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!! The Video Game
* TooBleakStoppedCaring: [[spoiler:Grey killed his boss just before the game starts and kills a young girl during the game proper, making his [[AndIMustScream fate]] well deserved.]] Due to the game's NintendoHard nature, it's unlikely you'll find many players who like it beyond the atmosphere.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Grey. What little personality Grey is given shows him to be a {{Jerkass}}, with him [[spoiler: [[WouldHurtAChild drilling a young girl to death]] during all difficulties, and it's shown in his backstory after beating the game on Hardcore mode that he crippled a co-worker, murdered his boss,]] and the game starts with Grey washing his hands in the bathroom sink [[spoiler:to wash his boss's blood off]].

!! The Manga (and Anime)



* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids?: Grey and Nova [[spoiler:have sex in her apartment]], civilians and side characters die left and right, we get it, it's TheEighties and manga like Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar among others were a thing, still classified as shonen, if this manga ever received a remake with the content intact it'd be a hard seinen pretty much.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids?: Grey and Nova [[spoiler:have sex in her apartment]], civilians and side characters die left and right, we get it, it's TheEighties and manga like Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' among others were a thing, still classified as shonen, if this manga ever received a remake with the content intact it'd be a hard seinen pretty much.much.
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* WeirdAlEffect: The whole "fight and kill others like yourself in one off 'missions' to earn points to advance ranks and get fancier weapons" seems like some sort of commentary on online first person shooters (and Grey is just as much of a jerk as a lot of FPS players). Thing is, the story dates from the mid [[TheEighties Eighties]]; [[VideoGame/CastleWolfenstein Wolfenstein]] wasn't even [[VideoGame/Wolfenstein3D 3D]] yet.

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* WeirdAlEffect: OlderThanTheyThink: The whole "fight and kill others like yourself in one off 'missions' to earn points to advance ranks and get fancier weapons" seems like some sort of commentary on online first person shooters (and Grey is just as much of a jerk as a lot of FPS players). Thing is, the story dates from the mid [[TheEighties Eighties]]; [[VideoGame/CastleWolfenstein Wolfenstein]] wasn't even [[VideoGame/Wolfenstein3D 3D]] yet.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: [[spoiler:Grey killed his boss just before the game starts and kills a young girl during the game proper, making his [[AndIMustScream fate]] well deserved.]] Due to the game's NintendoHard nature, it's unlikely you'll find many players who like it beyond the atmosphere.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: TooBleakStoppedCaring: [[spoiler:Grey killed his boss just before the game starts and kills a young girl during the game proper, making his [[AndIMustScream fate]] well deserved.]] Due to the game's NintendoHard nature, it's unlikely you'll find many players who like it beyond the atmosphere.
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* WeirdAlEffect: The whole "fight and kill others like yourself in one off 'missions' to earn points to advance ranks and get fancier weapons" seems like some sort of commentary on online first person shooters (and Grey is just as much of a jerk as a lot of FPS players). Thing is, the story dates from the mid [[TheEighties Eighties]]; [[VideoGame/CastleWolfenstein Wolfenstein]] wasn't even [[VideoGame/Wolfenstein3D 3D]] yet.

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* WeirdAlEffect: The whole "fight and kill others like yourself in one off 'missions' to earn points to advance ranks and get fancier weapons" seems like some sort of commentary on online first person shooters (and Grey is just as much of a jerk as a lot of FPS players). Thing is, the story dates from the mid [[TheEighties Eighties]]; [[VideoGame/CastleWolfenstein Wolfenstein]] wasn't even [[VideoGame/Wolfenstein3D 3D]] yet.yet.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids?: Grey and Nova [[spoiler:have sex in her apartment]], civilians and side characters die left and right, we get it, it's TheEighties and manga like Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar among others were a thing, still classified as shonen, if this manga ever received a remake with the content intact it'd be a hard seinen pretty much.

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!! The Video Game



* WeirdAlEffect: The whole "fight and kill others like yourself in one off 'missions' to earn points to advance ranks" seems like some sort of commentary on online first person shooters (and Grey is just as much of a jerk as a lot of FPS players). Thing is, the story dates from the mid 80s, Wolfenstein wasn't even 3D yet.

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!! The Manga (and Anime)
* WeirdAlEffect: The whole "fight and kill others like yourself in one off 'missions' to earn points to advance ranks" ranks and get fancier weapons" seems like some sort of commentary on online first person shooters (and Grey is just as much of a jerk as a lot of FPS players). Thing is, the story dates from the mid 80s, Wolfenstein [[TheEighties Eighties]]; [[VideoGame/CastleWolfenstein Wolfenstein]] wasn't even 3D [[VideoGame/Wolfenstein3D 3D]] yet.
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* SurprisinglySimilarStories: Many people have noted how similar ''Grey'' is to ''VideoGame/CryOfFear''. The main characters are [[TragicHero Tragic Heroes]] who have [[MissingMom Missing Moms]] and suffer from DarkWorld-like hallucinations as they try to get home in their respective [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Cities]]. The main characters in both ''Grey'' and ''VideoGame/CryOfFear'' are even voiced by the same guy!
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* WeirdAlEffect: The whole "fight and kill others like yourself in one off "missions" to earn points to advance ranks" seems like some sort of commentary on online first person shooters (and Grey is just as much of a jerk as a lot of FPS players). Thing is, the story dates from the mid 80s, Wolfenstein wasn't even 3D yet.

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* WeirdAlEffect: The whole "fight and kill others like yourself in one off "missions" 'missions' to earn points to advance ranks" seems like some sort of commentary on online first person shooters (and Grey is just as much of a jerk as a lot of FPS players). Thing is, the story dates from the mid 80s, Wolfenstein wasn't even 3D yet.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: [[spoiler: Grey killed his boss just before the game starts and kills a young girl during the game proper, making his [[AndIMustScream fate]] well deserved.]] Due to the game's NintendoHard nature, it's unlikely you'll find many players who like it beyond the atmosphere.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: [[spoiler: Grey [[spoiler:Grey killed his boss just before the game starts and kills a young girl during the game proper, making his [[AndIMustScream fate]] well deserved.]] Due to the game's NintendoHard nature, it's unlikely you'll find many players who like it beyond the atmosphere.



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Grey. What little personality Grey is given is shows him to be a {{Jerkass}}, with him [[spoiler: [[WouldHurtAChild drilling a young girl to death]] during all difficulties, and it's shown in his backstory after beating the game on Hardcore mode that he crippled a co-worker, murdered his boss,]] and the game starts with Grey washing his hands in the bathroom sink [[spoiler: to wash his boss's blood off]].

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Grey. What little personality Grey is given is shows him to be a {{Jerkass}}, with him [[spoiler: [[WouldHurtAChild drilling a young girl to death]] during all difficulties, and it's shown in his backstory after beating the game on Hardcore mode that he crippled a co-worker, murdered his boss,]] and the game starts with Grey washing his hands in the bathroom sink [[spoiler: to [[spoiler:to wash his boss's blood off]].
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: [[spoiler: Grey killed his boss just before the game starts and kills a young girl during the game proper, making his [[AndIMustScream fate]] well deserved.]]

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: [[spoiler: Grey killed his boss just before the game starts and kills a young girl during the game proper, making his [[AndIMustScream fate]] well deserved.]]]] Due to the game's NintendoHard nature, it's unlikely you'll find many players who like it beyond the atmosphere.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: [[spoiler: Grey killed his boss just before the game starts and kills a young girl during the game proper, making his [[AndIMustScream fate]] well deserved.]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Grey. What little personality Grey is given is shows him to be a {{Jerkass}}, and at one point [[spoiler: he's shown [[WouldHurtAChild drilling a young girl to death]] with no reason for that behavior explained to the player]].

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Grey. What little personality Grey is given is shows him to be a {{Jerkass}}, and at one point with him [[spoiler: he's shown [[WouldHurtAChild drilling a young girl to death]] during all difficulties, and it's shown in his backstory after beating the game on Hardcore mode that he crippled a co-worker, murdered his boss,]] and the game starts with no reason for that behavior explained to Grey washing his hands in the player]].bathroom sink [[spoiler: to wash his boss's blood off]].
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Grey. What little personality Grey is given is shows him to be a {{Jerkass}}, and [[spoiler: at one point he's shown [[WouldHurtAChild drilling a young girl to death]] with no reason for that behavior explained to the player]].

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Grey. What little personality Grey is given is shows him to be a {{Jerkass}}, and [[spoiler: at one point [[spoiler: he's shown [[WouldHurtAChild drilling a young girl to death]] with no reason for that behavior explained to the player]].
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Grey. What little personality Grey is given is shows him to be a {{Jerkass}}, and [[spoiler: at one point he's shown drilling a young girl to death with no reason for that behavior explained to the player]].

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Grey. What little personality Grey is given is shows him to be a {{Jerkass}}, and [[spoiler: at one point he's shown [[WouldHurtAChild drilling a young girl to death death]] with no reason for that behavior explained to the player]].
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Grey. What little personality Grey is given is shows him to be a {{Jerkass}}, and [[spoiler: at one point he's shown drilling a young girl to death with no reason for that behavior explained to the player]].
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* ScrappyWeapon: The knife. It has as much range and deals slightly more damage than the lead pipe does, but is much slower and (considering how fast late-game enemies attack) isn't as useful against the majority of enemies.
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* SurprisinglySimilarStories: Many people have noted how similar ''VideoGame/Grey'' is to ''VideoGame/CryOfFear''. The main characters are [[TragicHero Tragic Heroes]] who have [[MissingMom Missing Moms]] and suffer from DarkWorld-like hallucinations as they try to get home in their respective [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Cities]]. The main characters in both ''VideoGame/Grey'' and ''VideoGame/CryOfFear'' are even voiced by the same guy!

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* SurprisinglySimilarStories: Many people have noted how similar ''VideoGame/Grey'' ''Grey'' is to ''VideoGame/CryOfFear''. The main characters are [[TragicHero Tragic Heroes]] who have [[MissingMom Missing Moms]] and suffer from DarkWorld-like hallucinations as they try to get home in their respective [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Cities]]. The main characters in both ''VideoGame/Grey'' ''Grey'' and ''VideoGame/CryOfFear'' are even voiced by the same guy!
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* SurprisinglySimilarStories: Many people have noted how similar Grey is to ''VideoGame/CryOfFear''. The main characters are [[TragicHero Tragic Heroes]] who have [[MissingMom Missing Moms]] and suffer from DarkWorld-like hallucinations as they try to get home in their respective [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Cities]]. The two main characters are even voiced by the same guy!

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* SurprisinglySimilarStories: Many people have noted how similar Grey ''VideoGame/Grey'' is to ''VideoGame/CryOfFear''. The main characters are [[TragicHero Tragic Heroes]] who have [[MissingMom Missing Moms]] and suffer from DarkWorld-like hallucinations as they try to get home in their respective [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Cities]]. The two main characters in both ''VideoGame/Grey'' and ''VideoGame/CryOfFear'' are even voiced by the same guy!
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* SurprisinglySimilarStories: Many people have noted how similar Grey is to ''VideoGame/CryOfFear''. The main characters are [[TragicHero Tragic Heroes]] who have [[MissingMom Missing Moms]] and suffer from DarkWorld-like hallucinations as they try to get home in their respective [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Cities]]. The two main characters are even voiced by the same guy!
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* ScrappyWeapon: The knife. It has as much range and deals slightly more damage than the lead pipe does, but is much slower and (considering how fast late-game enemies attack) isn't as useful against the majority of enemies.

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