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* {{Woobie}}: Whenever Paul talks about his life as a young adult, or the time surrounding Chuck Shuldiner's death. It's pretty clear that he had a very troubled life when he was in his early-mid 20s and that Chuck's passing really did affect him a lot.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The video for "King Of Those Who Know". The footage was apparently stolen by the director and never returned to the band.
** The cancelled Cynic/Onward With Love European tour, the booking of which caused Sean to leave Cynic permanently.
** It's also worth noting that if Sean and Paul had stayed in Death, Cynic's debut album would probably have never been recorded.

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* {{Woobie}}: Whenever Paul talks about his life as a young adult, or the time surrounding Chuck Shuldiner's death. It's pretty clear that he had a very troubled life when he was in his early-mid 20s and that Chuck's passing really did affect him a lot.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The video for "King Of Those Who Know". The footage was apparently stolen by the director and never returned to the band.
** The cancelled Cynic/Onward With Love European tour, the booking of which caused Sean to leave Cynic permanently.
** It's also worth noting that if Sean and Paul had stayed in Death, Cynic's debut album would probably have never been recorded.
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* CloudCuckoolander: Paul is this, to an almost worrying extent. Just listen to the way he talks during interviews, or read his responses to various accusations of him [[TookALevelInJerkass taking a rather large level in jerkass]] towards his former bandmates. His lyrics don't help him look any less like one either.
** His attempts to try and get the audience to do ''yoga, of all things'' during live shows. This would be a SugarWiki/{{Funny Moment|s}} if it wasn't for the fact that Paul always does this '''WITH A COMPLETELY STRAIGHT FACE AND WITH NO COMEDY OR IRONY WHATSOEVER'''.
** "The Philosopher", [[Music/{{Death}} Death's]] TakeThat song directed at him, [[CaptainObvious couldn't make it any more obvious]] that he is one:
--->"There is a line you must draw between your dream world and reality."
* DrugsAreGood: "Elves Beam Out". Well, psychedelic ones anyway...



* ItsAllAboutMe: Sean claimed this as the reason why he ultimately left the band. He felt that Paul was trying to make Cynic all about himself at the cost of the other members. Paul booking his side project Onward With Love on a European tour ([[WhatCouldHaveBeen which was later cancelled]]) sent Sean into overdrive.
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* BaseBreaker: Paul's vocoder-effected vocals. A lot of people are turned off the band by how they sound.
** It may be part of the reason why the band decided to stop using them after ''Traced in Air''. They don't even use the vocoder effects during live performances of the older material any more.
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** His attempts to try and get the audience to do ''yoga, of all things'' during live shows. This would be a CrowningMomentOfFunny if it wasn't for the fact that Paul always does this '''WITH A COMPLETELY STRAIGHT FACE AND WITH NO COMEDY OR IRONY WHATSOEVER'''.

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** His attempts to try and get the audience to do ''yoga, of all things'' during live shows. This would be a CrowningMomentOfFunny SugarWiki/{{Funny Moment|s}} if it wasn't for the fact that Paul always does this '''WITH A COMPLETELY STRAIGHT FACE AND WITH NO COMEDY OR IRONY WHATSOEVER'''.
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* BaseBreaker: Paul's vocoder-effected vocals. A lot of people are turned off the band by how they sound. It may be part of the reason why the band decided to stop using them after ''Traced in Air''.

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* BaseBreaker: Paul's vocoder-effected vocals. A lot of people are turned off the band by how they sound. sound.
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It may be part of the reason why the band decided to stop using them after ''Traced in Air''.Air''. They don't even use the vocoder effects during live performances of the older material any more.
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* BaseBreaker: Paul's vocoder-effected vocals. A lot of people are turned off the band by how they sound. It may be part of the reason why the band decided to stop using them after ''Traced in Air''.
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* FollowTheLeader: the music of [[PromotedFanboy Promoted Fanboys]] Tymon and Robin (Exivious) and Max (Exist) have a very similar sound to ''Focus'' era Cynic. Exist is much DarkerAndEdgier though.

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* FollowTheLeader: the music of [[PromotedFanboy Promoted Fanboys]] Tymon and Robin (Exivious) and Max (Exist) have a very similar sound to ''Focus'' era Cynic. Exist is much DarkerAndEdgier though.and Exivious is completely instrumental.
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* FollowTheLeader: the music of [[PromotedFanboy Promoted Fanboys]] Tymon and Robin (Exivious) and Max (Exist) have a very similar sound to ''Focus'' era Cynic. Exist is much DarkerAndEdgier though.
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** The cancelled Cynic/Onward With Love European tour, the booking of which caused Sean to leave Cynic permanently.

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** The cancelled Cynic/Onward With Love European tour, the booking of which caused Sean to leave Cynic permanently.permanently.
** It's also worth noting that if Sean and Paul had stayed in Death, Cynic's debut album would probably have never been recorded.
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** "The Philosopher", [[Music/{{Death}} Death's]] TakeThat song directed at him:

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** "The Philosopher", [[Music/{{Death}} Death's]] TakeThat song directed at him:him, [[CaptainObvious couldn't make it any more obvious]] that he is one:

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** "The Philosopher", Chuck Shuldiner's TakeThat song directed at him, alludes to this a lot. Especially the comment about Paul not even knowing his own sexuality because he's in so much denial about real life.

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** "The Philosopher", Chuck Shuldiner's [[Music/{{Death}} Death's]] TakeThat song directed at him, alludes to this him:
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a lot. Especially the comment about Paul not even knowing his own sexuality because he's in so much denial about real life.line you must draw between your dream world and reality."
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* ItsAllAboutMe: Sean claimed this as the reason why he ultimately left the band. He felt that Paul was trying to make Cynic all about himself at the cost of the other members. Paul booking his side project Onward With Love on a European tour ([[WhatCouldHaveBeen which was later cancelled]]) sent Sean into [[BeserkButton overdrive]].

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* ItsAllAboutMe: Sean claimed this as the reason why he ultimately left the band. He felt that Paul was trying to make Cynic all about himself at the cost of the other members. Paul booking his side project Onward With Love on a European tour ([[WhatCouldHaveBeen which was later cancelled]]) sent Sean into [[BeserkButton overdrive]].overdrive.
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* ItsAllAboutMe: Sean claimed this as the reason why he ultimately left the band. He felt that Paul was trying to make Cynic all about himself at the cost of the other members. Paul booking his side project Onward With Love on a European tour ([[WhatCouldHaveBeen which was later cancelled]]) sent Sean into [[BeserkButton overdrive]].



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The video for "King Of Those Who Know". The footage was apparently stolen by the director and never returned to the band.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The video for "King Of Those Who Know". The footage was apparently stolen by the director and never returned to the band.band.
** The cancelled Cynic/Onward With Love European tour, the booking of which caused Sean to leave Cynic permanently.
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* {{Woobie}}: Whenever Paul talks about his life as a young adult, or the time surrounding Chuck Shuldiner's death. It's pretty clear that he had a very troubled life when he was in his early-mid 20s and that Chuck's passing really did affect him a lot.

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* {{Woobie}}: Whenever Paul talks about his life as a young adult, or the time surrounding Chuck Shuldiner's death. It's pretty clear that he had a very troubled life when he was in his early-mid 20s and that Chuck's passing really did affect him a lot.lot.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The video for "King Of Those Who Know". The footage was apparently stolen by the director and never returned to the band.

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* DrugsAreGood: "Elves Beam Out". Well, psychedelic ones anyway...



* {{Woobie}}: Whenever Paul talks about his life as a young adult, or the time surrounding Chuck Shuldiner's death. It's pretty clear that he had a very troubled life when he was in his early-mid 20s.

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* {{Woobie}}: Whenever Paul talks about his life as a young adult, or the time surrounding Chuck Shuldiner's death. It's pretty clear that he had a very troubled life when he was in his early-mid 20s.20s and that Chuck's passing really did affect him a lot.
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* Woobie: Whenever Paul talks about his life as a young adult, or the time surrounding Chuck Shuldiner's death. It's pretty clear that he had a very troubled life when he was in his early-mid 20s.

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* Woobie: {{Woobie}}: Whenever Paul talks about his life as a young adult, or the time surrounding Chuck Shuldiner's death. It's pretty clear that he had a very troubled life when he was in his early-mid 20s.
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* FirstInstallmentWins: While most of their material is quite well liked, ''Focus'' seems to be by a wide margin their most beloved record.

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* FirstInstallmentWins: While most of their material is quite well liked, ''Focus'' seems to be by a wide margin their most beloved record.record.
* Woobie: Whenever Paul talks about his life as a young adult, or the time surrounding Chuck Shuldiner's death. It's pretty clear that he had a very troubled life when he was in his early-mid 20s.
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** "The Philosopher", Chuck Shuldiner's TakeThat song directed at him, alludes to this a lot. Especially the comment about Paul not even knowing his own sexuality because he's in so much denial about real life.
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** His attempts to try and get the audience to do '''YOGA''' during live shows. This would be a CrowningMomentOfFunny if it wasn't for the fact that Paul always does this '''WITH A COMPLETELY STRAIGHT FACE AND WITH NO COMEDY OR IRONY WHATSOEVER'''.

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** His attempts to try and get the audience to do '''YOGA''' ''yoga, of all things'' during live shows. This would be a CrowningMomentOfFunny if it wasn't for the fact that Paul always does this '''WITH A COMPLETELY STRAIGHT FACE AND WITH NO COMEDY OR IRONY WHATSOEVER'''.
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** His attempts to try and get the audience to do '''YOGA''' during live shows. This would be a CrowningMomentOfFunny if it wasn't for the fact that Paul always does this '''WITH A COMPLETELY STRAIGHT FACE'''.

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** His attempts to try and get the audience to do '''YOGA''' during live shows. This would be a CrowningMomentOfFunny if it wasn't for the fact that Paul always does this '''WITH A COMPLETELY STRAIGHT FACE'''.FACE AND WITH NO COMEDY OR IRONY WHATSOEVER'''.
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** His attempts to try and get the audience to do '''YOGA''' during live shows. This would be a CrowningMomentOfFunny if it wasn't for the fact that Paul always does this '''WITH A COMPLETELY STRAIGHT FACE'''.

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* CloudCuckoolander: Paul is this, to an almost worrying extent.
** Just listen to the way he talks during interviews.
** Or read his responses to various accusations of him [[TookALevelInJerkass taking a rather large level in jerkass]] towards his former bandmates.
** His lyrics don't help him look any less like one either.

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* CloudCuckoolander: Paul is this, to an almost worrying extent.
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extent. Just listen to the way he talks during interviews.
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interviews, or read his responses to various accusations of him [[TookALevelInJerkass taking a rather large level in jerkass]] towards his former bandmates.
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bandmates. His lyrics don't help him look any less like one either.
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** His lyrics don't help this case either.

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** His lyrics don't help this case him look any less like one either.
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** His lyrics don't help this case either.
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** His responses to various accusations of him [[TookALevelInJerkass taking a rather large level in jerkass]] towards his former bandmates.

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** His Or read his responses to various accusations of him [[TookALevelInJerkass taking a rather large level in jerkass]] towards his former bandmates.
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* CloudCuckoolander: Paul is this, to an almost worrying extent.
** Just listen to the way he talks during interviews.
** His responses to various accusations of him [[TookALevelInJerkass taking a rather large level in jerkass]] towards his former bandmates.
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* FirstInstallmentWins: While most of their material is quite well liked, ''Focus'' seems to be by a wide margin their most beloved record.

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