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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The whole plot point about [[spoiler: Josh being suspected of Elise's murder]] seems like it is going to play a major role at the beginning of the second movie, only to be quickly dropped and never brought up again.
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** The scathing, dissonant music that plays over the opening title.
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** Despite some critiques due to TooDumbToLive moments, Josh as well. For this troper, he's a {{Deconstruction}} of the typical horror movie father: He's shown as very worried about what's wrong with his son, and when it comes to the supernatural aspects, he obviously dismisses them. But when he realizes they are true, he's willing to go with it, mainly because he wants to see his son again. The revelation that [[spoiler: Parker Cane was constantly following him all his life, and then trapping him in the Further]] makes him more of a Woobie.
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* Complete Monster: From the sequel: The Woman In White, AKA Michelle Crane, is a vicious ghost. When she was mortal, Crane [[AbusiveParents tormented her young son Parker]] after Parker's father left them. She'd force Parker into girls' clothing and to believe himself as a little girl. When Parker grew up, she forced him to become a twisted SerialKiller who would be dubbed The Bride In Black. Parker, at her urging, would claim fifteen victims before her death, whereupon he committed suicide. When her son possessed the hero Josh, Michelle tried to get him to murder Josh's entire family, Josh's children included.

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* Complete Monster: CompleteMonster: From the sequel: The Woman In White, AKA Michelle Crane, is a vicious ghost. When she was mortal, Crane [[AbusiveParents tormented her young son Parker]] after Parker's father left them. She'd force Parker into girls' clothing and to believe himself as a little girl. When Parker grew up, she forced him to become a twisted SerialKiller who would be dubbed The Bride In Black. Parker, at her urging, would claim fifteen victims before her death, whereupon he committed suicide. When her son possessed the hero Josh, Michelle tried to get him to murder Josh's entire family, Josh's children included.
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*Complete Monster: From the sequel: The Woman In White, AKA Michelle Crane, is a vicious ghost. When she was mortal, Crane [[AbusiveParents tormented her young son Parker]] after Parker's father left them. She'd force Parker into girls' clothing and to believe himself as a little girl. When Parker grew up, she forced him to become a twisted SerialKiller who would be dubbed The Bride In Black. Parker, at her urging, would claim fifteen victims before her death, whereupon he committed suicide. When her son possessed the hero Josh, Michelle tried to get him to murder Josh's entire family, Josh's children included.
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* NothingIsScarier: Some fans agreed the Dancing Boy scene is actually the scariest part. Why? 1) It happened during the sunny day instead of darky night; 2) It's just unnerving if you imagine a little kid appears in your house out of nowhere and wandering your house mischievously; 3) He even hides in the comatose Dalton's room's closet! Imagine if your child is in the same room with an entity from another world. Doubles with AdultFear, certainly; 4) For some people, a ghost in little kid's form can be scarier than ghost in adult form. Although, yes I know, the Dancing Boy isn't actually malicious entity in the film; 5) Well, just see the FreezeFrameBonus in main entry. Unless your eyes are sharp enough, you probably won't even realize he was there in the first place; 6) This is also the first scene which made the song "Tiptoe through the Tulips" become scary in the film. Later when this song is played again, you know [[OhCrap something bad is going to happen]].
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** CriticalDissonance: However, critics seem to think the opposite, judging by the fact that the film sports a 35% on Rotten Tomatoes in comparison to IMDB's 7.1 and Cinemascore's B+.

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** CriticalDissonance: However, critics seem to think the opposite, judging by the fact that the film sports a 35% on Rotten Tomatoes in comparison to IMDB's 7.1 and Cinemascore's B+.B+.
* TheWoobie: Dalton in the first film.
** [[spoiler: Parker Crane as a child especially when you see how his mother treated him. Becomes WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds as he grows old and post-death.]]
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** The demon himself can be this. Quoting Cinema Sins: "Why is [[StarWars Darth Maul]] in this movie?"

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** The demon himself can be this. Quoting Cinema Sins: "Why is [[StarWars Darth Maul]] in this movie?"movie?" Also, [[AllThereInTheManual in the credits]], he even goes by the name of "Lipstick Demon".
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** The demon himself can be this. Quoting Cinema Sins: "Why is [[StarWars Darth Maul]] in this movie?"
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* HoYay: Tucker and Specs.
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** CriticalDissonance: However, critics seem to think the opposite, judging by the fact that the film sports a 35% on Rotten Tomatoes in comparison to IMDB's 7.1.

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** CriticalDissonance: However, critics seem to think the opposite, judging by the fact that the film sports a 35% on Rotten Tomatoes in comparison to IMDB's 7.1.1 and Cinemascore's B+.
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: There's still some cheese, sure, but at the very least, ''Chapter 2'' does a good job of avoiding the first film's blunderous {{Narm}}.

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: There's still some cheese, sure, but at the very least, ''Chapter 2'' does a good job of avoiding the first film's blunderous {{Narm}}.{{Narm}}.
** CriticalDissonance: However, critics seem to think the opposite, judging by the fact that the film sports a 35% on Rotten Tomatoes in comparison to IMDB's 7.1.
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* NothingIsScarier: Some fans agreed the Dancing Boy scene is actually the scariest part. Why? 1) It happened during the sunny day instead of darky night; 2) It's just unnerving if you imagine a little kid appears in your house out of nowhere and wandering your house mischievously; 3) He even hides in the comatose Dalton's room's closet! Imagine if your child is in the same room with an entity from another world. Doubles with AdultFear, certainly; 4) For some people, a ghost in little kid's form can be scarier than ghost in adult form. Although, yes I know, the Dancing Boy isn't actually malicious entity in the film; 5) Well, just see the FreezeFrameBonus in main entry. Unless your eyes are sharp enough, you probably won't even realize he was there in the first place; 6) This is also basically what made the song "Tiptoe through the Tulips" become scary in the film.

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* NothingIsScarier: Some fans agreed the Dancing Boy scene is actually the scariest part. Why? 1) It happened during the sunny day instead of darky night; 2) It's just unnerving if you imagine a little kid appears in your house out of nowhere and wandering your house mischievously; 3) He even hides in the comatose Dalton's room's closet! Imagine if your child is in the same room with an entity from another world. Doubles with AdultFear, certainly; 4) For some people, a ghost in little kid's form can be scarier than ghost in adult form. Although, yes I know, the Dancing Boy isn't actually malicious entity in the film; 5) Well, just see the FreezeFrameBonus in main entry. Unless your eyes are sharp enough, you probably won't even realize he was there in the first place; 6) This is also basically what the first scene which made the song "Tiptoe through the Tulips" become scary in the film.film. Later when this song is played again, you know [[OhCrap something bad is going to happen]].
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* NothingIsScarier: Some fans agreed the Dancing Boy scene is actually the scariest part. Why? 1) It happened during the sunny day instead of darky night; 2) It's just unnerving if you imagine a little kid appears in your house out of nowhere and wandering your house mischievously; 3) He even hides in the comatose Dalton's room's closet! Imagine if your child is in the same room with an entity from another world. Doubles with AdultFear, certainly; 4) For some people, a ghost in little kid's form can be scarier than ghost in adult form. Although, yes I know, the Dancing Boy isn't actually malicious entity in the film.

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* NothingIsScarier: Some fans agreed the Dancing Boy scene is actually the scariest part. Why? 1) It happened during the sunny day instead of darky night; 2) It's just unnerving if you imagine a little kid appears in your house out of nowhere and wandering your house mischievously; 3) He even hides in the comatose Dalton's room's closet! Imagine if your child is in the same room with an entity from another world. Doubles with AdultFear, certainly; 4) For some people, a ghost in little kid's form can be scarier than ghost in adult form. Although, yes I know, the Dancing Boy isn't actually malicious entity in the film; 5) Well, just see the FreezeFrameBonus in main entry. Unless your eyes are sharp enough, you probably won't even realize he was there in the first place; 6) This is also basically what made the song "Tiptoe through the Tulips" become scary in the film.
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: There's still some cheese, sure, but at the very least, ''Chapter 2'' does a good job of avoiding first film's blunderous {{Narm}}.

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: There's still some cheese, sure, but at the very least, ''Chapter 2'' does a good job of avoiding the first film's blunderous {{Narm}}.
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* NothingIsScarier: Some fans agreed the Dancing Boy scene is actually the scariest part. Why? 1) It happened during the sunny day instead of darky night; 2) It's just unnerving if you imagine a little kid appears in your house out of nowhere and wandering your house mischievously; 3) He even hides in the comatose Dalton's room's closet! Imagine if your child is in the same room with an entity from another world. Doubles with AdultFear, certainly; 4) For some people, a ghost in little kid's form can be scarier than ghost in adult form. Although, yes I know, the Dancing Boy isn't actually malicious entity in the film.

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* NothingIsScarier: Some fans agreed the Dancing Boy scene is actually the scariest part. Why? 1) It happened during the sunny day instead of darky night; 2) It's just unnerving if you imagine a little kid appears in your house out of nowhere and wandering your house mischievously; 3) He even hides in the comatose Dalton's room's closet! Imagine if your child is in the same room with an entity from another world. Doubles with AdultFear, certainly; 4) For some people, a ghost in little kid's form can be scarier than ghost in adult form. Although, yes I know, the Dancing Boy isn't actually malicious entity in the film.film.
* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: There's still some cheese, sure, but at the very least, ''Chapter 2'' does a good job of avoiding first film's blunderous {{Narm}}.
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** One of the film's big scary moments is supposed to be when Josh discovers Dalton imprisioned in the Further with the demon, but since the demon has a penchant for listening to Tiny Tim, his infernal lair looks like the set of a Meatloaf video, and he's first properly shown cheerfully sharpening his claws while listening to his favourite tune, it can be hard to take him as seriously after that.

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** One of the film's big scary moments is supposed to be when Josh discovers Dalton imprisioned in the Further with the demon, but since the demon has a penchant for listening to Tiny Tim, his infernal lair looks like the set of a Meatloaf video, and he's first properly shown cheerfully sharpening his claws while listening to his favourite tune, it can be hard to take him as seriously after that.that.
* NothingIsScarier: Some fans agreed the Dancing Boy scene is actually the scariest part. Why? 1) It happened during the sunny day instead of darky night; 2) It's just unnerving if you imagine a little kid appears in your house out of nowhere and wandering your house mischievously; 3) He even hides in the comatose Dalton's room's closet! Imagine if your child is in the same room with an entity from another world. Doubles with AdultFear, certainly; 4) For some people, a ghost in little kid's form can be scarier than ghost in adult form. Although, yes I know, the Dancing Boy isn't actually malicious entity in the film.
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** One of the film's big scary moments is supposed to be when Josh discovers Dalton imprisioned in the Further with the demon, but since the demon has a penchant for listening to Tiny Tim, his infernal lair looks like the set of a Meatloaf video, and he's first properly shown cheerfully sharpening his claws while listening to his favourite tune, it can be hard to take him as seriously after that.
* ScareChord: Feels done to the point of overdone at times.
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** One of the film's big scary moments is supposed to be when Josh discovers Dalton imprisioned in the Further with the demon, but since the demon has a penchant for listening to Tiny Tim, his infernal lair looks like the set of a Meatloaf video, and he's first properly shown cheerfully sharpening his claws while listening to his favourite tune, it can be hard to take him as seriously after that.
* ScareChord: Feels done to the point of overdone at times.
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** One of the film's big scary moments is supposed to be when Josh discovers Dalton imprisioned in the Further with the demon, but since the demon has a penchant for listening to Tiny Tim, his infernal lair looks like the set of a Meatloaf video, and he's first properly shown cheerfully sharpening his claws while listening to his favourite tune, it can be hard to take him as seriously after that.

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* NightmareFuel: [[FanNickname Fireface]] sharpening his claws.
** Both scenes that use aforementioned "Tiptoe through the Tulips".
** The Red Faced Demon.
** The old lady is ''creepy.''
** The Smiling Family, holy hell.
* ScareChord: Feels done to the point of overdone at times.

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* NightmareFuel: [[FanNickname Fireface]] sharpening his claws.
** Both scenes that use aforementioned "Tiptoe through the Tulips".
** The Red Faced Demon.
** The old lady is ''creepy.''
** The Smiling Family, holy hell.
* ScareChord: Feels done to the point of overdone at times.times.
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** The Red Faced Demon. 'Nough said.
** The old lady is freaking ''creepy.''

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** The Red Faced Demon. 'Nough said.
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** The old lady is freaking ''creepy.''

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** The BigBad looks like [[StarWars Darth Maul]] in a bad toupée.



** When Josh [[spoiler: defeats the ghost before entering the red door]], it looks like he did a [[StreetFighter Hadouken]]..
** A lot of people thought the gas mask was funny rather than eerie, same with the little dancing kid
** Tiptoe Through the Tulips made some scenes more funny than scary.
** The smiling family sequence cannot be taken seriously.
** The entire scene with Fireface sharpening his claws while surrounded by children's toys could be considered Nightmare Fuel or Really Heavy Narm.
** This troper found the whole movie far less scary once they started explaining what was going on. And they never should have revealed the demon like that.
** The screaming violins whenever the title card is shown. Insidious implies subtlety - loud screeching noises do not.

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** When Josh [[spoiler: defeats the ghost before entering the red door]], it looks like he did a [[StreetFighter Hadouken]]..
** A lot of people thought the gas mask was funny rather than eerie, same with the little dancing kid
** Tiptoe Through the Tulips made some scenes more funny than scary.
** The smiling family sequence cannot be taken seriously.
** The entire scene with Fireface sharpening his claws while surrounded by children's toys could be considered Nightmare Fuel or Really Heavy Narm.
** This troper found the whole movie far less scary once they started explaining what was going on. And they never should have revealed the demon like that.
** The screaming violins whenever the title card is shown. Insidious implies subtlety - loud screeching noises do not.
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ScareChord: Feels done to the point of overdone at times.

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* ScareChord: Feels done to the point of overdone at times.
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** The Smiling Family, holy hell.

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** The Smiling Family, holy hell.hell.
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** This troper found the whole movie far less scary once they started explaining what was going on. And they never should have revealed the demon like that.
** The screaming violins whenever the title card is shown. Insidious implies subtlety - loud screeching noises do not.

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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: [[FanNickname Fireface]] sharpening his claws.
** Both scenes that use aforementioned "Tiptoe through the Tulips".
** The Red Faced Demon. 'Nough said.
** The old lady is freaking ''creepy.''
** The Smiling Family, holy hell.



** The entire scene with Fireface sharpening his claws while surrounded by children's toys could be considered Nightmare Fuel or Really Heavy Narm.

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** The entire scene with Fireface sharpening his claws while surrounded by children's toys could be considered Nightmare Fuel or Really Heavy Narm.Narm.
* NightmareFuel: [[FanNickname Fireface]] sharpening his claws.
** Both scenes that use aforementioned "Tiptoe through the Tulips".
** The Red Faced Demon. 'Nough said.
** The old lady is freaking ''creepy.''
** The Smiling Family, holy hell.
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**The Smiling Family, holy hell.



** The smiling family sequence cannot be taken seriously.

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** The smiling family sequence cannot be taken seriously.seriously.
**The entire scene with Fireface sharpening his claws while surrounded by children's toys could be considered Nightmare Fuel or Really Heavy Narm.
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** Tiptoe Through the Tulips made some scenes more funny than scary.

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** Tiptoe Through the Tulips made some scenes more funny than scary.scary.
** The smiling family sequence cannot be taken seriously.
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** Tiptoe Through the Tulips made some scenes more funny than scary.
* YourMileageMayVary: The red-faced demon may be the least scary thing in [[spoiler:The Further.]]

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** Tiptoe Through the Tulips made some scenes more funny than scary.
* YourMileageMayVary: The red-faced demon may be the least scary thing in [[spoiler:The Further.]]
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** The devil looks like [[StarWars Darth Maul]] in a bad toupée.

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** The devil BigBad looks like [[StarWars Darth Maul]] in a bad toupée.

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