies or make one of them join DIO as well. And if you're going the Mad World route atop of that, the Protagonist basically skydives straight into the deepest, darkest depths of the MoralEventHorizon without a Parachute as they proceed to kill DIO and start presumably terrorizing the world with nobody there to stop them.]]

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* CompleteMonster: [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureDIO DIO]] proves to be just as vile as his canon counterpart. Stealing the body of his adoptive brother Jonathan after murdering him, DIO murders and drains the blood of countless innocents to heal himself. When DIO senses the presence of the Joestars, he infects Kakyoin and Polnareff with flesh buds to mind control them into being his minions, knowing that these flesh buds will eventually kill them. When the heroes attempt to take a plane to Egypt, DIO has Grey Fly bring down the passenger plane they're on. It’s also revealed that he had another one of his men stationed in Japan to destroy any plane the heroes would return in even if they abandon their quest. When his loyal right-hand woman Enya Geil is captured by the party, he hires Steely Dan to murder her to ensure that she doesn't divulge his powers. If you decide to watch over Kakyoin in the hospital after he gets injured by N’Doul, DIO will send Oingo and Boingo to set off explosives in the hospital. When pursuing Jotaro and company, DIO abducts Senator Phillips, forces him to drive at lethal speeds through pedestrians, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness and then kills him when he’s caught up with the heroes]]. In the Betrayal Ending, if the protagonist has enough [[RelationshipValues friendship points with Kakyoin and Polnareff]], DIO and the protagonist will manipulate them into betraying and killing the Joestars.

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* CompleteMonster: [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureDIO DIO]] proves to be just as vile as his canon counterpart. Stealing After murdering and stealing the body of his adoptive brother Jonathan after murdering him, Jonathan, DIO murders and drains the blood of countless innocents to heal himself. When DIO senses the presence of the Joestars, he infects Kakyoin and Polnareff with flesh buds to mind control them into being his minions, knowing that these flesh buds will eventually kill them. When the heroes attempt to take a plane to Egypt, DIO has Grey Fly bring down the passenger plane they're on. It’s It's also revealed that he had another one of his men stationed in Japan to destroy any plane the heroes would return in even if they abandon their quest. When his loyal right-hand woman Enya Geil is captured by the party, he hires Steely Dan to [[BadBoss murder her her]] to ensure that [[HeKnowsTooMuch she doesn't divulge his powers. powers]]. If you decide the PlayerCharacter decides to watch over Kakyoin in the hospital after he gets injured by N’Doul, N'Doul, DIO will send Oingo and Boingo to set off explosives in the hospital. When pursuing Jotaro and company, DIO abducts Senator Phillips, forces him to drive at lethal speeds through pedestrians, and then [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness and then kills him when he’s he's caught up with the heroes]]. In the Betrayal Ending, if the protagonist has enough [[RelationshipValues friendship points with Kakyoin and Polnareff]], DIO and the protagonist will manipulate them into betraying and killing the Joestars.
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* CompleteMonster: [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureDIO DIO]] proves to be just as vile as his canon counterpart. Stealing the body of his adoptive brother Jonathan after murdering him, DIO murders and drains the blood of countless innocents to heal himself. When DIO senses the presence of the Joestars, he infects Kakyoin and Polnareff with flesh buds to mind control them into being his minions, knowing that these flesh buds will eventually kill them. When the heroes attempt to take a plane to Egypt, DIO has Grey Fly bring down the passenger plane they're on. It’s also revealed that he had another one of his men stationed in Japan to destroy any plane the heroes would return in even if they abandon their quest. When his loyal right-hand woman Enya Geil is captured by the party, he hires Steely Dan to murder her to ensure that she doesn't divulge his powers. If you decide to watch over Kakyoin in the hospital after he gets injured by N’Doul, DIO will send Oingo and Boingo to set off explosives in the hospital. When pursuing Jotaro and company, DIO abducts Senator Phillips, forces him to drive at lethal speeds through pedestrians, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness and then kills him when he’s caught up with the heroes]]. In the Betrayal Ending, if the protagonist has enough [[RelationshipValues friendship points with Kakyoin and Polnareff]], DIO and the protagonist will manipulate them into betraying and killing the Joestars.
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** If the protagonist has the sickly trait and collapses while having one of the crusaders in the party, he will carry you back to the hotel room, stay by your side until you wake up, and allow you to rest for the day.
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*** The full name of this ending also qualifies as such a moment on its own:
--> '''-SUCCESSION END-'''
--> '''"Ode To Humanity"'''
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** [[spoiler:Star Platinum: The World. Sure, you're required to have 5 Badges of Honor upon reaching the Developer's Room(which isn't mentioning the Badges of Honor you'd need to start New Game+, at least at first) in order to unlock it, but once you do, Jotaro becomes a borderline Game Breaker instantly. He gains access to Time Stop, costing 200 SP but stopping damn near EVERYONE in the entire game for roughly 2-3 turns, allowing Jotaro free reign to act freely in that span of time. Normally, this wouldn't be so game breaking... Except for something the game never tells you; once you unlock Star Platinum: The World, Jotaro will strike TWICE when you use the normal Attack command, each hit having a chance to Critically Strike, as well as gain an increased chance of landing a Critical. So there's nothing preventing you from using Time Stop(chugging SP-restoring items when necessary) and simply using the normal Attack over and over, whittling enemies down with Criticals.]]

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** [[spoiler:Star Platinum: The World. Sure, you're required to have 5 Badges of Honor upon reaching the Developer's Room(which Room (which isn't mentioning the Badges of Honor you'd need to start New Game+, at least at first) in order to unlock it, but once you do, Jotaro becomes a borderline Game Breaker instantly. He gains access to Time Stop, costing 200 SP but stopping damn near EVERYONE in the entire game for roughly 2-3 turns, allowing Jotaro free reign to act freely in that span of time. Normally, this wouldn't be so game breaking... Except for something the game never tells you; once you unlock Star Platinum: The World, Jotaro will strike TWICE when you use the normal Attack command, each hit having a chance to Critically Strike, as well as gain an increased chance of landing a Critical. So there's nothing preventing you from using Time Stop(chugging SP-restoring items when necessary) and simply using the normal Attack over and over, whittling enemies down with Criticals.]]
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** Vins crosses it when she [[spoiler: kills Berlin and Alicia in the first Everybody Lives ending]].

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** Vins crosses somehow manages to cross it several times. She does it once when she [[spoiler: kills DJ Inc and Raul, leaving [[BrokenBird Alice]] without anyone to care for her. She does it again when she [[spoiler:kills Berlin and Alicia in the first Everybody Lives ending]].ending]]. She does it a third time by [[spoiler: killing the protagonist in advance in Josuke's playthrough, which leads Alicia, Berlin and Steel to use the corpse, their powers and a disc containing Crazy Diamond to make a clone of Josuke]] and a fourth time in [[spoiler: Josuke's playthrough, where if you get the bad ending by reading Path to Heaven, she'll lure him away to where she has Alicia and Berlin held captive then ''eaten alive'' by her zombies, gloating about how he's just made up of the dead Seventh Stand User, copied memories and soul and not even an actual person as he unravels from existence in despair.]]
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** Captain Tenille. His Stand ''seems'' challenging enough... until you learn it only has 300 HP, and if you leveled Jotaro up enough at the harbor (or successfully beat Deep Blue Moon within three turns for a sneak attack) the only thing you need to worry about is the ten turn limit. And there's even a way to bypass ''that''.

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** Captain Tenille. His Stand ''seems'' challenging enough... until you learn it only has 300 HP, and if you leveled Jotaro up enough at the harbor (or successfully beat Deep Dark Blue Moon within three turns for a sneak attack) the only thing you need to worry about is the ten turn limit. And there's even a way to bypass ''that''.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler: Then again, given what Vins does in game, which involves murdering people with glee, killing an entire organization of people unrelated to DIO for flimsy reasons, and in most of the endings being responsible for killing Alicia and Berlin or threatening to turn them into zombies (which in general is a FateWorseThanDeath in Jojo) if they don't comply to her. Not to mention in Josuke's ending how she happily kills them both and potentially feeds them ALIVE to her zombies, giving Josuke a BreakingSpeech the entire time. She could've easily done things in a more humane/efficient manner, but how she acts in game with needless deaths and cruelties can make some feel that it's hard to have any sympathy for her.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler: Then again, given what Vins does in game, which involves murdering people with glee, killing an entire organization of people unrelated to DIO for flimsy reasons, and in most of the endings being responsible for killing Alicia and Berlin or threatening to turn them and turning loads of people into zombies (which in general is on a scale that even Phantom Blood Dio would be amazed at (not to mention how Zombiedom tends to be a FateWorseThanDeath in Jojo) if they don't comply to her.Jojo). Not to mention in Josuke's ending how she happily kills them both and potentially feeds them ALIVE to her zombies, giving Josuke a BreakingSpeech the entire time. She could've easily done things in a more humane/efficient manner, but how she acts in game with game, causing needless deaths and cruelties and doing it near gleefully, can make some feel that it's hard to have any sympathy for her.]]

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* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: [[spoiler: Vins comes across like this as well as something of a JerkassWoobie. Her child was a stillborn and in her despair, she stole another family's baby. Then when her son's stopped a bugaler from stealing some woman's bag, things started going downhill for her as her son got into a relationship wit his long-lost sister, was nearly killed by white supremeists because she married an African American, her son was taken away and his memories stolen and then she lost her chance to save her son once the player begins the game. She's not totally innocent at all (she stole a child and by doing so, caused all of Part 6 to happen, not to mention what she did to people in order to get her zombies) but it's hard to not feel a little sorry for her. ]]

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* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: [[spoiler: Vins comes across like this as well as something of a JerkassWoobie. Her child was a stillborn and in her despair, she stole another family's baby. Then when her son's stopped a bugaler burglar from stealing some woman's bag, things started going downhill for her as her son got into a relationship wit his long-lost sister, was nearly killed by white supremeists supremacists because she married an African American, her son was taken away and his memories stolen and then she lost her chance to save her son once the player begins the game. She's not totally innocent at all (she stole a child and by doing so, caused all of Part 6 to happen, not to mention what she did to people in order to get her zombies) but it's hard to not feel a little sorry for her. ]]
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler: Then again, given what Vins does in game, which involves murdering people with glee, killing an entire organization of people unrelated to DIO for flimsy reasons, and in most of the endings being responsible for killing Alicia and Berlin or threatening to turn them into zombies (which in general is a FateWorseThanDeath in Jojo) if they don't comply to her. Not to mention in Josuke's ending how she happily kills them both and potentially feeds them ALIVE to her zombies, giving Josuke a BreakingSpeech the entire time. She could've easily done things in a more humane/efficient manner, but how she acts in game with needless deaths and cruelties can make some feel that it's hard to have any sympathy for her.
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* {{Woolseyism}}: In the original Japanese, Joey has a very distinct way of speaking. Since it didn't transistion over very well, the translator gave him a few new quirks such as his [[VerbalTic 'hyuk hyuk'.]]

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* {{Woolseyism}}: In the original Japanese, Joey has a very distinct way of speaking. Since it didn't transistion over very well, the translator gave him a few new quirks such as his [[VerbalTic 'hyuk hyuk'.]]
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: [[spoiler: Vins comes across like this as well as something of a JerkassWoobie. Her child was a stillborn and in her despair, she stole another family's baby. Then when her son's stopped a bugaler from stealing some woman's bag, things started going downhill for her as her son got into a relationship wit his long-lost sister, was nearly killed by white supremeists because she married an African American, her son was taken away and his memories stolen and then she lost her chance to save her son once the player begins the game. She's not totally innocent at all (she stole a child and by doing so, caused all of Part 6 to happen, not to mention what she did to people in order to get her zombies) but it's hard to not feel a little sorry for her.
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* FridgeBrilliance: The Jockstrap equipment is male-exclusive, and it protects against [=OHKO=]s... yes, a GroinAttack is a OneHitKill!
** The She-Zombies found from Aswan onwards are an oddity when it comes to Jojo Zombies. They can walk in sunlight under which most zombies crumble beneath and most zombie encounters are within shaded areas (they literally never walk past the shade). So how do they bear the sunlight? The answer is actually extremely simple: they're all wearing niqabs and abayas, a type of islamic feminine clothing that covers the female's entire face save the eyes (niqab) and that completely covers the female's figure from head to toe (abaya) respectively. Because they're completely covered from sunlight, this is what allows them to move in direct daylight! Not to mention it's good as a surprise attack in universe, as Joseph being the only one who's dealt with Zombies and Vampires before would only expect them to attack within shade or during the night.
* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: The Dream World's Shadowy Figure. While it may seem like a simple easter egg towards Shin Megami Tensei, let's also think about what possible connotations it has with works by Carl Jung, and another popular series made by Atlus known as Persona. Carl Jung had theorized the idea that parts of the personality that one rejects or is ignorant of makes up the Shadow, and that it can appear within dreams or visions in various forms. In Persona, the Shadows are played out as such, and are often absolutely negative and monstrous parts of a person's personality. Given that the player character, are the only one within the Dream World...who's to say that Shadow isn't the PC's? Also taking into consideration that it has the very same eyes that was of "someone born of pure evil"...what does this say about the PC and their capacity for evil?]]
** And furthermore, continuing from the above: [[spoiler: consider how in Carl's work, how Shadows are a part of ones subconscious...and in this game, we have Miracles whose entire schtick is controlling just that! Imagine how much damage Miracles could actually cause with just enough knowledge in freudian/jungian psychology or knowledge of the autonomous nervous system. Heck, just the idea of Miracles power used right could make it the most dangerous stand out there!]]
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** All party members have a cheap and somewhat reliable revive command called Cardiac Massage in reference to when Jotaro restarted his and later Joseph's hearts by gripping it and squeezing it so that their blood started flowing again. This quickly becomes FridgeLogic when even non-humanoid Stands (Such as Mr. Big) and otherwise normal humans (such as Speedwagon) have this command too.
** Pretty much all stands have a special power of some kind, so some may find it odd that Red Garland's "power" is to punch ''really'' hard. [[SubvertedTrope However]], one person put forward the theory that Red Garland doesn't just have the ability to punch physically, but the ability to punch their ''mind/soul''. This is supported by the fact that Red Garland's attacks are able to inflict a multitude of status effects on the opponent just by "punching them". It also helps that Red Garland's description states "It's punches can knock people silly".
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** The credits for the Dark Side Ending. [[spoiler: The music stops right after the battle and never comes back, the silence only broken when the credits show up... By the sound of babies crying, men and women screaming, and the blowing wind of a wasteland presumably created by the 7th Stand User himself in his rule over the world.]] Which then leads to...

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** The credits for the Dark Side Ending. [[spoiler: The music stops right after the battle and never comes back, the silence only broken when the credits show up... By the sound of babies crying, men and women screaming, the 7th Stand User's evil laughter and the blowing wind of a wasteland presumably created by the 7th Stand User himself in his rule over the world.]] Which then leads to...
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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: The Dream World's Shadowy Figure. While it may seem like a simple easter egg towards Shin Megami Tensei, let's also think about what possible connotations it has with works by Carl Jung, and another popular series made by Atlus known as Persona. Carl Jung had theorized the idea that parts of the personality that one rejects or is ignorant of makes up the Shadow, and that it can appear within dreams or visions in various forms. In Persona, the Shadows are played out as such, and are often absolutely negative and monstrous parts of a person's personality. Given that the player character, are the only one within the Dream World...who's to say that Shadow isn't the PC's? Also taking into consideration that it has the very same eyes that was of "someone born of pure evil"[[WildMassGuessing...what does this say about the PC]]?]]

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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: The Dream World's Shadowy Figure. While it may seem like a simple easter egg towards Shin Megami Tensei, let's also think about what possible connotations it has with works by Carl Jung, and another popular series made by Atlus known as Persona. Carl Jung had theorized the idea that parts of the personality that one rejects or is ignorant of makes up the Shadow, and that it can appear within dreams or visions in various forms. In Persona, the Shadows are played out as such, and are often absolutely negative and monstrous parts of a person's personality. Given that the player character, are the only one within the Dream World...who's to say that Shadow isn't the PC's? Also taking into consideration that it has the very same eyes that was of "someone born of pure evil"[[WildMassGuessing...evil"...what does this say about the PC]]?]]PC and their capacity for evil?]]
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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: The Dream World's Shadowy Figure. While it may seem like a simple easter egg towards Shin Megami Tensei, let's also think about what possible connotations it has with works by Carl Jung, and another popular series made by Atlus known as Persona. Carl Jung had theorized the idea that parts of the personality that one rejects or is ignorant of makes up the Shadow, and that it can appear within dreams or visions in various forms. In Persona, the Shadows are played out as such, and are often absolutely negative and monstrous parts of a person's personality. Given that the player character, are the only one within the Dream World...who's to say that Shadow isn't the PC's? Also taking into consideration that it has the very same eyes that was of "someone born of pure evil"[[WildMassGuessing...what does this say about the PC]]? ]]

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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: The Dream World's Shadowy Figure. While it may seem like a simple easter egg towards Shin Megami Tensei, let's also think about what possible connotations it has with works by Carl Jung, and another popular series made by Atlus known as Persona. Carl Jung had theorized the idea that parts of the personality that one rejects or is ignorant of makes up the Shadow, and that it can appear within dreams or visions in various forms. In Persona, the Shadows are played out as such, and are often absolutely negative and monstrous parts of a person's personality. Given that the player character, are the only one within the Dream World...who's to say that Shadow isn't the PC's? Also taking into consideration that it has the very same eyes that was of "someone born of pure evil"[[WildMassGuessing...what does this say about the PC]]? ]]PC]]?]]
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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: The Dream World's Shadowy Figure. While it may seem like a simple easter egg towards Shin Megami Tensei, let's also think about what possible connotations it has with works by Carl Jung, and another popular series made by Atlus known as Persona. Carl Jung had theorized the idea that parts of the personality that one rejects or is ignorant of makes up the Shadow, and that it can appear within dreams or visions in various forms. In Persona, the Shadows are played out as such, and are often absolutely negative and monstrous parts of a person's personality. Given that the player character, are the only one within the Dream World...who's to say that Shadow isn't the PC's? Also taking into consideration that it has the very same eyes that was of "someone born of pure evil"[WildMassGuessing...what does this say about the PC?] ]]

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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: The Dream World's Shadowy Figure. While it may seem like a simple easter egg towards Shin Megami Tensei, let's also think about what possible connotations it has with works by Carl Jung, and another popular series made by Atlus known as Persona. Carl Jung had theorized the idea that parts of the personality that one rejects or is ignorant of makes up the Shadow, and that it can appear within dreams or visions in various forms. In Persona, the Shadows are played out as such, and are often absolutely negative and monstrous parts of a person's personality. Given that the player character, are the only one within the Dream World...who's to say that Shadow isn't the PC's? Also taking into consideration that it has the very same eyes that was of "someone born of pure evil"[WildMassGuessing...evil"[[WildMassGuessing...what does this say about the PC?] PC]]? ]]
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** The ultimate player punch has to be the Sacrifice Ending. [[spoiler: It's when, after being called up by Berlin and Alicia, you decide to go after the rest of DIO's minions, the man himself and finally Vins. Sadly, due to your character doing this all alone, they succumb to their wounds and jump off the bridge they were on in hopes that DIO's Diary would be lost with them. Sadly, when the party wakes up and recieves the news, each one of them is 'devestated' or try to come up with an explanation of how it's not your body that was found. The two worst things that fully punch you in the guts on this is the two factors that A: You need 50 total FP with the party (as in each one of them needs enough time to like you and do a combo attack with you, and B: [[SenselessSacrifice Your actions are completely for naught because they get the book anyways, which is what Steel, Berlin and Alicia were trying to prevent]].]]
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** Bosses like [[spoiler: DIO, Shadow DIO, Vins and Wammu can be cakewalks if you know Hamon skills or have Joseph as your partner.]]

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