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* {{Hypocrite}}: A debatable one regarding Dorien getting angry about a boss of Tracey's sexually harassing her, given the way she treats a lot of men.
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* Hypocrite: A debatable one regarding Dorien getting angry about a boss of Tracey's sexually harassing her, given the way she treats a lot of men.
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*** In a surprising example of EveryoneHasStandards, Sharon and Tracey criticise Dorien for proposing to sack a personal trainer for probably being gay, since he shows no sexual interest in her.
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*** In a surprising example of EveryoneHasStandards, Sharon and Tracey criticise Dorien for proposing to sack a the aforementioned personal trainer for probably being gay, since he shows no sexual interest in her.
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* Also, in one episode Dorien relates how at one point she and Marcus were so poor they nearly moved "upstairs from a saari shop in Whitechapel". Since the 00's, Whitechapel and several other formerly impoverished inner-city areas of London have become much more gentrified and affluent.
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*** Also, in one episode Dorien relates how at one point she and Marcus were so poor they nearly moved "upstairs from a saari shop in Whitechapel". Since the 00's, Whitechapel and several other formerly impoverished inner-city areas of London have become much more gentrified and affluent.
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** Also, in one episode Dorien relates how at one point she and Marcus were so poor they nearly moved "upstairs from a saari shop in Whitechapel". Since the 00's, Whitechapel and several other formerly impoverished inner-city areas of London have become much more gentrified and affluent.
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**** Also, in one episode Dorien relates how at one point she and Marcus were so poor they nearly moved "upstairs from a saari shop in Whitechapel". Since the 00's, Whitechapel and several other formerly impoverished inner-city areas of London have become much more gentrified and
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* ValuesDissonance: The early series had recurring homophobia, even from the libertine Dorien. This included Tracey and Sharon getting angry when doctors or nurses thought they were a lesbian couple, Sharon calling Oscar Wilde a "woofter", Dorien suspecting that a hot personal trainer must be gay for not sleeping with her and Tracey and Dorien (though interestingly not Sharon) having a rant about how a pair of female plumbers must be "dykes".
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** The early series had recurring homophobia, even from the libertine Dorien. This included Tracey and Sharon getting angry when doctors or nurses thought they were a lesbian couple, Sharon calling Oscar Wilde a "woofter", Dorien suspecting that a hot personal trainer must be gay for not sleeping with her and Tracey and Dorien (though interestingly not Sharon) having a rant about how a pair of female plumbers must be "dykes".
** The early series had recurring homophobia, even from the libertine Dorien. This included Tracey and Sharon getting angry when doctors or nurses thought they were a lesbian couple, Sharon calling Oscar Wilde a "woofter", Dorien suspecting that a hot personal trainer must be gay for not sleeping with her and Tracey and Dorien (though interestingly not Sharon) having a rant about how a pair of female plumbers must be "dykes".
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* ValuesDissonance: the early series had recurring homophobia, even from the libertine Dorien. This included Tracey and Sharon getting angry when doctors or nurses thought they were a lesbian couple, Sharon calling Oscar Wilde a "woofter", Dorien suspecting that a hot personal trainer must be gay for not sleeping with her and Tracey and Dorien (though interestingly not Sharon) having a rant about how a pair of female plumbers must be "dykes".
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* ValuesDissonance: the The early series had recurring homophobia, even from the libertine Dorien. This included Tracey and Sharon getting angry when doctors or nurses thought they were a lesbian couple, Sharon calling Oscar Wilde a "woofter", Dorien suspecting that a hot personal trainer must be gay for not sleeping with her and Tracey and Dorien (though interestingly not Sharon) having a rant about how a pair of female plumbers must be "dykes".
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* TheNineties: Even the revival still very much feels like it in terms of the humour, clothes and general vibe.
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* FairForItsTime: Interracial relationships passed by largely unnoticed even in the programme's early years: in one episode Dorien ran off with Tracey's accountant Ranjith, while later episodes had both her and Sharon dating Black men without others commenting.
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** Also, in one episode Dorian relates how at one point she and Marcus were so poor they nearly moved "upstairs from a saari shop in Whitechapel". Since the 00's, Whitechapel and several other formerly impoverished inner-city areas of London have become much more gentrified and affluent.
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** Also, in one episode Dorian relates how at one point she and Marcus were so poor they nearly moved "upstairs from a saari shop in Whitechapel". Since the 00's, Whitechapel and several other formerly impoverished inner-city areas of London have become much more gentrified and affluent.
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* ValuesDissonance: the early series had recurring homophobia, even from the libertine Dorien. This included Tracey and Sharon getting angry when doctors or nurses thought they were a lesbian couple, Sharon calling Oscar Wilde a "woofter", Dorien suspecting that a hot personal trainer must be gay for not sleeping with her and Tracey and Dorien (though interestingly not Sharon) having a rant about how a pair of female plumbers must be "dykes".
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* The '90s: Even the revival still very much feels like it in terms of the humour, clothes and general vibe.
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* [[MarySue Gary Stu]]: As the main page suggests, Ken himself edges into this, particularly later in the story (though it should be noted this does not include tropes already existing in canon). Though he has a few of the hallmark MartyStu traits, he also has a host of flaws that make up for them and make him an interesting character in spite of his tendency to hog the spotlight a bit. See the entries for NiceJobBreakingItHero, WhatTheHellHero, and OmniscientMoralityLicense for a few examples.
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* CommonKnowledge: Thanks to the author naming the Neutron Stampede platform as the ''[[MeaningfulName Marie Curie]]''[[note]]the scientist who discovered Radium & died of radiation poisoning[[/note]], almost everyone now believes that to be the name of the ship, despite being officially unnamed.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Arguably, this fic spawned a trend of fanfics with a ZAFT-centric POV, as well as a greater awareness of SEED-MSV character Shiho Hahnenfuss.
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* [[MarySue Gary Stu]]: As this very page probably suggests, Ken himself arguably edges into this, particularly later in the story (though it should be noted this page does not include tropes already existing in canon).
** "Arguably" indeed. Ken has a few of the hallmark MartyStu traits but he also has a host of flaws that make up for them and make him an interesting character in spite of his tendency to hog the spotlight a bit. See the entries for NiceJobBreakingItHero, WhatTheHellHero, and OmniscientMoralityLicense for a few examples.
** "Arguably" indeed. Ken has a few of the hallmark MartyStu traits but he also has a host of flaws that make up for them and make him an interesting character in spite of his tendency to hog the spotlight a bit. See the entries for NiceJobBreakingItHero, WhatTheHellHero, and OmniscientMoralityLicense for a few examples.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Ken's encounter with the scientist responsible for making him a [[ArtificialHuman Coordinator]], [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Doctor]] [[MadScientist Heinrich]] [[EvilutionaryBiologist Metzinger]]. [[spoiler: Metzinger turned up once, long enough to be [[DiagonalCut sliced in half]], and was scarcely mentioned again. In actual fact, this was part of a poorly-handled attempt by the author at a ''MetalGearSolid'' ShoutOut, most of which was ultimately mostly abandoned. The author has vague plans of turning the botched plot into the basis for a further installment of the Falconverse, but for the moment, this sequence remains orphaned and seemingly inexplicable.]]
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Ken's encounter with the scientist responsible for making him a [[ArtificialHuman Coordinator]], [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Doctor]] [[MadScientist Heinrich]] [[EvilutionaryBiologist Metzinger]]. [[spoiler: Metzinger turned up once, long enough to be [[DiagonalCut sliced in half]], and was scarcely mentioned again. In actual fact, this was part of a poorly-handled attempt by the author at a ''MetalGearSolid'' ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' ShoutOut, most of which was ultimately mostly abandoned. The author has vague plans of turning the botched plot into the basis for a further installment of the Falconverse, but for the moment, this sequence remains orphaned and seemingly inexplicable.]]
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: [[YourMilageMayVary Arguably]] Ken's encounter with the scientist responsible for making him a [[ArtificialHuman Coordinator]], [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Doctor]] [[MadScientist Heinrich]] [[EvilutionaryBiologist Metzinger]]. [[spoiler: Metzinger turned up once, long enough to be [[DiagonalCut sliced in half]], and was scarcely mentioned again. In actual fact, this was part of a poorly-handled attempt by the author at a ''MetalGearSolid'' ShoutOut, most of which was ultimately mostly abandoned. The author has vague plans of turning the botched plot into the basis for a further installment of the Falconverse, but for the moment, this sequence remains orphaned and seemingly inexplicable.]]
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: [[YourMilageMayVary Arguably]] BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Ken's encounter with the scientist responsible for making him a [[ArtificialHuman Coordinator]], [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Doctor]] [[MadScientist Heinrich]] [[EvilutionaryBiologist Metzinger]]. [[spoiler: Metzinger turned up once, long enough to be [[DiagonalCut sliced in half]], and was scarcely mentioned again. In actual fact, this was part of a poorly-handled attempt by the author at a ''MetalGearSolid'' ShoutOut, most of which was ultimately mostly abandoned. The author has vague plans of turning the botched plot into the basis for a further installment of the Falconverse, but for the moment, this sequence remains orphaned and seemingly inexplicable.]]
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* [[MarySue Gary Stu]]: As this very page probably suggests, Ken himself arguably edges into this, particularly later in the story (though it should be noted this page does not include tropes already existing in canon). On the flip side, the author specifically arranged much of the sequel to reverse the trend. Of course, YourMilageMayVary as to the effort's success.
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* [[MarySue Gary Stu]]: As this very page probably suggests, Ken himself arguably edges into this, particularly later in the story (though it should be noted this page does not include tropes already existing in canon). On the flip side, the author specifically arranged much of the sequel to reverse the trend. Of course, YourMilageMayVary as to the effort's success.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: [[YourMilageMayVary Arguably]] Ken's encounter with the scientist responsible for making him a [[ArtificialHuman Coordinator]], [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Doctor]] [[MadScientist Heinrich]] [[EvilutionaryBiologist Metzinger]]. [[spoiler: Metzinger turned up once, long enough to be [[DiagonalCut sliced in half]], and was scarcely mentioned again. In actual fact, this was part of a poorly-handled attempt by the author at a ''MetalGearSolid'' ShoutOut, most of which was ultimately mostly abandoned. The author has vague plans of turning the botched plot into the basis for a further installment of the Falconverse, but for the moment, this sequence remains orphaned and seemingly inexplicable.]]
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Arguably, this fic spawned a trend of fanfics with a ZAFT-centric POV, as well as a greater awareness of SEED-MSV character Shiho Hahnenfuss.
** Also, OC [[ColonelBadAss Karen]] [[BadAssNormal Willet]] seems to have reached this status.
* [[MarySue Gary Stu]]: As this very page probably suggests, Ken himself arguably edges into this, particularly later in the story (though it should be noted this page does not include tropes already existing in canon). On the flip side, the author specifically arranged much of the sequel to reverse the trend. Of course, YourMilageMayVary as to the effort's success.
** "Arguably" indeed. Ken has a few of the hallmark MartyStu traits but he also has a host of flaws that make up for them and make him an interesting character in spite of his tendency to hog the spotlight a bit. See the entries for NiceJobBreakingItHero, WhatTheHellHero, and OmniscientMoralityLicense for a few examples.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Arguably, this fic spawned a trend of fanfics with a ZAFT-centric POV, as well as a greater awareness of SEED-MSV character Shiho Hahnenfuss.
** Also, OC [[ColonelBadAss Karen]] [[BadAssNormal Willet]] seems to have reached this status.
* [[MarySue Gary Stu]]: As this very page probably suggests, Ken himself arguably edges into this, particularly later in the story (though it should be noted this page does not include tropes already existing in canon). On the flip side, the author specifically arranged much of the sequel to reverse the trend. Of course, YourMilageMayVary as to the effort's success.
** "Arguably" indeed. Ken has a few of the hallmark MartyStu traits but he also has a host of flaws that make up for them and make him an interesting character in spite of his tendency to hog the spotlight a bit. See the entries for NiceJobBreakingItHero, WhatTheHellHero, and OmniscientMoralityLicense for a few examples.
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** "Arguably" indeed. Ken has a few of the hallmark MartyStu traits but he also has a host of flaws that make up for them and make him an interesting character in spite of his tendency to hog the spotlight a bit. See the entries for NiceJobBreakingItHero, WhatTheHellHero, and OmniscientMoralityLicense for a few examples.
* {{Narm}}: Ken and Millenia reciting [[FieldOfBlades a certain incantation]] from [[FateStayNight a certain visual novel]] at each other as some sort of pre-battle oath in ''Cry of the Falcon''. It was probably meant to come across as a really awesome BadassCreed, but if you know where it comes from it's just facepalm-inducing.* * RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: YMMV on [[BaseBreaker whether she was a scrappy to begin with]], but Solid makes a point of making Flay out to be a sympathetic character by spelling out her character development to a greater degree than the main series did.
* {{Narm}}: Ken and Millenia reciting [[FieldOfBlades a certain incantation]] from [[FateStayNight a certain visual novel]] at each other as some sort of pre-battle oath in ''Cry of the Falcon''. It was probably meant to come across as a really awesome BadassCreed, but if you know where it comes from it's just facepalm-inducing.* * RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: YMMV on [[BaseBreaker whether she was a scrappy to begin with]], but Solid makes a point of making Flay out to be a sympathetic character by spelling out her character development to a greater degree than the main series did.
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** "Arguably" indeed. Ken has a few of the hallmark MartyStu traits but he also has a host of flaws that make up for them and make him an interesting character in spite of his tendency to hog the spotlight a bit. See the entries for NiceJobBreakingItHero, WhatTheHellHero, and OmniscientMoralityLicense for a few examples.
* {{Narm}}: Ken and Millenia reciting [[FieldOfBlades a certain incantation]] from [[FateStayNight a certain visual novel]] at each other as some sort of pre-battle oath in ''Cry of the Falcon''. It was probably meant to come across as a really awesome BadassCreed, but if you know where it comes from it's just facepalm-inducing.* * RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: YMMV on [[BaseBreaker whether she was a scrappy to begin with]], but Solid makes a point of making Flay out to be a sympathetic character by spelling out her character development to a greater degree than the main series did.examples.
* {{Narm}}: Ken and Millenia reciting [[FieldOfBlades a certain incantation]] from [[FateStayNight a certain visual novel]] at each other as some sort of pre-battle oath in ''Cry of the Falcon''. It was probably meant to come across as a really awesome BadassCreed, but if you know where it comes from it's just facepalm-inducing.* * RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: YMMV on [[BaseBreaker whether she was a scrappy to begin with]], but Solid makes a point of making Flay out to be a sympathetic character by spelling out her character development to a greater degree than the main series did.
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* {{Narm}}: Ken and Millenia reciting [[FieldOfBlades a certain incantation]] from [[FateStayNight a certain visual novel]] at each other as some sort of pre-battle oath in ''Cry of the Falcon''. It was probably meant to come across as a really awesome BadassCreed, but if you know where it comes from it's just facepalm-inducing.* * RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: YMMV on [[BaseBreaker whether she was a scrappy to begin with]], but Solid makes a point of making Flay out to be a sympathetic character by spelling out her character development to a greater degree than the main series did.
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