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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Hydra Cap himself, at least in some circles. When he first revealed himself, [[UnderStatement backlash was massive.]] Death threats were thrown at Marvel over it, memes bashing it went viral, ThisVeryWiki had editors make (or at least try to) edits throwing snark at it, branding the entire thing a massive DorkAge. However, he's won over some fans not only for being a [[MagnificentBastard cunning,]] [[EvilIsCool badass villain]] but also still keeping some of the morals that made him Steve Rogers. Of course, TheReveal that Steve ''wasn't'' EvilAllAlong helped somewhat.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Hydra Cap himself, at least in some circles. When he first revealed himself, [[UnderStatement backlash was massive.]] Death threats were thrown at Marvel over it, memes bashing it went viral, ThisVeryWiki Wiki/ThisVeryWiki had editors make (or at least try to) edits throwing snark at it, branding the entire thing a massive DorkAge. However, he's won over some fans not only for being a [[MagnificentBastard cunning,]] [[EvilIsCool badass villain]] but also still keeping some of the morals that made him Steve Rogers. Of course, TheReveal that Steve ''wasn't'' EvilAllAlong helped somewhat.
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** The Red Skull, of all people, hanging a LampshadeHanging on just how cliche and overdone the classic Hydra stories are, even describing Sin's plans as revolving around things they've all seen before.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Several in issue #2:
** BlackComedy, but, Red Skull executing his entire kitchen staff and then justifying it as fair for the blandness of the soup, complete with noting he'd warned them celery was a poor base for this kind of soup. Which means the freaking ''Red Skull'' is an amateur food critic.
-->'''Red Skull:''' "Bah. You try this soup and tell me it's not bland. I warned them, celery is a poor base!"
** The Red Skull reading Hydra-glorifying bedtime stories to Kubik. Nuff said.
** BlackComedy, but, Red Skull executing his entire kitchen staff and then justifying it as fair for the blandness of the soup, complete with noting he'd warned them celery was a poor base for this kind of soup. Which means the freaking ''Red Skull'' is an amateur food critic.
-->'''Red Skull:''' "Bah. You try this soup and tell me it's not bland. I warned them, celery is a poor base!"
** The Red Skull reading Hydra-glorifying bedtime stories to Kubik. Nuff said.
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** Another one is pointing to the image in EvenEvilHasStandards from [[spoiler: the ''Franchise/{{Batman}}[=/=]Captain America'' {{Elseworlds}} crossover, where ComicBook/TheJoker terminates an alliance with the ComicBook/RedSkull upon realizing that the Skull wasn't faking being a Nazi as part of a gimmick and saying that Steve now has less morals than the man who crippled Barbara Gordon, and killed Jason Todd and Sarah Essen Gordon.]]
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** Another one is pointing to the image in EvenEvilHasStandards from [[spoiler: the ''Franchise/{{Batman}}[=/=]Captain America'' ''ComicBook/BatmanAndCaptainAmerica'' {{Elseworlds}} crossover, where ComicBook/TheJoker terminates an alliance with the ComicBook/RedSkull upon realizing that the Skull wasn't faking being a Nazi as part of a gimmick and saying that Steve now has less morals than the man who crippled Barbara Gordon, and killed Jason Todd and Sarah Essen Gordon.]]
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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Initial reaction to Steve's new outfit was this, as it lacked any, well, white. So the flag theme was basically killed. However, it was later revised to have white.
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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Initial reaction to Steve's new outfit was this, as it lacked any, well, white. So white, so the flag theme was basically killed. However, it was later revised to have white.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: Being a Hero whose been affected by a process to turn him into a villain makes this run quite similar to the ''Superior'' line of stories after [[Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan Superior Spiderman]] and later [[Comicbook/IronMan the Superior Ironman]], which was a lot less successful than the first and pretty much ended the titular line.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: Being a Hero whose been affected by a process to turn him into a villain makes this run quite similar to the ''Superior'' line of stories after [[Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan Superior Spiderman]] ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan and later [[Comicbook/IronMan the [[ComicBook/IronMan Superior Ironman]], Iron Man]], which was a lot less successful than the first and pretty much ended the titular line.
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** Another one is pointing to the image in EvenEvilHasStandards from [[spoiler: the ''Franchise/{{Batman}}[=/=]Captain America'' {{Elseworlds}} crossover, where ComicBook/TheJoker terminates an alliance with the ComicBook/RedSkull upon realizing that the Skull wasn't faking being a Nazi was part of a gimmick and saying that Steve now has less morals than the man who crippled Barbara Gordon, and killed Jason Todd and Sarah Essen Gordon.]]
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther declaring he actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], ComicBook/RedSkull declaring [[{{Eagleland}} "God bless America!"]], ComicBook/{{Magneto}} [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness declaring]] [[YouAreWhatYouHate he hates mutants]], [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]] [[ProtagonistTitleFallacy declaring he is Zelda]], [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick declaring "This is Krusty Krab"]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} Franchise/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther declaring he actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], ComicBook/RedSkull declaring [[{{Eagleland}} "God bless America!"]], ComicBook/{{Magneto}} [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness declaring]] [[YouAreWhatYouHate he hates mutants]], [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]] [[ProtagonistTitleFallacy declaring he is Zelda]], [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick declaring "This is Krusty Krab"]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther declaring he actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], ComicBook/RedSkull declaring [[{{Eagleland}} "God bless America!"]], ComicBook/{{Magneto}} [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness declaring]] [[YouAreWhatYouHate he hates mutants]], [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link declaring he is Zelda]], [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick declaring "This is Krusty Krab"]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther declaring he actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], ComicBook/RedSkull declaring [[{{Eagleland}} "God bless America!"]], ComicBook/{{Magneto}} [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness declaring]] [[YouAreWhatYouHate he hates mutants]], [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link Link]] [[ProtagonistTitleFallacy declaring he is Zelda]], [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick declaring "This is Krusty Krab"]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], ComicBook/RedSkull declaring [[{{Eagleland}} "God bless America!"]], ComicBook/{{Magneto}} declaring he hates mutants, [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther declaring he actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], ComicBook/RedSkull declaring [[{{Eagleland}} "God bless America!"]], ComicBook/{{Magneto}} declaring [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness declaring]] [[YouAreWhatYouHate he hates mutants, mutants]], [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link declaring he is Zelda]], [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick declaring "This is Krusty Krab"]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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* SignatureScene: As you can probably guess, [[spoiler: Cap saying "Hail Hydra" after throwing someone out of an airplane ([[BrokenBase for lack of a more neutral listing]]), outing himself to the audience as an agent of HYDRA]].
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Hydra Cap himself in what may be one of the quickest examples of this trope ever. When he first revealed himself, [[UnderStatement backlash was massive.]] Death threats were thrown at Marvel over it, memes bashing it went viral, ThisVeryWiki had editors make (or at least try to) edits throwing snark at it, branding the entire thing a massive DorkAge. However, he's won over fans not only for being a [[MagnificentBastard cunning,]] [[EvilIsCool badass villain]] but also still keeping a lot of the morals that made him Steve Rogers. Of course, TheReveal that Steve ''wasn't'' EvilAllAlong helped.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Hydra Cap himself himself, at least in what may be one of the quickest examples of this trope ever.some circles. When he first revealed himself, [[UnderStatement backlash was massive.]] Death threats were thrown at Marvel over it, memes bashing it went viral, ThisVeryWiki had editors make (or at least try to) edits throwing snark at it, branding the entire thing a massive DorkAge. However, he's won over some fans not only for being a [[MagnificentBastard cunning,]] [[EvilIsCool badass villain]] but also still keeping a lot some of the morals that made him Steve Rogers. Of course, TheReveal that Steve ''wasn't'' EvilAllAlong helped.helped somewhat.
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** LateArrivalSpoiler: And how! It doesn't get any more ItWasHisSled than this: the infamous Hail Hydra page ended up being used as the cover for a trade paperback called ''Road to ComicBook/SecretEmpire''.
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* MagnificentBastard: Love 'em or hate 'em, you have to give props to [[spoiler:Steve Rogers for being the one who killed [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Bruce Banner]] through a simple letter that set off Ulysses' precog powers.]] Besides that, their ability to maintain their cover is so far near-flawless; [[spoiler:unlike the similar ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'', Steve is actually ''good'' at hiding his villainy, with his personality being unchanged outside of his circle, rather than becoming a SmugSnake JerkAss, so to the public and other superheroes he appears to be [[VillainWithGoodPublicity the same-old Steve even when he's stabbing them in the back]].]]
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* MagnificentBastard: Love 'em or hate 'em, you have to give props to [[spoiler:Steve Rogers for being the one who killed [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Bruce Banner]] through a simple letter that set off Ulysses' precog powers.]] Besides that, their ability to maintain their cover is so far near-flawless; [[spoiler:unlike the similar ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'', Steve is actually ''good'' at hiding his villainy, with his personality being unchanged outside of his circle, rather than becoming a SmugSnake JerkAss, {{Jerkass}}, so to the public and other superheroes he appears to be [[VillainWithGoodPublicity the same-old Steve even when he's stabbing them in the back]].]]
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], ComicBook/RedSkull declaring "God bless America!", ComicBook/{{Magneto}} declaring he hates mutants, [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], ComicBook/RedSkull declaring [[{{Eagleland}} "God bless America!", America!"]], ComicBook/{{Magneto}} declaring he hates mutants, [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], ComicBook/RedSkull declaring "God bless America!", [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], ComicBook/RedSkull declaring "God bless America!", ComicBook/{{Magneto}} declaring he hates mutants, [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], ComicBook/RedSkull declaring "God bless America!", [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]],[[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]],[[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi wrong]], [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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** At least before TheReveal, fans tend to dismiss it with [[Film/TheAvengers2012 "We recognized that Marvel has made a decision. But given that it's a]] ''[[SophisticatedAsHell stupid-ass]]'' [[Film/TheAvengers2012 decision,]] [[FanonDiscontinuity we've elected to ignore it."]]
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** At least before TheReveal, [[spoiler:it's revealed to be CosmicRetcon]], fans tend to dismiss it with [[Film/TheAvengers2012 "We recognized that Marvel has made a decision. But given that it's a]] ''[[SophisticatedAsHell stupid-ass]]'' [[Film/TheAvengers2012 decision,]] [[FanonDiscontinuity we've elected to ignore it."]]
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: To some extent, the ''Civil War II'' tie-ins help to avail the vilification Carol Danvers gets in the crossover, by having [[spoiler:HYDRA!Cap]] be secretly manipulating things to encourage hostility between the two sides and deliberately engineers situations that would result in catastrophes Ulysses can predict, thus causing even more chaos.
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* CharacterRerailment: Baron Helmut Zemo who had, since the end of Fabian Nicieza's ''ComicBook/{{Thunderbolts}}'', undergone serious mishandling, with his HeelFaceTurn being negated and his CharacterDevelopment being swept away, before undergoing severe VillainDecay until he's a caricature of his original self. When introduced in the series he's basically hit rock bottom, but after [[spoiler:HYDRA!Cap reveals the past they share thanks to the CosmicRetcon]], Zemo gets some ''much'' needed development, restoring some of his Thunderbolts-era characterisation, showing him to have genuine fondness for [[spoiler:Steve]] while also being enough of TheChessmaster to set up his own plans while supporting their's.
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* MagnificentBastard: Love 'em or hate 'em, you have to give props to [[spoiler:Steve Rogers for being the one who killed [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Bruce Banner]] through a simple letter that set off Ulysses' precog powers.]]
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* MagnificentBastard: Love 'em or hate 'em, you have to give props to [[spoiler:Steve Rogers for being the one who killed [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Bruce Banner]] through a simple letter that set off Ulysses' precog powers.]] Besides that, their ability to maintain their cover is so far near-flawless; [[spoiler:unlike the similar ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'', Steve is actually ''good'' at hiding his villainy, with his personality being unchanged outside of his circle, rather than becoming a SmugSnake JerkAss, so to the public and other superheroes he appears to be [[VillainWithGoodPublicity the same-old Steve even when he's stabbing them in the back]].]]
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** At least before TheReveal, fans tend to dismiss it with [[Film/TheAvengers2012 "We recognized that Marvel has made a decision. But given that it's a]] ''[[SophisticatedAsHell stupid-ass]]'' [[Film/TheAvengers2012 decision,]] [[FanonDiscontinuity we've elected to ignore it."
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** At least before TheReveal, fans tend to dismiss it with [[Film/TheAvengers2012 "We recognized that Marvel has made a decision. But given that it's a]] ''[[SophisticatedAsHell stupid-ass]]'' [[Film/TheAvengers2012 decision,]] [[FanonDiscontinuity we've elected to ignore it.""]]
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Hydra Cap himself in what may be one of the quickest examples of this trope ever. When he first revealed himself, [[UnderStatement backlash was massive.]] Death threats were thrown at Marvel over it, memes bashing it went viral, ThisVeryWiki had editors make (or at least try to) edits throwing snark at it, branding the entire thing a massive DorkAge. However, he's won over fans not only for being a [[MagnificentBastard cunning,]] [[EvilIsCool badass villain]] but also still keeping a lot of the morals that made him Steve Rogers. Of course, TheReveal that Steve ''wasn't'' EvilAllAlong helped.
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** At least before TheReveal, fans tend to dismiss it with [[Film/TheAvengers2012 "We recognized that Marvel has made a decision. But given that it's a]] ''[[SophisticatedAsHell stupid-ass]]'' [[Film/TheAvengers2012 decision,]] [[FanonDiscontinuity we've elected to ignore it."
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Hydra Cap himself in what may be one of the quickest examples of this trope ever. When he first revealed himself, [[UnderStatement backlash was massive.]] Death threats were thrown at Marvel over it, memes bashing it went viral, ThisVeryWiki had editors make (or at least try to) edits throwing snark at it, branding the entire thing a massive DorkAge. However, he's won over fans not only for being a [[MagnificentBastard cunning,]] [[EvilIsCool badass villain]] but also still keeping a lot of the morals that made him Steve Rogers. Of course, TheReveal that Steve ''wasn't'' EvilAllAlonghelped.helped.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Hydra Cap himself in what may be one of the quickest examples of this trope ever. When he first revealed himself, [[UnderStatement backlash was massive.]] Death threats were thrown at Marvel over it, memes bashing it went viral, ThisVeryWiki had editors make (or at least try to) edits throwing snark at it, branding the entire thing a massive DorkAge. However, he's won over fans not only for being a [[MagnificentBastard cunning,]] [[EvilIsCool badass villain]] but also still keeping a lot of the morals that made him Steve Rogers. Of course, TheReveal that Steve ''wasn't'' EvilAllAlong
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** Captain America [[spoiler: as an agent of HYDRA became this after it was revealed ''why'' he was now with HYDRA. Some are now willing to give it a chance while others are angry it's even happening at all or annoyed that Marvel more or less copped out on the promise Steve was NotBrainwashed.]]
** Captain America [[spoiler: as an agent of HYDRA became this after it was revealed ''why'' he was now with HYDRA. Some are now willing to give it a chance while others are angry it's even happening at all or annoyed that Marvel more or less copped out on the promise Steve was NotBrainwashed.]]
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**BrokenBase: Captain America [[spoiler: as an agent of HYDRA became this after it was revealed ''why'' he was now with HYDRA. Some are now willing to give it a chance while others are angry it's even happening at all or annoyed that Marvel more or less copped out on the promise Steve was NotBrainwashed.]]
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** Another one is pointing to the image in EvenEvilHasStandards from [[spoiler: the ''Franchise/{{Batman}}[=/=]Captain America'' {{Elseworlds}} crossover, where ComicBook/TheJoker terminates an alliance with the ComicBook/RedSkull upon realizing that the Skull wasn't faking being a Nazi was part of a gimmick and saying that Steve now has less morals than the man who crippled Barbara Gordon, and killed Jason Todd and Sarah Essen Gordon.]]
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** Another one is pointing to the image in EvenEvilHasStandards from [[spoiler: the ''Franchise/{{Batman}}[=/=]Captain America'' {{Elseworlds}} crossover, where ComicBook/TheJoker terminates an alliance with the ComicBook/RedSkull upon realizing that the Skull wasn't faking being a Nazi was part of a gimmick and saying that Steve now has less morals than the man who crippled Barbara Gordon, and killed Jason Todd and Sarah Essen Gordon.]]]]
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Hydra Cap himself in what may be one of the quickest examples of this trope ever. When he first revealed himself, [[UnderStatement backlash was massive.]] Death threats were thrown at Marvel over it, memes bashing it went viral, ThisVeryWiki had editors make (or at least try to) edits throwing snark at it, branding the entire thing a massive DorkAge. However, he's won over fans not only for being a [[MagnificentBastard cunning,]] [[EvilIsCool badass villain]] but also still keeping a lot of the morals that made him Steve Rogers. Of course, TheReveal that Steve ''wasn't'' EvilAllAlong helped.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Hydra Cap himself in what may be one of the quickest examples of this trope ever. When he first revealed himself, [[UnderStatement backlash was massive.]] Death threats were thrown at Marvel over it, memes bashing it went viral, ThisVeryWiki had editors make (or at least try to) edits throwing snark at it, branding the entire thing a massive DorkAge. However, he's won over fans not only for being a [[MagnificentBastard cunning,]] [[EvilIsCool badass villain]] but also still keeping a lot of the morals that made him Steve Rogers. Of course, TheReveal that Steve ''wasn't'' EvilAllAlong helped.
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** LateArrivalSpoiler: And how! It doesn't get any more ItWasHisSled than this: the infamous Hail Hydra page ended up being used as the cover for a trade paperback called ''Road to ComicBook/SecretEmpire'''.
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** LateArrivalSpoiler: And how! It doesn't get any more ItWasHisSled than this: the infamous Hail Hydra page ended up being used as the cover for a trade paperback called ''Road to ComicBook/SecretEmpire'''.ComicBook/SecretEmpire''.
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** LateArrivalSpoiler: And how! It doesn't get any more ItWasHisSled than this: the infamous Hail Hydra page ended up being used as the cover for a trade paperback called ''Road to ComicBook/SecretEmpire'''.
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** Captain America [[spoiler: as an agent of HYDRA became this after it was revealed ''why'' he was now with HYDRA. Some are now willing to give it a chance while others are angry it's even happening at all or annoyed that Marvel more or less copped out on the promise Steve was NotBrainwashed.]]
* IKnewIt: The below mentioned reveal of a cosmic retcon was predicted by a lot of people. Some, who were okay with it regardless, still don't mind while others who disliked the decision find it reprehensible no matter what explanation.
* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler:Captain America being a HYDRA agent all along]] became this in record time. The reveal following this that [[spoiler:this is the result of CosmicRetcon and ''not'' actually real]] has to a lesser extent followed this.
* InternetBackdraft: '''Oh boy.''' Issue #1 of ''Captain America: Steve Rogers'' pissed just about every Marvel fan off with TheReveal of [[spoiler:Captain America's allegiance to HYDRA]], with some going as far as claiming that it's insulting to the memory of Joel Simon and Jack Kirby and that it completely ruins the character. Shortly after the issue was released, [=#SteveRogers=], [=#SaveCaptainAmerica=] and [=#SayNoTo=][[spoiler:[=HYDRACap=]]] started trending on major social media outlets. The reveal in the very next issue that clarifies [[spoiler:this is the result of a CosmicRetcon thanks to Red Skull manipulating Kobik, resulting in the fans relenting somewhat, but still being mad that Spencer lied so to get the book controversy and attention.]]
* MagnificentBastard: Love 'em or hate 'em, you have to give props to [[spoiler:Steve Rogers for being the one who killed [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Bruce Banner]] through a simple letter that set off Ulysses' precog powers.]]
* MemeticMutation: [[spoiler:Captain America's EvilAllAlong reveal]] has spawned two:
** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]],[[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
** Another one is pointing to the image in EvenEvilHasStandards from [[spoiler: the ''Franchise/{{Batman}}[=/=]Captain America'' {{Elseworlds}} crossover, where ComicBook/TheJoker terminates an alliance with the ComicBook/RedSkull upon realizing that the Skull wasn't faking being a Nazi was part of a gimmick and saying that Steve now has less morals than the man who crippled Barbara Gordon, and killed Jason Todd and Sarah Essen Gordon.]]
* IKnewIt: The below mentioned reveal of a cosmic retcon was predicted by a lot of people. Some, who were okay with it regardless, still don't mind while others who disliked the decision find it reprehensible no matter what explanation.
* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler:Captain America being a HYDRA agent all along]] became this in record time. The reveal following this that [[spoiler:this is the result of CosmicRetcon and ''not'' actually real]] has to a lesser extent followed this.
* InternetBackdraft: '''Oh boy.''' Issue #1 of ''Captain America: Steve Rogers'' pissed just about every Marvel fan off with TheReveal of [[spoiler:Captain America's allegiance to HYDRA]], with some going as far as claiming that it's insulting to the memory of Joel Simon and Jack Kirby and that it completely ruins the character. Shortly after the issue was released, [=#SteveRogers=], [=#SaveCaptainAmerica=] and [=#SayNoTo=][[spoiler:[=HYDRACap=]]] started trending on major social media outlets. The reveal in the very next issue that clarifies [[spoiler:this is the result of a CosmicRetcon thanks to Red Skull manipulating Kobik, resulting in the fans relenting somewhat, but still being mad that Spencer lied so to get the book controversy and attention.]]
* MagnificentBastard: Love 'em or hate 'em, you have to give props to [[spoiler:Steve Rogers for being the one who killed [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Bruce Banner]] through a simple letter that set off Ulysses' precog powers.]]
* MemeticMutation: [[spoiler:Captain America's EvilAllAlong reveal]] has spawned two:
** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including ComicBook/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, ComicBook/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]],[[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
** Another one is pointing to the image in EvenEvilHasStandards from [[spoiler: the ''Franchise/{{Batman}}[=/=]Captain America'' {{Elseworlds}} crossover, where ComicBook/TheJoker terminates an alliance with the ComicBook/RedSkull upon realizing that the Skull wasn't faking being a Nazi was part of a gimmick and saying that Steve now has less morals than the man who crippled Barbara Gordon, and killed Jason Todd and Sarah Essen Gordon.]]
