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* NewerThanTheyThink: Broly is not a brute who only screams "[[SayMyName Kakarot!!!]]" in this movie. He actually has plenty of lines in this film - most prominently "You, Kakarot, I choose ''you'' to be the first of my victims!". In fact, the time he does yell "Kakarot!" is when under the influence of his slave crown and meant as a sign that it's beginning to short-circuit, not in his normal state of mind where he is perfectly well-spoken. That is a result of the {{Flanderization}} in the sequel, ''Anime/DragonBallZBrolySecondComing'', and [[WolverinePublicity his many video game appearances thereafter]] (many of which were likely [[AudienceColoringAdaptation influenced by]] ''Second Coming'').

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* NewerThanTheyThink: Broly is not a brute who only screams "[[SayMyName Kakarot!!!]]" in this movie. He actually has plenty of lines in this film - most prominently "You, Kakarot, I choose ''you'' to be the first of my victims!". In fact, the time he does yell "Kakarot!" is when under the influence of his slave crown and meant as a sign that it's beginning to short-circuit, not '''not''' in his normal state of mind where he is perfectly well-spoken. That is a result of the {{Flanderization}} in the sequel, ''Anime/DragonBallZBrolySecondComing'', and [[WolverinePublicity his many video game appearances thereafter]] (many of which were likely [[AudienceColoringAdaptation influenced by]] ''Second Coming'').
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* NewerThanTheyThink: Broly is not a brute who only screams "[[SayMyName Kakarot!!!]]" in this movie. He actually has plenty of lines in this film - most prominently "You, Kakarot, I choose ''you'' to be the first of my victims!". That is a result of the {{Flanderization}} in the sequel, ''Anime/DragonBallZBrolySecondComing'', and [[WolverinePublicity his many video game appearances thereafter]] (many of which were likely [[AudienceColoringAdaptation influenced by]] ''Second Coming'').

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* NewerThanTheyThink: Broly is not a brute who only screams "[[SayMyName Kakarot!!!]]" in this movie. He actually has plenty of lines in this film - most prominently "You, Kakarot, I choose ''you'' to be the first of my victims!". In fact, the time he does yell "Kakarot!" is when under the influence of his slave crown and meant as a sign that it's beginning to short-circuit, not in his normal state of mind where he is perfectly well-spoken. That is a result of the {{Flanderization}} in the sequel, ''Anime/DragonBallZBrolySecondComing'', and [[WolverinePublicity his many video game appearances thereafter]] (many of which were likely [[AudienceColoringAdaptation influenced by]] ''Second Coming'').
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** Goku traveling through space by using Instant Transmission is a pretty well liked scene because of the awesome image and colors. This scene would be reused before the credits in [[Anime/DragonBallZBrolySecondComing Broly: Second Coming]] and [[Anime/DragonBallZFusionReborn Fusion Reborn]].

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** Goku traveling going through space by using Instant Transmission is a pretty well liked scene because of the awesome image and colors. This scene would be reused before the credits in [[Anime/DragonBallZBrolySecondComing Broly: Second Coming]] and [[Anime/DragonBallZFusionReborn Fusion Reborn]].

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* SignatureScene: Broly's transformation into the Legendary Super Saiyan is one of the most well-remembered parts of the movie, and would eventually be recreated upon Broly becoming part of the series' canon in ''Anime/DragonBallSuperBroly''.

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transformation into the Legendary Super Saiyan is one of the most well-remembered parts of the movie, and would eventually be recreated upon Broly becoming part of the series' canon in ''Anime/DragonBallSuperBroly''.''Anime/DragonBallSuperBroly''.
**Goku traveling through space by using Instant Transmission is a pretty well liked scene because of the awesome image and colors. This scene would be reused before the credits in [[Anime/DragonBallZBrolySecondComing Broly: Second Coming]] and [[Anime/DragonBallZFusionReborn Fusion Reborn]].
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Broly, due to his popularity status, but also because, unlike all the NonSerialMovie villains in the franchise, Broly has ''a shown backstory''. Many fans and even the creators themselves have argued that Broly has something sad about him, particularly the fact he was stabbed as a baby by King Vegeta who left him and his father to die; the fact he appeared incapable of controlling his power (with his Legendary Super Saiyan form looking like a SuperpoweredEvilSide and being depicted as an incredibly painful transformation); and his sad and/or pained look for a sizable portion of the film, never mind Broly appearing to be a decent, unassuming fellow until he crosses paths with Goku. Due to this, fanfics sometimes treat him more like a tragic victim of his own power or try to give him aspects that make Broly come across as somewhat pitiable. Some video games like ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallZBudokai Shin Budokai]]'' and the ''Raging Blast'' series similarly treat his treatment at the hands of Paragus as a FreudianExcuse, and ''Supersonic Warriors 2'' even redeemed him, having Mister Satan treat him nicely while Broly was recovering from amnesia. It's possibly no surprise that Kale, ''Super'''s [[DistaffCounterpart answer to Broly]], is presented as a pitiable girl who can't control her own power and has some CharacterDevelopment which involves controlling said power and gaining the confidence to fight, and that later the new incarnation of [[DragonBallSuperBroly the actual Broly]] was also [[AntiVillain depicted more way sympathetically]].

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Broly, due to his popularity status, but also because, unlike all the NonSerialMovie villains in the franchise, Broly has ''a shown backstory''. Many fans and even the creators themselves have argued that Broly has something sad about him, particularly the fact he was stabbed as a baby by King Vegeta who left him and his father to die; the fact he appeared incapable of controlling his power (with his Legendary Super Saiyan form looking like a SuperpoweredEvilSide and being depicted as an incredibly painful transformation); and his sad and/or pained look for a sizable portion of the film, never mind Broly appearing to be a decent, unassuming fellow until he crosses paths with Goku. Due to this, fanfics sometimes treat him more like a tragic victim of his own power or try to give him aspects that make Broly come across as somewhat pitiable. Some video games like ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallZBudokai Shin Budokai]]'' and the ''Raging Blast'' series similarly treat his treatment at the hands of Paragus as a FreudianExcuse, and ''Supersonic Warriors 2'' even redeemed him, having Mister Satan treat him nicely while Broly was recovering from amnesia. It's possibly no surprise that Kale, ''Super'''s the ''Super'' anime's [[DistaffCounterpart answer to Broly]], is presented as a pitiable girl who can't control her own power and has some CharacterDevelopment which involves controlling said power and gaining the confidence to fight, and that later the new incarnation of [[DragonBallSuperBroly [[Anime/DragonBallSuperBroly the actual Broly]] was also [[AntiVillain depicted more way sympathetically]].
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Broly, due to his popularity status, but also because, unlike all the NonSerialMovie villains in the franchise, Broly has ''a shown backstory''. Many fans and even the creators themselves have argued that Broly has something sad about him, particularly the fact he was stabbed as a baby by King Vegeta who left him and his father to die; the fact he appeared incapable of controlling his power (with his Legendary Super Saiyan form looking like a SuperpoweredEvilSide and being depicted as an incredibly painful transformation); and his sad and/or pained look for a sizable portion of the film, never mind Broly appearing to be a decent, unassuming fellow until he crosses paths with Goku. Due to this, fanfics sometimes treat him more like a tragic victim of his own power or try to give him aspects that make Broly come across as somewhat pitiable. Some video games like ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallZBudokai Shin Budokai]]'' and the ''Raging Blast'' series similarly treat his treatment at the hands of Paragus as a FreudianExcuse, and ''Supersonic Warriors 2'' even redeemed him, having Mister Satan treat him nicely while Broly was recovering from amnesia. It's possibly no surprise that Kale, ''Super'''s [[DistaffCounterpart answer to Broly]], is presented as a pitiable girl who can't control her own power and has some CharacterDevelopment which involves controlling said power and gaining the confidence to fight.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Broly, due to his popularity status, but also because, unlike all the NonSerialMovie villains in the franchise, Broly has ''a shown backstory''. Many fans and even the creators themselves have argued that Broly has something sad about him, particularly the fact he was stabbed as a baby by King Vegeta who left him and his father to die; the fact he appeared incapable of controlling his power (with his Legendary Super Saiyan form looking like a SuperpoweredEvilSide and being depicted as an incredibly painful transformation); and his sad and/or pained look for a sizable portion of the film, never mind Broly appearing to be a decent, unassuming fellow until he crosses paths with Goku. Due to this, fanfics sometimes treat him more like a tragic victim of his own power or try to give him aspects that make Broly come across as somewhat pitiable. Some video games like ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallZBudokai Shin Budokai]]'' and the ''Raging Blast'' series similarly treat his treatment at the hands of Paragus as a FreudianExcuse, and ''Supersonic Warriors 2'' even redeemed him, having Mister Satan treat him nicely while Broly was recovering from amnesia. It's possibly no surprise that Kale, ''Super'''s [[DistaffCounterpart answer to Broly]], is presented as a pitiable girl who can't control her own power and has some CharacterDevelopment which involves controlling said power and gaining the confidence to fight.fight, and that later the new incarnation of [[DragonBallSuperBroly the actual Broly]] was also [[AntiVillain depicted more way sympathetically]].
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* NewerThanTheyThink: Broly is not a brute who only screams "[[SayMyName Kakarot!!!]]" in this movie, and actually has quite a few voicelines - most prominently "You, Kakarot, I choose ''you'' to be the first of my victims!". That is a result of the {{Flanderization}} in the sequel, ''Anime/DragonBallZBrolySecondComing'', and [[WolverinePublicity his many video game appearances thereafter]] (many of which were likely [[AudienceColoringAdaptation influenced by]] ''Second Coming'').

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* NewerThanTheyThink: Broly is not a brute who only screams "[[SayMyName Kakarot!!!]]" in this movie, and movie. He actually has quite a few voicelines plenty of lines in this film - most prominently "You, Kakarot, I choose ''you'' to be the first of my victims!". That is a result of the {{Flanderization}} in the sequel, ''Anime/DragonBallZBrolySecondComing'', and [[WolverinePublicity his many video game appearances thereafter]] (many of which were likely [[AudienceColoringAdaptation influenced by]] ''Second Coming'').
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Broly, due to his popularity status, but also because, unlike all the NonSerialMovie villains in the franchise, Broly has ''a shown backstory''. Many fans and even the creators themselves have argued that Broly has something sad about him, particularly the fact he was stabbed as a baby by King Vegeta who left him and his father to die; the fact he appeared incapable of controlling his power (with his Legendary Super Saiyan form looking like a SuperpoweredEvilSide and being depicted as an incredibly painful transformatioin); and his sad and/or pained look for a sizable portion of the film, never mind Broly appearing to be a decent, unassuming fellow until he crosses paths with Goku. Due to this, fanfics sometimes treat him more like a tragic victim of his own power or try to give him aspects that make Broly come across as somewhat pitiable. Some video games like ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallZBudokai Shin Budokai]]'' and the ''Raging Blast'' series similarly treat his treatment at the hands of Paragus as a FreudianExcuse, and ''Supersonic Warriors 2'' even redeemed him, having Mister Satan treat him nicely while Broly was recovering from amnesia. It's possibly no surprise that Kale, ''Super'''s [[DistaffCounterpart answer to Broly]], is presented as a pitiable girl who can't control her own power and has some CharacterDevelopment which involves controlling said power and gaining the confidence to fight.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Broly, due to his popularity status, but also because, unlike all the NonSerialMovie villains in the franchise, Broly has ''a shown backstory''. Many fans and even the creators themselves have argued that Broly has something sad about him, particularly the fact he was stabbed as a baby by King Vegeta who left him and his father to die; the fact he appeared incapable of controlling his power (with his Legendary Super Saiyan form looking like a SuperpoweredEvilSide and being depicted as an incredibly painful transformatioin); transformation); and his sad and/or pained look for a sizable portion of the film, never mind Broly appearing to be a decent, unassuming fellow until he crosses paths with Goku. Due to this, fanfics sometimes treat him more like a tragic victim of his own power or try to give him aspects that make Broly come across as somewhat pitiable. Some video games like ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallZBudokai Shin Budokai]]'' and the ''Raging Blast'' series similarly treat his treatment at the hands of Paragus as a FreudianExcuse, and ''Supersonic Warriors 2'' even redeemed him, having Mister Satan treat him nicely while Broly was recovering from amnesia. It's possibly no surprise that Kale, ''Super'''s [[DistaffCounterpart answer to Broly]], is presented as a pitiable girl who can't control her own power and has some CharacterDevelopment which involves controlling said power and gaining the confidence to fight.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Broly. The divide is mainly visible between the Asian audiences [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff and the western ones]]. People either love him for being [[CrazyIsCool a crazy badass]] or see him as everything wrong with ''[[Anime/DragonBallZ DBZ]]''. Those who aren't in Broly's corner will point to how [[FlatCharacter he has little to no personality]] and how writers and fans (usually the latter) sometimes [[WolverinePublicity push him]] [[CharacterShilling too hard]] and try to make him look like the most powerful character in all of ''Franchise/DragonBall''. The fact that various spin-offs introduced [[http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Broly#Abilities additional transformations for Broly]] to seemingly validate this claim (ex. Super Saiyan 3 in ''Dragon Battlers'' and ''Raging Blast'', [[Anime/DragonBallGT Golden Great Ape and Super Saiyan 4]] in ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallHeroes Heroes]]''), culminating with 2017's ''[[Ride/UniversalStudios The Real 4-D at Super Tenkaichi Budokai]]'' giving Broly his own god form (simply dubbed "Broly God"), only furthered the schism. Fortunately for Broly, Creator/AkiraToriyama's [[AdaptationExpansion reworking]] of his character and backstory for ''Anime/DragonBallSuperBroly'' won over many of his detractors, including Creator/TeamFourStar.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Broly. The divide is mainly visible between the Asian audiences [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff and the western ones]]. People either love him for being [[CrazyIsCool a crazy badass]] or see him as everything wrong with ''[[Anime/DragonBallZ DBZ]]''.''Anime/DragonBallZ''. Those who aren't in Broly's corner will point to how [[FlatCharacter he has little to no personality]] and how writers and fans (usually the latter) sometimes [[WolverinePublicity push him]] [[CharacterShilling too hard]] and try to make him look like the most powerful character in all of ''Franchise/DragonBall''. The fact that various spin-offs introduced [[http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Broly#Abilities additional transformations for Broly]] to seemingly validate this claim (ex. Super Saiyan 3 in ''Dragon Battlers'' and ''Raging Blast'', [[Anime/DragonBallGT Golden Great Ape and Super Saiyan 4]] in ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallHeroes Heroes]]''), culminating with 2017's ''[[Ride/UniversalStudios The Real 4-D at Super Tenkaichi Budokai]]'' giving Broly his own god form (simply dubbed "Broly God"), only furthered the schism. Fortunately for Broly, Creator/AkiraToriyama's [[AdaptationExpansion reworking]] of his character and backstory for ''Anime/DragonBallSuperBroly'' won over many of his detractors, including Creator/TeamFourStar.detractors.



* DracoInLeatherPants: Broly, due to his popularity status, but also because, unlike all the NonSerialMovie villains in the franchise, Broly has ''a shown backstory''. Many fans and even the creators themselves have noticed that Broly has something sad about him, particularly the fact he was stabbed as a baby by King Vegeta who left him and his father to die; the fact he appeared incapable of controlling his power (with his Legendary Super Saiyan form looking more like a SuperpoweredEvilSide than his own doing and being depicted as [[PainfulTransformation an incredibly painful experience for Broly]]); and his sad and/or pained look for a sizable portion of the film due to the slave crown his father forced on him, never mind Broly appearing to be a decent, unassuming fellow until he crosses paths with Goku on New Planet Vegeta and [[SanitySlippage starts to go back off the deep end]].\\
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Due to this, fanfics sometimes treat him more like a tragic victim of his own power or try to give him aspects that make Broly come across as somewhat pitiable. Before working for ''Manga/DragonBallSuper'', Toyotarō wanted to explore his relationship with Paragus and redeem him but was stopped by the cancellation of ''WebComic/{{Dragon Ball AF|Toyble}}''. Salagir, the author of ''Webcomic/DragonBallMultiverse'', [[AdaptationalBadass while overplaying his power]], also wrote Broly as someone who was going to die young due to his body not being able to handle his immense power. Some video games like ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallZBudokai Shin Budokai]]'' and the ''Raging Blast'' series similarly treat his treatment at the hands of Paragus as a FreudianExcuse, and ''Supersonic Warriors 2'' even redeemed him in a WhatIf path that took a page out of the Buu Saga and had Mister Satan treat him nicely while Broly was recovering from TraumaInducedAmnesia.\\
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It's possibly no surprise that Kale, ''Super'''s [[DistaffCounterpart answer to Broly]], is presented as a pitiable girl who can't control her own power and has some CharacterDevelopment which involves controlling said power and gaining the confidence to fight along her "big sis" Caulifla (who ironically looks like a DistaffCounterpart of Goku. Talk about {{Irony}}).

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Broly, due to his popularity status, but also because, unlike all the NonSerialMovie villains in the franchise, Broly has ''a shown backstory''. Many fans and even the creators themselves have noticed argued that Broly has something sad about him, particularly the fact he was stabbed as a baby by King Vegeta who left him and his father to die; the fact he appeared incapable of controlling his power (with his Legendary Super Saiyan form looking more like a SuperpoweredEvilSide than his own doing and being depicted as [[PainfulTransformation an incredibly painful experience for Broly]]); transformatioin); and his sad and/or pained look for a sizable portion of the film due to the slave crown his father forced on him, film, never mind Broly appearing to be a decent, unassuming fellow until he crosses paths with Goku on New Planet Vegeta and [[SanitySlippage starts to go back off the deep end]].\\
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Goku. Due to this, fanfics sometimes treat him more like a tragic victim of his own power or try to give him aspects that make Broly come across as somewhat pitiable. Before working for ''Manga/DragonBallSuper'', Toyotarō wanted to explore his relationship with Paragus and redeem him but was stopped by the cancellation of ''WebComic/{{Dragon Ball AF|Toyble}}''. Salagir, the author of ''Webcomic/DragonBallMultiverse'', [[AdaptationalBadass while overplaying his power]], also wrote Broly as someone who was going to die young due to his body not being able to handle his immense power. Some video games like ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallZBudokai Shin Budokai]]'' and the ''Raging Blast'' series similarly treat his treatment at the hands of Paragus as a FreudianExcuse, and ''Supersonic Warriors 2'' even redeemed him in a WhatIf path that took a page out of the Buu Saga and had him, having Mister Satan treat him nicely while Broly was recovering from TraumaInducedAmnesia.\\
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amnesia. It's possibly no surprise that Kale, ''Super'''s [[DistaffCounterpart answer to Broly]], is presented as a pitiable girl who can't control her own power and has some CharacterDevelopment which involves controlling said power and gaining the confidence to fight along her "big sis" Caulifla (who ironically looks like a DistaffCounterpart of Goku. Talk about {{Irony}}).fight.



* FridgeLogic: [[MST3KMantra Two minor complaints that can be forgiven due to being a]] NonSerialMovie.

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* FridgeLogic: [[MST3KMantra Two minor complaints that can be forgiven due to being a]] a NonSerialMovie.



** Speaking of ''Super'', it turns out that there is a canon Legendary Super Saiyan. And it's a woman named Kale. On top of that, [[Anime/DragonBallSuperBroly the film]] following the end of [[Recap/DragonBallSuperUniverseSurvivalArc the arc]] in which Kale was introduced [[CanonImmigrant establishes Broly himself as part of the]] ''[[CanonImmigrant Dragon Ball]]'' [[CanonImmigrant canon]].

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** Speaking of ''Super'', it It turns out that there is a canon Legendary Super Saiyan. And it's a woman named Kale. On top of that, [[Anime/DragonBallSuperBroly the film]] following the end of [[Recap/DragonBallSuperUniverseSurvivalArc the arc]] in which Kale was introduced [[CanonImmigrant establishes Broly himself as part of the]] ''[[CanonImmigrant Dragon Ball]]'' [[CanonImmigrant canon]].



* NeverLiveItDown: Broly's motivation of despising Goku for crying a lot as a baby is something his detractors will ''never'' forget about him. Expect this fact to always be used as a criticism for his lack of motivation. It doesn't help that the film implies there are many other factors responsible for Broly's warped personality yet never definitively shows this to be case while putting focus on the encounter between Goku and Broly in their infancy. And if that wasn't enough, ''Second Coming'' uses the similarity between Baby!Goku and Goten's cries as the catalyst that awakens Broly from his slumber, as if to prove that Broly's "childhood trauma" is indeed the driving force behind his madness. To quote ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'':
--> '''TFS!Vegeta:''' ''(to Piccolo)'' But you don't understand! [[DisappointedByTheMotive The Legendary Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant]]! He is a literal, giant [[SoundEffectBleep f***ing]] baby!

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* NeverLiveItDown: Broly's motivation of despising Goku for crying a lot as a baby is something his detractors will ''never'' forget about him. Expect this fact to always be used as a criticism for his lack of motivation. It doesn't help that the film implies there are many other factors responsible for Broly's warped personality yet never definitively shows this to be case while putting focus on the encounter between Goku and Broly in their infancy. And if that wasn't enough, ''Second Coming'' uses the similarity between Baby!Goku and Goten's cries as the catalyst that awakens Broly from his slumber, as if to prove that Broly's "childhood trauma" is indeed the driving force behind his madness. To quote ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'':\n--> '''TFS!Vegeta:''' ''(to Piccolo)'' But you don't understand! [[DisappointedByTheMotive The Legendary Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant]]! He is a literal, giant [[SoundEffectBleep f***ing]] baby!
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* FountainOfMemes: In Japan, the movie is something of a beloved icon for the internet, similar to [[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog Doctor Robotnik]] with the YouTubePoop fandom. Broly and Paragus are considered meme icons, for some reason.

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* FountainOfMemes: In Japan, the movie is something of a beloved icon for the internet, similar to [[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog Doctor Robotnik]] with the YouTubePoop fandom. Broly and Paragus are considered meme icons, because of the fact that they individually manage to say every syllabe in the Japanese alphabet on this movie alone, allowing for some reason.good ol' sentence-mixing to let them say anything you want them to.
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* NewerThanTheyThink: Broly is not a brute who only screams "[[SayMyName Kakarot!!!]]" in this movie. That is a result of the {{Flanderization}} in the sequel, ''Anime/DragonBallZBrolySecondComing'', and [[WolverinePublicity his many video game appearances thereafter]] (many of which were likely [[AudienceColoringAdaptation influenced by]] ''Second Coming'').

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* NewerThanTheyThink: Broly is not a brute who only screams "[[SayMyName Kakarot!!!]]" in this movie.movie, and actually has quite a few voicelines - most prominently "You, Kakarot, I choose ''you'' to be the first of my victims!". That is a result of the {{Flanderization}} in the sequel, ''Anime/DragonBallZBrolySecondComing'', and [[WolverinePublicity his many video game appearances thereafter]] (many of which were likely [[AudienceColoringAdaptation influenced by]] ''Second Coming'').

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** Mostly as a joke due to Kale's [[AmbiguouslyGay ambiguous lesbianism]] towards Caulifla in ''Super'' and [[Recap/DragonBallZAbridgedM11 the Princess Trunks joke]] from ''[[WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged Abridged]]'', people joke that Broly is actually just an extreme case of a {{Yandere}} towards Goku.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: There are a lot of detractors who think that the movie would have been better if Broly had been given a more compelling FreudianExcuse than "[[EvilIsPetty Goku's crying bothered him.]]" (The fact that King Vegeta tried to ''[[WouldHurtAChild assassinate]]'' an infant Broly out of dread and paranoia, failed, and [[LeftForDead left him for dead]] along with his father, only for Broly to live through the destruction of Planet Vegeta seems to have had no bearing on his mental state, ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallZBudokai Shin Budokai]]'' aside.) Naturally, Creator/TeamFourStar took the piss out of this one in their [[WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged Abridged]] [[Recap/DragonBallZAbridgedM11 version of the film]]: not only does Vegeta ask Paragus why Broly [[SinsOfTheFather isn't out to get him]], but his original reaction of fear and awe at Broly is replaced by the Saiyan Prince being [[CoolButStupid incredibly]] [[DisappointedByTheMotive torn]] over how someone [[EvilIsCool as cool as Broly]] can simultaneously be driven purely by such a ridiculous backstory premise, also summing up the fan opinion listed in BaseBreakingCharacter above.
-->'''TFS!Vegeta:''' But... [[FlatCharacter that's really dumb]]... B-but ''he's so cool!''... '''[[HeroicBSOD BUT THAT'S SO DUMB!]]'''

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: There are a lot of detractors who think that the movie would have been better if Broly had been given a more compelling FreudianExcuse than "[[EvilIsPetty Goku's crying bothered him.]]" (The fact that King Vegeta tried to ''[[WouldHurtAChild assassinate]]'' an infant Broly out of dread and paranoia, failed, and [[LeftForDead left him for dead]] along with his father, only for Broly to live through the destruction of Planet Vegeta seems to have had no bearing on his mental state, ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallZBudokai Shin Budokai]]'' aside.) Naturally, Creator/TeamFourStar took the piss out of this one in their [[WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged Abridged]] [[Recap/DragonBallZAbridgedM11 version of the film]]: not only does Vegeta ask Paragus why Broly [[SinsOfTheFather isn't out to get him]], but his original reaction of fear and awe at Broly is replaced by the Saiyan Prince being [[CoolButStupid incredibly]] [[DisappointedByTheMotive torn]] over how someone [[EvilIsCool as cool as Broly]] can simultaneously be driven purely by such a ridiculous backstory premise, also summing up the fan opinion listed in BaseBreakingCharacter above.
-->'''TFS!Vegeta:''' But... [[FlatCharacter that's really dumb]]... B-but ''he's so cool!''... '''[[HeroicBSOD BUT THAT'S SO DUMB!]]'''
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** [[http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:597722 At least one fan]] has theorized that Broly isn't really motivated by Kakarot's crying while they were infants, but by his Saiyan instinct. Notably, Broly never outright states he wants to kill Goku due to him crying, instead wanting to have a good brawl as the sadistic BloodKnight he is. At the same time, the direction of the movie, and the fact there is a flashback of them crying as babies before he dies, makes the viewer think Broly is remembering his past (and indeed placing significance on this single event), which adds to the confusion. As stated below, the movie is sort of ambiguous in this regard. This ambiguity, however, disappears in [[Anime/DragonBallZBrolySecondComing the following movie]] due to Broly losing his personality, being awakened by Goten crying, promptly [[StrongFamilyResemblance mistaking Goten for Goku]], and then going on another rampage.

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** [[http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:597722 At least one fan]] has theorized that Broly isn't really motivated by Kakarot's crying while they were infants, but by his Saiyan instinct.instincts. Notably, Broly never outright states he wants to kill Goku due to him crying, instead wanting to have a good brawl as the sadistic BloodKnight he is. At the same time, the direction of the movie, and the fact there is a flashback of them crying as babies before he dies, makes the viewer think Broly is remembering his past (and indeed placing significance on this single event), which adds to the confusion. As stated below, the movie is sort of ambiguous in this regard. This ambiguity, however, disappears in [[Anime/DragonBallZBrolySecondComing the following movie]] due to Broly losing his personality, being awakened by Goten crying, promptly [[StrongFamilyResemblance mistaking Goten for Goku]], and then going on another rampage.



--> '''TFS!Vegeta:''' ''(to Piccolo)'' But you don't understand! The Legendary Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal, giant [[SoundEffectBleep f***ing]] baby!

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--> '''TFS!Vegeta:''' ''(to Piccolo)'' But you don't understand! [[DisappointedByTheMotive The Legendary Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! infant]]! He is a literal, giant [[SoundEffectBleep f***ing]] baby!
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* FountainOfMemes: In Japan, the movie is something of a beloved icon for the internet, similar to [[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog Doctor Robotnik]] with the WebAnimation/YouTubePoop fandom. Broly and Paragus are considered meme icons, for some reason.

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* FountainOfMemes: In Japan, the movie is something of a beloved icon for the internet, similar to [[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog Doctor Robotnik]] with the WebAnimation/YouTubePoop YouTubePoop fandom. Broly and Paragus are considered meme icons, for some reason.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Broly, due to his popularity status, but also because, unlike all the NonSerialMovie villains in the franchise, Broly has ''a shown backstory''. Many fans and even the creators themselves have noticed that Broly has something sad about him, particularly the fact he was stabbed as a baby by King Vegeta who left him and his father to die; the fact he appeared incapable of controlling his power (with his Legendary Super Saiyan form looking more like a SuperpoweredEvilSide than his own doing and being depicted as [[PainfulTransformation an incredibly painful experience for Broly]]); and his sad and/or pained look for a sizable portion of the film due to the slave crown his father forced on him, never mind Broly appearing to be a decent, unassuming fellow until he crosses paths with Goku on New Planet Vegeta and [[SanitySlippage starts to go back off the deep end]].

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Broly, due to his popularity status, but also because, unlike all the NonSerialMovie villains in the franchise, Broly has ''a shown backstory''. Many fans and even the creators themselves have noticed that Broly has something sad about him, particularly the fact he was stabbed as a baby by King Vegeta who left him and his father to die; the fact he appeared incapable of controlling his power (with his Legendary Super Saiyan form looking more like a SuperpoweredEvilSide than his own doing and being depicted as [[PainfulTransformation an incredibly painful experience for Broly]]); and his sad and/or pained look for a sizable portion of the film due to the slave crown his father forced on him, never mind Broly appearing to be a decent, unassuming fellow until he crosses paths with Goku on New Planet Vegeta and [[SanitySlippage starts to go back off the deep end]].\\
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Broly, due to his popularity status, but also because, unlike all the NonSerialMovie villains in the franchise, Broly has ''a shown backstory''. Many fans and even the creators themselves have noticed that Broly has something sad about him, particularly the fact he was stabbed as a baby by King Vegeta who left him and his father to die; the fact he appeared incapable of controlling his power (with his Legendary Super Saiyan form looking more like a SuperpoweredEvilSide than his own doing and being depicted as [[PainfulTransformation an incredibly painful experience for Broly]]); and his sad and/or pained look for a sizable portion of the film due to the slave crown his father forced on him, never mind Broly appearing to be a decent, unassuming fellow until he crosses paths with Goku on New Planet Vegeta and [[SanitySlippage starts to go back off the deep end]].\\

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Broly, due to his popularity status, but also because, unlike all the NonSerialMovie villains in the franchise, Broly has ''a shown backstory''. Many fans and even the creators themselves have noticed that Broly has something sad about him, particularly the fact he was stabbed as a baby by King Vegeta who left him and his father to die; the fact he appeared incapable of controlling his power (with his Legendary Super Saiyan form looking more like a SuperpoweredEvilSide than his own doing and being depicted as [[PainfulTransformation an incredibly painful experience for Broly]]); and his sad and/or pained look for a sizable portion of the film due to the slave crown his father forced on him, never mind Broly appearing to be a decent, unassuming fellow until he crosses paths with Goku on New Planet Vegeta and [[SanitySlippage starts to go back off the deep end]].end]].
Due to this, fanfics sometimes treat him more like a tragic victim of his own power or try to give him aspects that make Broly come across as somewhat pitiable. Before working for ''Manga/DragonBallSuper'', Toyotarō wanted to explore his relationship with Paragus and redeem him but was stopped by the cancellation of ''WebComic/{{Dragon Ball AF|Toyble}}''. Salagir, the author of ''Webcomic/DragonBallMultiverse'', [[AdaptationalBadass while overplaying his power]], also wrote Broly as someone who was going to die young due to his body not being able to handle his immense power. Some video games like ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallZBudokai Shin Budokai]]'' and the ''Raging Blast'' series similarly treat his treatment at the hands of Paragus as a FreudianExcuse, and ''Supersonic Warriors 2'' even redeemed him in a WhatIf path that took a page out of the Buu Saga and had Mister Satan treat him nicely while Broly was recovering from TraumaInducedAmnesia.
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Due to this, fanfics sometimes treat him more like a tragic victim of his own power or try to give him aspects that make Broly come across as somewhat pitiable. Before working for ''Manga/DragonBallSuper'', Toyotarō wanted to explore his relationship with Paragus and redeem him but was stopped by the cancellation of ''WebComic/{{Dragon Ball AF|Toyble}}''. Salagir, the author of ''Webcomic/DragonBallMultiverse'', [[AdaptationalBadass while overplaying his power]], also wrote Broly as someone who was going to die young due to his body not being able to handle his immense power. Some video games like ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallZBudokai Shin Budokai]]'' and the ''Raging Blast'' series similarly treat his treatment at the hands of Paragus as a FreudianExcuse, and ''Supersonic Warriors 2'' even redeemed him in a WhatIf path that took a page out of the Buu Saga and had Mister Satan treat him nicely while Broly was recovering from TraumaInducedAmnesia.\\
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