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* OldShame: EXID sat down and watched their old [=MVs=] for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXiHJZSxVO8 "I Feel Good" and "Every Night"]]. Although they didn't speak poorly of the songs, even they had to admit they had no idea what the hell the plot was in "Every Night." Solji even partially name-drops this trope when she says "Every Night" is their "shameful past."
* ReplacementScrappy: Averted with Hyelin and Solji. They were brought in after Yuji, Dami and Haeryung departed. but they have been well-received by fans because they brought strong vocal talents to the group (especially Solji), as well as for their humor and other skills.
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* BreakawayPopHit: "Up & Down" broke away with rocket-propelled force after Hani's fancam.

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* BreakawayPopHit: "Up & Down" broke away with rocket-propelled force after Hani's fancam.----



* JustForFun/CounterpartComparison: Although purely coincidental, it can be hard not to see parallels between [=EXID=] and Music/FifthHarmony. Their breakthrough hits were saxophone-heavy, brassy pop songs ("Up & Down" for the former, "Worth It" for the latter). At least one music video in either group's portfolio intriguingly features women turning the tables on men in terms of workplace harassment ("Ah Yeah," "Worth It"). They also had a few more hits in the vein of their breakthrough songs, until they were criticized for following the same formula too closely ("Work From Home" post-"Worth It," "Ah Yeah" and "Hot Pink" post-"Up & Down"). Some of the photoshoots are even [[https://www.billboard.com/files/styles/article_main_image/public/media/fifth-harmony-bb3-2015-billboard-02-650.jpg uncannily]] [[https://channel-korea.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/exid-9.jpg similar]] for these two groups.



* TheReveal: Among the first K-Pop-related news of 2016 was an article by the Korean tabloid ''Dispatch'' reporting that Hani was dating Xia Junsu of JYJ and formerly [[Music/DongBangShinKi DBSK]], and that they had been in a relationship for the previous six months.
* SurprisinglyGoodEnglish: Hyerin's sudden exclamation of "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfGMlMEZr18 I'm Jenny]]."

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* TheReveal: Among the first K-Pop-related news of 2016 was an article by the Korean tabloid ''Dispatch'' reporting that Hani was dating Xia Junsu of JYJ and formerly [[Music/DongBangShinKi DBSK]], and that they had been in a relationship for the previous six months.
* SurprisinglyGoodEnglish: Hyerin's sudden exclamation of "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfGMlMEZr18 I'm Jenny]]."
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* ReplacementScrappy: Averted with Hyelin and Solji. They were brought in after Yuji, Dami and Haeryung departed. but they have been well-received by fans because they brought strong vocal talents to the group (Especially Solji), as well as for their humor and other skills.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Averted with Hyelin and Solji. They were brought in after Yuji, Dami and Haeryung departed. but they have been well-received by fans because they brought strong vocal talents to the group (Especially (especially Solji), as well as for their humor and other skills.
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* JustForFun/CounterpartComparison: Although purely coincidental, it can be hard not to see parallels between [=EXID=] and Music/FifthHarmony. Their breakthrough hits were saxophone-heavy, brassy pop songs ("Up & Down" for the former, "Worth It" for the latter). At least one music video in either's group portfolio intriguingly features women turning the tables on men in terms of workplace harassment ("Ah Yeah," "Worth It"). They also had a few more hits in the vein of their breakthrough songs, until they were criticized for following the same formula too closely ("Work From Home" post-"Worth It," "Ah Yeah" and "Hot Pink" post-"Up & Down"). Some of the photoshoots are even [[https://www.billboard.com/files/styles/article_main_image/public/media/fifth-harmony-bb3-2015-billboard-02-650.jpg uncannily]] [[https://channel-korea.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/exid-9.jpg similar]] for these two groups.

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* JustForFun/CounterpartComparison: Although purely coincidental, it can be hard not to see parallels between [=EXID=] and Music/FifthHarmony. Their breakthrough hits were saxophone-heavy, brassy pop songs ("Up & Down" for the former, "Worth It" for the latter). At least one music video in either's group either group's portfolio intriguingly features women turning the tables on men in terms of workplace harassment ("Ah Yeah," "Worth It"). They also had a few more hits in the vein of their breakthrough songs, until they were criticized for following the same formula too closely ("Work From Home" post-"Worth It," "Ah Yeah" and "Hot Pink" post-"Up & Down"). Some of the photoshoots are even [[https://www.billboard.com/files/styles/article_main_image/public/media/fifth-harmony-bb3-2015-billboard-02-650.jpg uncannily]] [[https://channel-korea.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/exid-9.jpg similar]] for these two groups.
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* JustForFun/CounterpartComparison: Although purely coincidental, it can be hard not to see parallels between [=EXID=] and Music/FifthHarmony. Their breakthrough hits were saxophone-heavy, brassy pop songs ("Up & Down" for the former, "Worth It" for the latter). At least one music video in either's group portfolio intriguingly features women turning the tables on men in terms of workplace harassment ("Ah Yeah," "Worth It"). They also had a few more hits in the vein of their breakthrough songs, until they were criticized for following the same formula too closely ("Work From Home" post-"Worth It," "Ah Yeah" and "Hot Pink" post-"Up & Down"). Some of the photoshoots are even [[https://www.billboard.com/files/styles/article_main_image/public/media/fifth-harmony-bb3-2015-billboard-02-650.jpg uncannily]] [[https://channel-korea.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/exid-9.jpg similar]] for these two groups.
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Internet Backdraft is now Flame Bait and being dewicked per TRS.


* InternetBackdraft: Hani was the recipient of this in early 2016. Firstly it was because of her dating Junsu, but it quickly changed and [[http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.ca/2016/04/hani-cries-again-in-star-king-preview.html became about her unfortunate habit of bursting into tears whenever she's on a variety show.]] Fans were sympathetic at first, but after the ''eleventh'' time, they began to tire of it, claiming that she was doing it just for attention. That said, Cassiopea (DBSK/JYJ fans) are not without blame. Cassiopea are notoriously known as perhaps the worst K-pop fandom, and they have a huge presence online. The backlash towards her tearing started ''because'' she was revealed to be dating Junsu, but also because as many have pointed out, idols cry all the time in stage and it's often seen as endearing (aegyo).
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* FandomRivalry: A mild one with Elvis, fans of AOA, their closest contemporary, having almost parallel careers, both had breakthroughs in 2014 and produced extremely popular K-Pop "It Girls". (Hani and Seolhyun)

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* FandomRivalry: A mild one with Elvis, fans of AOA, their closest contemporary, having almost parallel careers, both debuted in 2012, had breakthroughs in 2014 and produced extremely popular K-Pop "It Girls". (Hani and Seolhyun)
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* FandomRivalry: A mild one with Elvis, fans of AOA, their closest contemporary, having almost parallel careers, with a breakthrough in 2014 and producing an extremely popular K-Pop "It Girl". (Hani and Seolhyun)

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* FandomRivalry: A mild one with Elvis, fans of AOA, their closest contemporary, having almost parallel careers, with a breakthrough both had breakthroughs in 2014 and producing an produced extremely popular K-Pop "It Girl".Girls". (Hani and Seolhyun)
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* FandomRivalry: A mild one with Elvis, fans of AOA, their closest contemporary, having almost parallel careers, with a breakthrough in 2014 and producing an extremely popular K-Pop "It Girl". (Hani and Seolhyun)
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* TheReveal: Among the first K-Pop-related news of 2016 was an article by the Korean tabloid ''Dispatch'' reporting that Hani was dating Xia Junsu of JYJ and formerly [[DongBangShinKi DBSK]], and that they had been in a relationship for the previous six months.

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* TheReveal: Among the first K-Pop-related news of 2016 was an article by the Korean tabloid ''Dispatch'' reporting that Hani was dating Xia Junsu of JYJ and formerly [[DongBangShinKi [[Music/DongBangShinKi DBSK]], and that they had been in a relationship for the previous six months.
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* InternetBackdraft: Hani's getting one. Firstly it was because of her dating Junsu, but it quickly changed and [[http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.ca/2016/04/hani-cries-again-in-star-king-preview.html became about her unfortunate habit of bursting into tears whenever she's on a variety show.]] Fans were sympathetic at first, but after the ''eleventh'' time... That said, Cassiopea is not without blame. Cassiopea is notoriously known as the absolute worst K-pop fandom, and they have huge presence online. The backlash towards her tearing started ''because'' she was revealed to be dating Junsu, because as many have pointed out, idols cry all the time in stage and it's often seen as endearing (aegyo).

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* InternetBackdraft: Hani's getting one.Hani was the recipient of this in early 2016. Firstly it was because of her dating Junsu, but it quickly changed and [[http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.ca/2016/04/hani-cries-again-in-star-king-preview.html became about her unfortunate habit of bursting into tears whenever she's on a variety show.]] Fans were sympathetic at first, but after the ''eleventh'' time... time, they began to tire of it, claiming that she was doing it just for attention. That said, Cassiopea is (DBSK/JYJ fans) are not without blame. Cassiopea is are notoriously known as perhaps the absolute worst K-pop fandom, and they have a huge presence online. The backlash towards her tearing started ''because'' she was revealed to be dating Junsu, but also because as many have pointed out, idols cry all the time in stage and it's often seen as endearing (aegyo).



* TheReveal: Among the first K-Pop-related news of 2016 was an article by the Korean tabloid ''Dispatch'' reporting that Hani is dating Xia Junsu of JYJ and formerly [[DongBangShinKi DBSK]], and that they have been in a relationship for the previous six months.

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* TheReveal: Among the first K-Pop-related news of 2016 was an article by the Korean tabloid ''Dispatch'' reporting that Hani is was dating Xia Junsu of JYJ and formerly [[DongBangShinKi DBSK]], and that they have had been in a relationship for the previous six months.
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* InternetBackdraft: Hani's getting one. Firstly it was because of her dating Junsu, but it quickly changed and [[http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.ca/2016/04/hani-cries-again-in-star-king-preview.html became about her unfortunate habit of bursting into tears whenever she's on a variety show.]] Fans were sympathetic at first, but after the ''eleventh'' time... That said, Cassiopea is not without blame. Cassiopea is notoriously known as the absolute worst K-pop fandom, and they have huge presence online. The backlash towards her tearing started *because* she was revealed to be dating Junsu, because as many have pointed out, idols cry all the time in stage and it's often seen as endearing (aegyo).

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* InternetBackdraft: Hani's getting one. Firstly it was because of her dating Junsu, but it quickly changed and [[http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.ca/2016/04/hani-cries-again-in-star-king-preview.html became about her unfortunate habit of bursting into tears whenever she's on a variety show.]] Fans were sympathetic at first, but after the ''eleventh'' time... That said, Cassiopea is not without blame. Cassiopea is notoriously known as the absolute worst K-pop fandom, and they have huge presence online. The backlash towards her tearing started *because* ''because'' she was revealed to be dating Junsu, because as many have pointed out, idols cry all the time in stage and it's often seen as endearing (aegyo).
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* InternetBackdraft: Hani's getting one. Firstly it was because of her dating Junsu, but it quickly changed and [[http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.ca/2016/04/hani-cries-again-in-star-king-preview.html became about her unfortunate habit of bursting into tears whenever she's on a variety show.]] Fans were sympathetic at first, but after the ''eleventh'' time...

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* InternetBackdraft: Hani's getting one. Firstly it was because of her dating Junsu, but it quickly changed and [[http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.ca/2016/04/hani-cries-again-in-star-king-preview.html became about her unfortunate habit of bursting into tears whenever she's on a variety show.]] Fans were sympathetic at first, but after the ''eleventh'' time... That said, Cassiopea is not without blame. Cassiopea is notoriously known as the absolute worst K-pop fandom, and they have huge presence online. The backlash towards her tearing started *because* she was revealed to be dating Junsu, because as many have pointed out, idols cry all the time in stage and it's often seen as endearing (aegyo).

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* BreakawayPopHit: "Up & Down" broke away with rocket-propelled force after Hani's fancam.



** After [[https://streamable.com/6g5g?t=2.2 this incident]], the internet has fallen in love with Hyelin and potatoes

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** After [[https://streamable.com/6g5g?t=2.2 this incident]], the internet has fallen in love with Hyelin and potatoespotatoes.
* EpicRiff: The saxophone riff in "Up & Down."



* TheReveal: Among the first K-Pop-related news of 2016 was an article by the Korean tabloid ''Dispatch'' reporting that Hani is dating Xia Junsu of JYJ and formerly [[DongBangShinKi DBSK]], and that they have been in a relationship for the previous six months.

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* TheReveal: Among the first K-Pop-related news of 2016 was an article by the Korean tabloid ''Dispatch'' reporting that Hani is dating Xia Junsu of JYJ and formerly [[DongBangShinKi DBSK]], and that they have been in a relationship for the previous six months.months.
* SurprisinglyGoodEnglish: Hyerin's sudden exclamation of "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfGMlMEZr18 I'm Jenny]]."
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* InternetBackdraft: Hani's getting one. Firstly it was because of her dating Junsu, but it quickly changed and [[http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.ca/2016/04/hani-cries-again-in-star-king-preview.html became about her unfortunate habit of bursting into tears whenever she's on a variety show.]] Fans were sympathetic at first, but after the ''eleventh'' time...
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** Hani and her curlers for her bangs
** After [[https://streamable.com/6g5g?t=2.2 this incident]], the internet has fallen in love with Hyelin and potatoes
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* TheReveal: Among the first K-Pop-related news of 2016 was an article by the Korean tabloid ''Dispatch'' reporting that Hani is dating Xia Junsu of JYJ and formerly [[DongBangShinKi DBSK]].

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* TheReveal: Among the first K-Pop-related news of 2016 was an article by the Korean tabloid ''Dispatch'' reporting that Hani is dating Xia Junsu of JYJ and formerly [[DongBangShinKi DBSK]].DBSK]], and that they have been in a relationship for the previous six months.
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* TheReveal: Among the first K-Pop-related news of 2016 was the an article by the Korean tabloid ''Dispatch'' reporting that Hani is dating Xia Junsu of JYJ and formerly [[DongBangShinKi DBSK]].

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* TheReveal: Among the first K-Pop-related news of 2016 was the an article by the Korean tabloid ''Dispatch'' reporting that Hani is dating Xia Junsu of JYJ and formerly [[DongBangShinKi DBSK]].
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* ReplacementScrappy: Averted with Hyelin and Solji. They were brought in after Yuji, Dami and Haeryung departed. but they have been well-received by fans because they brought strong vocal talents to the group (Especially Solji), as well as for their humor and other skills.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Averted with Hyelin and Solji. They were brought in after Yuji, Dami and Haeryung departed. but they have been well-received by fans because they brought strong vocal talents to the group (Especially Solji), as well as for their humor and other skills.skills.
* TheReveal: Among the first K-Pop-related news of 2016 was the an article by the Korean tabloid ''Dispatch'' reporting that Hani is dating Xia Junsu of JYJ and formerly [[DongBangShinKi DBSK]].
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* OldShame: EXID sat down and watched their old [=MVs=] for [["I Feel Good" and "Every Night" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXiHJZSxVO8]]. Although they didn't speak poorly of the songs, even they had to admit they had no idea what the hell the plot was in "Every Night." Solji even partially name-drops this trope when she says "Every Night" is their "shameful past."

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* OldShame: EXID sat down and watched their old [=MVs=] for [["I Feel Good" and "Every Night" https://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXiHJZSxVO8]].com/watch?v=yXiHJZSxVO8 "I Feel Good" and "Every Night"]]. Although they didn't speak poorly of the songs, even they had to admit they had no idea what the hell the plot was in "Every Night." Solji even partially name-drops this trope when she says "Every Night" is their "shameful past."
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* OldShame: EXID sat down and watched their old MVs for [["I Feel Good" and "Every Night" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXiHJZSxVO8]]. Although they didn't speak poorly of the songs, even they had to admit they had no idea what the hell the plot was in "Every Night." Solji even partially name-drops this trope when she says "Every Night" is their "shameful past."

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* OldShame: EXID sat down and watched their old MVs [=MVs=] for [["I Feel Good" and "Every Night" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXiHJZSxVO8]]. Although they didn't speak poorly of the songs, even they had to admit they had no idea what the hell the plot was in "Every Night." Solji even partially name-drops this trope when she says "Every Night" is their "shameful past."
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* OldShame: EXID sat down and watched their old MVs for [["I Feel Good" and "Every Night" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXiHJZSxVO8]]. Although they didn't speak poorly of the songs, even they had to admit they had no idea what the hell the plot was in "Every Night." Solji even partially name-drops this trope when she says "Every Night" is their "shameful past."
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* ReplacementScrappy: Hyelin and Solji were brought in after Yuji, Dami and Haeryung departed. They have both since then brought strong vocal talents to the group, as well as being well-received by fans for their humor and other skills.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Averted with Hyelin and Solji Solji. They were brought in after Yuji, Dami and Haeryung departed. They but they have both since then been well-received by fans because they brought strong vocal talents to the group, group (Especially Solji), as well as being well-received by fans for their humor and other skills.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Hyelin and Solji were brought in after Yuji, Dami and Haeryung departed. They have both since then brought strong vocal talents to the group, as well as being well-received by fans for their humor and other skills.

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