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* TheScrappy: As a result of ValuesDissonance, many modern readers have genuinely come to loathe Henmi due to the age gap between him and Kaoru [[spoiler:and the fact that she ultimately ends up marrying him.]]
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Mariko's distrust of Henmi and Takashi is initially presented as unjustified paranoia of the male gender and another example of her personality issues. However, recent readings of the character tend to note her dislike of them comes off as more understandable due to Takashi's "not all men" arguments and overall pushiness towards her, as well as the age gap between Henmi and Kaoru.
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* NotBadassEnoughForFans: If you watch this series on Website/YouTube, PLEASE be careful while reading the comments. Lots of people there love to bash Nanako and call her "weak" or "stupid" for not kicking off her bullies.
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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: If you watch this series on Website/YouTube, PLEASE be careful while reading the comments. Lots of people there love to bash Nanako and call her "weak" or "stupid" for not kicking off her bullies.
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* DiagnosedByTheAudience: Mariko displays behaviour consistent with BPD. She's given to mood swings, tangles with deep-seated abandonment issues, and prioritises the one friendship she's able to foster to the insistent exclusion of those in her object of affection's life; she comes on too strong, gets too attached, and places great personal worth on this bond; and when [[spoiler:faced with its loss, she grows depressed to the point of self-harm.]] Assuredly a product of her [[FreudianExcuse troubled home life]].
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Between Nanako's CharacterShilling of the man and the generous filter Mariko gives [[spoiler:the paltry living arrangements she and her divorced mother must now acclimate to,]] the grace the narrative accords Hikawa Shinobu can come off as unearned.
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** Lots of people are weirded out when the Seiran students make such a huge deal of [[spoiler: Nanako's mother being re-married to Professor Misonou (aka Takehiko's estranged father)]], but [[FridgeBrilliance it makes more sense]] when we remember that the Japanese society's stance on divorce, adoption, and SinsOfOurFathers are pretty different to the ones in the West. And there's also the fact that ''this'' particular manga was written in TheSeventies...
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** [[spoiler:Nanako]] sometimes [[AdoptionAngst angsts about being an adoptive child]]. Even more so, [[spoiler:her stepbrother Takehiko (the "Oniisama") is taken away from his dad/Nanako's adoptive father when his parents get divorced and they're not in contact for years: this is because Japanese divorce laws are ''very'' different from those in North America and Europe, and since Takehiko's mother was the one who filed for divorce, she got full custody and Takehiko simply was ''not'' allowed to meet with Professor Misono.]]
** Lots of people are weirded out when the Seiran students make such a huge deal of[[spoiler: Nanako's [[spoiler:Nanako's mother being re-married to Professor Misonou Misonoo (aka Takehiko's estranged father)]], but [[FridgeBrilliance it makes more sense]] when we remember that the Japanese society's stance on divorce, adoption, and SinsOfOurFathers are pretty different to the ones in the West. North America or Europe. And there's also the fact that ''this'' particular manga was written in TheSeventies...TheSeventies.
** Lots of people are weirded out when the Seiran students make such a huge deal of
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* MoralEventHorizon: Some people consider [[spoiler: Fukiko's '''horrifyingly''' cruel TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Rei]] in the manga to be this. Specially because [[spoiler: Rei ends up commiting suicide few afterwards.]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: Some people consider [[spoiler: Fukiko's '''horrifyingly''' cruel TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Rei]] in the manga to be this. Specially because [[spoiler: Rei ends up commiting committing suicide few afterwards.]]
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: A story filled with themes of drug addiction, suicide, depression, breast cancer and clear yuri undertones, yet published in a magazine aimed primarily at young girls. In full effect on the heavily cencored french censored French dub of the anime, even worse on the ill-fated greek Greek dub that was cancelled during the third episode's broadcast.
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* IronWoobie: Kaoru and Takehiko. Kaoru does what she can to deal with her woobielicious best friend Rei being totally broken, with trying to support Nanako so she won't be fully broken as well, [[spoiler: and her own ailing health]]; meanwhile, [[spoiler: her boyfriend/eventual husband]] Takehiko almost always smiles kindly and tries to be a good friend, despite how [[spoiler: he can't tell Nanako that he's her stepbrother aside of her pen-pal, which puts quite the spin in their interactions, as well as his own relationship with Kaoru. (And we're not counting the manga, in which Kaoru actually ''dies'' a while after they reconcile...)]]
* JerkAssWoobie: Mariko and [[spoiler: anime Aya]]. Mariko is utterly clingy and possessive of Nanako, [[spoiler: to homicidal ''and'' self-destructive degrees]], and can be a bitch to Tomoko in the beginning. She's also among the few willing to protect Nanako from bullies and help her in the Sorority, and is genuinely fucked up [[spoiler: from her parents's MESSY divorce, which drives her to almost kill herself]]; not to mention-- gosh, when [[PetTheDog she shows a sweeter side]], you almost wanna say "Mariko why so {{moe}}"? On the other hand, [[spoiler: Aya Misaki]]'s JAW phase comes very late in the TV series: for all of her horrifying, bitchiness, we learn that she has [[spoiler: enormous inner self-hate]], ''and'' [[spoiler: she almost kills herself after the TakingTheHeat incident.]]
* JerkAssWoobie: Mariko and [[spoiler: anime Aya]]. Mariko is utterly clingy and possessive of Nanako, [[spoiler: to homicidal ''and'' self-destructive degrees]], and can be a bitch to Tomoko in the beginning. She's also among the few willing to protect Nanako from bullies and help her in the Sorority, and is genuinely fucked up [[spoiler: from her parents's MESSY divorce, which drives her to almost kill herself]]; not to mention-- gosh, when [[PetTheDog she shows a sweeter side]], you almost wanna say "Mariko why so {{moe}}"? On the other hand, [[spoiler: Aya Misaki]]'s JAW phase comes very late in the TV series: for all of her horrifying, bitchiness, we learn that she has [[spoiler: enormous inner self-hate]], ''and'' [[spoiler: she almost kills herself after the TakingTheHeat incident.]]
* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: A story filled with themes of drug addiction, suicide, depression, breast cancer and clear yuri undertones, yet published in a magazine aimed primarily at young girls. In full effect on the heavily cencored french dub of the anime, even worse on the ill-fated greek dub that was cancelled during the third episode's broadcast.
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* IronWoobie[=/=]StoicWoobie: Kaoru and Takehiko. Kaoru does what she can to deal with her woobielicious best friend Rei being totally broken, with trying to support Nanako so she won't be fully broken as well, [[spoiler: and her own ailing health]]; meanwhile, [[spoiler: her boyfriend/eventual husband]] Takehiko almost always smiles kindly and tries to be a good friend, despite how [[spoiler: he can't tell Nanako that he's her stepbrother aside of her pen-pal, which puts quite the spin in their interactions, as well as his own relationship with Kaoru. (And we're not counting the manga, in which Kaoru actually ''dies'' a while after they reconcile...)]]
* JerkAssWoobie: Mariko and [[spoiler: anime Aya]]. Mariko is utterly clingy and possessive of Nanako, [[spoiler: to homicidal ''and'' self-destructive degrees]], and can be a bitch to Tomoko in the beginning. She's also among the few willing to protect Nanako from bullies and help her in the Sorority, and is genuinely fucked up [[spoiler: from her parents's MESSY divorce, which drives her to almost kill herself]]; not to mention-- gosh, when [[PetTheDog she shows a sweeter side]], you almost wanna say "Mariko why so {{moe}}"? On the other hand, [[spoiler: Aya Misaki]]'s JAW phase comes very late in the TV series: for all of her horrifying, bitchiness, we learn that she has [[spoiler: enormous inner self-hate]], ''and'' [[spoiler: she almost kills herself after the TakingTheHeat incident.]]
* JerkAssWoobie: Mariko and [[spoiler: anime Aya]]. Mariko is utterly clingy and possessive of Nanako, [[spoiler: to homicidal ''and'' self-destructive degrees]], and can be a bitch to Tomoko in the beginning. She's also among the few willing to protect Nanako from bullies and help her in the Sorority, and is genuinely fucked up [[spoiler: from her parents's MESSY divorce, which drives her to almost kill herself]]; not to mention-- gosh, when [[PetTheDog she shows a sweeter side]], you almost wanna say "Mariko why so {{moe}}"? On the other hand, [[spoiler: Aya Misaki]]'s JAW phase comes very late in the TV series: for all of her horrifying, bitchiness, we learn that she has [[spoiler: enormous inner self-hate]], ''and'' [[spoiler: she almost kills herself after the TakingTheHeat incident.]]
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* UnfortunateImplications: Kaoru [[spoiler: marrying Henmi]] in a poofy wedding dress, wearing makeup, skirts and growing out her hair following [[spoiler: the birth of her child]]. Comparing that to what Kaoru wears in the manga for her [[https://mangadex.org/chapter/202412/20 "wedding"]], the anime version gives the message that, while it's fine for a woman to wear gender-nonconforming fashions, she must immediately cast aside all of that the moment she is married to a man.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Kaoru [[spoiler: marrying Henmi]] in a poofy wedding dress, wearing makeup, skirts and growing out her hair following [[spoiler: the birth of her child]]. Comparing that to what Kaoru wears in the manga for her [https://mangadex.[[https://mangadex.org/chapter/202412/20 "wedding"], "wedding"]], the anime version gives the message that, while it's fine for a woman to wear gender-nonconforming fashions, she must immediately cast aside all of that the moment she is married to a man.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Kaoru [[spoiler: marrying Henmi]] in a poofy wedding dress, wearing makeup, skirts and growing out her hair following [[spoiler: the birth of her child]]. Comparing that to what Kaoru wears in the manga for her [https://mangadex.org/chapter/202412/20 "wedding"], the anime version gives the message that, while it's fine for a woman to wear gender-nonconforming fashions, she must immediately cast aside all of that the moment she is married to a man.
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* {{Narm}}: As influential as the series is, it can be ''very'' melodramatic, and as a result a lot of its serious moments can come across as unintentionally funny.
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** Fukiko receiving presents from her guests during her birthday party. Not only is she sitting down (in the center of the room, surrounded by people standing up) while being handed her presents, but people ''kneel'' in front of her while handing her their gifts as if she was a genuine royal. It's meant to show her high status, but it comes off looking ridiculously smarmy and pretentious.
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** Rei has some with Kaoru, then some more with Nanako. [[spoiler: She also has it with Fukiko, but...]]
** Tomoko and Nanako's relationship is pretty much a textbook RomanticTwoGirlFriendship.
** And let's not forget Mariko and Nanako, either?
* MemeticMutation: Mariko's quite quotable. You'll see screencaps from her floating around from time to time.
* MisaimedFandom: Some fans see Mariko's [[DoesNotLikeMen hatred of men]] as something to glamorize or cheer for... "forgetting" that it's a sign of the trauma coming from her DarkAndTroubledPast, so it's supposed to be a sign [[BrokenBird of how messed up she is]]. Even the single time it's PlayedForLaughs isn't exactly supposed to show her in the right, but as a proof of her immaturity - she's lashing out at two guys, Takehiko and Takeshi, who not only haven't done anything to deserve it, ''but wouldn't be half as cruel to women as she thinks they'd be''.
* MoralEventHorizon: Some people consider [[spoiler: Fukiko's '''horrifyingly''' cruel TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Rei]] in the manga to be this. Specially because [[spoiler: Rei ends up commiting suicide few afterwards.]]
* {{Narm}}:
** A non-drama example: Aya Misaki's horrible puffy hair. May have been in vogue in TheSeventies when the series was written, but now...
** The ridiculously exaggerated faces Aya makes after [[spoiler: Mariko slashes her with her boxcutter.]]
** In the third episode, [[spoiler: when Aya and her GirlPosse bully Nanako in English class and almost everyone joins in until Kaoru intervenes]], the absolute incompetence of the teacher makes the whole drama bomb almost comical. One can understand being put off by [[spoiler: a bunch of schoolgirls whining in the middle of a lecture]], but letting a kid half his age put order? What kind of teacher is this?!
** Mariko's [[ShowerOfAngst hot bath of angst]] is rather sad... until she starts floating down on her belly, with her bare ass sticking up. How the HELL didn't the people in charge of that scene notice how stupid it looked?!
** The anime scene where [[spoiler: Kaoru strips naked to show Takehiko her mastectomy scars]] loses almost all its dramatic weight when the viewer sees that she did it ''out in the open, in the middle of a (thankfully empty) road''. Having it take place in a private space or an [[spoiler: hospital room]] wouldn't have been so bad, but more than one viewer almost expected [[spoiler: Kaoru being caught by the police and arrested for indecent exposure]], or something. Thank God she apparently thought about it later and [[spoiler: opened her shirt to show the scars to Nanako in a secluded spot of the school]] later...
* ValuesDissonance:
** Lots of people are weirded out when the Seiran students make such a huge deal of [[spoiler: Nanako's mother being re-married to Professor Misonou (aka Takehiko's estranged father)]], but [[FridgeBrilliance it makes more sense]] when we remember that the Japanese society's stance on divorce, adoption, and SinsOfOurFathers are pretty different to the ones in the West. And there's also the fact that ''this'' particular manga was written in TheSeventies...
** Despite being seen as a landmark yuri series, it has quite a few outdated issues due to being from the 1970s. Most obviously is [[spoiler:many of the characters ending up with men in the end]].
* {{Wangst}}: Fukiko, who can''not'' get over the fact that [[spoiler:Takehiko didn't come to her violin recital when she was 12]]... which happened six years ago. Lampshaded by Rei in episode 25, when recalling her and Fukiko's first meeting. Young Fukiko was in tears over being shabbily treated at a friend's party (read: she didn't like the seat she was given) and young Rei was all "... is that ALL?!"
* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: If you watch this series on Website/YouTube, PLEASE be careful while reading the comments. Lots of people there love to bash Nanako and call her "weak" or "stupid" for not kicking off her bullies.
* IronWoobie[=/=]StoicWoobie: Kaoru and Takehiko. Kaoru does what she can to deal with her woobielicious best friend Rei being totally broken, with trying to support Nanako so she won't be fully broken as well, [[spoiler: and her own ailing health]]; meanwhile, [[spoiler: her boyfriend/eventual husband]] Takehiko almost always smiles kindly and tries to be a good friend, despite how [[spoiler: he can't tell Nanako that he's her stepbrother aside of her pen-pal, which puts quite the spin in their interactions, as well as his own relationship with Kaoru. (And we're not counting the manga, in which Kaoru actually ''dies'' a while after they reconcile...)]]
* JerkAssWoobie: Mariko and [[spoiler: anime Aya]]. Mariko is utterly clingy and possessive of Nanako, [[spoiler: to homicidal ''and'' self-destructive degrees]], and can be a bitch to Tomoko in the beginning. She's also among the few willing to protect Nanako from bullies and help her in the Sorority, and is genuinely fucked up [[spoiler: from her parents's MESSY divorce, which drives her to almost kill herself]]; not to mention-- gosh, when [[PetTheDog she shows a sweeter side]], you almost wanna say "Mariko why so {{moe}}"? On the other hand, [[spoiler: Aya Misaki]]'s JAW phase comes very late in the TV series: for all of her horrifying, bitchiness, we learn that she has [[spoiler: enormous inner self-hate]], ''and'' [[spoiler: she almost kills herself after the TakingTheHeat incident.]]
* TheWoobie:
** Nanako and Rei. Poor little Nanako, so sweet and so kicked around by life itself. And poor Rei, so utterly broken ever since she was a little girl. Also, episode 15 brings [[RememberTheNewGuy a character we didn't know about]], then [[BreakTheCutie breaks her]], and makes her this. [[spoiler: Poor, ''poor'' Junko.]]
** Mrs. Asaka. She was a maid working in the Ichinomiya household when she entered into an affair with her married employer (although she was most likely seduced), an affair which produced [[spoiler: Fukiko and Rei]]. Then she had to essentially give up one of her daughters to her employer and his wife. Because of her unmarried status and her two illegitimate children, her chances of marrying anyone else were slim to none in the traditional Japanese society of the 70s. She eventually reached her DespairEventHorizon and committed suicide in front of her young daughter.
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** Rei has some with Kaoru, then some more with Nanako. [[spoiler: She also has it with Fukiko, but...]]
** Tomoko and Nanako's relationship is pretty much a textbook RomanticTwoGirlFriendship.
** And let's not forget Mariko and Nanako, either?
* MemeticMutation: Mariko's quite quotable. You'll see screencaps from her floating around from time to time.
* MisaimedFandom: Some fans see Mariko's [[DoesNotLikeMen hatred of men]] as something to glamorize or cheer for... "forgetting" that it's a sign of the trauma coming from her DarkAndTroubledPast, so it's supposed to be a sign [[BrokenBird of how messed up she is]]. Even the single time it's PlayedForLaughs isn't exactly supposed to show her in the right, but as a proof of her immaturity - she's lashing out at two guys, Takehiko and Takeshi, who not only haven't done anything to deserve it, ''but wouldn't be half as cruel to women as she thinks they'd be''.
* MoralEventHorizon: Some people consider [[spoiler: Fukiko's '''horrifyingly''' cruel TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Rei]] in the manga to be this. Specially because [[spoiler: Rei ends up commiting suicide few afterwards.]]
* {{Narm}}:
** A non-drama example: Aya Misaki's horrible puffy hair. May have been in vogue in TheSeventies when the series was written, but now...
** The ridiculously exaggerated faces Aya makes after [[spoiler: Mariko slashes her with her boxcutter.]]
** In the third episode, [[spoiler: when Aya and her GirlPosse bully Nanako in English class and almost everyone joins in until Kaoru intervenes]], the absolute incompetence of the teacher makes the whole drama bomb almost comical. One can understand being put off by [[spoiler: a bunch of schoolgirls whining in the middle of a lecture]], but letting a kid half his age put order? What kind of teacher is this?!
** Mariko's [[ShowerOfAngst hot bath of angst]] is rather sad... until she starts floating down on her belly, with her bare ass sticking up. How the HELL didn't the people in charge of that scene notice how stupid it looked?!
** The anime scene where [[spoiler: Kaoru strips naked to show Takehiko her mastectomy scars]] loses almost all its dramatic weight when the viewer sees that she did it ''out in the open, in the middle of a (thankfully empty) road''. Having it take place in a private space or an [[spoiler: hospital room]] wouldn't have been so bad, but more than one viewer almost expected [[spoiler: Kaoru being caught by the police and arrested for indecent exposure]], or something. Thank God she apparently thought about it later and [[spoiler: opened her shirt to show the scars to Nanako in a secluded spot of the school]] later...
* ValuesDissonance:
** Lots of people are weirded out when the Seiran students make such a huge deal of [[spoiler: Nanako's mother being re-married to Professor Misonou (aka Takehiko's estranged father)]], but [[FridgeBrilliance it makes more sense]] when we remember that the Japanese society's stance on divorce, adoption, and SinsOfOurFathers are pretty different to the ones in the West. And there's also the fact that ''this'' particular manga was written in TheSeventies...
** Despite being seen as a landmark yuri series, it has quite a few outdated issues due to being from the 1970s. Most obviously is [[spoiler:many of the characters ending up with men in the end]].
* {{Wangst}}: Fukiko, who can''not'' get over the fact that [[spoiler:Takehiko didn't come to her violin recital when she was 12]]... which happened six years ago. Lampshaded by Rei in episode 25, when recalling her and Fukiko's first meeting. Young Fukiko was in tears over being shabbily treated at a friend's party (read: she didn't like the seat she was given) and young Rei was all "... is that ALL?!"
* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: If you watch this series on Website/YouTube, PLEASE be careful while reading the comments. Lots of people there love to bash Nanako and call her "weak" or "stupid" for not kicking off her bullies.
* IronWoobie[=/=]StoicWoobie: Kaoru and Takehiko. Kaoru does what she can to deal with her woobielicious best friend Rei being totally broken, with trying to support Nanako so she won't be fully broken as well, [[spoiler: and her own ailing health]]; meanwhile, [[spoiler: her boyfriend/eventual husband]] Takehiko almost always smiles kindly and tries to be a good friend, despite how [[spoiler: he can't tell Nanako that he's her stepbrother aside of her pen-pal, which puts quite the spin in their interactions, as well as his own relationship with Kaoru. (And we're not counting the manga, in which Kaoru actually ''dies'' a while after they reconcile...)]]
* JerkAssWoobie: Mariko and [[spoiler: anime Aya]]. Mariko is utterly clingy and possessive of Nanako, [[spoiler: to homicidal ''and'' self-destructive degrees]], and can be a bitch to Tomoko in the beginning. She's also among the few willing to protect Nanako from bullies and help her in the Sorority, and is genuinely fucked up [[spoiler: from her parents's MESSY divorce, which drives her to almost kill herself]]; not to mention-- gosh, when [[PetTheDog she shows a sweeter side]], you almost wanna say "Mariko why so {{moe}}"? On the other hand, [[spoiler: Aya Misaki]]'s JAW phase comes very late in the TV series: for all of her horrifying, bitchiness, we learn that she has [[spoiler: enormous inner self-hate]], ''and'' [[spoiler: she almost kills herself after the TakingTheHeat incident.]]
* TheWoobie:
** Nanako and Rei. Poor little Nanako, so sweet and so kicked around by life itself. And poor Rei, so utterly broken ever since she was a little girl. Also, episode 15 brings [[RememberTheNewGuy a character we didn't know about]], then [[BreakTheCutie breaks her]], and makes her this. [[spoiler: Poor, ''poor'' Junko.]]
** Mrs. Asaka. She was a maid working in the Ichinomiya household when she entered into an affair with her married employer (although she was most likely seduced), an affair which produced [[spoiler: Fukiko and Rei]]. Then she had to essentially give up one of her daughters to her employer and his wife. Because of her unmarried status and her two illegitimate children, her chances of marrying anyone else were slim to none in the traditional Japanese society of the 70s. She eventually reached her DespairEventHorizon and committed suicide in front of her young daughter.
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