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* {{Squick}}: Kaguya is shown to be openly sexually attracted to his own brother.

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* {{Squick}}: Kaguya is shown to be openly sexually attracted to his own brother.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The anime is a wacky ecchi comedy about a [[DudeLooksLikeALady feminine boy]]...who is bullied, sexually harassed, and forced to crossdress by three assertive student council members. Now you know the first reason why the anime bombed (the second being the truly shoddy quality, making some people suspect it was actively sabotaged).



* {{Squick}}: Kaguya is openly sexually attracted to his own brother. Just...ew.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Hime and Kaguya's parents ''never'' appear and that plotline is rarely addressed.
* ValuesDissonance:
** People unfamiliar with Japanese gender roles may be uncomfortable with the way Hime is treated.
** The show goes out of its way to keep with its DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale leanings, and while this is semi-typical in Japanese comedies, it's taken to uncomfortable and cruel heights here.

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* {{Squick}}: Kaguya is shown to be openly sexually attracted to his own brother. Just...ew.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Hime and Kaguya's parents ''never'' appear and that plotline is rarely addressed.
* ValuesDissonance:
** People unfamiliar with Japanese gender roles may be uncomfortable with the way Hime is treated.
** The show goes out of its way to keep with its DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale leanings, and while this is semi-typical in Japanese comedies, it's taken to uncomfortable and cruel heights here.
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The Scrappy can only apply to individual characters, not groups.


* TheScrappy: The entirety of the Student Council, minus Hime. Most of what they do is BlackComedyRape and their occasional moments of PetTheDog are few and far between and usually subverted right after. It doesn't help that all 3 of them have rather bland characterizations.

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* QuestionableCasting: All the crossdressing boys are voiced by women who make no attempt to sound male.



* TheWoobie: Poor, '''poor''' Hime. He really needs a hug.
* WTHCastingAgency: All the crossdressing boys are voiced by women who make no attempt to sound male.

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* TheWoobie: Poor, '''poor''' Hime. He really needs a hug.
* WTHCastingAgency: All the crossdressing boys are voiced by women who make no attempt to sound male.
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* TheWoobie: Poor, '''poor''' Hime. Some of his misfortunes might even fall into DudeNotFunny territory for a few viewers/readers. He really needs a hug.

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* TheWoobie: Poor, '''poor''' Hime. Some of his misfortunes might even fall into DudeNotFunny territory for a few viewers/readers. He really needs a hug.

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Must be/explain how unintentional hate,


* TheScrappy:
** The entirety of the Student Council, minus Hime. Most of what they do is BlackComedyRape and their occasional moments of PetTheDog are few and far between and usually subverted right after. It doesn't help that all 3 of them have rather bland characterizations.
** 18+ is the most hated of them, to the point where it seems like she was intentionally written to be unlikable.

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* TheScrappy:
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TheScrappy: The entirety of the Student Council, minus Hime. Most of what they do is BlackComedyRape and their occasional moments of PetTheDog are few and far between and usually subverted right after. It doesn't help that all 3 of them have rather bland characterizations. \n** 18+ is the most hated of them, to the point where it seems like she was intentionally written to be unlikable.

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ZCE + weasel words


* TheWoobie:
** Poor, '''poor''' Hime. Some of his misfortunes might even fall into dude-not-funny territory for a few viewers/readers. He really needs a hug.
** Mitsunaga for some.

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* TheWoobie:
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TheWoobie: Poor, '''poor''' Hime. Some of his misfortunes might even fall into dude-not-funny DudeNotFunny territory for a few viewers/readers. He really needs a hug.
** Mitsunaga for some.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The anime is a wacky ecchi comedy about a [[DudeLooksLikeALady feminine boy]]...who is bullied, sexually harassed, and forced to crossdress by three assertive student council members. Now you know the first reason why the anime bombed (the second being the truly shoddy quality, making some people suspect it was actively sabotaged).
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Genre Killer has a 10-year time limit, pothole is too recent


** Many watched this just because it's technically the first OtokonokoGenre anime. Most of them were fairly disappointed and those that weren't are generally pissed because it has become a GenreKiller for any further otokonoko anime.

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** Many watched this just because it's technically the first OtokonokoGenre anime. Most of them were fairly disappointed and those that weren't are generally pissed because it has become a GenreKiller been blamed for killing off any further otokonoko anime.
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** It really says something when ''Yakuza members'' come off as more sympathetic than you.
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* FetishRetardant: The skeevy, non-consentual nature of most of the fanservice. Unless you're into both crossdressing AND humiliation, you'll probably be turned off.

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* FetishRetardant: The skeevy, non-consentual non-consensual nature of most of the fanservice. Unless you're into both crossdressing AND humiliation, you'll probably be turned off.
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* WTHCastinAgency: All the crossdressing boys are voiced by women who make no attempt to sound male.

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* WTHCastinAgency: WTHCastingAgency: All the crossdressing boys are voiced by women who make no attempt to sound male.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: {{bkub}} wrote a chapter for the anthology comic a year or two before he started ''Manga/PopTeamEpic''.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: {{bkub}} Creator/{{bkub}} wrote a chapter for the anthology comic a year or two before he started ''Manga/PopTeamEpic''.



** The show goes out of its way to keep with its DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale leanings, and while this is semi-typical in Japanese comedies, it's taken to uncomfortable and cruel heights here.



** Mitsunaga for some.

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** Mitsunaga for some.some.
* WTHCastinAgency: All the crossdressing boys are voiced by women who make no attempt to sound male.
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** All the crossdressing male characters look prepubescent.



** A lot of the humor relies on homophobic jokes.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: {{bkub}} wrote a chapter for the anthology comic a year or two before he started ''Manga/PopTeamEpic''

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* RetroactiveRecognition: {{bkub}} wrote a chapter for the anthology comic a year or two before he started ''Manga/PopTeamEpic''''Manga/PopTeamEpic''.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: [[Creator/{{bkub}}]] wrote a chapter for the anthology comic a year or two before he started ''Manga/PopTeamEpic''

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* RetroactiveRecognition: [[Creator/{{bkub}}]] {{bkub}} wrote a chapter for the anthology comic a year or two before he started ''Manga/PopTeamEpic''
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* RetroactiveRecognition: [[Creator/{{bkub}}]] wrote a chapter for the anthology comic a year or two before he started ''Manga/PopTeamEpic''


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** All the crossdressing male characters look prepubescent.
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* {{Squick}}: Kaguya is openly attracted to his own brother. Just...ew.

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* {{Squick}}: Kaguya is openly sexually attracted to his own brother. Just...ew.



** The show goes out of its way to keep with its DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale leanings, while this is semi-typical in Japanese comedies its taken to uncomfortable and cruel heights here.

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** The show goes out A lot of its way to keep with its DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale leanings, while this is semi-typical in Japanese comedies its taken to uncomfortable and cruel heights here.the humor relies on homophobic jokes.

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* MostAnnoyingSound: The voice acting in the anime ''will make your ears bleed''.



** The show goes out of its way to keep with its DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale leanings, while this is semi-typical in japanese comedies its taken to uncomfortable and cruel heights here.

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** The show goes out of its way to keep with its DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale leanings, while this is semi-typical in japanese Japanese comedies its taken to uncomfortable and cruel heights here.

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* FetishRetardant: The skeevy, non-consentual nature of most of the fanservice.

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* FetishRetardant: The skeevy, non-consentual nature of most of the fanservice. Unless you're into both crossdressing AND humiliation, you'll probably be turned off.


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* {{Squick}}: Kaguya is openly attracted to his own brother. Just...ew.
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** Hime. Some of his misfortunes might even fall into dude-not-funny territory for a few viewers/readers.

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** Poor, '''poor''' Hime. Some of his misfortunes might even fall into dude-not-funny territory for a few viewers/readers. He really needs a hug.
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Transphobic/Homophobic being used where they don't belong (Hime is forced to crossdress, nobody is trans)


** Many of the jokes in this series can be seen as homophobic or transphobic, and would absolutely not fly with Western audiences.

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** Many The show goes out of the jokes in its way to keep with its DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale leanings, while this series can be seen as homophobic or transphobic, is semi-typical in japanese comedies its taken to uncomfortable and would absolutely not fly with Western audiences.cruel heights here.
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** Hime. Some of his misfortunes might even fall into unfunny territory for a few viewers/readers.

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** Hime. Some of his misfortunes might even fall into unfunny dude-not-funny territory for a few viewers/readers.
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Not YMMV


* DoubleStandard: If the genders were flipped, this would be a ''very'' disturbing series.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The ''Himegoto+'' cast, to the point that many wish they were the main characters. They were even considered one of the anime's sole bright spots.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
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The ''Himegoto+'' cast, to the point that many wish they were the main characters. They were even considered one of the anime's sole bright spots.



* JustHereForGodzilla: Many watched this just because it's technically the first OtokonokoGenre anime. Most of them were fairly disappointed and those that weren't are generally pissed because it has become a GenreKiller for any further otokonoko anime.

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* JustHereForGodzilla: JustHereForGodzilla:
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Many watched this just because it's technically the first OtokonokoGenre anime. Most of them were fairly disappointed and those that weren't are generally pissed because it has become a GenreKiller for any further otokonoko anime.



* TheScrappy: The entirety of the Student Council, minus Hime. Most of what they do is BlackComedyRape and their occasional moments of PetTheDog are few and far between and usually subverted right after. It doesn't help that all 3 of them have rather bland characterizations.

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* TheScrappy: TheScrappy:
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The entirety of the Student Council, minus Hime. Most of what they do is BlackComedyRape and their occasional moments of PetTheDog are few and far between and usually subverted right after. It doesn't help that all 3 of them have rather bland characterizations.



* SpringtimeForHitler: Some fans believe the anime was an attempt at this trope.



* ValuesDissonance: People unfamiliar with Japanese gender roles may be uncomfortable with the way Hime is treated.

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* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
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People unfamiliar with Japanese gender roles may be uncomfortable with the way Hime is treated.



* TheWoobie: Hime. Some of his misfortunes might even fall into unfunny territory for a few viewers/readers.

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* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
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Hime. Some of his misfortunes might even fall into unfunny territory for a few viewers/readers.
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** Many of the jokes in this series can be seen as homophobic or transphobic, and would absolutely not fly with Western audiences.

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