Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / CastlevaniaPortraitOfRuin

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AntiClimaxBoss: [[spoiler:Whip's Memory]] can be cheesed easily with fully-mastered Shuriken or Cream Pies, both of which are excellent air-to-ground attacks for avoid its particularly lethal [[spoiler:whip attack]]. Special note on the Cream Pies: They are dark-elemental, and this boss is one of the few in the entire game to be weak to dark attacks, meaning that it goes down surprisingly fast from a bunch of ''pies''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Creator/TakahiroSakurai's role as [[VampireHunter Jonathan Morris]] is even more hilarious if you know he voiced [[{{Literature/Twilight}} Edward Cullen]] in Japanese, the same kind of monster Jonathan is ''hellbent to destroy''.

to:

** Creator/TakahiroSakurai's role as [[VampireHunter Jonathan Morris]] is even more hilarious if you know he voiced both vampires [[{{Literature/Twilight}} Edward Cullen]] and [[VisualNovel/DiabolikLovers Ruki Mukami]] in Japanese, the same kind of monster Jonathan is ''hellbent to destroy''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


%%** Both GameOver screens.

to:

%%** ** Both GameOver screens.



*** However, it becomes incredibly easy if one takes advantage of the [[spoiler:door: just move Johnathan to right in front of the door, then turn around, activate [[NoSell Stonewall]] and have Charlotte start the spell. Charlotte will be under the overhang so no {{Death From Above}} spells can hit her, while Johnathan blocks all frontal attacks.]] Doing this makes the fight last about as long as it takes Sanctuary to complete.

to:

*** However, it becomes incredibly easy if one takes advantage of the [[spoiler:door: just move Johnathan to right in front of the door, then turn around, activate [[NoSell Stonewall]] Stonewall]], and have Charlotte start the spell. Charlotte will be under the overhang overhang, so no {{Death From Above}} spells can hit her, while Johnathan blocks all frontal attacks.]] Doing this makes the fight last about as long as it takes Sanctuary to complete.



** [[spoiler:Brauner believes Stella and Loretta are his daughters reincarnated, but this is never explored and we don't get any confirmation for one way or the other, though considering his actions and motivations it's hinted that he's just delusional.]]

to:

** [[spoiler:Brauner believes Stella and Loretta are his daughters reincarnated, but this is never explored and we don't get any confirmation for one way or the other, though considering his actions and motivations motivations, it's hinted that he's just delusional.]]



** The UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo setting isn't used to its full potential. There are no Nazis dabbling in [[{{Ghostapo}} the supernatural]] or with [[StupidJetpackHitler super-science]], or [[{{Magitek}} both]]. Given Dracula's AsLongAsThereIsEvil shtick, it could have been an interesting team-up. (Though this might be justified by the game taking place in 1944, one year before the war's end -- the Third Reich was on its last legs.) To compare, ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaBloodlines'' is set in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI and takes you on a tour of Europe for its six stages.

to:

** The UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo setting isn't used to its full potential. There are no Nazis dabbling in [[{{Ghostapo}} the supernatural]] or with [[StupidJetpackHitler super-science]], or [[{{Magitek}} both]]. Given Dracula's AsLongAsThereIsEvil shtick, it could have been an interesting team-up. (Though this might be justified by the game taking place in 1944, one year before the war's end -- the Third Reich was on its last legs.) To compare, ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaBloodlines'' is set in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI and takes you on a tour of Europe for its six stages.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CryForTheDevil: Brauner's actions are objectively monstrous, but when one learns of [[spoiler:his past of him going insane when his two daughters died in WWI and he ''sincerely'' believes Stella and Loretta are his daughters reincarnated, it's hard not to pity his tragic delusions. The icing on the cake is the bad ending, where defeating (as opposed to curing) Stella and Loretta causes Brauner to completely abandon his plans for the sake of saving them instead.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo setting isn't used to its full potential. There are no Nazis dabbling in [[{{Ghostapo}} the supernatural]] or with [[StupidJetpackHitler super-science]], or [[{{Magitek}} both]]. Given Dracula's AsLongAsThereIsEvil shtick, it could have been an interesting team-up. (Though this might be justified by the game taking place in 1944, one year before the war's end -- the Third Reich was on its last legs.) To compare, ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaBloodlines'' is set in UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne and takes you on a tour of Europe for its six stages.

to:

** The UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo setting isn't used to its full potential. There are no Nazis dabbling in [[{{Ghostapo}} the supernatural]] or with [[StupidJetpackHitler super-science]], or [[{{Magitek}} both]]. Given Dracula's AsLongAsThereIsEvil shtick, it could have been an interesting team-up. (Though this might be justified by the game taking place in 1944, one year before the war's end -- the Third Reich was on its last legs.) To compare, ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaBloodlines'' is set in UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI and takes you on a tour of Europe for its six stages.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo setting isn't used to its full potential. There are no Nazis dabbling in [[{{Ghostapo}} the supernatural]] or with [[StupidJetpackHitler super-science]], or [[{{Magitek}} both]]. Given Dracula's AsLongAsThereIsEvil shtick, it could have been an interesting team-up. (Though this might be justified by the game taking place in 1944, one year before the war's end -- the Third Reich was on its last legs.)

to:

** The UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo setting isn't used to its full potential. There are no Nazis dabbling in [[{{Ghostapo}} the supernatural]] or with [[StupidJetpackHitler super-science]], or [[{{Magitek}} both]]. Given Dracula's AsLongAsThereIsEvil shtick, it could have been an interesting team-up. (Though this might be justified by the game taking place in 1944, one year before the war's end -- the Third Reich was on its last legs.)) To compare, ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaBloodlines'' is set in UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne and takes you on a tour of Europe for its six stages.

Added: 549

Changed: 206

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BestBossEver: The final boss fight, a team fight against [[spoiler:Dracula ''and'' Death]] at the same time. For many games, you're told that [[spoiler:Death is Dracula's]] right-hand man; here, you see for yourself why.

to:

* BestBossEver: BestBossEver:
**
The final boss fight, a team fight against [[spoiler:Dracula ''and'' Death]] at the same time. For many games, you're told that [[spoiler:Death is Dracula's]] right-hand man; here, you see for yourself why.why.
** The BonusBoss fight against the Whip's Memory, [[spoiler:a copy of the last Belmont to use the Vampire Killer, namely [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaRondoOfBlood Richter Belmont]]. It's here you see why he's regarded as one of the strongest Belmonts in the series.]] Defeating it unseals the Vampire Killer's [[InfinityPlusOneSword true power]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Localized name is Nation of Fools.


* FridgeHorror: The Circus of Fear. [[spoiler:It's mentioned that Brauner lost his daughters because of the first World War. The painting (and by extension, the stage) shows the aftermath of a circus and town torn apart by war. Put two and two together. Worse, as you go further into the level, the stage gets turned on its side, and then upside down, representing how Brauner's life was literally turned upside down. And then there's the boss...]]

to:

* FridgeHorror: The Circus Nation of Fear.Fools. [[spoiler:It's mentioned that Brauner lost his daughters because of the first World War. The painting (and by extension, the stage) shows the aftermath of a circus and town torn apart by war. Put two and two together. Worse, as you go further into the level, the stage gets turned on its side, and then upside down, representing how Brauner's life was literally turned upside down. And then there's the boss...]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** JONATHAN! CHARLOTTE! JONATHAN! CHARLOTTE!

to:

** JONATHAN! CHARLOTTE! JONATHAN! CHARLOTTE!CHARLOTTE![[note]]Speedrunners quickly alternate between the two characters to exploit a glitch that enables faster movement, leading to the two names being repeated ''ad nauseum'' for most of the playthrough[[/note]]



** Legion, as usual.

to:

** Legion, as usual. A grotesque tentacled demon that protects its core by covering itself with the corpses of countless men.



** Both GameOver screens.

to:

** %%** Both GameOver screens.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Insufficient hate.


* TheScrappy: Vincent's [[NoHeroDiscount refusal to lower his prices]] even after being cured of vampirism has gained him some scrappy status. He's still far more likable than the inheritor of his name in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow'', though.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BestBossEver: The final boss fight, a team fight against [[spoiler:Dracula]] ''and'' [[spoiler:Death]] at the same time. For many games, you're told that [[spoiler:Death]] is [[spoiler:Dracula's]] right-hand man; here, you see for yourself why.

to:

* BestBossEver: The final boss fight, a team fight against [[spoiler:Dracula]] [[spoiler:Dracula ''and'' [[spoiler:Death]] Death]] at the same time. For many games, you're told that [[spoiler:Death]] [[spoiler:Death is [[spoiler:Dracula's]] Dracula's]] right-hand man; here, you see for yourself why.

Added: 431

Changed: 278

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Both GameOver screens. The regular screen is a bloody skull with its mouth open wide as if it were screaming, a sword going through its mouth and a snake in its eye sockets. In Sisters mode, there's a nun crying TearsOfBlood, looking directly [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou at the player]]. Yeeesh.

to:

** Both GameOver screens. screens.
***
The regular screen is a bloody skull with its mouth open wide as if it were screaming, a sword going through its mouth and a snake in its eye sockets. sockets.
***
In Sisters mode, there's a nun crying TearsOfBlood, looking directly [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou at the player]]. Yeeesh.And they're the only pair with a different GameOver screen, so it's extra-startling if you played Richter mode first and were expecting the regular image.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Likewise, [[MsFanservice Astarte]], the 4th boss [[NefariousPharaoh that's based on]] [[TruthInTelevision a real life deity]], ain't half bad either. She is garbed in what can basically be described as a [[{{Stripperific}} golden bikini]], [[SexyWalk constantly struts her stuff]] and [[HartmanHips shakes her hips]] during battle, has lovely tanned skin, and a surprisingly deep yet sexy voice. [[DistractedByTheSexy Even Jonathan thinks she's beautiful]], and that's when he ''isn't'' [[CharmPerson charmed by her.]] What's '''not''' to love?

to:

** Likewise, [[MsFanservice Astarte]], the 4th boss of [[BuildLikeAnEgyptian Sandy Grave]] [[NefariousPharaoh that's based on]] [[TruthInTelevision a real life deity]], ain't half bad either. She is garbed in what can basically be described as a [[{{Stripperific}} golden bikini]], [[SexyWalk constantly struts her stuff]] and [[HartmanHips shakes her hips]] during battle, has lovely tanned skin, and a surprisingly deep yet sexy voice. [[DistractedByTheSexy Even Jonathan thinks she's beautiful]], and that's when he ''isn't'' [[CharmPerson charmed by her.]] What's '''not''' to love?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Likewise, [[MsFanservice Astarte]], the 4th boss [[NefariousPharoah that's based on a real life deity]], ain't half bad either. She is garbed in what can basically be described as a [[Stripperific golden bikini]], [[SexyWalk constantly struts her stuff]] and [[HartmanHips shakes her hips]] during battle, has lovely tanned skin, and a surprisingly deep yet sexy voice. [[DistractedByTheSexy Even Jonathan thinks she's beautiful]], and that's when he ''isn't'' [[CharmPerson charmed by her.]] What's '''not''' to love?

to:

** Likewise, [[MsFanservice Astarte]], the 4th boss [[NefariousPharoah [[NefariousPharaoh that's based on on]] [[TruthInTelevision a real life deity]], ain't half bad either. She is garbed in what can basically be described as a [[Stripperific [[{{Stripperific}} golden bikini]], [[SexyWalk constantly struts her stuff]] and [[HartmanHips shakes her hips]] during battle, has lovely tanned skin, and a surprisingly deep yet sexy voice. [[DistractedByTheSexy Even Jonathan thinks she's beautiful]], and that's when he ''isn't'' [[CharmPerson charmed by her.]] What's '''not''' to love?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Likewise, [[MsFanservice Astarte]], the 4th boss [[NefariousPharoah that's based on a real life deity]], ain't half bad either. She is garbed in what can basically be described as a [[Stripperific golden bikini]], [[SexyWalk constantly struts her stuff]] and [[HartmanHips shakes her hips]] during battle, has lovely tanned skin, and a surprisingly deep yet sexy voice. [[DistractedByTheSexy Even Jonathan thinks she's beautiful]], and that's when he ''isn't'' [[CharmPerson charmed by her.]] What's '''not''' to love?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** [[spoiler:Brauner believes Stella and Loretta are his daughters reincarnated, but this is never explored and we don't get any confirmation for one way or the other.]]

to:

** [[spoiler:Brauner believes Stella and Loretta are his daughters reincarnated, but this is never explored and we don't get any confirmation for one way or the other.other, though considering his actions and motivations it's hinted that he's just delusional.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BestBossEver: The final boss fight, a team fight against [[spoiler:Dracula]] ''and'' [[spoiler:Death]] at the same time. For many games, you're told that [[spoiler:Death]] is [[spoiler:Dracula's]] right-hand man; here, you see it for yourself why.
* EvilIsSexy: Stella whose dress sports AbsoluteCleavage that bares her head-sized breasts. [[spoiler:And she turns out to be a subversion, as she still wears that even when she's good]].

to:

* BestBossEver: The final boss fight, a team fight against [[spoiler:Dracula]] ''and'' [[spoiler:Death]] at the same time. For many games, you're told that [[spoiler:Death]] is [[spoiler:Dracula's]] right-hand man; here, you see it for yourself why.
* EvilIsSexy: Stella whose dress sports AbsoluteCleavage that bares her head-sized breasts. [[spoiler:And she turns out to be a subversion, as she still wears that even when she's good]].good.]]



** Miser Ring (increase power relative to your gold stash) + Gold Ring (increases the amount of money you can earn from candles relative to gold stash) + [[ThrowingYourSwordAlwaysWorks Heaven's Sword (a weak, but long range sword Jonathan can swing real fast and can easily hit an enemy multiple times in one throw)]] or Holy Claymore (ridiculously powerful sword with slash and holy attribute) = [[CurbStompBattle Total Annhilation.]] The Heaven's Sword itself is an amazing InfinityMinusOneSword if you know how to [[SomeDexterityRequired short-hop-backdash-triple-sword-cancel]], which against larger enemies will carve out huge chunks in their HP because it deals so many damage tics.

to:

** Miser Ring (increase power relative to your gold stash) + Gold Ring (increases the amount of money you can earn from candles relative to gold stash) + [[ThrowingYourSwordAlwaysWorks Heaven's Sword (a weak, but long range long-range sword Jonathan can swing real fast and can easily hit an enemy multiple times in one throw)]] or Holy Claymore (ridiculously powerful sword with slash and holy attribute) = [[CurbStompBattle Total Annhilation.]] The Heaven's Sword itself is an amazing InfinityMinusOneSword if you know how to [[SomeDexterityRequired short-hop-backdash-triple-sword-cancel]], which against larger enemies will carve out huge chunks in their HP because it deals so many damage tics.



** Charlotte's Dark Rift spell sucks in projectiles, spawns right above her and lasts for quite a while. This can trivialize bosses and monsters that focus on projectiles and/or staying out of reach by flying above you.

to:

** Charlotte's Dark Rift spell sucks in projectiles, spawns right above her her, and lasts for quite a while. This can trivialize bosses and monsters that focus on projectiles and/or staying out of reach by flying above you.



** Both Game Over screens. The regular screen is a bloody skull with its mouth open wide as if it were screaming, a sword going through its mouth and a snake in its eye sockets. In Sisters mode, there's a nun crying TearsOfBlood, looking directly [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou at the player]]. Yeeesh.

to:

** Both Game Over GameOver screens. The regular screen is a bloody skull with its mouth open wide as if it were screaming, a sword going through its mouth and a snake in its eye sockets. In Sisters mode, there's a nun crying TearsOfBlood, looking directly [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou at the player]]. Yeeesh.



* TheScrappy: Vincent's [[NoHeroDiscount refusal to lower his prices]] even after being cured of vampirism has gained him some scrappy status. He's still far more likable than the inheritor of his name in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow', though.

to:

* TheScrappy: Vincent's [[NoHeroDiscount refusal to lower his prices]] even after being cured of vampirism has gained him some scrappy status. He's still far more likable than the inheritor of his name in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow', ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow'', though.



** The skill mastery system in general. For starters, Charlotte cannot help you master anything, even though you'll be using her for about half the game. And Jonathan's just take ''forever'' to master. Almost every skill has a SP requirement in the thousands, and you get one or two from almost all monsters. You get SP as long as the monster has been A) damaged by the skill, and B) the monster dies by your hand, which is simple enough. The other big problem is the damage of the skills, since their power comes from the INT stat which Jonathan just doesn't get naturally. It is perfectly possible to finish the game without mastering a single skill ([[AllThereInTheManual or even realize there is such a system in the first place]]), using Charlotte sensibly and the few skills that are mechanically broken.

to:

** The skill mastery system in general. For starters, Charlotte cannot help you master anything, even though you'll be using her for about half the game. And Jonathan's just take ''forever'' to master. Almost every skill has a SP requirement in the thousands, and you get one or two from almost all monsters. You get SP as long as the monster has been A) damaged by the skill, and B) the monster dies by your hand, which is simple enough. The other big problem is the damage of the skills, since their power comes from the INT stat stat, which Jonathan just doesn't get naturally. It is perfectly possible to finish the game without mastering a single skill ([[AllThereInTheManual or even realize there is such a system in the first place]]), using Charlotte sensibly and the few skills that are mechanically broken.



*** However, it becomes incredibly easy if one takes advantage of the [[spoiler: door: just move Johnathan to right in front of the door, then turn around, activate [[NoSell Stonewall]] and have Charlotte start the spell. Charlotte will be under the overhang so no {{Death From Above}} spells can hit her, while Johnathan blocks all frontal attacks.]] Doing this makes the fight last about as long as it takes Sanctuary to complete.

to:

*** However, it becomes incredibly easy if one takes advantage of the [[spoiler: door: [[spoiler:door: just move Johnathan to right in front of the door, then turn around, activate [[NoSell Stonewall]] and have Charlotte start the spell. Charlotte will be under the overhang so no {{Death From Above}} spells can hit her, while Johnathan blocks all frontal attacks.]] Doing this makes the fight last about as long as it takes Sanctuary to complete.



** The UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo setting isn't used to its full potential. There are no Nazis dabbling in [[{{Ghostapo}} the supernatural]] or with [[StupidJetpackHitler super-science]], or [[{{Magitek}} both]]. Given Dracula's AsLongAsThereIsEvil shtick it could have been an interesting team-up.
* UnwinnableByInsanity: It's possible to render the Nest of Evil completely unescapable by not triggering the teleporter next to the entrance and then going all the way from the first floor to the bottom floor in one go and using the save point at the bottom.

to:

** The UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo setting isn't used to its full potential. There are no Nazis dabbling in [[{{Ghostapo}} the supernatural]] or with [[StupidJetpackHitler super-science]], or [[{{Magitek}} both]]. Given Dracula's AsLongAsThereIsEvil shtick shtick, it could have been an interesting team-up.
team-up. (Though this might be justified by the game taking place in 1944, one year before the war's end -- the Third Reich was on its last legs.)
* UnwinnableByInsanity: It's possible to render the Nest of Evil completely unescapable inescapable by not triggering the teleporter next to the entrance and then going all the way from the first floor to the bottom floor in one go and using the save point at the bottom.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

*** However, it becomes incredibly easy if one takes advantage of the [[spoiler: door: just move Johnathan to right in front of the door, then turn around, activate [[NoSell Stonewall]] and have Charlotte start the spell. Charlotte will be under the overhang so no {{Death From Above}} spells can hit her, while Johnathan blocks all frontal attacks.]] Doing this makes the fight last about as long as it takes Sanctuary to complete.

Added: 1250

Changed: 2349

Removed: 680

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
deleting some natter and organizing stuff


* FridgeHorror / TearJerker: The Circus of Fear. [[spoiler:It's mentioned that Brauner lost his daughters because of the first World War. The painting (and by extension, the stage) shows the aftermath of a circus and town torn apart by war. Put two and two together. Worse, as you go further into the level, the stage gets turned on its side, and then upside down, representing how Brauner's life was literally turned upside down. And then there's the boss...]]
* GameBreaker: Sisters mode is incredibly easy for two reasons: the sisters float and hover in the air (at the cost of MP), and their method of attack is entirely done by the touchscreen. Stella does physical attacks by rubbing the stylus over, while Loretta launches a barrage of ice magic where the stylus is placed. With Loretta, even ice-resistant enemies fall in seconds (save for mage-type enemies). Attacking also consumes MP, but on the ground they recover it quickly. They're also immune to all status ailments. Of course, you have to beat the game just to unlock the mode to play as the sisters first, so there's not much of the game left to break.

to:

* FridgeHorror / TearJerker: FridgeHorror: The Circus of Fear. [[spoiler:It's mentioned that Brauner lost his daughters because of the first World War. The painting (and by extension, the stage) shows the aftermath of a circus and town torn apart by war. Put two and two together. Worse, as you go further into the level, the stage gets turned on its side, and then upside down, representing how Brauner's life was literally turned upside down. And then there's the boss...]]
* GameBreaker: GameBreaker:
**
Sisters mode is incredibly easy for two reasons: the sisters float and hover in the air (at the cost of MP), and their method of attack is entirely done by the touchscreen. Stella does physical attacks by rubbing the stylus over, while Loretta launches a barrage of ice magic where the stylus is placed. With Loretta, even ice-resistant enemies fall in seconds (save for mage-type enemies). Attacking also consumes MP, but on the ground they recover it quickly. They're also immune to all status ailments. Of course, you have to beat the game just to unlock the mode to play as the sisters first, so there's not much of the game left to break.



* MemeticMutation: JONATHAN! CHARLOTTE! JONATHAN! CHARLOTTE!

to:

* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
**
JONATHAN! CHARLOTTE! JONATHAN! CHARLOTTE!



* NightmareFuel: The Legion -- subverted thanks to the overly bright atmosphere of the boss music...
** In one of the miniquests, you have to get a tear located near a certain statue. When you take it... *Shudder*
** Both Game Over screens:
** The regular screen is a bloody skull with its mouth open wide as if it were screaming, a sword going through its mouth and a snake in its eye sockets. ''Damn''.
** In Sisters mode, a nun crying TearsOfBlood, looking directly [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou at the player]]. Yeeesh.

to:

* NightmareFuel: The Legion -- subverted thanks to the overly bright atmosphere of the boss music...
NightmareFuel:
** Legion, as usual.
** In one of the miniquests, you have to get a tear located near a certain statue. When you take it... *Shudder*
it, the statue in the background is covered in blood.
** Both Game Over screens:
**
screens. The regular screen is a bloody skull with its mouth open wide as if it were screaming, a sword going through its mouth and a snake in its eye sockets. ''Damn''.
**
In Sisters mode, there's a nun crying TearsOfBlood, looking directly [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou at the player]]. Yeeesh.



* TheScrappy: Vincent's [[NoHeroDiscount refusal to lower his prices]] (even after being cured of vampirism) has gained him some scrappy status. He's still far more likable than the inheritor of his name in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow', though.

to:

* TheScrappy: Vincent's [[NoHeroDiscount refusal to lower his prices]] (even even after being cured of vampirism) vampirism has gained him some scrappy status. He's still far more likable than the inheritor of his name in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow', though.



** The skill mastery system in general. For starters, Charlotte cannot help you master anything, even though you'll be using her for about half the game. And Jonathan's just take ''forever'' to master. Almost every skill has a SP requirement in the thousands, and you get one or two from almost all monsters. You get SP as long as the monster has been A) damaged by the skill, and B) the monster dies by your hand, which is simple enough. The other big problem is the damage of the skills, since their power comes from the INT stat which Jonathan just doesn't get naturally. It is perfectly possible to finish the game without mastering a single skill ([[AllThereInTheManual or even realize there is such a system in the first place]]), using Charlotte sensibly and the few skills that are mechanically broken (Cross, Bible...).
*** One of Wind's quests requires mastering the Cross, Bible, and Holy Water. According to LetsPlay/PinkKittyRose, the most efficient way she found to master all these was nearly ''two hours'' of non-stop minotaur farming.

to:

** The skill mastery system in general. For starters, Charlotte cannot help you master anything, even though you'll be using her for about half the game. And Jonathan's just take ''forever'' to master. Almost every skill has a SP requirement in the thousands, and you get one or two from almost all monsters. You get SP as long as the monster has been A) damaged by the skill, and B) the monster dies by your hand, which is simple enough. The other big problem is the damage of the skills, since their power comes from the INT stat which Jonathan just doesn't get naturally. It is perfectly possible to finish the game without mastering a single skill ([[AllThereInTheManual or even realize there is such a system in the first place]]), using Charlotte sensibly and the few skills that are mechanically broken (Cross, Bible...).
*** One of Wind's quests requires mastering the Cross, Bible, and Holy Water. According to LetsPlay/PinkKittyRose, the most efficient way she found to master all these was nearly ''two hours'' of non-stop minotaur farming.
broken.



* ThatOneBoss: FrankensteinsMonster isn't actually too hard, with [[MightyGlacier hard-hitting but easily telegraphed attacks.]] It's when you meet [[WolfpackBoss two of him]] in the Nest of Evil that fit hits the shan. You can't reliably predict what one of them will do because the other is off screen or surrounding you, about to sucker punch you. Abusing the NotCompletelyUseless Clear Skies spell is almost mandatory here. The worst part? This is the FIRST room of this floor. The boss at the end of the floor? [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaChroniclesOfSorrow Abaddon.]]

to:

* ThatOneBoss: ThatOneBoss:
**
FrankensteinsMonster isn't actually too hard, with [[MightyGlacier hard-hitting but easily telegraphed attacks.]] It's when you meet [[WolfpackBoss two of him]] in the Nest of Evil that fit hits the shan. You can't reliably predict what one of them will do because the other is off screen or surrounding you, about to sucker punch you. Abusing the NotCompletelyUseless Clear Skies spell is almost mandatory here. The worst part? This is the FIRST room of this floor. The boss at the end of the floor? [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaChroniclesOfSorrow Abaddon.]]



** The [[spoiler:purification of Stella and Loretta, where casting Sanctuary takes 15 seconds and Charlotte cannot get hit during it or it fails, nor can she go offscreen, and if either character gets hit, that's like a 3KO, and it's even worse on Hard mode. Trying to do this at low levels can make it pretty much a LuckBasedMission. [[NoSell Stonewall]] is your friend here.]]
*** Worse? [[spoiler:Sanctuary has a range of one screen-width with Charlotte as the center. Since you'll be playing as Jonathan keeping the sisters to one side so Charlotte doesn't get hit, it's possible for the spell to ''miss''.]]
*** One saving grace is that [[spoiler:you only need to hit one of the sisters with it for it to work.]]

to:

** The [[spoiler:purification of Stella and Loretta, where casting Sanctuary takes 15 seconds and Charlotte cannot get hit during it or it fails, nor can she go offscreen, and if either character gets hit, that's like a 3KO, and it's even worse on Hard mode. Trying to do this at low levels can make it pretty much a LuckBasedMission. [[NoSell Stonewall]] is your friend here.]]
***
]] Worse? [[spoiler:Sanctuary has a range of one screen-width with Charlotte as the center. Since you'll be playing as Jonathan keeping the sisters to one side so Charlotte doesn't get hit, it's possible for the spell to ''miss''.]]
*** One saving grace is that [[spoiler:you only need to hit one of the sisters with it for it to work.
]]



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler:Brauner believes Stella and Loretta are his daughters reincarnated, but this is never explored and we don't get any confirmation for one way or the other.]]
** [[spoiler:Of course, it might've just been put in to show how insane he is.]]

to:

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
**
[[spoiler:Brauner believes Stella and Loretta are his daughters reincarnated, but this is never explored and we don't get any confirmation for one way or the other.]]
** [[spoiler:Of course, it might've just been put in to show how insane he is.
]]



* UnwinnableByInsanity: It's possible to render the Nest of Evil completely unescapable by not triggering the teleporter next to the entrance and then going all the way from the first floor to the bottom floor in one go and using the save point at the bottom.

to:

* UnwinnableByInsanity: It's possible to render the Nest of Evil completely unescapable by not triggering the teleporter next to the entrance and then going all the way from the first floor to the bottom floor in one go and using the save point at the bottom.bottom.
----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Charlotte's Dark Rift spell sucks in projectiles, spawns right above her and lasts for quite a while. This can trivialize bosses and monsters that focus on projectiles and/or staying out of reach by flying above you.


Added DiffLines:

** If you can get more than three different kinds of damage onto an enemy at the same time, all of the attacks will damage the enemy for ''every frame''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FridgeBrilliance: The moral of the game is that you're stronger as part of a team than as individuals. You would assume that would mean that you use one of the dual attacks in the final battle, but you'll quickly get wiped out if you do this, because Dracula has learned the moral of the game as well. So if unity is strength, how do you defeat an enemy? By dividing and conquering; since Death can fly and Dracula cannot, all you need to do is run up to one of the higher platforms in the room, Death will get there much faster than Dracula, allowing you to take him out with the Cross sub-weapon. Dracula is then a piece of cake, since they were far stronger together than apart.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Not YMMV.


* HellIsThatNoise: You will likely come to dread "SISTER!" "Ready, sister, I shall KILL YOU!", since it heralds Stella and Loretta's CombinationAttack.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo setting isn't used to its full potential. There are no Nazis dabbling in [[{{Ghostapo}} the supernatural]] or with [[StupidJetpackHitler super-science]], or [[{{Magitek}} both]]. Given Dracula's AsLongAsThereIsEvil shtick it could have been an interesting team-up.

to:

** The UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo setting isn't used to its full potential. There are no Nazis dabbling in [[{{Ghostapo}} the supernatural]] or with [[StupidJetpackHitler super-science]], or [[{{Magitek}} both]]. Given Dracula's AsLongAsThereIsEvil shtick it could have been an interesting team-up.team-up.
* UnwinnableByInsanity: It's possible to render the Nest of Evil completely unescapable by not triggering the teleporter next to the entrance and then going all the way from the first floor to the bottom floor in one go and using the save point at the bottom.

Added: 461

Removed: 461

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FridgeHorror / TearJerker: The Circus of Fear. [[spoiler:It's mentioned that Brauner lost his daughters because of the first World War. The painting (and by extension, the stage) shows the aftermath of a circus and town torn apart by war. Put two and two together. Worse, as you go further into the level, the stage gets turned on its side, and then upside down, representing how Brauner's life was literally turned upside down. And then there's the boss...]]



* FridgeHorror / TearJerker: The Circus of Fear. [[spoiler:It's mentioned that Brauner lost his daughters because of the first World War. The painting (and by extension, the stage) shows the aftermath of a circus and town torn apart by war. Put two and two together. Worse, as you go further into the level, the stage gets turned on its side, and then upside down, representing how Brauner's life was literally turned upside down. And then there's the boss...]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* NightmareFuel: The Legion -- subverted thank to the overly bright atmosphere of the boss music...

to:

* NightmareFuel: The Legion -- subverted thank thanks to the overly bright atmosphere of the boss music...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Death can also have shades of this, being Death and all.

to:

** Death can also have shades of this, being Death and all. He has several attacks that are hard to dodge even if you know what you're doing and can kill even prepared players with ease.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BestBossEver: The final boss fight, a team fight against Dracula ''and'' Death at the same time. For many games, you're told that Death is Dracula's right-hand man; here, you see it for yourself.

to:

* BestBossEver: The final boss fight, a team fight against Dracula [[spoiler:Dracula]] ''and'' Death [[spoiler:Death]] at the same time. For many games, you're told that Death [[spoiler:Death]] is Dracula's [[spoiler:Dracula's]] right-hand man; here, you see it for yourself.yourself why.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

*** One of Wind's quests requires mastering the Cross, Bible, and Holy Water. According to LetsPlay/PinkKittyRose, the most efficient way she found to master all these was nearly ''two hours'' of non-stop minotaur farming.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The skill mastery system in general. For starters, Charlotte cannot master skills, even though she will be using them the entire game. And Jonathan's just take ''forever'' to master. Almost every skill has a SP requirement in the thousands, and you get one or two from almost all monsters. And you only get the SP reward if you make the kill with the weapon in question. Which is almost always difficult, since their power comes from the INT stat which Jonathan just doesn't get naturally. It is perfectly possible to finish the game without mastering a single skill ([[AllThereInTheManual or even realise there is such a system in the first place]]), using Charlotte sensibly and the few skills that are mechanically broken (Cross, Bible...).

to:

** The skill mastery system in general. For starters, Charlotte cannot help you master skills, anything, even though she will you'll be using them her for about half the entire game. And Jonathan's just take ''forever'' to master. Almost every skill has a SP requirement in the thousands, and you get one or two from almost all monsters. And you only You get SP as long as the SP reward if you make monster has been A) damaged by the kill with skill, and B) the weapon in question. Which monster dies by your hand, which is almost always difficult, simple enough. The other big problem is the damage of the skills, since their power comes from the INT stat which Jonathan just doesn't get naturally. It is perfectly possible to finish the game without mastering a single skill ([[AllThereInTheManual or even realise realize there is such a system in the first place]]), using Charlotte sensibly and the few skills that are mechanically broken (Cross, Bible...).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Miser Ring (increase power realitve to your gold stash) + Gold Ring (increases the amount of money you can earn from candles relative to gold stash) + [[ThrowingYourSwordAlwaysWorks Heaven's Sword (a weak, but long range sword Jonathan can swing real fast and can easily hit an enemy multiple times in one throw)]] or Holy Claymore (ridiculously powerful sword with slash and holy attribute) = [[CurbStompBattle Total Annhilation.]]

to:

** Miser Ring (increase power realitve relative to your gold stash) + Gold Ring (increases the amount of money you can earn from candles relative to gold stash) + [[ThrowingYourSwordAlwaysWorks Heaven's Sword (a weak, but long range sword Jonathan can swing real fast and can easily hit an enemy multiple times in one throw)]] or Holy Claymore (ridiculously powerful sword with slash and holy attribute) = [[CurbStompBattle Total Annhilation.]]]] The Heaven's Sword itself is an amazing InfinityMinusOneSword if you know how to [[SomeDexterityRequired short-hop-backdash-triple-sword-cancel]], which against larger enemies will carve out huge chunks in their HP because it deals so many damage tics.

Top