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* BrokenBase: The fandom is split between those who think the serial is SoBadItsGood and those who think it's DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible.
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* BrokenBase: The fandom is split between those who think the serial is SoBadItsGood and those who think it's "So Bad It's Awful".

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* BrokenBase: The fandom is split between those who think the serial is SoBadItsGood and those who think it's "So Bad It's Awful".DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible.
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* BrokenBase: As Website/SFDebris put it, fandom is split between those who think the serial is SoBadItsGood and those who think it's "So Bad It's Awful".

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* BrokenBase: As Website/SFDebris put it, The fandom is split between those who think the serial is SoBadItsGood and those who think it's "So Bad It's Awful".
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* WhatAnIdiot: Everyone falls for Zaroff's laughably unconvincing fake heart attack.
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* FanNickname: Because of the serial's notoriously shoddy production, it's sometimes referred to by fans as "[[Film/Plan9FromOuterSpace Plan 9 from Doctor Who]]".
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* HamAndCheese: Most fans (and the cast and crew) find the story hokey, nonsensical and generally stupid, but Joseph Fürst played Zaroff so outrageously over-the-top and with so much ChewingTheScenery that he becomes an entertaining and memorable villain (although the interview with Anneke Wills on the [[MissingEpisode reconstruction audio]] suggests that she thought he TookTheBadFilmSeriously, and that she and Creator/PatrickTroughton would constantly make him repeat his line "NOTHINK IN ZE VORLD CAN SHTOP ME NOW!!" to laugh at him ''and he never realised they were mocking him'').

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* HamAndCheese: Most fans (and the cast and crew) find the story hokey, nonsensical and generally stupid, but Joseph Fürst played Zaroff so outrageously over-the-top and with so much ChewingTheScenery that he becomes an entertaining and memorable villain (although the interview with Anneke Wills Creator/AnnekeWills on the [[MissingEpisode reconstruction audio]] suggests that she thought he TookTheBadFilmSeriously, and that she and Creator/PatrickTroughton would constantly make him repeat his line "NOTHINK IN ZE VORLD CAN SHTOP ME NOW!!" to laugh at him ''and he never realised they were mocking him'').
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* SignatureScene: This serial is remembered for two scenes, both occuring in Episode Three:
** The sequence in the third episode in which the fish people swim around for two minutes. It is often referred to, for want of a better description, as the "underwater ballet".
** The cliffhanger at the end of Episode Three, in which Zaroff shouts "NOTHING IN THE WORLD CAN STOP ME NOW!"
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** Pretty much every line that comes out of [[LargeHam Joseph Furst's]] mouth. His closing line of Rpisode 3, however ("NOZING IN ZE VORLD CAN SHTOP ME NOW!") takes the cake.

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** Pretty much every line that comes out of [[LargeHam Joseph Furst's]] mouth. His closing line of Rpisode Episode 3, however ("NOZING IN ZE VORLD CAN SHTOP ME NOW!") takes the cake.
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* ClicheStorm: To the point that the recovery of another episode was met with decidedly more mixed reactions that literally any other story would have gotten. Opinion has shifted as fans have seen the episode. It's generally considered much better than episode 3, and improves episode 3 by adding much-needed context.

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* ClicheStorm: To the point that the recovery of another episode was met with decidedly more mixed reactions that literally almost any other story would have gotten. Opinion has shifted as fans have seen the second episode. It's generally considered much better than episode Episode 3, and improves episode Episode 3 by adding much-needed context.



** Pretty much every line that comes out of [[LargeHam Joseph Furst's]] mouth. His closing line of episode 3, however ("NOZING IN ZE VORLD CAN SHTOP ME NOW!") takes the cake.
** The whole episode in fan circles is known for its utter camp. In fact, it's even often referred to ''Plan 9 from Doctor Who''.

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** Pretty much every line that comes out of [[LargeHam Joseph Furst's]] mouth. His closing line of episode Rpisode 3, however ("NOZING IN ZE VORLD CAN SHTOP ME NOW!") takes the cake.
** The whole episode story in fan circles is known for its utter camp. In fact, it's even often referred to ''Plan 9 from Doctor Who''.

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* BrokenBase: As Website/SFDebris put it, fandom is split between those who think the serial is SoBadItsGood and those who think it's So Bad It's Awful.

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* BrokenBase: As Website/SFDebris put it, fandom is split between those who think the serial is SoBadItsGood and those who think it's So "So Bad It's Awful.Awful".


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* JustHereForGodzilla: With an incredibly silly plot even by the normal standards of the series, poor production and the fact that two of the four episodes are lost, many fans watch this serial just to see the amusing villain Zaroff.
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* SoBadItsGood: One printed review in ''SFX magazine'' describing it as "''[[FilmPlaneNineFromOuterSpace Plan Nine from Doctor Who]]''".

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* SoBadItsGood: One printed review in ''SFX magazine'' describing it as "''[[FilmPlaneNineFromOuterSpace "''[[Film/PlanNineFromOuterSpace Plan Nine from Doctor Who]]''".
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* SoBadItsGood

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* SoBadItsGoodSoBadItsGood: One printed review in ''SFX magazine'' describing it as "''[[FilmPlaneNineFromOuterSpace Plan Nine from Doctor Who]]''".
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* StylisticSuck: Some fans tend towards interpreting this as an intentional comedy that has simply been misunderstood, similar (to use a Doctor Who comparison, since in the more mainstream world there are far too many examples to list) to the growing cult reappraisal of The Space Museum, The Chase, and The Enemy of the World. Indeed, many scenes do work quite well when looked at this way, particularly a moment in Episode 2, where the Doctor, after listening patiently and attentively to Zarvoff’s EvilGloating, asks him in a matter-of-fact manner, "[[ArmorPiercingQuestion so, why do you wish to blow up the world, anyway?]]". Zarvoff is immediately taken aback, and it’s clear from to look on his face that ''he hadn’t thought of that''.
* WhatAnIdiot: Everyone falls for Zaroff's laughably unconvincing fake heart attack.

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* StylisticSuck: Some fans tend towards interpreting this as an intentional comedy that has simply been misunderstood, similar (to use a Doctor Who comparison, since in the more mainstream world there are far too many examples to list) to the growing cult reappraisal of The Space Museum, The Chase, and The Enemy of the World. Indeed, many scenes do work quite well when looked at this way, particularly a moment in Episode 2, where the Doctor, after listening patiently and attentively to Zarvoff’s EvilGloating, asks him in a matter-of-fact manner, "[[ArmorPiercingQuestion so, why do you wish to blow up the world, anyway?]]". Zarvoff is immediately taken aback, and it’s clear from to look on his face that ''he hadn’t thought of that''.
* WhatAnIdiot: Everyone falls for Zaroff's laughably unconvincing fake heart attack.attack.
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* StylisticSuck: Some fans tend towards interpreting this as an intentional comedy that has simply been misunderstood, similar (to use a Doctor Who comparison, since in the more mainstream world there are far too many examples to list) to the growing cult reappraisal of The Space Museum, The Chase, and The Enemy of the World.
Indeed, many scenes do work quite well when looked at this way, particularly a moment in Episode 2, where the Doctor, after listening patiently and attentively to Zarvoff’s EvilGloating, asks him in a matter-of-fact manner, "[[ArmorPiercingQuestion so, why do you wish to blow up the world, anyway?]]". Zarvoff is immediately taken aback, and it’s clear from to look on his face that ''he hadn’t thought of that''.

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* StylisticSuck: Some fans tend towards interpreting this as an intentional comedy that has simply been misunderstood, similar (to use a Doctor Who comparison, since in the more mainstream world there are far too many examples to list) to the growing cult reappraisal of The Space Museum, The Chase, and The Enemy of the World.
World. Indeed, many scenes do work quite well when looked at this way, particularly a moment in Episode 2, where the Doctor, after listening patiently and attentively to Zarvoff’s EvilGloating, asks him in a matter-of-fact manner, "[[ArmorPiercingQuestion so, why do you wish to blow up the world, anyway?]]". Zarvoff is immediately taken aback, and it’s clear from to look on his face that ''he hadn’t thought of that''.
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* StylisticSuck: Some fans tend towards interpreting this as an intentional comedy that has simply been misunderstood, similar (to use a Doctor Who comparison, since in the more mainstream world there are far too many examples to list) to the growing cult reappraisal of The Space Museum, The Chase, and The Enemy of the World.
Indeed, many scenes do work quite well when looked at this way, particularly a moment in Episode 2, where the Doctor, after listening patiently and attentively to Zarvoff’s EvilGloating, asks him in a matter-of-fact manner, "[[ArmorPiercingQuestion so, why do you wish to blow up the world, anyway?]]". Zarvoff is immediately taken aback, and it’s clear from to look on his face that ''he hadn’t thought of that''.
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* MemeticMutation: "NUZZING IN ZE VORLD CAN SHTOP ME NOW!!!!"
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* BrokenBase: As Website/SFDebris put it, fandom is split between those who think the serial is SoBadItsGood and those who think it's So Bad It's Awful.
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* HamAndCheese: Most fans (and the cast and crew) find the story hokey, nonsensical and generally stupid, but Joseph Fürst played Zaroff so outrageously over-the-top and with so much ChewingTheScenery that he becomes an entertaining and memorable villain (although the interview with Anneke Wills on the [[MissingEpisode reconstruction audio]] suggests that she thought he TookTheBadFilmSeriously, and that she and Creator/PatrickTroughton would constantly make him repeat his line "NOTHINK IN ZE VORLD CAN SHTOP ME NOW!!" to laugh at him ''and he never realised they were mocking him'').

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* {{Narm}}: Oh, so much.

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* {{Narm}}: Oh, so much.{{Narm}}:
** Pretty much every line that comes out of [[LargeHam Joseph Furst's]] mouth. His closing line of episode 3, however ("NOZING IN ZE VORLD CAN SHTOP ME NOW!") takes the cake.
** The whole episode in fan circles is known for its utter camp. In fact, it's even often referred to ''Plan 9 from Doctor Who''.
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* Narm: Oh, so much.
* SoBadItsGood

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* Narm: {{Narm}}: Oh, so much.
* SoBadItsGoodSoBadItsGood
* WhatAnIdiot: Everyone falls for Zaroff's laughably unconvincing fake heart attack.
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* SoBadIt'sGood

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* SoBadIt'sGoodSoBadItsGood
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* InferredHolocaust: The Doctor almost certainly kills many of the Atlanteans by flooding the city.

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* InferredHolocaust: The Doctor almost certainly kills many of the Atlanteans by flooding the city.city.
* Narm: Oh, so much.
* SoBadIt'sGood
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* ClicheStorm: To the point that the recovery of another episode was met with decidedly more mixed reactions that literally any other story would have gotten. Opinion has shifted as fans have seen the episode. It's generally considered much better than episode 3, and improves episode 3 by adding much-needed context.

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* ClicheStorm: To the point that the recovery of another episode was met with decidedly more mixed reactions that literally any other story would have gotten. Opinion has shifted as fans have seen the episode. It's generally considered much better than episode 3, and improves episode 3 by adding much-needed context.context.
* InferredHolocaust: The Doctor almost certainly kills many of the Atlanteans by flooding the city.
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* ClicheStorm: To the point that the recovery of another episode was met with decidedly more mixed reactions that literally any other story would have gotten. Opinion has shifted as fans have seen the episode. It's generally considered much better than episode 3, and improves episode 3 by adding much-needed context.

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