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** Sansa rules over a truly independent North, and is now tasked with getting the vast country back on its feet after the White Walker invasion, plus several of the great lords will likely have issues with being ruled by a woman.

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** Sansa rules over a truly independent North, and is now tasked with getting the vast country back on its feet after the White Walker invasion, invasion and somehow obtaining resources, plus several of the great lords will likely have issues with being ruled by a woman.
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** Drogon flies off to Essos with Dany's body, leaving a great many questions left to be answered. Furthermore, given some of the wondrous and terrible magic found in the distant east in places such as Asshai and the Shadow Lands, is it possible he might find some way to resurrect his mother in the same manner that Jon Snow was brought back from the dead? Or perhaps even more ways to bring her back might be possible?

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** Drogon flies off to Essos with Dany's body, leaving a great many questions left to be answered. Furthermore, given some of the wondrous and terrible magic found in the distant east in places such as Asshai and the Shadow Lands, is it possible he might find some way to resurrect his mother in the same manner that Jon Snow was brought back from the dead? After all, the red priests in Volantis did proclaim her to be Azor Ahai. Or perhaps even more ways to bring her back might be possible?
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: ''Robin Arryn'', of all people, has gained quite a few admirers when he appeared -- far from a sickly, spoiled boy, he seemed to have [[HeIsAllGrownUp grown to a handsome, well-adjusted young man]].

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: ''Robin Arryn'', of all people, has gained quite a few admirers when he appeared -- far from a sickly, spoiled boy, he seemed to have [[HeIsAllGrownUp grown to into a handsome, well-adjusted young man]].
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** Tyrion's speech about people cheering for Daenerys no matter how many terrible things she does is an unsubtle TakeThatAudience that pushes the idea that Daenerys was EvilAllAlong.

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** Tyrion's speech about people cheering for Daenerys no matter how many terrible things she does is an unsubtle TakeThatAudience that pushes the dubious idea that Daenerys was EvilAllAlong.

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*** However the idea that Tyrion would be considered the rightful heir is rather unlikely, considering many of the Lords did not even see Cersei as a legitimate ruler and if he had tried to press a claim it is unlikely he would have had much support.

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*** However the idea that Tyrion would be considered the rightful heir is rather unlikely, considering many of the Lords did not even see Cersei as a legitimate ruler and if he had tried to press a claim it is unlikely he would have had much support. Gendry would have had a better claim than Tyrion, as the legimitized son of King Robert and a distant Targaryen descendant himself.
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** The Pat that was Promised.[[note]]Jon immediately gives Ghost a pat on the head upon their reunion, compared to their underwhelming farewell two episodes prior which fans were very upset about.[[/note]]

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** The Pat that was Promised.[[note]]Jon immediately gives Ghost a pat on the head upon their reunion, compared to their underwhelming farewell two episodes prior prior, which fans were very upset about.[[/note]]



** Tyrion, when he finds the bodies of his siblings under the rubble in the Red Keep's cellar and cries.

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** Tyrion, when he finds the bodies of his siblings under the rubble in the Red Keep's cellar and cries. He's so broken by grief over their deaths and guilt over his role in causing them and thousands of innocents to die that he's resigned to his impending execution, perhaps even [[DeathSeeker welcoming it]].

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Drogon burning the Iron Throne could be easily be interpreted as this, as it was the source of all the conflict that plagued Westeros. Even though various characters have committed atrocities without using the throne as a source of inspiration, and the fact that the title is "Game of Thrones" in the plural and not singular (i.e. all thrones should be the problem, not just this one), it has been a symbol of all the conflict in the series due to the fact that it sitting on it is meant to be seen as having total power across the realms. Drogon burning it comes across as the writers screaming that the throne was not what was important.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: {{Anvilicious}}:
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Drogon burning the Iron Throne could be easily be interpreted as this, as it was the source of all the conflict that plagued Westeros. Even though various characters have committed atrocities without using the throne as a source of inspiration, and the fact that the title is "Game of Thrones" in the plural and not singular (i.e. all thrones should be the problem, not just this one), it has been a symbol of all the conflict in the series due to the fact that it sitting on it is meant to be seen as having total power across the realms. Drogon burning it comes across as the writers screaming that the throne was not what was important.important.
** Tyrion's speech about people cheering for Daenerys no matter how many terrible things she does is an unsubtle TakeThatAudience that pushes the idea that Daenerys was EvilAllAlong.

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** Drogon’s reason for destroying the Iron Throne. Did he destroy it to spite Jon as a means of “if she can’t have it, neither can you?” Did Drogon let Jon live even as he stood there looking as if he was ready for death, forcing Jon to [[CruelMercy live with his guilt for the rest of his days]]? Or did Drogon destroy it because he truly blames the Iron Throne more than Jon since he knew his mother’s obsession with it drove her mad and eventually led to her death? Was it Drogon's own idea to burn the Iron Throne instead of Jon, or was he acting on Dany's last mental command? Or Bran's warging? Or was he ignorant that Jon killed Dany (he found him cradling her body sobbing, for all he knows the killer escaped) and destroyed the throne out of grief?

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** Drogon’s reason for destroying the Iron Throne. Did he destroy it to spite Jon as a means of “if she can’t have it, neither can you?” Did Drogon let Jon live even as he stood there looking as if he was ready for death, forcing Jon to [[CruelMercy live with his guilt for the rest of his days]]? Or did Drogon destroy it because he truly blames the Iron Throne more than Jon since he knew his mother’s obsession with it drove her mad and eventually led to her death? Was it Drogon's own idea to burn the Iron Throne instead of Jon, or was he acting on Dany's last mental command? Or Bran's warging? Or was he ignorant that warging?
*** In addition, Drogon clearly knew
Jon killed Dany, yet Drogon didn't kill him? Did Drogon let Jon live even as he stood there looking as if he was ready for death, forcing Jon to [[CruelMercy live with his guilt for the rest of his days]]? Or was it because he may have been growing disillusioned with Dany, even if he couldn't bring himself to abandon her, after being used to murder so many, including innocents, so when he saw Jon's heartbroken expression, he bitterly acknowledged that Jon did in fact spare her any further suffering and although he certainly was heartbroken, what was the point of killing Jon when he was the one who freed both Dany (he found and Drogon? Wouldn't it only add more to the blood that had been shed? Especially considering Jon was in a way Drogon's "Father", so additionally Drogon may just retain enough affection for him cradling her body sobbing, for all he knows the killer escaped) and destroyed the throne out of grief?to not be able to bring himself to straight up kill him.
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** Grey Worm ends up fulfilling his promise to Missandei before the Great Battle of Winterfell, going to Naath with many Unsullied to protect the island. Sounds happy enough (if [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet]] due to the fact his love is dead), but if the TV version of Naath is the same as the books, then the butterflies kill half of any visitors due to [[https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Butterfly_fever a severe poison]] that only the Naatheen are totally immune to. While no doubt some Unsullied were taken from Naath, Grey Worm was not, and if these butterflies exist in the show's continuity[[note]](Davos mentions Naath's butterflies when meeting Missandei in Season 7, and a butterfly is the sigil beside Creator/NathalieEmmanuel's name in the opening credits)[[/note]], it's likely he's going to die a painful death or watch his fellow Unsullied die painful deaths around him.

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** Grey Worm ends up fulfilling his promise to Missandei before the Great Battle of Winterfell, going to Naath with many Unsullied to protect the island. Sounds happy enough (if [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet]] due to the fact his love is dead), but if the TV version of Naath is the same as the books, then the butterflies kill half of any visitors due to [[https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Butterfly_fever a severe poison]] horrific flesh sloughing disease.]] that only the Naatheen are totally immune to. While no doubt some Unsullied were taken from Naath, Grey Worm was not, and if these butterflies exist in the show's continuity[[note]](Davos mentions Naath's butterflies when meeting Missandei in Season 7, and a butterfly is the sigil beside Creator/NathalieEmmanuel's name in the opening credits)[[/note]], it's likely he's going to die a painful death or watch his fellow Unsullied die painful deaths around him.
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** In that vein, if being the Three-Eyed Raven is what makes Bran so qualified for the job, who else is going to get that kind of universal support from the lords of Westeros after he passes on? Unless it's the next Three-Eyed Raven, and the Six Kingdoms become a {{Magocracy}} in perpetuity. Will the superstitious and suspicious attitudes common towards magic not cause some unrest?


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** In the past, the North has suffered heavily during winters and required substantial donations of food from the southern kingdoms in order to get through them, which the monarch was obligated to provide when the North was part of the Seven Kingdoms, but won't be now. Not to mention all the material damage caused by the White Walker invasion.
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** Bran wins by doing absolutely nothing! [[labelnote:explanation]]A parody of the infamous [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6PxRwgjzZw Luigi Wins by doing absolute nothing]] from the VideoGame/MarioParty fandom. After all the build up of Bran becoming The Owl ended with an anticlimax in ''Recap/GameOfThronesS8E3TheLongNight'' where it was revealed that he really didn't have a masterplan, many viewers were left bemused that Bran got named the new King despite being so divorced from the plot.[[/labelnote]]
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* {{Narm}}: Arya saying, "I know a killer when I see one," regarding Dany might've been good foreshadowing and a display of keen insight on Arya's part earlier in the season. Coming on the heels of watching Dany immolate an entire city it's more tempting to shout, "No shit, Sherlock!" It was obviously scripted to be a cool-sounding one-liner but it's so out-of-place now that Dany being a killer isn't up for debate that it comes off as hilarious.

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* {{Narm}}: Arya saying, "I know a killer when I see one," regarding Dany might've been good foreshadowing and a display of keen insight on Arya's part earlier in the season. Coming on the heels of watching Dany immolate an entire city it's more tempting to shout, "No shit, Sherlock!" It was obviously scripted to be a cool-sounding one-liner one-liner, but it's so out-of-place now that Dany being a killer isn't up for debate that it comes off as hilarious.
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** Westeros under the rule of a BenevolentMageRuler with the consciousness of earlier Three-Eyed Raven(s) and the COTF underneath is presented as the best way forward, except others believe that having a sorceror in a position of authority, one who now has perfect {{Clairvoyance}} and who plainly has [[BlueAndOrangeMorality a morality above ordinary human concerns]] in charge is terrifying, since there's no real way to move or counter Bran without it somehow being in some way AllAccordingToPlan, while also cancelling out free will in the process. Making it even more terrifying is that the ''previous'' three eyed raven lived to the ripe old age of ''several hundred years'' and ultimately didn't even die of old age, implying that [[ImmortalRuler Bran's rule could conceivably last for multiple lifetimes]].

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** Westeros under the rule of a BenevolentMageRuler with the consciousness of earlier Three-Eyed Raven(s) and the COTF underneath is presented as the best way forward, except others believe that having a sorceror sorcerer in a position of authority, one who now has perfect {{Clairvoyance}} and who plainly has [[BlueAndOrangeMorality a morality above ordinary human concerns]] in charge is terrifying, since there's no real way to move or counter Bran without it somehow being in some way AllAccordingToPlan, while also cancelling out free will in the process. Making it even more terrifying is that the ''previous'' three eyed raven lived to the ripe old age of ''several hundred years'' and ultimately didn't even die of old age, implying that [[ImmortalRuler Bran's rule could conceivably last for multiple lifetimes]].
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* HarsherInHindsight: Daenerys's death would end up being this because weeks before it happened, Emilia Clarke revealed that she almost died from two brain aneurysms during the filming of the series. Even scarier that if she really would've lost her life, Daenerys would've gotten TheCharacterDiedWithHim treatment.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: ABSOLUTE. POWER. IS. BAD. The pursuit of power corrupts those with noble intentions (see: Daenerys) and makes bad people worse (see: Cersei). In Westeros, it has led to the desolation of King's Landing and misery for generations.
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*** Possibly justified because Bran, who is Sam's friend and employer can probably just change the law regarding Maesters leading monastic lives. Of course this isn't stated in the episode, so it's still in the air.
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*** Possibly justified because Bran, who is Sam's friend and employer can probably just change the law regarding Maesters leading monastic lives. Of course this isn't stated in the episode, so it's still in the air.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Daenerys's death would end up being this because weeks before it happened, Emilia Clarke revealed that she almost died from two brain aneurysms during the filming of the series. Even scarier that if she really would've lost her life, Daenerys would've gotten TheCharacterDiedWithHim treatment.
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**** However the idea that Tyrion would be considered the rightful heir is rather unlikely, considering many of the Lords did not even see Cersei as a legitimate ruler and if he had tried to press a claim it is unlikely he would have had much support.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: A good compromise involves both parties being unhappy with the final result. [[note]]Tyrion's explanation of the final compromise to Jon concerning his fate. The Unsullied wanted Jon executed while the North wanted Jon returned safely home. The middle ground, as determined by Bran, was to strip Jon of his titles and send him into Exile in the Nights Watch as his punishment.[[/note]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: Daenerys' NewEraSpeech reveals that she has plans to conquer the rest of the world so she can "liberate" their populations. In addition, she shows absolutely no regrets about setting fire to King's Landing and torching the civilians, and indeed seems ''glad'' about it. Daenerys also explicitly lists ''Dorne'' as among her list of targets, despite the fact that they had already pledged fealty to her.

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* HilariousInHindsight:
** After spending several seasons harping on about "breaking the wheel," Dany is succeeded as sovereign by Bran Stark, who's permanently stuck in a wheelchair.
** Considering the amount of backlash it caused when [[Recap/GameOfThronesS8E4TheLastOfTheStarks Jon wouldn't pat Ghost]], to the point that it got memed, it is kinda funny when we see Ghost again at the end of the episode and Jon immediately and enthusiastically pets him. Apparently the fandom just needed to be patient to get the pat after all.
** It's funny to rewatch Jaime and Cersei's death knowing that if they just stood basically anywhere else in the collapsing room, they would have dodged the small pile of falling bricks and survived.
** Bronn winds up becoming the Master of Coin on the new Small Council. Shortly after the episode aired, [[https://mashable.com/article/ser-bronn-cryptocurrency-vegan-nation-game-of-thrones-vegancoin/ his actor became an adviser for a cryptocurrency.]]
** The infamous quote "If you think this story has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention" became a lot funnier in the light that, bar Daenerys, pretty much every surviving "good" character involved got a pretty happy ending. The worst off is Jon, who loses his love interest but still winds up as leader of the Night's Watch and the wildlings, living far away from politics and surrounded by friends and admirers.

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* HilariousInHindsight:
** After spending several seasons harping on about "breaking the wheel," Dany is succeeded as sovereign by Bran Stark, who's permanently stuck in a wheelchair.
** Considering the amount of backlash it caused when [[Recap/GameOfThronesS8E4TheLastOfTheStarks Jon wouldn't pat Ghost]], to the point that it got memed, it is kinda funny when we see Ghost again at the end of the episode and Jon immediately and enthusiastically pets him. Apparently the fandom just needed to be patient to get the pat after all.
** It's funny to rewatch Jaime and Cersei's death knowing that if they just stood basically anywhere else in the collapsing room, they would have dodged the small pile of falling bricks and survived.
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HilariousInHindsight: Bronn winds up becoming the Master of Coin on the new Small Council. Shortly after the episode aired, [[https://mashable.com/article/ser-bronn-cryptocurrency-vegan-nation-game-of-thrones-vegancoin/ his actor became an adviser for a cryptocurrency.]]
** The infamous quote "If you think this story has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention" became a lot funnier in the light that, bar Daenerys, pretty much every surviving "good" character involved got a pretty happy ending. The worst off is Jon, who loses his love interest but still winds up as leader of the Night's Watch and the wildlings, living far away from politics and surrounded by friends and admirers.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: If Fans were hoping to see what became of Meera Reed, the only one of Bran's party to make it back to Winterfell and who was PutOnABus to return to her father, are sadly left without seeing her reaction to her friend becoming a King, nor whether she got ''any'' recognition or reward for braving what lay beyond the Wall in order to get Bran to the Three-Eyed Raven and losing her beloved little brother, Summer, and Hodor along the way.
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** Westeros under the rule of a BenevolentMageRuler with the consciousness of earlier Three-Eyed Raven(s) and the COTF underneath is presented as the best way forward, except others believe that having a sorceror in a position of authority, one who now has perfect {{Clairvoyance}} and who plainly has [[BlueAndOrangeMorality a morality above ordinary human concerns]] in charge is terrifying, since there's no real way to move or counter Bran without it somehow being in some way AllAccordingToPlan, while also cancelling out free will in the process. Making it even more terrifying is that the ''previous'' three eyed raven lived to the ripe old age of ''several hundred years'' and ultimately didn't even die of old age, implying that Bran's rule could conceivably last for multiple lifetimes.

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** Westeros under the rule of a BenevolentMageRuler with the consciousness of earlier Three-Eyed Raven(s) and the COTF underneath is presented as the best way forward, except others believe that having a sorceror in a position of authority, one who now has perfect {{Clairvoyance}} and who plainly has [[BlueAndOrangeMorality a morality above ordinary human concerns]] in charge is terrifying, since there's no real way to move or counter Bran without it somehow being in some way AllAccordingToPlan, while also cancelling out free will in the process. Making it even more terrifying is that the ''previous'' three eyed raven lived to the ripe old age of ''several hundred years'' and ultimately didn't even die of old age, implying that [[ImmortalRuler Bran's rule could conceivably last for multiple lifetimes.lifetimes]].

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** Considering the amount of InternetBackdraft it caused when [[Recap/GameOfThronesS8E4TheLastOfTheStarks Jon wouldn't pat Ghost]], to the point that it got memed, it is kinda funny when we see Ghost again at the end of the episode and Jon immediately and enthusiastically pets him. Apparently the fandom just needed to be patient to get the pat after all.

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** Considering the amount of InternetBackdraft backlash it caused when [[Recap/GameOfThronesS8E4TheLastOfTheStarks Jon wouldn't pat Ghost]], to the point that it got memed, it is kinda funny when we see Ghost again at the end of the episode and Jon immediately and enthusiastically pets him. Apparently the fandom just needed to be patient to get the pat after all.



* InternetBackdraft: It’d be easier to point out what’s ''not'' controversial.
** Dany’s death, both from Dany fans and those who felt it was forced or anticlimactic.
** Bran becoming king out of nowhere. Especially considering that the lords assembled really have no reason to champion Bran.
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** Drogon blaming the Iron Throne ([[CaptainObvious which is made out of swords]]) as the ''literal'' [[https://i.redd.it/j717a80z2az21.png cause of death]] [[https://i.redd.it/0pacceit3ez21.jpg for Daenerys]]... or alternatively, him being unexpectedly WickedCultured and suddenly start [[https://i.redd.it/xn96keavnnz21.jpg being poetic]] about how it's a more metaphorical cause of death ([[https://i.redd.it/eo9yz4u5we031.png the icing on the cake being his hatred of poor people]]). Others jokingly suggest that he’s just helpfully getting the Iron Throne out of the way since Bran won’t need it (he’s already sitting in his wheelchair). Sometimes suggesting he's making the Iron Accessibility Ramp.

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** Drogon blaming the Iron Throne ([[CaptainObvious which (which is made out of swords]]) swords) as the ''literal'' [[https://i.redd.it/j717a80z2az21.png cause of death]] [[https://i.redd.it/0pacceit3ez21.jpg for Daenerys]]... or alternatively, him being unexpectedly WickedCultured and suddenly start [[https://i.redd.it/xn96keavnnz21.jpg being poetic]] about how it's a more metaphorical cause of death ([[https://i.redd.it/eo9yz4u5we031.png the icing on the cake being his hatred of poor people]]). Others jokingly suggest that he’s just helpfully getting the Iron Throne out of the way since Bran won’t need it (he’s already sitting in his wheelchair). Sometimes suggesting he's making the Iron Accessibility Ramp.

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** For those fans who have always seen Daenerys as a villainous character, her death was quite satisfying.

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*** Westeros survived as separate kingdoms for 8000 years before the Targaryens came, and their rule was full of rebellions and civil wars. After the Targaryen dynasty fell, there was a prolonged conflict over the throne. It could well be better in the long run for the kingdoms to be independent, especially since the borders are well established now.
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*** Westeros survived as separate kingdoms for 8000 years before the Targaryens came, and their rule was full of rebellions and civil wars. After the Targaryen dynasty fell, there was a prolonged conflict over the throne. It could well be better in the long run for the kingdoms to be independent, especially since the borders are well established now.
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** For those fans who have always seen Daenerys as a villainous character, her death was quite satisfying.

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** Despite not getting the brutal death many have hoped for a character as evil and rotten as her, seeing Cersei dead and (a little) bloodied is still a satisfying sight that also makes up for what many believed to be an undeserved dignified death.



* HarsherInHindsight: Jon being exiled may come as this in light of Creator/KitHarington checking himself to rehab for depression shortly after the episode aired.

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