Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / DoctorWhoS30E7TheUnicornAndTheWasp

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/FelicityJones (known for ''Film/RogueOne'') has fun putting on a ridiculous Cockney accent [[spoiler:when she's revealed to be The Unicorn.]]

to:

* RetroactiveRecognition: A pre-''Film/RogueOne'' Creator/FelicityJones (known for ''Film/RogueOne'') has fun putting on a ridiculous Cockney accent [[spoiler:when she's revealed to be The Unicorn.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* GeniusBonus: When the Doctor runs into the kitchen after being poisoned, he blurts out "ginger beer" when he corners a very confused Davenport (the butler who is secretly in a gay relationship with Roger) as he searches for ginger beer. "Ginger beer" is also a word describing someone as "queer" (or homosexual) in Cockney rhyming slang.

to:

* GeniusBonus: When the Doctor runs into the kitchen after being poisoned, he blurts out "ginger beer" when he corners a very confused Davenport (the butler footman who is secretly in a gay relationship with Roger) as he searches for ginger beer. "Ginger beer" is also a word describing someone as "queer" (or homosexual) in Cockney rhyming slang.

Added: 340

Changed: 30

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* GeniusBonus: When the Doctor runs into the kitchen after being poisoned, he blurts out "ginger beer" when he corners a very confused Davenport (the butler who is secretly in a gay relationship with Roger) as he searches for ginger beer. "Ginger beer" is also a word describing someone as "queer" (or homosexual) in Cockney rhyming slang.



* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/FelicityJones has fun putting on a ridiculous Cockney accent [[spoiler:when she's revealed to be The Unicorn.]]

to:

* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/FelicityJones (known for ''Film/RogueOne'') has fun putting on a ridiculous Cockney accent [[spoiler:when she's revealed to be The Unicorn.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Acceptable Targets and its derivatives are now an index.


* AcceptableReligiousTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]] and the Anglican Church. The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Anglican priest when his disguise falters, calling it "tribal".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AcceptableReligiousTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]] and the Anglican Church. The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Anglican priest when his disguise falters, calling it primitive.

to:

* AcceptableReligiousTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]] and the Anglican Church. The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Anglican priest when his disguise falters, calling it primitive."tribal".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AcceptableTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]] and the Anglican Church. The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Anglican priest when his disguise falters, calling it primitive.

to:

* AcceptableTargets: AcceptableReligiousTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]] and the Anglican Church. The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Anglican priest when his disguise falters, calling it primitive.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/FelicityJones has fun putting on a ridiculous Cockney accent [[spoiler: when she's revealed to be The Unicorn]].

to:

* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/FelicityJones has fun putting on a ridiculous Cockney accent [[spoiler: when [[spoiler:when she's revealed to be The Unicorn]].Unicorn.]]

Added: 146

Removed: 1278

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FridgeHorror: By the end of the episode, Lady Eddison loses not only her devoted maid she'd known for at least 40 years and had as TheConfidant, but also both of her sons. In the case of Reverend Golightly, she had only just learned who he was when he was exposed as the killer, responsible for Roger's death, and ended up being killed himself. She also was present to hear that the reason he became a killer at all was because he was {{Mind Rape}}d [[MakesSenseInContext by her favorite Agatha Christie book]] she loved so much and just happened to be reading at the wrong time, never realizing the significance of the Firestone her dead lover had given her. The poor woman has no surviving children and will be forced to live with the trauma, guilt, and grief for the rest of her life. And you thought her [[TheAlcoholic drinking problem]] [[DrowningMySorrows was bad enough already]]. The narrative doesn't pause to reflect on any of this because it's so focused on Agatha as the main guest character.



* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/FelicityJones has fun putting on a ridiculous Cockney accent [[spoiler: when she's revealed to be The Unicorn]].



* TearJerker: Donna and Agatha Christie talking about how the men they loved betrayed them. From Agatha Christie's end, the events of this episode happened after her husband cheated on her and left her for another woman because he was jealous of her success as an author.

Changed: 67

Removed: 67

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Repair don't respond.


* AcceptableTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]], with emphasis on [[ChristianityIsCatholic Catholicism]]. The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Catholic priest when his disguise falters, calling it primitive.
** A point of order - Reverend Golightly is an ''Anglican'' priest.

to:

* AcceptableTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]], with emphasis on [[ChristianityIsCatholic Catholicism]]. Christians]] and the Anglican Church. The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Catholic Anglican priest when his disguise falters, calling it primitive.
** A point of order - Reverend Golightly is an ''Anglican'' priest.
primitive.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** A point of order - Reverend Golightly is an ''Anglican'' priest.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* HilariousInHindsight: This episode suggests that Christie remembered some parts of the incident and they influenced her future works. ''Literature/TheWaspsNest'' is one of those stories. Creator/PeterCapaldi, the Twelfth Doctor, appears in the ITV adaptation of ''Agatha Christie's Series/{{Poirot}}'', in the Wasp's Nest episode.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TearJerker: Donna and Agatha Christie talking about how the men they loved betrayed them. The worst part about the Agatha Christie one is that it's completely true: this story takes place after her husband cheated on her and left her for another woman because he was jealous of her success as an author.

to:

* TearJerker: Donna and Agatha Christie talking about how the men they loved betrayed them. The worst part about the From Agatha Christie one is that it's completely true: Christie's end, the events of this story takes place episode happened after her husband cheated on her and left her for another woman because he was jealous of her success as an author.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Internet Backdraft is now Flame Bait and being dewicked per TRS.


* InternetBackdraft: The Vespiform's comments on religion being "primitive" drew a great deal of criticism from Christians, both in and out of the Church.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TearJerker: Donna and Agatha Christie talking about how the men they loved betrayed them. The worst part about the Agatha Christie one is that it's completely true; her husband cheated on her and left her for another woman because he was jealous of her success as an author.

to:

* TearJerker: Donna and Agatha Christie talking about how the men they loved betrayed them. The worst part about the Agatha Christie one is that it's completely true; true: this story takes place after her husband cheated on her and left her for another woman because he was jealous of her success as an author.

Changed: 372

Removed: 238

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AcceptableTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]], with emphasis on [[ChristianityIsCatholic Catholicism]]. The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Catholic priest when his disguise falters, calling it primitive. Needless to say, this scene did ''not'' go over well with those genuninely of the cloth and actual Christians.
** For American readers, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment keep in mind]] this is a show produced in Europe, home of the Catholic Church. The cracks made towards the faith aren't necessarily aimed beyond the borders of Europe.

to:

* AcceptableTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]], with emphasis on [[ChristianityIsCatholic Catholicism]]. The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Catholic priest when his disguise falters, calling it primitive. Needless to say, this scene did ''not'' go over well with those genuninely of the cloth and actual Christians. \n** For American readers, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment keep in mind]] this is a show produced in Europe, home of the Catholic Church. The cracks made towards the faith aren't necessarily aimed beyond the borders of Europe.



%%* InternetBackdraft: Another Creator/RussellTDavies-era blistering assault on those who aren't irreligious. Many Christians felt like they had a bunch of actual wasps jammed down their throats with this aforementioned piece of dialogue.

to:

%%* * InternetBackdraft: Another Creator/RussellTDavies-era blistering assault The Vespiform's comments on those who aren't irreligious. Many Christians felt like they had religion being "primitive" drew a bunch great deal of actual wasps jammed down their throats with this aforementioned piece criticism from Christians, both in and out of dialogue.the Church.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
What piece of dialogue? Zero Context Example please expand before readding.


* InternetBackdraft: Another Creator/RussellTDavies-era blistering assault on those who aren't irreligious. Many Christians felt like they had a bunch of actual wasps jammed down their throats with this aforementioned piece of dialogue.

to:

* %%* InternetBackdraft: Another Creator/RussellTDavies-era blistering assault on those who aren't irreligious. Many Christians felt like they had a bunch of actual wasps jammed down their throats with this aforementioned piece of dialogue.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:


** For American readers, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement keep in mind]] this is a show produced in Europe, home of the Catholic Church. The cracks made towards the faith aren't necessarily aimed beyond the borders of Europe.

to:

** For American readers, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment keep in mind]] this is a show produced in Europe, home of the Catholic Church. The cracks made towards the faith aren't necessarily aimed beyond the borders of Europe.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* TearJerker: Donna and Agatha Christie talking about how the men they loved betrayed them. The worst part about the Agatha Christie one is that it's completely true; her husband cheated on her and left her for another woman because he was jealous of her success as an author.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* SoOkayItsAverage: Seen by a fair few fans as the weakest link in the otherwise extremely strong Series 4, and even then it's usually not regarded as an outright ''bad'' story so much as a middling and not especially memorable one.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FridgeHorror: By the end of the episode, Lady Eddison loses not only her devoted maid she'd known for at least 40 years and had as TheConfidant, but also both of her sons. In the case of Reverend Golightly, she had only just learned who he was when he was exposed as the killer, responsible for Roger's death, and ended up being killed himself. She also was present to hear that the reason he became a killer at all was because he was {{Mind Rape}}d by her favorite Agatha Christie book she loved so much and just happened to be reading at the wrong time, never realizing the significance of the Firestone her dead lover had given her. The poor woman has no surviving children and will be forced to live with the trauma, guilt, and grief for the rest of her life. And you thought her [[TheAlcoholic drinking problem]] [[DrowningMySorrows was bad enough already]]. The narrative doesn't pause to reflect on any of this because it's so focused on Agatha as the main guest character.

to:

* FridgeHorror: By the end of the episode, Lady Eddison loses not only her devoted maid she'd known for at least 40 years and had as TheConfidant, but also both of her sons. In the case of Reverend Golightly, she had only just learned who he was when he was exposed as the killer, responsible for Roger's death, and ended up being killed himself. She also was present to hear that the reason he became a killer at all was because he was {{Mind Rape}}d [[MakesSenseInContext by her favorite Agatha Christie book book]] she loved so much and just happened to be reading at the wrong time, never realizing the significance of the Firestone her dead lover had given her. The poor woman has no surviving children and will be forced to live with the trauma, guilt, and grief for the rest of her life. And you thought her [[TheAlcoholic drinking problem]] [[DrowningMySorrows was bad enough already]]. The narrative doesn't pause to reflect on any of this because it's so focused on Agatha as the main guest character.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FridgeHorror: By the end of the episode, Lady Eddison loses not only her devoted maid she'd known for at least 40 years and had as TheConfidant, but also both of her sons. In the case of Reverend Golightly, she had only just learned who he was when he was exposed as the killer, responsible for Roger's death, and ended up being killed himself. She also was present to hear that the reason he became a killer at all was because he was {{Mind Rape}}d by her favorite Agatha Christie book she loved so much and just happened to be reading at the wrong time, never realizing the significance of the Firestone her dead lover had given her. The poor woman has no surviving children and will be forced to live with the trauma, guilt, and grief for the rest of her life. And you thought her [[TheAlcoholic drinking problem]] [[DrowningMySorrows was bad enough already]]. The narrative doesn't pause to reflect on any of this because it's so focused on Agatha as the main guest character.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* InternetBackdraft: Another Creator/RussellTDavies-era blistering assault on those who aren't irreligious. And it wasn't even his doing this time. Many Christians felt like they had a bunch of actual wasps jammed down their throats with this aforementioned piece of dialogue.

to:

* InternetBackdraft: Another Creator/RussellTDavies-era blistering assault on those who aren't irreligious. And it wasn't even his doing this time. Many Christians felt like they had a bunch of actual wasps jammed down their throats with this aforementioned piece of dialogue.

Added: 4

Changed: 154

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Keep in mind]] this is a show produced in Europe, home of the Catholic Church, and the country's views on religion can strongly differ from those in America.
* InternetBackdraft: Another Creator/RussellTDavies-era blistering assault on those who aren't irreligious. And it wasn't even his doing this time. Many Christians felt like they had a bunch of actual wasps jammed down their throats with this aforementioned piece of dialogue.

to:

** For American readers, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Keep keep in mind]] this is a show produced in Europe, home of the Catholic Church, and Church. The cracks made towards the country's views on religion can strongly differ from those in America.
faith aren't necessarily aimed beyond the borders of Europe.
* InternetBackdraft: Another Creator/RussellTDavies-era blistering assault on those who aren't irreligious. And it wasn't even his doing this time. Many Christians felt like they had a bunch of actual wasps jammed down their throats with this aforementioned piece of dialogue.dialogue.
----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Keep in mind]] this is a show produced in Europe, home of the Catholic Church, and the country's views on religion can strongly differ from those in America.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AcceptableTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]] and [[UsefulNotes/TheCatholicChurch Catholicism]]. The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Catholic priest when his disguise falters, calling it primitive. Needless to say, this scene did ''not'' go over well with those genuninely of the cloth and actual Christians.

to:

* AcceptableTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]] and [[UsefulNotes/TheCatholicChurch Christians]], with emphasis on [[ChristianityIsCatholic Catholicism]]. The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Catholic priest when his disguise falters, calling it primitive. Needless to say, this scene did ''not'' go over well with those genuninely of the cloth and actual Christians.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AcceptableTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]] and [[UsefulNotes/TheCatholicChurxh Catholicism]] The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Catholic priest, calling it primitive. Needless to say, this scene did ''not'' go over well with those genuninely of the cloth and actual Christians.

to:

* AcceptableTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]] and [[UsefulNotes/TheCatholicChurxh Catholicism]] [[UsefulNotes/TheCatholicChurch Catholicism]]. The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Catholic priest, priest when his disguise falters, calling it primitive. Needless to say, this scene did ''not'' go over well with those genuninely of the cloth and actual Christians.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AcceptibleTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]] and [[UsefulNotes/{{Catholicism}}]] The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Catholic priest. Needless to say, this scene did ''not'' go over well with those of the cloth and actual Christians.
* InternetBackdraft: Another Creator/RussellTDavies-era blistering assault on those who aren't irreligious. And it wasn't even his doing this time. Many Christians felt like they had a bunch of actual wasps jammed down their throats with this dialogue.

to:

* AcceptibleTargets: AcceptableTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]] and [[UsefulNotes/{{Catholicism}}]] [[UsefulNotes/TheCatholicChurxh Catholicism]] The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Catholic priest. priest, calling it primitive. Needless to say, this scene did ''not'' go over well with those genuninely of the cloth and actual Christians.
* InternetBackdraft: Another Creator/RussellTDavies-era blistering assault on those who aren't irreligious. And it wasn't even his doing this time. Many Christians felt like they had a bunch of actual wasps jammed down their throats with this aforementioned piece of dialogue.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AcceptibleTargets: [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Christians]] and [[UsefulNotes/{{Catholicism}}]] The Vespiform completely badmouths the religion he's trying to impersonate as a fake Catholic priest. Needless to say, this scene did ''not'' go over well with those of the cloth and actual Christians.
* InternetBackdraft: Another Creator/RussellTDavies-era blistering assault on those who aren't irreligious. And it wasn't even his doing this time. Many Christians felt like they had a bunch of actual wasps jammed down their throats with this dialogue.

Top