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** The rumor that Dumbledore and Grindelwald's [[WordOfGay canonical romance]] would not be "explicitly" shown. This was immediately condemned by J.K. Rowling herself: a controversy created over an interview she wasn't in, that people were taking out of context in the first place, about a five film franchise that's only one installment in, and a film that they haven't even seen a trailer for yet?

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** The rumor that Dumbledore and Grindelwald's [[WordOfGay canonical romance]] would not be "explicitly" shown. This was immediately condemned by J.K. Rowling herself: a controversy created over an interview she wasn't in, that people were taking out of context in the first place, about a five film franchise that's only one installment in, and a film that they haven't even seen a trailer for yet?
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** The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite the allegations of domestic abuse that were made against him in 2016 has lit quite the fire on the internet, ''particularly'' in the wake of the "Me Too" movement and several high-profile actors and creators losing their jobs as a result of the backlash against them. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s responses in support of Depp's casting did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mentioned a recasting was considered).

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** The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite the allegations of domestic abuse that were made against him in 2016 has lit quite the fire on the internet, ''particularly'' in the wake of the "Me Too" movement and several high-profile actors and creators losing their jobs as a result of the backlash against them. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s Rowling's responses in support of Depp's casting did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mentioned a recasting was considered).
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** The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite the allegations of domestic abuse that were made against him in 2016 has lit quite the fire on the internet. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s responses in support of Depp's casting did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mentioned a recasting was considered).

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** The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite the allegations of domestic abuse that were made against him in 2016 has lit quite the fire on the internet.internet, ''particularly'' in the wake of the "Me Too" movement and several high-profile actors and creators losing their jobs as a result of the backlash against them. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s responses in support of Depp's casting did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mentioned a recasting was considered).
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* HilariousInHindsight: With Creator/JudeLaw cast as Dumbledore, this means that [[Creator/ColinFarrell all]] [[Creator/JohnnyDepp three]] of Creator/HeathLedger's alternate actors from ''Film/TheImaginariumOfDoctorParnassus'' are now part of the Wizarding World franchise. Even more amusingly, [[ScrewYourself Law's character has a canonical crush on a character portrayed by both Depp and Farrell]].
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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Promotional images show the cast in muted period-appropriate dress — except for Grindelwald, who looks like he's dressed as the frontman of an eighties Punk Rock band.

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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Promotional images show the cast in muted period-appropriate dress — except for Grindelwald, who looks like he's dressed as the frontman of an eighties Punk Rock band. However, his look appears to have changed as of the first trailer (see AuthorsSavingThrow above).
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Grindelwald's [[WTHCostumingDepartment wacky]] [[FashionVictimVillain dyed hair and transparent moustache]] was a subject of much derision in the first film, here it's been upgraded to a much more authentically creepy bone-white shaggy haircut and BeardOfEvil.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Grindelwald's [[WTHCostumingDepartment wacky]] [[FashionVictimVillain dyed hair and transparent moustache]] was a subject of much derision in the first film, here it's been upgraded to a much more authentically creepy bone-white shaggy haircut and BeardOfEvil. It's {{downplayed}}, as some believe that this is his look while under MACUSA custody, and will revert back to his original look after he escapes.
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As per the conversation on the discussion page, I decided to remove this for now. Let me know if anyone disagrees, however.


** A scene showing what appear to be Ministry officials Apparating onto Hogwarts grounds contradicts information from the novels that Apparation is impossible at Hogwarts (unless you're the Headmaster according to the movies).
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** A scene showing what appear to be Ministry officials Apparating onto Hogwarts grounds contradicts information from the novels that Apparation is impossible at Hogwarts (unless you're the Headmaster according to the movies).
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Grindelwald's [[WTHCostumingDepartment wacky]] [[FashionVictimVillain dyed hair and transparent moustache]] was a subject of much derision in the first film, here it's been upgraded to a much more authentically creepy bone-white shaggy haircut and BeardOfEvil.
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* {{HSQ}}: [[spoiler: The revelation that Leta and Credence are half-siblings!]]
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if it's word of gay, then it's canon.


** The rumor that Dumbledore and Grindelwald's [[WordOfGay non-canonical romance]] would not be "explicitly" shown. This was immediately condemned by J.K. Rowling herself: a controversy created over an interview she wasn't in, that people were taking out of context in the first place, about a five film franchise that's only one installment in, and a film that they haven't even seen a trailer for yet?

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** The rumor that Dumbledore and Grindelwald's [[WordOfGay non-canonical canonical romance]] would not be "explicitly" shown. This was immediately condemned by J.K. Rowling herself: a controversy created over an interview she wasn't in, that people were taking out of context in the first place, about a five film franchise that's only one installment in, and a film that they haven't even seen a trailer for yet?

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** The rumor that Dumbledore and Grindelwald's [[WordOfGay non-canonical romance]] would not be "explicitly" shown.
*** Which was immediately condemned by J.K. Rowling herself: a controversy created over an interview she wasn't in, that people were taking out of context in the first place, about a five film franchise that's only one installment in, and a film that they haven't even seen a trailer for yet?

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** The rumor that Dumbledore and Grindelwald's [[WordOfGay non-canonical romance]] would not be "explicitly" shown.
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shown. This was immediately condemned by J.K. Rowling herself: a controversy created over an interview she wasn't in, that people were taking out of context in the first place, about a five film franchise that's only one installment in, and a film that they haven't even seen a trailer for yet?
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** The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite the allegations of domestic abuse that were made against him in 2016 has lit quite the fire on the internet. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s responses in support of Depp's casting did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mentioned a recasting was considered). Not that Depp should be recast, as he was cleared by the LAPD.

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** The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite the allegations of domestic abuse that were made against him in 2016 has lit quite the fire on the internet. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s responses in support of Depp's casting did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mentioned a recasting was considered). Not that Depp should be recast, as he was cleared by the LAPD. \n



*** Which was immediately condemned by J.K. Rowling herself, and rightfully so: a controversy created over an interview she wasn't in, that people were taking out of context in the first place, about a five film franchise that's only one installment in, and a film that they haven't even seen a trailer for yet?

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*** Which was immediately condemned by J.K. Rowling herself, and rightfully so: herself: a controversy created over an interview she wasn't in, that people were taking out of context in the first place, about a five film franchise that's only one installment in, and a film that they haven't even seen a trailer for yet?
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** The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite the allegations of domestic abuse that were made against him in 2016 has lit quite the fire on the internet. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s responses in support of Depp's casting did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mentioned a recasting was considered).

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** The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite the allegations of domestic abuse that were made against him in 2016 has lit quite the fire on the internet. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s responses in support of Depp's casting did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mentioned a recasting was considered). Not that Depp should be recast, as he was cleared by the LAPD.
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** The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite the allegations of domestic abuse that were made against him in 2016 has lit quite the fire on the internet. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s responses in support of Depp's casting did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mention a recasting was considered).

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** The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite the allegations of domestic abuse that were made against him in 2016 has lit quite the fire on the internet. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s responses in support of Depp's casting did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mention mentioned a recasting was considered).
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** The announcement that Dumbledore and Grindelwald's [[WordOfGay non-canonical romance]] would not be "explicitly" shown.

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** The announcement rumor that Dumbledore and Grindelwald's [[WordOfGay non-canonical romance]] would not be "explicitly" shown.
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*** Which was immediately condemned by J.K. Rowling herself, and rightfully so: a controversy created over an interview she wasn't in, that people were taking out of context in the first place, about a five film franchise that's only one installment in, and film that they haven't even seen a trailer for yet?

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*** Which was immediately condemned by J.K. Rowling herself, and rightfully so: a controversy created over an interview she wasn't in, that people were taking out of context in the first place, about a five film franchise that's only one installment in, and a film that they haven't even seen a trailer for yet?
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***Which was immediately condemned by J.K. Rowling herself, and rightfully so: a controversy created over an interview she wasn't in, that people were taking out of context in the first place, about a five film franchise that's only one installment in, and film that they haven't even seen a trailer for yet?
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beh. Not really important.


** The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite the allegations of domestic abuse that were made against him in 2016 (though later withdrawn) has lit quite the fire on the internet. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s responses in support of Depp's casting did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mention a recasting was considered).

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** The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite the allegations of domestic abuse that were made against him in 2016 (though later withdrawn) has lit quite the fire on the internet. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s responses in support of Depp's casting did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mention a recasting was considered).
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** The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite his allegations of domestic abuse has lit quite the fire on the Internet. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s responses did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mention a recasting was considered).

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** The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite his the allegations of domestic abuse that were made against him in 2016 (though later withdrawn) has lit quite the fire on the Internet.internet. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s responses in support of Depp's casting did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mention a recasting was considered).

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* InternetBackdraft: The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite his allegations of domestic abuse has lit quite the fire on the Internet. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s responses did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mention a recasting was considered).

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** The announcement that Dumbledore and Grindelwald's [[WordOfGay non-canonical romance]] would not be "explicitly" shown.
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* InternetBackdraft: The return of Johnny Depp as Grindelwald despite his allegations of domestic abuse has lit quite the fire on the Internet. David Yates and J.K. Rowling’s responses did little to help assuage the backlash either (particularly after Rowling mention a recasting was considered).
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The growing "Me too" movement starting in 2017 that saw many actors' careers affected by accusations of violence against women caused a lot of scrutiny of why Johnny Depp was still holding on to his role in this film after the accusations of abuse from his ex-wife Amber Heard. JK Rowling didn't help with her attempt to address the issue, basically saying that because she's never seen Depp hit a woman right in front of her, she's comfortable believing he'd never do it.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The growing "Me too" movement starting in 2017 that saw many actors' careers affected by accusations of violence against women caused a lot of scrutiny of why Johnny Depp was still holding on to his role in this film after the accusations of abuse from his ex-wife Amber Heard. JK Rowling didn't help with her attempt to address the issue, basically saying that because she's never seen Depp hit a woman right in front of her, she's comfortable believing he'd never do it.
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* WTHCastingAgency / WTHCostumingDepartment: On top of the controversy surrounding Johnny Depp’s casting and the character design’s lukewarm reception in the previous film, promotional images show the cast in muted period-appropriate dress — except for Grindelwald, who looks like he's dressed as the frontman of an eighties Punk Rock band.

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* WTHCastingAgency / WTHCostumingDepartment: On top of the controversy surrounding Johnny Depp’s casting and the character design’s lukewarm reception in the previous film, promotional Promotional images show the cast in muted period-appropriate dress — except for Grindelwald, who looks like he's dressed as the frontman of an eighties Punk Rock band.
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** Why are people surprised? You ''have'' seen what Dumbledore wears, yes? Can any of his clothes be considered "normal"? No - they look like someone who's been dunked repeatedly in several pots of paint!
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** Why are people surprised? You ''have'' seen what Dumbledore wears, yes? Can any of his clothes be considered "normal"? No - they look like someone who's been dunked repeatedly in several pots of paint!

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* WTHCastingAgency / WTHCostumingDepartment: On top of the controversy surrounding Johnny Depp’s casting and the character design’s lukewarm reception in the previous film, promotional images show the cast in muted period-appropriate dress — except for Grindelwald, who’s dressed like the frontman of an eighties Punk Rock band.

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* WTHCastingAgency / WTHCostumingDepartment: On top of the controversy surrounding Johnny Depp’s casting and the character design’s lukewarm reception in the previous film, promotional images show the cast in muted period-appropriate dress — except for Grindelwald, who’s who looks like he's dressed like as the frontman of an eighties Punk Rock band.band.
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* WTHCastingAgency/WTHCostumingDepartment: On top of the controversy surrounding Johnny Depp’s casting and the character design’s lukewarm reception in the previous film, promotional images show the cast in muted period-appropriate dress — except for Grindelwald, who’s dressed like the frontman of an eighties Punk Rock band.

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* WTHCastingAgency/WTHCostumingDepartment: On top of the controversy surrounding Johnny Depp’s casting and the character design’s lukewarm reception in the previous film, promotional images show the cast in muted period-appropriate dress — except for Grindelwald, who’s dressed like the frontman of an eighties Punk Rock band.

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