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* NauseaFuel: Literally ''everything'' Hugo does to the boys.
** Etienne's execution, features letters carved into his chest, his half-starved, filthy, beaten body, trumpet noises coming ''out of his mouth'', white, blank eyes, and the hanging of his body on a stake.

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* NauseaFuel: Literally ''everything'' Hugo does to the boys.
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Etienne's execution, features letters carved into his chest, his half-starved, filthy, beaten body, trumpet noises coming ''out of his mouth'', white, blank eyes, and the hanging of his body on a stake.stake.
%%** Literally ''everything'' Hugo does to the boys.

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* AcceptableReligiousTargets: Catholics aren't exactly portrayed in a positive light, especially the ones most involved the Church.

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** Is Micheal a reprehensible brat who deserved his eventual fate or a misled boy who'd been practically brainwashed into what he did? And was he ''really'' a bit dopey and strange, or was it entirely faked?

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** Is Micheal Michael a reprehensible brat who deserved his eventual fate or a misled boy who'd been practically brainwashed into what he did? And was he ''really'' a bit dopey and strange, or was it entirely faked?



* IdiotPlot: The entire premise of sending children out on The Crusades was a terrible idea from the start. Every bad thing that happens in the story could have been averted by some decent adult supervision, or better yet, ''not sending literal children to war''.

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* AcceptableReligiousTargets: Catholics aren't exactly portrayed in a positive light, especially the ones most involved the the Church.



** Is Christian wanting to be a woman merely him trying to justify his feelings for Etienne, or does he actually ''want'' to be female? Is he nothing more than an unhinged and lust crazed teen, or does he really have feelings for Etienne... [[HormoneAddledTeenager or maybe it's a mix of both]]?

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** Is Christian wanting to be a woman merely him trying to justify his feelings for Etienne, or does he actually ''want'' to be female? Is he nothing more than an unhinged and lust crazed lust-crazed teen, or does he really have feelings for Etienne... [[HormoneAddledTeenager or maybe it's a mix of both]]?



** Is Henri a weak, useless burden to the Crusade, or a brave young man who conquered his fears for the cause? And was his killing of mark nothing more than an excuse for gore and angst, or a moment of showing just how naive the boys really are?
** Is Micheal a reprehensible brat who deserved his eventual fate, or a misled boy who'd been practically brainwashed into what he did? And was he ''really'' a bit dopey and strange, or was it entirely faked?
* AntiClimaxBoss: Hugo is remarkably easy to beat, and puts up ''much'' less of a fights than one would expect from a fully grown knight. The only even slightly hard part was keeping him from escaping back into his castle. After that, it was as easy as Nicolas chopping off his head. Rather justified when Hugo reveals he's never actually been in a real fight.

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** Is Henri a weak, useless burden to the Crusade, Crusade; or a brave young man who conquered his fears for the cause? And was his killing of mark nothing more than an excuse for gore and angst, or a moment of showing just how naive the boys really are?
** Is Micheal a reprehensible brat who deserved his eventual fate, fate or a misled boy who'd been practically brainwashed into what he did? And was he ''really'' a bit dopey and strange, or was it entirely faked?
* AntiClimaxBoss: Hugo is remarkably easy to beat, and puts up ''much'' less of a fights fight than one would expect from a fully grown knight. The only even slightly hard part was keeping him from escaping back into his castle. After that, it was as easy as Nicolas chopping off his head. Rather justified when Hugo reveals he's never actually been in a real fight.



* CreepyCute: Michael is eerily beautiful, with strange, almost alien like features, and has one of the highest kill counts in the story, He still manages to be an ''adorable'' kid.

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* CreepyCute: Michael is eerily beautiful, with strange, almost alien like alien-like features, and has one of the highest kill counts in the story, He still manages to be an ''adorable'' kid.



* MoralEventHorizon: Hugo's [[spoiler: rape]] of a select few member's of Etienne's crusade is this. He'd been nasty before, but this is the moment that really proves him to be abhorrent.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Hugo's [[spoiler: rape]] of a select few member's members of Etienne's crusade is this. He'd been nasty before, but this is the moment that really proves him to be abhorrent.



** Etienne's execution, which features letters carved into his chest, his half starved, filthy, beaten body, trumpet noises coming ''out of his mouth'', white, blank eyes, and the hanging of his body on a stake.

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** Etienne's execution, which features letters carved into his chest, his half starved, half-starved, filthy, beaten body, trumpet noises coming ''out of his mouth'', white, blank eyes, and the hanging of his body on a stake.



** Guy and Nicolas, the two hot headed, rough, extremely loyal to Etienne ones.

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** Guy and Nicolas, the two hot headed, hot-headed, rough, extremely loyal to Etienne ones.



* TooCoolToLive: Guy was a bandit boy skilled in combat, deathly loyal to Etienne, and with a [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold soft side]] that made him beyond lovable. He did make it to the end of the main story, but was killed shortly after in what was a rather half-assed plot point.

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* TooCoolToLive: Guy was a bandit boy skilled in combat, deathly loyal to Etienne, and with a [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold soft side]] that made him beyond lovable. He did make it to the end of the main story, story but was killed shortly after in what was a rather half-assed plot point.



** Henri is a sweet, gentle, crybaby of a boy who goes through one of the harshest BreakTheCutie lines possible. He goes from a precious 10 year old, to a broken, hopeless child willing to kill himself on a ''tree branch'' just to put an end to his own misery.
** Remy is a 12 year old boy with leprosy. This would be sympathetic enough on its own, but he's also sweet, gentle, and completely optimistic despite his suffering. He's slowly broken by his fading health, and eventually dies while deeming himself so ugly and broken that even God wouldn't want him.

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** Henri is a sweet, gentle, crybaby of a boy who goes through one of the harshest BreakTheCutie lines possible. He goes from a precious 10 year old, 10-year-old to a broken, hopeless child willing to kill himself on a ''tree branch'' just to put an end to his own misery.
** Remy is a 12 year old 12-year-old boy with leprosy. This would be sympathetic enough on its own, but he's also sweet, gentle, and completely optimistic despite his suffering. He's His fading health slowly broken by his fading health, breaks him and HE eventually dies while deeming himself so ugly and broken that even God wouldn't want him.him.

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* CompleteMonster: Sir Hugo at first seems an affable member of The Knights Templar, eager to help the Children's Crusade in their goal. It is revealed Hugo is paying townspeople to fake miracles to enhance the Crusade's reputation and earn more money for himself. When the kids cut ties with him, Hugo has bandits attack them for the money, killing multiple children. Hugo then convinces three of the boys to join him, raping them as an "initiation" and having them sway others to his side. When one boy resists Hugo's attempted rape, Hugo beats him and has him thrown out of the castle where the boy commits suicide in shame. Hugo then has his initial three recruits fight to the death for his entertainment in a "rite of courage" before he is ambushed by the young Crusaders Nicolas and Guy, having the audacity to plead for his life by claiming they were nothing before him just before Nicolas beheads him.

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* CompleteMonster: CompleteMonster: Sir Hugo at first seems an affable member of The Knights Templar, UsefulNotes/TheKnightsTemplar, eager to help the Children's Crusade in their goal. It is revealed Hugo is paying townspeople to fake miracles to enhance the Crusade's reputation and earn more money for himself. When the kids cut ties with him, Hugo has bandits attack them for the money, [[WouldHurtAChild killing multiple children.children]]. Hugo then convinces three of the boys to join him, raping them as an "initiation" and having them sway others to his side. When one boy resists Hugo's attempted rape, Hugo beats him and has him thrown out of the castle where the boy commits suicide in shame. Hugo then has his initial three recruits fight to the death for his entertainment in a "rite of courage" before he is ambushed by the young Crusaders Nicolas and Guy, having the audacity to plead for his life by claiming they were nothing before him just before Nicolas [[spoiler:Nicolas beheads him. him]].
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** Is Etienne a poorly written PuritySue with AssPull powers and a lack of any real development, or a genuinely sweet, good young man who just so happens to have God wanting him alive?

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** Is Etienne a poorly written PuritySue character with AssPull powers and a lack of any real development, or a genuinely sweet, good young man who just so happens to have God wanting him alive?
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** Is Christian wanting to be a woman merely him trying to justify his feelings for Etienne, or does he actually ''want'' to be female? And is he nothing more than an unhinged, lust crazed teen, or does he really have feelings for Etienne?

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** Is Christian wanting to be a woman merely him trying to justify his feelings for Etienne, or does he actually ''want'' to be female? And is Is he nothing more than an unhinged, unhinged and lust crazed teen, or does he really have feelings for Etienne?Etienne... [[HormoneAddledTeenager or maybe it's a mix of both]]?
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* TooCoolToLive: Guy was a bandit boy skilled in combat, deathly loyal to Etienne, and with a [[soft side JerkWithAHeartOfGold]] that made him beyond lovable. He did make it to the end of the main story, but was killed shortly after in what was a rather half-assed plot point.

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* TooCoolToLive: Guy was a bandit boy skilled in combat, deathly loyal to Etienne, and with a [[soft side JerkWithAHeartOfGold]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold soft side]] that made him beyond lovable. He did make it to the end of the main story, but was killed shortly after in what was a rather half-assed plot point.
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* IronWoobie: Etienne can be considered this. Despite going through absolutely 'horrible'' things, including multiple botched executions, he remains a determined pillar of morality and hope. Not even ''actual death'' manages to stop him from going on to do great things.

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* IronWoobie: Etienne can be considered this. Despite going through absolutely 'horrible'' horrible things, including multiple botched executions, he remains a determined pillar of morality and hope. Not even ''actual death'' manages to stop him from going on to do great things.
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* IdiotPlot: The entire premise of sending children out on The Crusades was a terrible idea from the start. Every bad thing that happens in the story could have been averted by some decent adult supervision, or better yet, ''not sending literal children to war'.

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* IdiotPlot: The entire premise of sending children out on The Crusades was a terrible idea from the start. Every bad thing that happens in the story could have been averted by some decent adult supervision, or better yet, ''not sending literal children to war'.war''.
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* FanDisservice: Anything to do with Hugo's sexual escapades is this. Any shown on screen are vaguely creepy at best, and ''nauseating'' at worst. It's entirely intentional to show him as an absolute monster, though, especially when it comes to his plans for the Children's Crusade.
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* AntiClimaxBoss: Hugo is remarkably easy to beat, and puts up ''much'' less of a fights than one would expect from a fully grown knight. The only even slightly hard part was keeping him from escaping back into his castle. After that, it was as easy as Nicolas chopping off his head.
* BadassDecay: Hugo goes from a vaguely impressive villain to begging for his life in about three chapters.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: Hugo is remarkably easy to beat, and puts up ''much'' less of a fights than one would expect from a fully grown knight. The only even slightly hard part was keeping him from escaping back into his castle. After that, it was as easy as Nicolas chopping off his head.
head. Rather justified when Hugo reveals he's never actually been in a real fight.
* BadassDecay: Hugo Hugo's image as a 'badass' is quite the facade, and he goes from a vaguely impressive villain to begging for his life in about three chapters.
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*CompleteMonster: Sir Hugo at first seems an affable member of The Knights Templar, eager to help the Children's Crusade in their goal. It is revealed Hugo is paying townspeople to fake miracles to enhance the Crusade's reputation and earn more money for himself. When the kids cut ties with him, Hugo has bandits attack them for the money, killing multiple children. Hugo then convinces three of the boys to join him, raping them as an "initiation" and having them sway others to his side. When one boy resists Hugo's attempted rape, Hugo beats him and has him thrown out of the castle where the boy commits suicide in shame. Hugo then has his initial three recruits fight to the death for his entertainment in a "rite of courage" before he is ambushed by the young Crusaders Nicolas and Guy, having the audacity to plead for his life by claiming they were nothing before him just before Nicolas beheads him.
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* AcceptableReligiousTargets: Catholics aren't exactly portrayed in a positive light, especially the ones most involved the the Church.
* AlasPoorScrappy: Guillaume and Pierre were two bratty, spoiled, selfish, rotten boys. . . but their deaths were ''heartbreaking''. Watching two young boys forced to kill each other for the sadistic whims of a man intending to throw them away could be almost enough to redeem them, especially considering just how ''young'' they both are.
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Many.
** Is Etienne a poorly written PuritySue with AssPull powers and a lack of any real development, or a genuinely sweet, good young man who just so happens to have God wanting him alive?
** Is Nicolas annoying and immature, or doing the best a 12 year old boy in his circumstances reasonably could? Is he in love with Etienne and/or following hom out of genuine loyalty, or only using Etty's powers to advance his own goals?
** Is Christian wanting to be a woman merely him trying to justify his feelings for Etienne, or does he actually ''want'' to be female? And is he nothing more than an unhinged, lust crazed teen, or does he really have feelings for Etienne?
**Are Guillaume and Pierre annoying, spoiled brats, or ''children'' who only behave badly because they've been taught to?
** Is Henri a weak, useless burden to the Crusade, or a brave young man who conquered his fears for the cause? And was his killing of mark nothing more than an excuse for gore and angst, or a moment of showing just how naive the boys really are?
** Is Micheal a reprehensible brat who deserved his eventual fate, or a misled boy who'd been practically brainwashed into what he did? And was he ''really'' a bit dopey and strange, or was it entirely faked?
* AntiClimaxBoss: Hugo is remarkably easy to beat, and puts up ''much'' less of a fights than one would expect from a fully grown knight. The only even slightly hard part was keeping him from escaping back into his castle. After that, it was as easy as Nicolas chopping off his head.
* BadassDecay: Hugo goes from a vaguely impressive villain to begging for his life in about three chapters.
* CaptainObviousReveal: Hugo's status as absolutely ''evil'' was pretty clear by chapter 7. By chapter 11 and on, most people had already guessed he wasn't what he seemed.
* CreepyCute: Michael is eerily beautiful, with strange, almost alien like features, and has one of the highest kill counts in the story, He still manages to be an ''adorable'' kid.
* FanDisservice: Anything to do with Hugo's sexual escapades is this. Any shown on screen are vaguely creepy at best, and ''nauseating'' at worst. It's entirely intentional to show him as an absolute monster, though, especially when it comes to his plans for the Children's Crusade.
* GeniusBonus: Etienne's story features a lot of subtle biblical references, including minor miracles that parallel those of Jesus. While fairly obvious to Christian viewers, non-religious readers may miss them entirely,
* GrowingTheBeard: The second volume, especially any parts following the Forest of Demons, is where the story really starts to get going.
* IdiotPlot: The entire premise of sending children out on The Crusades was a terrible idea from the start. Every bad thing that happens in the story could have been averted by some decent adult supervision, or better yet, ''not sending literal children to war'.
* IronWoobie: Etienne can be considered this. Despite going through absolutely 'horrible'' things, including multiple botched executions, he remains a determined pillar of morality and hope. Not even ''actual death'' manages to stop him from going on to do great things.
* JerkassWoobie: Guillaume and Pierre both qualify. Both are bratty, nasty children with horrific stories and brutal deaths.
* MoralEventHorizon: Hugo's [[spoiler: rape]] of a select few member's of Etienne's crusade is this. He'd been nasty before, but this is the moment that really proves him to be abhorrent.
* NauseaFuel: Literally ''everything'' Hugo does to the boys.
** Etienne's execution, which features letters carved into his chest, his half starved, filthy, beaten body, trumpet noises coming ''out of his mouth'', white, blank eyes, and the hanging of his body on a stake.
* OneSceneWonder: Laurent has very little plot relevance. . . at least until he climbs Hugo like a tree and endures repeated stabbing to drag the man down to his awaiting execution.
* OneTrueThreesome: A platonic example with Etienne, Nicolas, and Guy, who make up the most functional, loyal team in the story. The three are ''extremely'' close, and all have their reasons for being deathly loyal to each other. Etienne, of course, is filled with love for literally everyone, and that kindness is what won over the two most prickly of his followers.
* ThemePairing:
** Etienne and Michael, as the two hyper-religious, "pure" boys.
** Guillaume and Pierre, the two loathsome, rich boy brats.
** Guy and Nicolas, the two hot headed, rough, extremely loyal to Etienne ones.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Laurent and Lillian had a ''lot'' of potential to be interesting, but quickly fell to the side. Lillian became little more than a minor villain and shadow to Guillaume and Pierre, and Laurent was all but forgotten until his death scene. The two had a tragic backstory, twin telepathy, and a ''pile'' of development waiting to happen, only to get very little of it before being killed off.
* TooCoolToLive: Guy was a bandit boy skilled in combat, deathly loyal to Etienne, and with a [[soft side JerkWithAHeartOfGold]] that made him beyond lovable. He did make it to the end of the main story, but was killed shortly after in what was a rather half-assed plot point.
* TheWoobie:
** Henri is a sweet, gentle, crybaby of a boy who goes through one of the harshest BreakTheCutie lines possible. He goes from a precious 10 year old, to a broken, hopeless child willing to kill himself on a ''tree branch'' just to put an end to his own misery.
** Remy is a 12 year old boy with leprosy. This would be sympathetic enough on its own, but he's also sweet, gentle, and completely optimistic despite his suffering. He's slowly broken by his fading health, and eventually dies while deeming himself so ugly and broken that even God wouldn't want him.

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