History YMMV / FamilyGuyS5E4SavingPrivateBrian

* BrokenBase: Vern and Johnny being shot to death by Stewie. At the time, they had acquired a significant hatedom for being annoying and having a bland routine. The creators of the show met those fans by [[TakeThatScrappy killing them both off]] in this episode (although they have sporadically made cameos as ghosts since). Fans who defend their style of comedy say their murders came across as [[AlasPoorScrappy mean-spirited]], and that there were other options for retiring them and their acts in case they got too tiresome.

* BrokenBase: Vern and Johnny being shot to death by Stewie. At the time, they had acquired a significant hatedom for being annoying and having a bland routine. The creators of the show met those fans by [[TakeThatScrappy killing them both off]] in this episode (although they have sporadically made cameos since). Fans who defend their style of comedy say their murders came across as [[AlasPoorScrappy mean-spirited]], and that there were other options for retiring them and their acts in case they got too tiresome.

* WereStillRelevantDammit: Music/MarilynManson was obviously just the first controversial musician popular with teens that the writers could think of off the top of their heads, as his status as TheNewRockAndRoll had long-since past by 2006, thanks to MoralGuardians {{misblam|ed}}ing him for the UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} massacre (which, most egregiously, occurred ''at the beginning of the show's original run''!) and his appearance in ''Film/BowlingForColumbine'' later revealed his HiddenDepths.

* HarsherInHindsight: Music/MarilynManson encouraging Chris to be a responsible citizen ends up being more uncomfortable when Manson himself would be accused of sexual misconduct and abuse by Creator/EvanRachelWood and [[Creator/EsmeBianco several]] [[Music/PhoebeBridgers other]] [[Music/WolfAlice women]] a good 15 years later.

* HarsherInHindsight: Music/MarilynManson encouraging Chris to be a responsible citizen ended up being more uncomfortable when Manson himself would be accused of sexual misconduct and abuse by Creator/EvanRachelWood and [[Creator/EsmeBianco several]] [[Music/PhoebeBridgers other]] [[Music/WolfAlice women]] over a decade later.

* HarsherInHindsight: Manson later got #[=MeToo=]'d by Creator/EvanRachelWood in 2021.

* HarsherInHindsight: This episode will not age well after Manson was #[=MeToo=]'d by Creator/EvanRachelWood in 2021.

* WereStillRelevantDammit: Music/MarilynManson was obviously just the first controversial musician popular with teens that the writers could think of off the top of their heads, as his status as TheNewRockAndRoll had long-since past by 2006, thanks to MoralGuardians {{misblam|ed}}ing him for the UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} massacre (which, most egregiously, occurred ''at the beginning of the show's original run''!) and his appearance in ''Film/BowlingForColumbine'' later revealed his HiddenDepths.

* HarsherInHindsight: This episode will not age well after Manson was MeToo'd by Creator/EvanRachelWood in 2021.

* BrokenBase: Vern and Johnny being shot to death by Stewie. At the time, they had acquired a significant hatedom for being annoying and having a bland routine. The creators of the show met those fans by [[TakeThatScrappy killing them both off]] in this episode (although they do make one final appearance in "Back to the Woods"). Fans who defend their style of comedy say their murders came across as [[AlasPoorScrappy mean-spirited]], and that there were other options for retiring them and their acts in case they got too tiresome.

* WereStillRelevantDammit: By 2006, Music/MarilynManson was nowhere near as popular as he had been in the late 90s, and his status as TheNewRockAndRoll had long-since past, especially after appearance in ''Film/BowlingForColumbine'' revealed his HiddenDepths. His being synonymous with edgy, dangerous music seems to have just been the writers using the first recently controversial musician off the top of their heads. Subverted when Lois finds the Music/WuTangClan CD in Chris's room, but even then, the song lyrics she reads are made up.

* BrokenBase: Vern and Johnny being shot to death by Stewie. At the time, they had acquired a significant hatedom for being annoying and having a bland routine. The creators of the show met those fans by [[TakeThatScrappy killing them both off]] in this episode (although they do make one final appearance in "Back to the Woods"). However, fans who defend their style of comedy say their murders came across as [[AlasPoorScrappy mean-spirited]], and that there were other options for retiring them and their acts in case they got too tiresome.

* BrokenBase: Vern and Johnny being shot to death by Stewie. At the time, they had acquired a significant hatedom for being annoying and bland. The creators of the show eventually met those fans by [[TakeThatScrappy killing them both off]] (although they do one final routine in "Back to the Woods"). However, fans who defend their style of comedy say their murders came across as [[AlasPoorScrappy mean-spirited]], and that there were other options for retiring them and their acts in case they got too tiresome.

* BrokenBase: Vern and Johnny being shot to death by Stewie. At the time, they had acquired a significant hatedom for being annoying and bland. The creators of the show eventually met those fans by [[TakeThatScrappy killing them both off]] (although they do one final routine in "Peter's Got Woods"). However, fans who defend their style of comedy say their murders came across as [[AlasPoorScrappy mean-spirited]], and that there were other options for retiring them and their acts in case they got too tiresome.

* BrokenBase: Vern and Johnny being shot to death by Stewie. At the time, they had acquired a significant hatedom for being annoying and bland. The creators of the show eventually met those fans by [[TakeThatScrappy killing them both off this way]] (although they do one final routine in "Peter's Got Woods"). However, fans who defend their style of comedy say their murders came across as [[AlasPoorScrappy mean-spirited]], and that there were other options for retiring them and their acts in case they got too tiresome.

* BrokenBase: Vern and Johnny being shot to death by Stewie. At the time, they were were severely hated by fans for being very annoying and bland. The creators of the show eventually met them by deciding to [[TakeThatScrappy kill them both off this way]] (although they do one final routine in "Peter's Got Woods"). However, fans who defend their style of comedy say their murders came across as [[AlasPoorScrappy mean-spirited]], and that there were other options for retiring them and their acts in case they got too tiresome.

* TakeThatScrappy: Vern and Johnny were severely hated by fans for being very annoying and bland. Because of that, the creators of the show eventually decided to kill them both off and treated fans to seeing them meet their demise at the hands of Stewie. In spite of this, they appear in the afterlife for one final appearance in "Peter's Got Woods".

* TakeThatScrappy: Vern and Johnny were severely hated by fans for being very annoying and bland. Because of that, the creators of the show eventually decided to kill them both off and treated fans to seeing them meet their demise at the hands of Stewie.

* WereStillRelevantDammit: By 2006, Music/MarilynManson was nowhere near as popular as he had been in the late 90s, and his status as TheNewRockAndRoll had long-since past, especially after appearance in ''Film/BowlingForColumbine'' revealed his HiddenDepths. His being synonymous with edgy, dangerous music seems to have just been the writers using the first recently controversial musician off the top of their heads. Subverted when Lois finds the Wu-Tang Clan CD in Chris's room, but even then, the song lyrics she reads are made up.

* TakeThatScrappy: Vern and Johnny, who are characters that are two vaudeville actors placed in the show as a gag, were severely hated by fans for being very annoying and bland. They got so much hate that the creators of the show eventually decided to kill them both off and treated fans to seeing them meet their demise at the hands of Stewie.

* TakeThatScrappy: Stewie shooting [[spoiler:Vern and Johnny]].