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** There's a wild theory about Bahamut floating around, despite having no in-game evidence, that [[spoiler: like how Shiva used a human form as Gentiana, ''Aranea'' is the human form of Bahamut. Proponents point to the fact that Aranea's armor is draconic in design and that Bahamut's eyes look very feminine (despite having a BadassBaritone voice). Others have suggested Cor as potentially being Bahamut's human form.]] Both are {{Jossed}} by the technically non-canon ''Dawn of the Future'' novel, in which Bahamut is his own entity [[spoiler:with a face that strongly resembles Noctis or Somnus's]].
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** There's a wild theory about Bahamut floating around, despite having no in-game evidence, that [[spoiler: like how Shiva used a human form as Gentiana, ''Aranea'' is the human form of Bahamut. Proponents point to the fact that Aranea's armor is draconic in design and that Bahamut's eyes look very feminine (despite having a BadassBaritone baritone voice). Others have suggested Cor as potentially being Bahamut's human form.]] Both are {{Jossed}} by the technically non-canon ''Dawn of the Future'' novel, in which Bahamut is his own entity [[spoiler:with a face that strongly resembles Noctis or Somnus's]].
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** Gladio's cup noodle ProductPlacement. The English voice actor, Chris Parson, sounds like he's reading the script for an ad, but keeps his BadassBaritone. While a lot of players aren't big fans of the multitude of ProductPlacement in the game, they give an exception to this sidequest because it's so over-the-top it's hilarious [[https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasy/comments/5ibvvc/you_guysare_the_best_seriously_ray_chase_noct/db6y3b5/ and thankfully deliberate]].
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** Gladio's cup noodle ProductPlacement. The English voice actor, Chris Parson, sounds like he's reading the script for an ad, but keeps his BadassBaritone.baritone. While a lot of players aren't big fans of the multitude of ProductPlacement in the game, they give an exception to this sidequest because it's so over-the-top it's hilarious [[https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasy/comments/5ibvvc/you_guysare_the_best_seriously_ray_chase_noct/db6y3b5/ and thankfully deliberate]].
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* ContestedSequel: Also, much like ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'', ''XV'' had a TroubledProduction that affected the final product. The game was praised for its visuals, nonlinearity, battle system and the bonding between Noctis and his comrades. However, it was also criticized for underdeveloped characters, like Lunafreya and the antagonists (Ardyn aside) and because plot-relevant contents were sold as paid DLC (including the BigBad's backstory, which is not included in the Royal Edition).
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* ContestedSequel: Also, much Much like ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'', ''XV'' had a TroubledProduction that affected the quality of the final product. The game was praised for its visuals, nonlinearity, battle system nonlinearity and because of the bonding between Noctis and his comrades. However, it was also criticized for its underdeveloped characters, like characters (like Lunafreya and the antagonists (Ardyn aside) most antagonists) and because plot-relevant contents were sold as paid DLC (including the BigBad's backstory, which is not included in the Royal Edition).
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* ContestedSequel: Also, much like ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'', ''XV'' had a TroubledProduction that affected the final product. The game was praised for its visuals, nonlinearity, battle system and the bonding between Noctis and his comrades. However, it was also criticized for underdeveloped characters, like Lunafreya and the antagonists (Ardyn aside) and because plot-relevant contents were sold as paid DLC (including the BigBad's backstory, which is not included in the Royal Edition).
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** Perhaps another high point of infamy is the [[AllThereInTheManual excess amount of plot-important promotional materials.]] Want to get a better idea of the main party's characterizations, pasts and relationships with Noctis? Go watch ''Brotherhood''. Want a better idea of the family bond between Noctis and Regis? Play the ''Platinum Demo'' and read the ''Parting Ways'' novella. Want ''any context whatsoever'' on the entire [[DoomedHometown fall of Insomnia and the death of Regis]] the game springs on you in the first hour? Watch the feature-length ''Kingsglaive'' film. A common sore point against all of it is people simply wanting the story of a game to be entirely contained ''within'' the game, and it's infamous enough that ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXVI'' pointedly has gone out of its way to not only ensure all of its story is internalized, but will have in-game encyclopedias and records to be able to keep track of everything without having to run off to outside sources.
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** Gladiolus is the most polarizing of the party characters mainly due to his characterization from chapter 9 onwards. His fans like his straightforwardness and take-no-shit attitude, believing he's the OnlySaneMan of the team. His detractors however belives that these traits just makes him a tactless bully who goes way too far with his [[BrutalHonesty brutal honesty]] and [[ToughLove tough love]] and an insufferable and insensitive [[JerkAss jerkass]] who's at times, dismissive towards Noctis's emotional state and to some extent, [[spoiler:Ignis in chapter 10]]. His behaviour in that same chapter where he [[spoiler: makes an angry outburst about Noct's depression following Luna's death and spends the rest of the chapter making snide remarks to the same effect, claiming that Noct should just "grow up and get over it" ]] is either a justified frustration and the proof of him helping Noctis to get a grip in his own way while also [[spoiler: showing how he's just as devastated of [[WhamEpisode Chapter 9's events as the rest of the group]]]] or an infuriating, tone-deaf and insensitive temper tantrum where he cares more about lashing out at Noctis than being there for Ignis, and for his behaviour, cutting too close to home and [[https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/ezwyqk/the-good-boys-of-final-fantasy-xv-arent-always-good reminding the detractors of men who bullied them in real life]].Him being massively [[OutOfFocus underdeveloped]] compared to the other three, His [[ProductPlacement Cup Noodle sidequest]] and the fact that his DLC episode focuses more on developing ''Cor'' than himself don't help in that regard.
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** Gladiolus is the most polarizing of the party characters mainly due to his characterization from chapter 9 onwards. His fans like his straightforwardness and take-no-shit attitude, believing he's the OnlySaneMan of the team. His detractors however belives that these traits just makes dislike him a tactless bully for being an insufferable, insensitive JerkAss who goes way too far with his [[BrutalHonesty brutal honesty]] BrutalHonesty and [[ToughLove tough love]] ToughLove and an insufferable and insensitive [[JerkAss jerkass]] who's at times, dismissive towards Noctis's emotional state and to some extent, [[spoiler:Ignis in chapter 10]]. his friends feelings, mainly Noctis. His behaviour in that same chapter Chapter 10 where he [[spoiler: makes an angry outburst about Noct's depression following Luna's death and spends the rest of the chapter making snide remarks to the same effect, claiming that Noct should just "grow up and get over it" ]] it"]] is either a [[spoiler: justified frustration and the proof of him helping Noctis to get a grip in his own way while also [[spoiler: showing how he's just as devastated of [[WhamEpisode Chapter 9's events as the rest of the group]]]] or an [[spoiler: [[QuitYourWhining infuriating, tone-deaf and insensitive temper tantrum tantrum]] where he cares more about lashing not only shoves Prompto to the side and ignores Ignis's demand to cut it out, but also continuously lashes out at Noctis than being there despite the latter not doing any of the things Gladio accused him of doing]]. His behavior was also criticized for Ignis, and for his behaviour, cutting too close to home and [[https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/ezwyqk/the-good-boys-of-final-fantasy-xv-arent-always-good reminding the detractors of men who bullied them in real life]]. Him being massively [[OutOfFocus underdeveloped]] compared to the other three, His [[ProductPlacement Cup Noodle sidequest]] and the fact that his DLC episode focuses more on developing ''Cor'' than himself don't help in that regard.
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** The Adamantoise; the massive size of the enemy works against it. It's so big that it's difficult to tell what part of its body you're targeting, your party members\ AI falls apart trying to find a place to attack, and it rarely attacks and is easily avoided when it does (you'll probably take more damage falling from a Warp Strike than you will the Adamantoise attacking you). This makes one of the game's major {{Bonus Boss}}es devolve into a confusing mess of dust clouds and Warp Strikes. A later patch made it even more anticlimactic by making it vulnerable to the spells of the Ring of the Lucii. If the RNG smiles on you, you can zap the turtle with the Ring's OneHitKO spell, or just cast [[LifeDrain Death]] until it dies. The numerous Warp Points in the area to immediately restore MP make this even easier.
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** The Adamantoise; the massive size of the enemy works against it. It's so big that it's difficult to tell what part of its body you're targeting, your party members\ members' AI falls apart trying to find a place to attack, and it the Adamantoise itself rarely attacks and is easily avoided when it does (you'll probably take more damage falling from a Warp Strike than you will from the Adamantoise attacking you). This makes one of the game's major {{Bonus Boss}}es devolve into a confusing mess of dust clouds and Warp Strikes. A later patch made it even more anticlimactic by making it vulnerable to the spells of the Ring of the Lucii. If the RNG smiles on you, you can zap the turtle with the Ring's OneHitKO spell, or just cast [[LifeDrain Death]] until it dies. The numerous Warp Points in the area to immediately restore MP make this even easier.
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: The first indication the game might be overly easy is the opening title card itself, which declares the game to be, "A Final Fantasy for Fans and ''First-Timers''". Both attacking and defending consist largely of holding down one button, so there's really no such thing as combos or timing your moves. The "parry" mechanic is extremely generous (time slows down and a giant "PARRY" button appears on screen). Players also have almost no control over the rest of their party, who largely do their own thing. This can all create dissonance when the screen is a chaotic whirlwind of flashing lights, slashing swords, and backflips, all while the player is just holding down a single button. There's also no limit to using items in combat, and with potions and revives being plentiful it's difficult to get any sort of "Game Over", even against the hardest bosses. Players craving a harder challenge had to resort to SelfImposedChallenge and even modding the game just to be able to feel some semblance of difficulty.
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: The first indication the game might be overly easy is the opening title card itself, which declares the game to be, "A Final Fantasy for Fans and ''First-Timers''". Both attacking and defending consist largely of holding down one button, so there's really no such thing as combos or timing your moves. The "parry" mechanic is extremely generous (time slows down and a giant "PARRY" button appears on screen). Players also have almost no control over the rest of their party, who largely do their own thing. This can all create dissonance when the screen is a chaotic whirlwind of flashing lights, slashing swords, and backflips, all while whilst the player is just holding down a single button. There's also no limit to using items in combat, and with potions and revives being plentiful it's difficult to get any sort of "Game Over", even against the hardest bosses. Players craving a harder challenge had to resort to SelfImposedChallenge and even modding the game just to be able to feel some semblance of difficulty.
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: The first indication the game might be overly easy is the opening title card itself, which declares the game to be, "A Final Fantasy for Fans and ''First-Timers''". Both attacking and defending consist largely of holding down one button, so players don't need to worry about forming combos with different button presses or timing their dodges. The "parry" mechanic is extremely generous (time slows down and a giant "PARRY" button appears on screen). Players also have almost no control over the rest of their party, who largely do their own thing. This can all create dissonance when the screen is a chaotic whirlwind of flashing lights, slashing swords, and backflips, all while the player is just holding down a single button. There's also no limit to using items in combat, and with potions and revives being plentiful it's difficult to get any sort of "Game Over", even against the hardest bosses. Players craving a harder challenge had to resort to SelfImposedChallenge and even modding the game just to be able to feel some semblance of difficulty.
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: The first indication the game might be overly easy is the opening title card itself, which declares the game to be, "A Final Fantasy for Fans and ''First-Timers''". Both attacking and defending consist largely of holding down one button, so players don't need to worry about forming there's really no such thing as combos with different button presses or timing their dodges.your moves. The "parry" mechanic is extremely generous (time slows down and a giant "PARRY" button appears on screen). Players also have almost no control over the rest of their party, who largely do their own thing. This can all create dissonance when the screen is a chaotic whirlwind of flashing lights, slashing swords, and backflips, all while the player is just holding down a single button. There's also no limit to using items in combat, and with potions and revives being plentiful it's difficult to get any sort of "Game Over", even against the hardest bosses. Players craving a harder challenge had to resort to SelfImposedChallenge and even modding the game just to be able to feel some semblance of difficulty.
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: The game caught some flack for its low difficulty as the [[AntiFrustrationFeatures combat was designed]] with first-timers and veteran FF players unused to action combat in mind. The inventory system is a very common criticism, as there's no limit in using items in battle and potions are extremely cheap, players can just spam potions all the way that it's impossible to die even with the hardest bosses. Many also complain the lack of hard mode, and the combat system also caught flack for just being "pressing circle/attack button to win" as doing this while spamming warp strikes is more than enough to go through the storyline.[[note]]The combat and weapon mechanics are actually fairly intricate and balanced, but the game's tutorial doesn't even [[GuideDangIt bother explaining it to players beyond some basic controls]], so some TrialAndErrorGameplay or looking up guides is required.[[/note]] Players craving a harder challenge had to resort to SelfImposedChallenge and even modding the game just to be able to feel some semblance of difficulty.
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: The first indication the game caught some flack might be overly easy is the opening title card itself, which declares the game to be, "A Final Fantasy for its low difficulty as the [[AntiFrustrationFeatures combat was designed]] with first-timers Fans and veteran FF ''First-Timers''". Both attacking and defending consist largely of holding down one button, so players unused don't need to action combat in mind. worry about forming combos with different button presses or timing their dodges. The inventory system "parry" mechanic is extremely generous (time slows down and a giant "PARRY" button appears on screen). Players also have almost no control over the rest of their party, who largely do their own thing. This can all create dissonance when the screen is a very common criticism, as there's chaotic whirlwind of flashing lights, slashing swords, and backflips, all while the player is just holding down a single button. There's also no limit in to using items in battle combat, and with potions are extremely cheap, players can just spam potions all the way that and revives being plentiful it's impossible difficult to die get any sort of "Game Over", even with against the hardest bosses. Many also complain the lack of hard mode, and the combat system also caught flack for just being "pressing circle/attack button to win" as doing this while spamming warp strikes is more than enough to go through the storyline.[[note]]The combat and weapon mechanics are actually fairly intricate and balanced, but the game's tutorial doesn't even [[GuideDangIt bother explaining it to players beyond some basic controls]], so some TrialAndErrorGameplay or looking up guides is required.[[/note]] Players craving a harder challenge had to resort to SelfImposedChallenge and even modding the game just to be able to feel some semblance of difficulty.
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** Can be self-induced since alternate costumes show up in cutscenes, including the final boss battle. So you can do stuff like wear Noctis's casual costume of a trucker hat and oversized bubble jacket. Kind of spoils the mood when characters are having very serious, very dramatic moments while dressed as a mariachi (complete with hat), or wearing swimming truks with flip-flops and floaty wings.
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** Can be self-induced since alternate costumes show up in cutscenes, including the final boss battle. So you can do stuff like wear Noctis's casual costume of a trucker hat and oversized bubble jacket. Kind of spoils the mood when characters are having very serious, very dramatic moments while dressed as a mariachi (complete with hat), or wearing swimming truks trunks with flip-flops and floaty wings.
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** Can be self-induced since alternate costumes show up in cutscenes, so you can do stuff like wear Noctis's casual costume of a trucker hat and oversized bubble jacket or a festive mariachi costume during very dramatic moments. Including the final boss battle.
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** Can be self-induced since alternate costumes show up in cutscenes, so including the final boss battle. So you can do stuff like wear Noctis's casual costume of a trucker hat and oversized bubble jacket or a festive mariachi costume during jacket. Kind of spoils the mood when characters are having very serious, very dramatic moments. Including the final boss battle.moments while dressed as a mariachi (complete with hat), or wearing swimming truks with flip-flops and floaty wings.
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: The game caught some flack for its low difficulty as the [[AntiFrustrationFeatures combat was designed]] with first-timers and veteran FF players unused to action combat in mind. The inventory system is a very common criticism, as there's no limit in using items in battle and potions are extremely cheap, players can just spam potions all the way that it's impossible to die even with the hardest bosses. Many also complain the lack of hard mode, and the combat system also caught flack for just being "pressing circle/attack button to win" as doing this while spamming warp strikes is more than enough to go through the storyline.[[note]]The combat and weapon mechanics are actually fairly intricate and balanced, but the game's tutorial doesn't even [[GuideDangIt bother explaining it to players beyind some basic controls]], so some TrialAndErrorGameplay or looking up guides is required.[[/note]] Players craving a harder challenge had to resort to SelfImposedChallenge and even modding the game just to be able to feel some semblance of difficulty.
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: The game caught some flack for its low difficulty as the [[AntiFrustrationFeatures combat was designed]] with first-timers and veteran FF players unused to action combat in mind. The inventory system is a very common criticism, as there's no limit in using items in battle and potions are extremely cheap, players can just spam potions all the way that it's impossible to die even with the hardest bosses. Many also complain the lack of hard mode, and the combat system also caught flack for just being "pressing circle/attack button to win" as doing this while spamming warp strikes is more than enough to go through the storyline.[[note]]The combat and weapon mechanics are actually fairly intricate and balanced, but the game's tutorial doesn't even [[GuideDangIt bother explaining it to players beyind beyond some basic controls]], so some TrialAndErrorGameplay or looking up guides is required.[[/note]] Players craving a harder challenge had to resort to SelfImposedChallenge and even modding the game just to be able to feel some semblance of difficulty.
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** The ''Assassin's Festival'' DLC event. While it's a transparent attempt at ProductPlacement for the ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreed'' franchise (and it ''showed''), nevertheless many fans found the whole thing so over-the-top as to be hilarious, and the amount of geeking out the heroes get up to adorable in earnest, so they just lie back and enjoy the silly ride. Helps that the event was free.
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** The ''Assassin's Festival'' DLC event. While it's a transparent attempt at ProductPlacement for the ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreed'' ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'' franchise (and it ''showed''), nevertheless many fans found the whole thing so over-the-top as to be hilarious, and the amount of geeking out the heroes get up to adorable in earnest, so they just lie back and enjoy the silly ride. Helps that the event was free.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment:
** The countdown reel [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AptAyPIL88&t=7956s briefly stopping at November]] before revealing the (original) release date of September 30, 2016, at the Uncovered event became one (or depending on one's sense of humor, HilariousInHindsight) when Square Enix announced the game was delayed to November 29.
** Prompto's jacket patch says "It's a beautiful day; now watch some bastard mess it up". Funny, until you realize that to some extent, this is what happens in the game, due to one particular bastard stirring the pot on all sides. Thanks ever so much, [[spoiler:Ardyn]].
** Many of the jokes about Ignis's glasses become this on a second playthrough,[[spoiler: knowing he'll become blind later.]] In particular, the lines about Ignis wearing glasses because he likes to see the world in perfect clarity and the banter where Ignis jokes that [[spoiler: he would love to never see Noctis and the Chocobros again.]]
** The countdown reel [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AptAyPIL88&t=7956s briefly stopping at November]] before revealing the (original) release date of September 30, 2016, at the Uncovered event became one (or depending on one's sense of humor, HilariousInHindsight) when Square Enix announced the game was delayed to November 29.
** Prompto's jacket patch says "It's a beautiful day; now watch some bastard mess it up". Funny, until you realize that to some extent, this is what happens in the game, due to one particular bastard stirring the pot on all sides. Thanks ever so much, [[spoiler:Ardyn]].
** Many of the jokes about Ignis's glasses become this on a second playthrough,[[spoiler: knowing he'll become blind later.]] In particular, the lines about Ignis wearing glasses because he likes to see the world in perfect clarity and the banter where Ignis jokes that [[spoiler: he would love to never see Noctis and the Chocobros again.]]
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** Prompto's jacket patch says "It's a beautiful day; now watch some bastard mess it up". Funny, until you realize that to some extent, this is what happens in the game, due to one particular bastard stirring the pot on all sides. Thanks ever so much, [[spoiler:Ardyn]].
** Many of the jokes about Ignis's glasses become this on a second playthrough,[[spoiler: knowing he'll become blind later.]] In particular, the lines about Ignis wearing glasses because he likes to see the world in perfect clarity and the banter where Ignis jokes that [[spoiler: he would love to never see Noctis and the Chocobros again.]]
** Many of the jokes about Ignis's glasses become this on a second playthrough,[[spoiler: knowing he'll become blind later.]] In particular, the lines about Ignis wearing glasses because he likes to see the world in perfect clarity and the banter where Ignis jokes that [[spoiler: he would love to never see Noctis and the Chocobros again.]]
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--->'''WebVideo/Max0r:''' If you know any Latin, this game is fucking insulting.
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: Mystery Meat Sushi, as mentioned on the [[https://ff15wiki.com/wiki/Mystery_Meat_Sushi wiki]] is actually a real thing.
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** Lunafreya Nox Fleuret is the single most controversial character in the entire game. She has faced a lot of criticism regarding her replacing Stella as the game's heroine and her early portrayals making her seem weak-willed. Some of this has died down with time, and she has loyal defenders who will praise her courage and [[{{Determinator}} determination]] despite a lifetime of hardship, as well as her more fleshed out depiction in ''[[Anime/KingsglaiveFinalFantasyXV Kingsglaive]]'', but her critics accuse her of being uncharismatic and little more than a [[FlatCharacter plot device]] with a handful of cool action scenes and motivations that are [[SatelliteLoveInterest centered entirely around Noctis]]. After the game's release, more ire has erupted surrounding Luna in that for all her screentime in the trailers, anime, and movie, and with continuous updates to flesh out other members of the cast, [[AdvertisedExtra her presence in the game itself is far less than what would be expected.]] This makes her divisive on a meta level, as for one half of the fandom this validates earlier criticisms regarding her supposed lack of depth, while the other half argues that Luna is simply another example of the game's [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wasted characters]] and that she shows signs of being a complex character in her own right but has simply been denied the chance to showcase it.
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** Lunafreya Nox Fleuret is the single most controversial character in the entire game. She has faced a lot of criticism regarding her replacing Stella as the game's heroine and her early portrayals making her seem weak-willed. Some of this has died down with time, and she has loyal defenders who will praise her courage and [[{{Determinator}} determination]] despite a lifetime of hardship, as well as her more fleshed out depiction in ''[[Anime/KingsglaiveFinalFantasyXV Kingsglaive]]'', but her critics accuse her of being uncharismatic and little more than a [[FlatCharacter plot device]] with a handful of cool action scenes and motivations that are [[SatelliteLoveInterest centered entirely around Noctis]]. After the game's release, more ire has erupted surrounding Luna in that for all her screentime in the trailers, anime, and movie, and with continuous updates to flesh out other members of the cast, [[AdvertisedExtra her presence in the game itself is far less than what would be expected.]] This makes her divisive on a meta level, as for one half of the fandom this validates earlier criticisms regarding her supposed lack of depth, while the other half argues that Luna is simply another example of the game's [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wasted characters]] and that she shows signs of being a complex character in her own right but has simply been denied the chance to showcase it. She continues to remain divisive even after the release of the ''Dawn of the Future'' novel, as for one side it does successfully fix her by fleshing her out and giving her more agency, while for others she still remains painfully generic, becoming more proactive but no less bland and easily outshone by Aranea and Solara in her chapters.
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** Players unsatisfied with the base game's BittersweetEnding can take solace in the alternate ending of the ''Episode Ignis'' DLC. [[spoiler:Ignis isn't blinded, he sends Ardyn into retreat by fighting and weakening him, and his short-lived alliance with Ravus sparks a peace treaty with Niflheim now that Ardyn is out of the way. While Noctis still enters the Crystal and emerges ten years later into the World of Ruin, he doesn't die defeating Ardyn at Insomnia, and goes into the throne room together with his friends, reaffirming the theme of brotherhood emphasized by the rest of the game (therefore addressing some accusations of the original ending having a BrokenAesop), and after restoring the light takes his place as king.]]
** Some players didn't like that the FinalBoss was a DuelBoss fought one-on-one with Noctis, because the rest of the game, both in story and in gameplay, emphasized the friendship and teamwork of the party and the strength the four had together. The end of ''Episode Ardyn'' allows the player to fight a BonusBoss that is a recreation of the final battle from the boss's perspective, but this time Noctis' friends join in to help him.
** The cancelled season of [[WhatCouldHaveBeen DLC]]-turned-Novel, ''Dawn of the Future'', does a number of things.
*** Fleshing out numerous characters, including Aranea, Luna, Somnus, and even Iedolas. In addition to providing Luna with much needed backstory, it also shows that Luna, contrary to [[ManipulativeBitch what the game originally implied]], [[spoiler:did not actually know that Noctis would have to die to fulfill his destiny, and also has her [[TakeThatMe reject]] her ExtremeDoormat tendencies, two traits that made her very unpopular with fans. Likewise, while Somnus still caused Ardyn's [[DrivenToVillainy fall to villainy]], the novel version of ''Episode Ardyn'' shows that [[BothSidesHaveAPoint Somnus' criticisms of Ardyn's self-martyring methods weren't unwarranted]]]].
*** [[spoiler:For those who felt destiny was unfair or that the Astrals seemed like [[KarmaHoudini Karma Houdinis]] for being partly to blame for the main game's conflict, the happy ending of the novel is only made possible because characters chose not to go along with fate and defeating Bahamut becomes the main drive of the finale]].
** Players unsatisfied with the base game's BittersweetEnding can take solace in the alternate ending of the ''Episode Ignis'' DLC. [[spoiler:Ignis isn't blinded, he sends Ardyn into retreat by fighting and weakening him, and his short-lived alliance with Ravus sparks a peace treaty with Niflheim now that Ardyn is out of the way. While Noctis still enters the Crystal and emerges ten years later into the World of Ruin, he doesn't die defeating Ardyn at Insomnia, and goes into the throne room together with his friends, reaffirming the theme of brotherhood emphasized by the rest of the game (therefore addressing some accusations of the original ending having a BrokenAesop), and after restoring the light takes his place as king.]]
** Some players didn't like that the FinalBoss was a DuelBoss fought one-on-one with Noctis, because the rest of the game, both in story and in gameplay, emphasized the friendship and teamwork of the party and the strength the four had together. The end of ''Episode Ardyn'' allows the player to fight a BonusBoss that is a recreation of the final battle from the boss's perspective, but this time Noctis' friends join in to help him.
** The cancelled season of [[WhatCouldHaveBeen DLC]]-turned-Novel, ''Dawn of the Future'', does a number of things.
*** Fleshing out numerous characters, including Aranea, Luna, Somnus, and even Iedolas. In addition to providing Luna with much needed backstory, it also shows that Luna, contrary to [[ManipulativeBitch what the game originally implied]], [[spoiler:did not actually know that Noctis would have to die to fulfill his destiny, and also has her [[TakeThatMe reject]] her ExtremeDoormat tendencies, two traits that made her very unpopular with fans. Likewise, while Somnus still caused Ardyn's [[DrivenToVillainy fall to villainy]], the novel version of ''Episode Ardyn'' shows that [[BothSidesHaveAPoint Somnus' criticisms of Ardyn's self-martyring methods weren't unwarranted]]]].
*** [[spoiler:For those who felt destiny was unfair or that the Astrals seemed like [[KarmaHoudini Karma Houdinis]] for being partly to blame for the main game's conflict, the happy ending of the novel is only made possible because characters chose not to go along with fate and defeating Bahamut becomes the main drive of the finale]].
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** A common criticism upon the game's release was the disjointed story, which involved [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot important plot events happening offscreen]] and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter certain characters being wasted]]. In an attempt to fix this, free [=DLC=] is planned that will feature new cutscenes to flesh out the story and certain characters, with Ravus being mentioned in particular. The first of these came in 2017, with a new flashback provided by Shiva in Chapter 12 explicitly spelling out the history of the Astrals and how and why Ifrit turned on them. WordOfGod is that similar free story updates like this will continue to be provided by patches going into 2018.
** Additionally, on the front of the game's criticisms for TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter, the [=DLCs=] for the game all prominently feature several of those side characters, with ''Episode Gladio'' allowing Cor to tag along and reveal his backstory, ''Episode Prompto'' giving Aranea additional screentime and featuring Verstael Besithia as the ArcVillain for the story, and ''Episode Ignis'' adding Ravus as an ally and explaining his change of heart as well as explaining ultimate fate of Caligo Ulldor.
** The Royal Edition significantly expands the endgame [[spoiler:World of Ruin]] portion, one of the most base-breaking and heavily criticized portions of the game for how [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot underbaked]] it was.
** A common criticism upon the game's release was the disjointed story, which involved [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot important plot events happening offscreen]] and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter certain characters being wasted]]. In an attempt to fix this, free [=DLC=] is planned that will feature new cutscenes to flesh out the story and certain characters, with Ravus being mentioned in particular. The first of these came in 2017, with a new flashback provided by Shiva in Chapter 12 explicitly spelling out the history of the Astrals and how and why Ifrit turned on them. WordOfGod is that similar free story updates like this will continue to be provided by patches going into 2018.
** Additionally, on the front of the game's criticisms for TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter, the [=DLCs=] for the game all prominently feature several of those side characters, with ''Episode Gladio'' allowing Cor to tag along and reveal his backstory, ''Episode Prompto'' giving Aranea additional screentime and featuring Verstael Besithia as the ArcVillain for the story, and ''Episode Ignis'' adding Ravus as an ally and explaining his change of heart as well as explaining ultimate fate of Caligo Ulldor.
** The Royal Edition significantly expands the endgame [[spoiler:World of Ruin]] portion, one of the most base-breaking and heavily criticized portions of the game for how [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot underbaked]] it was.
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** Gladiolus is the most polarizing of the party characters mainly due to his characterization from chapter 9 onwards. His fans like his straightforwardness and take-no-shit attitude, believing he's the OnlySaneMan of the team. His detractors however belives that these traits just makes him a tactless bully who goes way too far with his [[BrutalHonesty brutal honesty]] and [[ToughLove tough love]]and an insufferable and insensitive [[JerkAss jerkass]] who's at times, dismissive towards Noctis's emotional state and to some extent, [[spoiler:Ignis in chapter 10]]. His behaviour in that same chapter where he [[spoiler: makes an angry outburst about Noct's depression following Luna's death and spends the rest of the chapter making snide remarks to the same effect, claiming that Noct should just "grow up and get over it" ]] is either a justified frustration and the proof of him helping Noctis to get a grip in his own way while also [[spoiler: showing how he's just as devastated of [[WhamEpisode Chapter 9's events as the rest of the group]]]] or an infuriating, tone-deaf and insensitive temper tantrum where he cares more about lashing out at Noctis than being there for Ignis, and for his behaviour, cutting too close to home and [[https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/ezwyqk/the-good-boys-of-final-fantasy-xv-arent-always-good reminding the detractors of men who bullied them in real life]].Him being massively [[OutOfFocus underdeveloped]] compared to the other three, His [[ProductPlacement Cup Noodle sidequest]] and the fact that his DLC episode focuses more on developing ''Cor'' than himself don't help in that regard.
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** Gladiolus is the most polarizing of the party characters mainly due to his characterization from chapter 9 onwards. His fans like his straightforwardness and take-no-shit attitude, believing he's the OnlySaneMan of the team. His detractors however belives that these traits just makes him a tactless bully who goes way too far with his [[BrutalHonesty brutal honesty]] and [[ToughLove tough love]]and love]] and an insufferable and insensitive [[JerkAss jerkass]] who's at times, dismissive towards Noctis's emotional state and to some extent, [[spoiler:Ignis in chapter 10]]. His behaviour in that same chapter where he [[spoiler: makes an angry outburst about Noct's depression following Luna's death and spends the rest of the chapter making snide remarks to the same effect, claiming that Noct should just "grow up and get over it" ]] is either a justified frustration and the proof of him helping Noctis to get a grip in his own way while also [[spoiler: showing how he's just as devastated of [[WhamEpisode Chapter 9's events as the rest of the group]]]] or an infuriating, tone-deaf and insensitive temper tantrum where he cares more about lashing out at Noctis than being there for Ignis, and for his behaviour, cutting too close to home and [[https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/ezwyqk/the-good-boys-of-final-fantasy-xv-arent-always-good reminding the detractors of men who bullied them in real life]].Him being massively [[OutOfFocus underdeveloped]] compared to the other three, His [[ProductPlacement Cup Noodle sidequest]] and the fact that his DLC episode focuses more on developing ''Cor'' than himself don't help in that regard.
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** Gladiolus is the most polarizing of the party characters mainly due to his characterization from chapter 9 onwards. His fans like his straightforwardness and take-no-shit attitude, believing he's the OnlySaneMan of the team. His detractors however belives that these traits just makes him a tactless brute who goes way too far with his [[BrutalHonesty brutal honesty]] and [[ToughLove tough love]], an insufferable and insensitive [[JerkAss jerkass]] who's at times, dismissive towards Noctis's emotional state and to some extent, [[spoiler:Ignis in chapter 10]]. His behaviour in that same Chapter where he [[spoiler: makes an angry outburst about Noct's depression following Luna's death and spends the rest of the chapter making snide remarks to the same effect, claiming that Noct should just "grow up and get over it" ]] is either a justified frustration and the proof of him helping Noctis to get a grip in his own way while also [[spoiler: showing how he's just as devastated of [[WhamEpisode Chapter 9's events as the rest of the group]]]] or an infuriating, tone-deaf and insensitive temper tantrum where he cares more about lashing out at Noctis for "wallowing in self pity" than being there for Ignis, and for his behaviour, cutting too close to home and [[https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/ezwyqk/the-good-boys-of-final-fantasy-xv-arent-always-good reminding the detractors of men who bullied them in real life]].Him being massively [[OutOfFocus underdeveloped]] compared to the other three, His [[ProductPlacement Cup Noodle sidequest]] and the fact that his DLC episode focuses more on developing ''Cor'' than himself don't help in that regard.
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** Gladiolus is the most polarizing of the party characters mainly due to his characterization from chapter 9 onwards. His fans like his straightforwardness and take-no-shit attitude, believing he's the OnlySaneMan of the team. His detractors however belives that these traits just makes him a tactless brute bully who goes way too far with his [[BrutalHonesty brutal honesty]] and [[ToughLove tough love]], love]]and an insufferable and insensitive [[JerkAss jerkass]] who's at times, dismissive towards Noctis's emotional state and to some extent, [[spoiler:Ignis in chapter 10]]. His behaviour in that same Chapter chapter where he [[spoiler: makes an angry outburst about Noct's depression following Luna's death and spends the rest of the chapter making snide remarks to the same effect, claiming that Noct should just "grow up and get over it" ]] is either a justified frustration and the proof of him helping Noctis to get a grip in his own way while also [[spoiler: showing how he's just as devastated of [[WhamEpisode Chapter 9's events as the rest of the group]]]] or an infuriating, tone-deaf and insensitive temper tantrum where he cares more about lashing out at Noctis for "wallowing in self pity" than being there for Ignis, and for his behaviour, cutting too close to home and [[https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/ezwyqk/the-good-boys-of-final-fantasy-xv-arent-always-good reminding the detractors of men who bullied them in real life]].Him being massively [[OutOfFocus underdeveloped]] compared to the other three, His [[ProductPlacement Cup Noodle sidequest]] and the fact that his DLC episode focuses more on developing ''Cor'' than himself don't help in that regard.
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*** Additionally, Cindy's [[JigglePhysics original]] [[{{Gainaxing}} appearance]] in a trailer was not altered by the localisation team -- it was actually done at Tabata's request.
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*** Additionally, Cindy's [[JigglePhysics original]] [[{{Gainaxing}} original appearance]] in a trailer was not altered by the localisation team -- it was actually done at Tabata's request.
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** Gladiolus is the most polarizing of the party characters mainly due to his characterization from chapter 9 onwards. His fans like his straightforwardness and take-no-shit attitude, believing he's the OnlySaneMan of the team. His detractors however belives that these traits just makes him a tactless brute who goes way too far with his [[BrutalHonesy brutal honesty]] and [[ToughLove tough love]], an insufferable and insensitive [[JerkAss jerkass]] who's at times, dismissive towards Noctis's emotional state and to some extent, [[spoiler:Ignis in chapter 10]]. His behavoiur in that same Chapter where he [[spoiler: makes an angry outburst about Noct's depression following Luna's death and spends the rest of the chapter making snide remarks to the same effect, claiming that Noct should just "grow up and get over it" ]] is either justified and the proof of him helping Noctis to get a grip in his own way or an infuriating, tone-deaf and insensitive temper tantrum with the detractors accusing his behaviour of cutting too close to home and [[https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/ezwyqk/the-good-boys-of-final-fantasy-xv-arent-always-good reminds them of men who bullied them in real life]].Him being massively [[OutOfFocus underdeveloped]] compared to the other three, His [[ProductPlacement Cup Noodle sidequest]] and the fact that his DLC episode focuses more on developing ''Cor'' than himself don't help in that regard.
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** Gladiolus is the most polarizing of the party characters mainly due to his characterization from chapter 9 onwards. His fans like his straightforwardness and take-no-shit attitude, believing he's the OnlySaneMan of the team. His detractors however belives that these traits just makes him a tactless brute who goes way too far with his [[BrutalHonesy [[BrutalHonesty brutal honesty]] and [[ToughLove tough love]], an insufferable and insensitive [[JerkAss jerkass]] who's at times, dismissive towards Noctis's emotional state and to some extent, [[spoiler:Ignis in chapter 10]]. His behavoiur behaviour in that same Chapter where he [[spoiler: makes an angry outburst about Noct's depression following Luna's death and spends the rest of the chapter making snide remarks to the same effect, claiming that Noct should just "grow up and get over it" ]] is either a justified frustration and the proof of him helping Noctis to get a grip in his own way while also [[spoiler: showing how he's just as devastated of [[WhamEpisode Chapter 9's events as the rest of the group]]]] or an infuriating, tone-deaf and insensitive temper tantrum with the detractors accusing where he cares more about lashing out at Noctis for "wallowing in self pity" than being there for Ignis, and for his behaviour of behaviour, cutting too close to home and [[https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/ezwyqk/the-good-boys-of-final-fantasy-xv-arent-always-good reminds them reminding the detractors of men who bullied them in real life]].Him being massively [[OutOfFocus underdeveloped]] compared to the other three, His [[ProductPlacement Cup Noodle sidequest]] and the fact that his DLC episode focuses more on developing ''Cor'' than himself don't help in that regard.
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** Gladiolus is the most polarizing of the party characters. His fans like his straightforwardness and take-no-shit attitude, believing he's the OnlySaneMan of the team. His detractors however tend to see him as an insufferable and insensitive [[JerkAss jerkass]] with anger issues and [[NoSympathy no sympathy towards others’ grief]] referring to Chapter 10, where he [[spoiler:makes an angry outburst about Noct's depression following Luna's death and spends the rest of the chapter making snide remarks to the same effect, claiming that Noct's moping is "selfish" because Ignis had permanently lost his sight]]. For a lot of his detractors, his behaviour cuts too close to home and [[https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/ezwyqk/the-good-boys-of-final-fantasy-xv-arent-always-good reminds them of men who bullied them in real life]]. They also dislike him for being the most one-dimensional and least developed character in the group, His [[ProductPlacement Cup Noodle sidequest]] and the fact that his DLC episode focuses more on developing ''Cor'' than himself don't help in that regard.
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** Gladiolus is the most polarizing of the party characters.characters mainly due to his characterization from chapter 9 onwards. His fans like his straightforwardness and take-no-shit attitude, believing he's the OnlySaneMan of the team. His detractors however tend to see belives that these traits just makes him as a tactless brute who goes way too far with his [[BrutalHonesy brutal honesty]] and [[ToughLove tough love]], an insufferable and insensitive [[JerkAss jerkass]] with anger issues and [[NoSympathy no sympathy who's at times, dismissive towards others’ grief]] referring Noctis's emotional state and to some extent, [[spoiler:Ignis in chapter 10]]. His behavoiur in that same Chapter 10, where he [[spoiler:makes [[spoiler: makes an angry outburst about Noct's depression following Luna's death and spends the rest of the chapter making snide remarks to the same effect, claiming that Noct's moping Noct should just "grow up and get over it" ]] is "selfish" because Ignis had permanently lost either justified and the proof of him helping Noctis to get a grip in his sight]]. For a lot of his detractors, own way or an infuriating, tone-deaf and insensitive temper tantrum with the detractors accusing his behaviour cuts of cutting too close to home and [[https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/ezwyqk/the-good-boys-of-final-fantasy-xv-arent-always-good reminds them of men who bullied them in real life]]. They also dislike him for Him being massively [[OutOfFocus underdeveloped]] compared to the most one-dimensional and least developed character in the group, other three, His [[ProductPlacement Cup Noodle sidequest]] and the fact that his DLC episode focuses more on developing ''Cor'' than himself don't help in that regard.
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Speaking from experience on this. I don't see anyone who actually defends this sequence either. Sure it does play out in full context later, but its use in the opening fully qualifies it for this trope.
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** The opening sequence where [[spoiler: the older party members fight Ifrit for a few moments before it cuts to Noctis and company leaving Insomnia.]] In theory, as said by Tabata, [[MythologyGag this was meant to be a major mystery tease to hook the players in like]] VideoGame/FinalFantasyII, but in practice, it's a context-less sequence that doesn't really connect with the story because there's no reason for it to be there other than for mystery, which could have been remedied if the game had a narrator explaining how it connects to the main story. And this wouldn't be so noticeable if not for the technical aspects, since in a game that already takes an eternity to load in its open world assets, it can be very annoying for people starting the game up for the first time to sit through one loading screen that loads in the Citadel, the character models, the boss fight and effects from the end of the game to then having to wait for the game to load the actual main part of the game itself not five minutes later. This is even worse on the Windows Edition if you don't have a super high spec computer, which can easily triple the loading times depending on your setup.
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** What some are considering the name change from ''Final Fantasy Versus XIII'' to ''Final Fantasy XV'' to be, since this distances it from the ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'' trilogy (which despite its relative success still remains one of the most [[BrokenBase polarizing]] set of ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' titles to date; some people only bought ''Final Fantasy XIII'' because of the tenuous connection to ''Versus XIII'' as part of the ''[[Franchise/FabulaNovaCrystallisFinalFantasy Fabula Nova Crystallis]]'' project, expecting the games to play off one another). However, [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks others]] feel the name change was more of an AssPull, claiming that Square-Enix only did it to ensure that the next successful ''Final Fantasy'' title (after the [[NeverLiveItDown botched launch]] of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'') is a numbered one and not a SpinOff or GaidenGame. There are also those who think [[SavedFromDevelopmentHell it's a better alternative than either cancelling the game and/or making a different one from scratch]].
** The ''Dawn 2.0'' trailer is considered one for Luna's character, who was frequently criticized as coming across as weak-willed, to say nothing of how she came to be. This trailer showed us that this was not the case.
** Unveiled at E3 2016 is the new "Wait Mode" feature, which allows players to stop the pace of the battle to decide what their next move will be. Just like old times... or at least as close as it can be.
** A common criticism upon the game's release was the disjointed story, which involved [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot important plot events happening offscreen]] and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter certain characters being wasted]]. In an attempt to fix this, free [=DLC=] is planned that will feature new cutscenes to flesh out the story and certain characters, with Ravus being mentioned in particular. The first of these came in 2017, with a new flashback provided by Shiva in Chapter 12 explicitly spelling out the history of the Astrals and how and why Ifrit turned on them. WordOfGod is that similar free story updates like this will continue to be provided by patches going into 2018.
*** Additionally, on the front of characters being underused, the [=DLCs=] for the game all prominently feature side characters, with ''Episode Gladio'' allowing Cor to tag along and reveal his backstory, and ''Episode Prompto'' featuring Verstael Besithia as the ArcVillain for the story.
** The Armiger system got some flak for being underwhelming as Noctis' LimitBreak; it didn't last very long, didn't do much damage, and just had nowhere near the power or visual spectacle the trailers for the game hyped. The ''Royal Edition'' added a new accessory, "Founder King's Sigil", acquired after getting all 13 Royal Arms, and equipping it changes the Armiger to ''Armiger Unleashed''. Armiger Unleashed lasts much longer, lets Noctis break the damage limit, gives him a huge power boost including access to unique combo finishers that require proper timing to use (mitigating combat devolving into ButtonMashing, another criticism of the gameplay), and he can use powerful Tech attacks, with the strongest, "Legacy of the Lucii", being a devestating StormOfBlades combo that ends with Noctis doing a VictoryPose. Armiger Unleashed still isn't up to the levels of power Noctis exhibits during the famous Leviathan sequence, but it's much, much closer to it, and to what the trailers hyped, than the original Armiger, and much more worthy of being Noctis' LimitBreak skill.
** One of the much-lamented changes from ''Versus XIII'' was the removal of character switching in the main storyline. This was finally implemented in Patch 1.20.
** Players unsatisfied with the base game's BittersweetEnding can take solace in the alternate ending of the ''Episode Ignis'' DLC. [[spoiler:Ignis isn't blinded, he sends Ardyn into retreat by fighting and weakening him, and his short-lived alliance with Ravus sparks a peace treaty with Niflheim now that Ardyn is out of the way. While Noctis still enters the Crystal and emerges ten years later into the World of Ruin, he doesn't die defeating Ardyn at Insomnia, and goes into the throne room together with his friends, reaffirming the theme of brotherhood emphasized by the rest of the game (therefore addressing some accusations of the original ending having a BrokenAesop), and after restoring the light takes his place as king.]]
** The Royal Edition significantly expands the endgame [[spoiler:World of Ruin]] portion, one of the most base-breaking and heavily criticized portions of the game for how [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot underbaked]] it was.
** Some players didn't like that the FinalBoss was a DuelBoss fought one-on-one with Noctis, because the rest of the game, both in story and in gameplay, emphasized the friendship and teamwork of the party and the strength the four had together. The end of ''Episode Ardyn'' allows the player to fight a BonusBoss that is a recreation of the final battle from the boss's perspective, but this time Noctis' friends join in to help him -- it's not clear if it's meant to be a {{Retcon}} or a WhatIf, though.
** People who missed out on one or both of the [=DLC=] festivals (either missing the Moogle Chocobo one, which meant you didn't get the golden egg or missed the Assassin's Festival for playing and redeeming the egg for the extra costumes) were excited when in Patch 1.29 that Square allowed you the Master Assassin (Alair) Robes from ''Assassin's Creed'' that you could only get through those [=DLCs=] and in a specific manner ''Spider-Man ([=PS4=])'' style, particularly PC players, who never got to experience either festivals due to both ending before the PC port of the game was released.
** The cancelled season of [[WhatCouldHaveBeen DLC]]-turned-Novel, ''Dawn of the Future'', does a number of things.
*** Fleshing out numerous characters, including Aranea, Luna, Somnus, and even Iedolas. In addition to providing Luna with much needed backstory, it also shows that Luna, contrary to what the game originally implied, [[spoiler:did not actually know that Noctis would have to die to fulfill his destiny, and also has her [[TakeThatMe reject]] her ExtremeDoormat tendencies, two traits that made her very unpopular with fans. Likewise, while Somnus still caused Ardyn's [[DrivenToVillainy fall to villainy]], the novel version of ''Episode Ardyn'' shows that [[BothSidesHaveAPoint Somnus' criticisms of Ardyn's self-martyring methods weren't unwarranted]]]].
*** [[spoiler:For those who felt destiny was unfair or that the Astrals seemed like [[KarmaHoudini Karma Houdinis]] for being partly to blame for the main game's conflict, the happy ending of the novel is only made possible because characters chose not to go along with fate and defeating Bahamut becomes the main drive of the finale]].
** What some are considering the name change from ''Final Fantasy Versus XIII'' to ''Final Fantasy XV'' to be, since this distances it from the ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'' trilogy (which despite its relative success still remains one of the most [[BrokenBase polarizing]] set of ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' titles to date; some people only bought ''Final Fantasy XIII'' because of the tenuous connection to ''Versus XIII'' as part of the ''[[Franchise/FabulaNovaCrystallisFinalFantasy Fabula Nova Crystallis]]'' project, expecting the games to play off one another). However, [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks others]] feel the name change was more of an AssPull, claiming that Square-Enix only did it to ensure that the next successful ''Final Fantasy'' title (after the [[NeverLiveItDown botched launch]] of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'') is a numbered one and not a SpinOff or GaidenGame. There are also those who think [[SavedFromDevelopmentHell it's a better alternative than either cancelling the game and/or making a different one from scratch]].
** The ''Dawn 2.0'' trailer is considered one for Luna's character, who was frequently criticized as coming across as weak-willed, to say nothing of how she came to be. This trailer showed us that this was not the case.
** Unveiled at E3 2016 is the new "Wait Mode" feature, which allows players to stop the pace of the battle to decide what their next move will be. Just like old times... or at least as close as it can be.
** A common criticism upon the game's release was the disjointed story, which involved [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot important plot events happening offscreen]] and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter certain characters being wasted]]. In an attempt to fix this, free [=DLC=] is planned that will feature new cutscenes to flesh out the story and certain characters, with Ravus being mentioned in particular. The first of these came in 2017, with a new flashback provided by Shiva in Chapter 12 explicitly spelling out the history of the Astrals and how and why Ifrit turned on them. WordOfGod is that similar free story updates like this will continue to be provided by patches going into 2018.
*** Additionally, on the front of characters being underused, the [=DLCs=] for the game all prominently feature side characters, with ''Episode Gladio'' allowing Cor to tag along and reveal his backstory, and ''Episode Prompto'' featuring Verstael Besithia as the ArcVillain for the story.
** The Armiger system got some flak for being underwhelming as Noctis' LimitBreak; it didn't last very long, didn't do much damage, and just had nowhere near the power or visual spectacle the trailers for the game hyped. The ''Royal Edition'' added a new accessory, "Founder King's Sigil", acquired after getting all 13 Royal Arms, and equipping it changes the Armiger to ''Armiger Unleashed''. Armiger Unleashed lasts much longer, lets Noctis break the damage limit, gives him a huge power boost including access to unique combo finishers that require proper timing to use (mitigating combat devolving into ButtonMashing, another criticism of the gameplay), and he can use powerful Tech attacks, with the strongest, "Legacy of the Lucii", being a devestating StormOfBlades combo that ends with Noctis doing a VictoryPose. Armiger Unleashed still isn't up to the levels of power Noctis exhibits during the famous Leviathan sequence, but it's much, much closer to it, and to what the trailers hyped, than the original Armiger, and much more worthy of being Noctis' LimitBreak skill.
** One of the much-lamented changes from ''Versus XIII'' was the removal of character switching in the main storyline. This was finally implemented in Patch 1.20.
** Players unsatisfied with the base game's BittersweetEnding can take solace in the alternate ending of the ''Episode Ignis'' DLC. [[spoiler:Ignis isn't blinded, he sends Ardyn into retreat by fighting and weakening him, and his short-lived alliance with Ravus sparks a peace treaty with Niflheim now that Ardyn is out of the way. While Noctis still enters the Crystal and emerges ten years later into the World of Ruin, he doesn't die defeating Ardyn at Insomnia, and goes into the throne room together with his friends, reaffirming the theme of brotherhood emphasized by the rest of the game (therefore addressing some accusations of the original ending having a BrokenAesop), and after restoring the light takes his place as king.]]
** The Royal Edition significantly expands the endgame [[spoiler:World of Ruin]] portion, one of the most base-breaking and heavily criticized portions of the game for how [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot underbaked]] it was.
** Some players didn't like that the FinalBoss was a DuelBoss fought one-on-one with Noctis, because the rest of the game, both in story and in gameplay, emphasized the friendship and teamwork of the party and the strength the four had together. The end of ''Episode Ardyn'' allows the player to fight a BonusBoss that is a recreation of the final battle from the boss's perspective, but this time Noctis' friends join in to help him -- it's not clear if it's meant to be a {{Retcon}} or a WhatIf, though.
** People who missed out on one or both of the [=DLC=] festivals (either missing the Moogle Chocobo one, which meant you didn't get the golden egg or missed the Assassin's Festival for playing and redeeming the egg for the extra costumes) were excited when in Patch 1.29 that Square allowed you the Master Assassin (Alair) Robes from ''Assassin's Creed'' that you could only get through those [=DLCs=] and in a specific manner ''Spider-Man ([=PS4=])'' style, particularly PC players, who never got to experience either festivals due to both ending before the PC port of the game was released.
** The cancelled season of [[WhatCouldHaveBeen DLC]]-turned-Novel, ''Dawn of the Future'', does a number of things.
*** Fleshing out numerous characters, including Aranea, Luna, Somnus, and even Iedolas. In addition to providing Luna with much needed backstory, it also shows that Luna, contrary to what the game originally implied, [[spoiler:did not actually know that Noctis would have to die to fulfill his destiny, and also has her [[TakeThatMe reject]] her ExtremeDoormat tendencies, two traits that made her very unpopular with fans. Likewise, while Somnus still caused Ardyn's [[DrivenToVillainy fall to villainy]], the novel version of ''Episode Ardyn'' shows that [[BothSidesHaveAPoint Somnus' criticisms of Ardyn's self-martyring methods weren't unwarranted]]]].
*** [[spoiler:For those who felt destiny was unfair or that the Astrals seemed like [[KarmaHoudini Karma Houdinis]] for being partly to blame for the main game's conflict, the happy ending of the novel is only made possible because characters chose not to go along with fate and defeating Bahamut becomes the main drive of the finale]].
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** [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/11/28/final-fantasy-xv-review IGN strikes again.]] While 8.2 is not a terrible score in and of itself, critics/detractors of the game are keen to point out that this is a lower score than what IGN gave ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'', a game that is one of the most polarizing in the series.
** [[https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/final-fantasy-15-review/1900-6416579/ GameSpot]] joins the club, having only awarded an 8.0. People have been quick to criticize both the perceived negative focus and the reviewer's claims of a shallow supporting cast -- a stark contrast to nearly every other review currently up as of this posting. [[note]]In this case, it's more that the reviewer claims Prompto, Ignis, and Gladiolus are shallow characters, since other reviewers note them as a highlight of the game. Characters such as Lunafreya and Iris have been more contentious with other critics.[[/note]]
** [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/11/28/final-fantasy-xv-review IGN strikes again.]] While 8.2 is not a terrible score in and of itself, critics/detractors of the game are keen to point out that this is a lower score than what IGN gave ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'', a game that is one of the most polarizing in the series.
** [[https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/final-fantasy-15-review/1900-6416579/ GameSpot]] joins the club, having only awarded an 8.0. People have been quick to criticize both the perceived negative focus and the reviewer's claims of a shallow supporting cast -- a stark contrast to nearly every other review currently up as of this posting. [[note]]In this case, it's more that the reviewer claims Prompto, Ignis, and Gladiolus are shallow characters, since other reviewers note them as a highlight of the game. Characters such as Lunafreya and Iris have been more contentious with other critics.[[/note]]
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation/FinalFantasy Here.]]
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* EstrogenBrigade: Many fans joke that ''FFXV'' is a Boyband Simulator and it certainly lives up to its nickname as it earned a large female-following while the other games tend to have a balanced divide between the genders. As shown in a [[https://www.nhk.or.jp/anime/ff/ranking/?fbclid=IwAR0xNHbKiB0QEFp0nuUWwXukbRl4A6t7uQXVkiUepCS2FjpPICkuNIDdwhU NHK poll]], a whopping 71.9% votes for ''FFXV'' came from women, the largest female-male ratio out of all of the games listed. The majority-male CastFullOfPrettyBoys combined with a large helping of Ho-Yay and a [[StrangledByTheRedString lackluster romance plot]] also attracted a ''ridiculous'' amount of Yaoi fangirls just shipping the main cast with each other, proven with a lot of slashy fanarts and fanfics all over the internet.
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* EstrogenBrigade: Many fans joke that ''FFXV'' is a Boyband Simulator and it certainly lives up to its nickname as it earned a large female-following while the other games tend to have a balanced divide between the genders. As shown in a [[https://www.nhk.or.jp/anime/ff/ranking/?fbclid=IwAR0xNHbKiB0QEFp0nuUWwXukbRl4A6t7uQXVkiUepCS2FjpPICkuNIDdwhU [[https://i.redd.it/cjnukmc120k41.png NHK poll]], a whopping 71.9% votes for ''FFXV'' came from women, the largest female-male ratio out of all of the games listed. The majority-male CastFullOfPrettyBoys combined with a large helping of Ho-Yay and a [[StrangledByTheRedString lackluster romance plot]] also attracted a ''ridiculous'' amount of Yaoi fangirls just shipping the main cast with each other, proven with a lot of slashy fanarts and fanfics all over the internet.
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* EstrogenBrigade: Many fans joke that ''FFXV'' is a Boyband Simulator and it certainly lives up to its nickname as it earned a large female-following while the other games tend to have a balanced divide between the genders. As shown in a [[https://www.nhk.or.jp/anime/ff/ranking/?fbclid=IwAR0xNHbKiB0QEFp0nuUWwXukbRl4A6t7uQXVkiUepCS2FjpPICkuNIDdwhU NHK poll]], a whopping 71.9% votes for ''FFXV'' came from women, the largest female-male ratio out of all of the games listed. The majority-male CastFullOfPrettyBoys combined with a large helping of Ho-Yay and a [[StrangledByTheRedString lackluster romance plot]] also attracted a ''ridiculous'' amount of Yaoi fangirls just shipping the main cast with each other, proven with a lot of slashy fanarts and fanfics all over the internet.
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* EvilIsSexy: From his design, personality, great performance from Darin De Paul, recognizable theme song and his tragic backstory which leads to many feeling sympathy for him, Ardyn is considered one of the best main villains in all of ''Final Fantasy'' for many fans, even those who didn't like ''XV''. Naturally, he pulled in a lot of fangirls as a result.
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* EvilIsSexy: From his design, personality, great performance from Darin De Paul, recognizable theme song song, and his tragic backstory which leads to many feeling sympathy for him, Ardyn is considered one of the best main villains in all of ''Final Fantasy'' for many fans, even those who didn't like ''XV''. Naturally, he pulled in a lot of fangirls as a result.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Due to Square's decision to make the game fully voiced in French and German, European sales have actually outpaced North American sales of the game.
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** Due to Square's decision to make the game fully voiced in French and German, European sales have actually outpaced North American sales of the game.
** Due to Square's decision to make the game fully voiced in French and German, European sales have actually outpaced North American sales of the game.
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* GoddamnedBoss: The Adamantoise superboss. In true ''Final Fantasy'' MarathonBoss fashion, the thing takes ages to kill (easily half an hour and upwards) and lacks any kind of phase change throughout the fight, meaning you'll spend a solid time block just to whittle down its health. The relatively-weak rewards for completing its sidequest aren't exactly incentive enough to challenge it except for bragging rights, and oddly you can't at any point perform a ColossusClimb on this city-sized beast.
** Hilariously [[AntiClimaxBoss inverted]] when you realize the beast is susceptible to the Ring of the Lucii's [[OneHitKill Alterna spell]], which can finish the fight in anything from ten minutes to ten seconds, depending on how lucky you are with the relatively low trigger probability. This has turned the Adamantoise into one of the most popular farming targets because it gives 50,000 XP per run and can drop two items that allow LimitBreak magic to be crafted (up to 24 charges). Alternatively, you can sell the stuff for up to 65,000 gil per run. Best of all, as long as you stop advancing the moment the battle actually begins, it can't even damage your party.
** Hilariously [[AntiClimaxBoss inverted]] when you realize the beast is susceptible to the Ring of the Lucii's [[OneHitKill Alterna spell]], which can finish the fight in anything from ten minutes to ten seconds, depending on how lucky you are with the relatively low trigger probability. This has turned the Adamantoise into one of the most popular farming targets because it gives 50,000 XP per run and can drop two items that allow LimitBreak magic to be crafted (up to 24 charges). Alternatively, you can sell the stuff for up to 65,000 gil per run. Best of all, as long as you stop advancing the moment the battle actually begins, it can't even damage your party.
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* GoddamnedBoss: The Adamantoise superboss. superboss gives 50,000 XP per run and can drop two items used for crafting LimitBreak magic or be sold for a hefty amount. In true ''Final Fantasy'' MarathonBoss fashion, the thing takes ages to kill (easily half an hour and upwards) and upwards), lacks any kind of phase change throughout the fight, and due to it's size, the camera [[CameraScrew spins around while it's moving]] meaning you'll spend a solid time block hours just to whittle fighting the camera while whittling down its health. The relatively-weak rewards for completing its sidequest aren't exactly incentive enough to challenge it except for bragging rights, health and oddly enough, you can't at any point perform a ColossusClimb on this city-sized beast.
** Hilariously [[AntiClimaxBoss inverted]] when you realize the beast is susceptible tobeast. This changed after the Ring of the Lucii's [[OneHitKill Alterna spell]], which spell]] was buffed that it has a relatively low probability to trigger on the beast, so the boss [[EasyLevelTrick can be cheesed]] this way and finish the fight in anything from ten minutes to ten seconds, under 10 minutes, depending on how lucky you are with the relatively low trigger probability. This has turned the Adamantoise into one of the most popular farming targets because it gives 50,000 XP per run and can drop two items that allow LimitBreak magic to be crafted (up to 24 charges). Alternatively, you can sell the stuff for up to 65,000 gil per run.one's luck. Best of all, as long as you stop advancing the moment the battle actually begins, it can't even damage your party.
** Hilariously [[AntiClimaxBoss inverted]] when you realize the beast is susceptible to
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* PlayerPunch: In Chapter 11, [[spoiler:Ardyn]] acts oblivious when Noctis chases him down and corners him. It's later revealed that the person you're attacking the entire time was [[spoiler:[[TomatoSurprise Prompto after Ardyn created an illusion to make them switch appearances]], tricking Noctis into throwing the former off the train.]]
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** In Chapter 11, [[spoiler:Ardyn]] acts oblivious when Noctis chases him down and corners him. It's later revealed that the person you're attacking the entire time was [[spoiler:[[TomatoSurprise Prompto after Ardyn created an illusion to make them switch appearances]], tricking Noctis into throwing the former off the train.]]
** In Chapter 11, [[spoiler:Ardyn]] acts oblivious when Noctis chases him down and corners him. It's later revealed that the person you're attacking the entire time was [[spoiler:[[TomatoSurprise Prompto after Ardyn created an illusion to make them switch appearances]], tricking Noctis into throwing the former off the train.]]
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* PolishedPort: Of a fashion. Nomura has stated that the game was beginning to outgrow the [=PS3=] hardware it was being developed for, so rather than compromise the scope of the title by cutting features and content, he proposed the game be moved to next-generation consoles.
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* PolishedPort: PolishedPort:
** Of a fashion. Nomura has stated that the game was beginning to outgrow the [=PS3=] hardware it was being developed for, so rather than compromise the scope of the title by cutting features and content, he proposed the game be moved to next-generation consoles.
** Of a fashion. Nomura has stated that the game was beginning to outgrow the [=PS3=] hardware it was being developed for, so rather than compromise the scope of the title by cutting features and content, he proposed the game be moved to next-generation consoles.
