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* ContemptibleCover: The Harper Trophy covers for the High School books have cartoon-style illustrations with the characters drawn with [[https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Qr6akW6BL.jpg large bug-eyes, sallow cheeks, and tiny pursed lips,]] with some saying that they have a bit of an [[UncannyValley uncanny valley]] feel to them. This was probably intended to evoke a cartoon style of the late 'teens and 1920s, found in magazines like ''Liberty''.
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** When Betsy goes to stay with the Mullers for Christmas in ''Betsy in Spite of Herself'', there's a reference to her and Tib kissing each other goodnight. At the time this was probably just viewed as RomanticTwoGirlFriendship.
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** When Betsy goes to stay with the Mullers for Christmas in ''Betsy in Spite of Herself'', there's a reference to her and Tib kissing each other goodnight. At the time this was probably just viewed as RomanticTwoGirlFriendship.PseudoRomanticFriendship.
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*** Not long after she graduates from ''college'', actually. We learn in ''Betsy and Joe'' that Tacy was planning to attend the German Catholic College in Deep Valley for a program in music education after high school. ''Betsy and the Great World'' says that "when she [Tacy] completed her course in public school music that June, she had married Harry Kerr. He was an aggressive young salesman whom she had met at the Rays' four years before." The timeline is a little confused because this should be June 1913, since we hear shortly after that Joe is beginning his senior year of college after graduating high school in 1910, but it's clear that Tacy has been in her post-secondary program for several years and isn't 18 when she and Harry wed.
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* SocietyMarchesOn: Obviously this trope would appear in a period piece set over a twenty-year period, but it's definitely interesting to see how the trope is actually brought-up several times in-series:
** Two notable examples from Betsy's trip to Milwaukee in ''Betsy in Spite of Herself'':
*** When Tib tells her that's they're going to see a play, Betsy is astonished when told that it's scheduled for Sunday night. She even comments to herself that while her family isn't too straight-laced, they'd ''never'' go to the theater on Sunday. The two end up having a great time.
*** When the two are watching Aunt Dolly prepare for a party, Betsy is scandalized to see her start applying rouge and thinks that she's never seen anyone other than actresses wear it (Tib is unfazed and more fascinated than anything). After seeing how good Dolly looks with it on, Betsy decides to buy her mother rouge with an applicator for a Christmas gift but Tib takes over and purchases it for her after she is too embarrassed to do it herself. Her family is later in stitches as she tells then the story and everyone chases her to try and snatch it before she can give it to her mother. Mrs. Ray loves the gift and says that she plans to use it.
* TechnologyMarchesOn:
** Understandable as this is when automobiles where just beginning to used by the public, but it is unintentionally funny to see Betsy and Phil's exciting first car ride where they pick up speed until they're at a ''thrilling''... twenty miles an hour.
** Two notable examples from Betsy's trip to Milwaukee in ''Betsy in Spite of Herself'':
*** When Tib tells her that's they're going to see a play, Betsy is astonished when told that it's scheduled for Sunday night. She even comments to herself that while her family isn't too straight-laced, they'd ''never'' go to the theater on Sunday. The two end up having a great time.
*** When the two are watching Aunt Dolly prepare for a party, Betsy is scandalized to see her start applying rouge and thinks that she's never seen anyone other than actresses wear it (Tib is unfazed and more fascinated than anything). After seeing how good Dolly looks with it on, Betsy decides to buy her mother rouge with an applicator for a Christmas gift but Tib takes over and purchases it for her after she is too embarrassed to do it herself. Her family is later in stitches as she tells then the story and everyone chases her to try and snatch it before she can give it to her mother. Mrs. Ray loves the gift and says that she plans to use it.
* TechnologyMarchesOn:
** Understandable as this is when automobiles where just beginning to used by the public, but it is unintentionally funny to see Betsy and Phil's exciting first car ride where they pick up speed until they're at a ''thrilling''... twenty miles an hour.
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* SocietyMarchesOn: Obviously this trope would appear in a period piece set over a twenty-year period, but it's definitely interesting to see how the trope is actually brought-up several times in-series:
**Two notable examples from Betsy's trip to Milwaukee in ''Betsy in Spite of Herself'':
***When Tib tells her that's they're going to see a play, Betsy is astonished when told that it's scheduled for Sunday night. She even comments to herself that while her family isn't too straight-laced, they'd ''never'' go to the theater on Sunday. The two end up having a great time.
***When the two are watching Aunt Dolly prepare for a party, Betsy is scandalized to see her start applying rouge and thinks that she's never seen anyone other than actresses wear it (Tib is unfazed and more fascinated than anything). After seeing how good Dolly looks with it on, Betsy decides to buy her mother rouge with an applicator for a Christmas gift but Tib takes over and purchases it for her after she is too embarrassed to do it herself. Her family is later in stitches as she tells then the story and everyone chases her to try and snatch it before she can give it to her mother. Mrs. Ray loves the gift and says that she plans to use it.
**Two notable examples from Betsy's trip to Milwaukee in ''Betsy in Spite of Herself'':
***When Tib tells her that's they're going to see a play, Betsy is astonished when told that it's scheduled for Sunday night. She even comments to herself that while her family isn't too straight-laced, they'd ''never'' go to the theater on Sunday. The two end up having a great time.
***When the two are watching Aunt Dolly prepare for a party, Betsy is scandalized to see her start applying rouge and thinks that she's never seen anyone other than actresses wear it (Tib is unfazed and more fascinated than anything). After seeing how good Dolly looks with it on, Betsy decides to buy her mother rouge with an applicator for a Christmas gift but Tib takes over and purchases it for her after she is too embarrassed to do it herself. Her family is later in stitches as she tells then the story and everyone chases her to try and snatch it before she can give it to her mother. Mrs. Ray loves the gift and says that she plans to use it.
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** Although Harry Kerr and Tacy clearly love each other, the age gap in their relationship can be disconcerting to modern readers, especially at their first meeting where 28 year-old Harry falls for a girl who's ten years his junior and a few months away from finishing High School. He pursues her throughout her senior year and she marries him not long after she graduates.
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** Although Harry Kerr and Tacy clearly love each other, the age gap in their relationship can be disconcerting to modern readers, especially at their first meeting where 28 year-old Harry falls for a girl who's ten years his junior and a few months away from finishing High School. He pursues her throughout the rest of her senior year and she marries him not long after she graduates.
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** Although Harry Kerr and Tacy clearly love each other, the age gap in their relationship can be disconcerting to modern readers, especially at their first meeting where 28 year old Harry falls for a girl who's ten years his junior and a few months away from finishing High School. He pursues her throughout her senior year and she marries him not long after she graduates.
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** Although Harry Kerr and Tacy clearly love each other, the age gap in their relationship can be disconcerting to modern readers, especially at their first meeting where 28 year old year-old Harry falls for a girl who's ten years his junior and a few months away from finishing High School. He pursues her throughout her senior year and she marries him not long after she graduates.
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** Although Harry Kerr and Tacy clearly love each other, the age gap in their relationship can be disconcerting to modern readers, especially at their first meeting where 28 year old Harry falls for a girl who's ten years his junior and a few months away from finishing High School. She marries him not long after she graduates.
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** Although Harry Kerr and Tacy clearly love each other, the age gap in their relationship can be disconcerting to modern readers, especially at their first meeting where 28 year old Harry falls for a girl who's ten years his junior and a few months away from finishing High School. She He pursues her throughout her senior year and she marries him not long after she graduates.
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* ContemptibleCover: The Harper Trophy covers for the High School books have cartoon-style illustrations with the characters drawn with [[https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Qr6akW6BL.jpg large bug-eyes, sallow cheeks, and tiny pursed lips,]] with some saying that they have a bit of an [[UncannyValley uncanny valley]] feel to them.
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* ContemptibleCover: The Harper Trophy covers for the High School books have cartoon-style illustrations with the characters drawn with [[https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Qr6akW6BL.jpg large bug-eyes, sallow cheeks, and tiny pursed lips,]] with some saying that they have a bit of an [[UncannyValley uncanny valley]] feel to them. This was probably intended to evoke a cartoon style of the late 'teens and 1920s, found in magazines like ''Liberty''.
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** ''Winona's Pony Cart'' gets this as well as it came out long after the original childhood books were written, with one criticism stating that it's writing style makes it feel more like a contemporary 1950's childrens book than a ''Betsy-Tacy'' book.
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** ''Winona's Pony Cart'' gets this as well as it came out long after the original childhood books were written, with one criticism stating that it's its writing style makes it feel more like a contemporary 1950's childrens children's book than a ''Betsy-Tacy'' book.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Dr. Wilson, whose diet theory involves not eating meat or coffee and instead eating fruit, vegetables and whole-grain breads, is a bit ahead of his time for his vegetarian/vegan eating habits that would become increasingly popular decades later. He is likely based on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendentalism Transcendentalists]] who practiced this regimen at that time, including Bronson Alcott, the father of Creator/LouisaMayAlcott.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Dr. Wilson, whose diet theory involves not eating meat or coffee and instead eating fruit, vegetables and whole-grain breads, is a bit ahead of his time for his vegetarian/vegan eating habits that would become increasingly popular decades later. He is likely based on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendentalism Transcendentalists]] who practiced this regimen at that time, including Bronson Alcott, the father of Creator/LouisaMayAlcott. In many ways they were the precursors of modern [[NewAgeRetroHippie hippies]], from whom the present-day natural food/vegetarian movement evolved.
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** Mr. and Mrs. Ray's overwhelming support in their daughters' careers, with Julia becoming an opera singer and Betsy becoming a published writer, despite this being a time when most women were expected to only get married and become a homemaker.
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** Mr. and Mrs. Ray's overwhelming support in their daughters' careers, with Julia becoming an opera singer and Betsy becoming a published writer, despite this being a time when most women were expected to only get married and become a homemaker. Things were ''just'' starting to change on this. Women going to college was such a stunning idea that Helen Keller's classmates at Radcliffe (Class of '04) considered themselves to be extremely forward-looking, world-changing innovators just for being there.
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** ''Betsy Was a Junior'' is one of the more disliked books by fans, with many claiming that it feels like a slog to get through along with the hamfisted "sororities are bad because you exclude people" moral. It probably doesn't help that it comes right before fan favorite, ''Betsy and Joe''.
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** ''Betsy Was a Junior'' is one of the more disliked books by fans, with many claiming that it feels like a slog to get through along with alongside the hamfisted "sororities are bad because you exclude people" others" moral. It probably doesn't help that it comes right before fan favorite, ''Betsy and Joe''.
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** ''Betsy Was a Junior'' is one of the more disliked books by fans, with many claiming that it feels like a slog to get through along with the hamfisted "Sororities are bad because you exclude people" moral. It probably doesn't help that it comes right before fan favorite, ''Betsy and Joe''.
** ''Winona's Pony Cart'' gets this as well as it came out long after the original childhood books were written, with one criticism stating that it's writing style makes it feel more like a contemporary 50's kids book than a ''Betsy-Tacy'' book.
** ''Winona's Pony Cart'' gets this as well as it came out long after the original childhood books were written, with one criticism stating that it's writing style makes it feel more like a contemporary 50's kids book than a ''Betsy-Tacy'' book.
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** ''Betsy Was a Junior'' is one of the more disliked books by fans, with many claiming that it feels like a slog to get through along with the hamfisted "Sororities "sororities are bad because you exclude people" moral. It probably doesn't help that it comes right before fan favorite, ''Betsy and Joe''.
** ''Winona's Pony Cart'' gets this as well as it came out long after the original childhood books were written, with one criticism stating that it's writing style makes it feel more like a contemporary50's kids 1950's childrens book than a ''Betsy-Tacy'' book.
** ''Winona's Pony Cart'' gets this as well as it came out long after the original childhood books were written, with one criticism stating that it's writing style makes it feel more like a contemporary
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** ''Betsy Was a Junior'' is one of the more disliked books by fans, with many claiming that it feels like a slog to get through. It probably doesn't help that it comes right before fan favorite, ''Betsy and Joe''.
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** ''Betsy Was a Junior'' is one of the more disliked books by fans, with many claiming that it feels like a slog to get through.through along with the hamfisted "Sororities are bad because you exclude people" moral. It probably doesn't help that it comes right before fan favorite, ''Betsy and Joe''.
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*** The Rays are honestly ''amazing'' parents. When Betsy is going through a depression, her grades are dropping, and is feeling unfulfilled with college, it's Mr. Ray who suggest she go and study abroad instead.
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*** The Rays are honestly ''amazing'' parents. When Betsy is going through a depression, her grades are dropping, and is feeling unfulfilled with college, it's Mr. Ray who suggest suggests she go and study abroad instead.instead, reasoning that she would probably learn more in the real world than returning to an environment that she's currently wilting in.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Used and acknowledged in a chapter in-story. The [[WiseBeyondTheirYears twelve-year-old trio]] lose a copy of Mary Elizabeth Braddon's ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Audley%27s_Secret Lady Audley's Secret]]'' they borrowed from Tib's maid. Their folks consider such books "trash" and Tib's father actually burned it, meaning they've got to come up with a scheme for a dime (about $2.50 today) to buy a new one, hopefully without their parents finding out. Published in 1862, this book was absolutely real, and one of many sensational DimeNovel s of the time. Said book involves the heroine deserting her child, [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath shoving her first husband down a well, planning to poison her second husband, and committing hotel arson]]. Betsy aspires to write books just like it.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Used and acknowledged in a chapter in-story. The [[WiseBeyondTheirYears twelve-year-old trio]] lose a copy of Mary Elizabeth Braddon's ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Audley%27s_Secret Lady Audley's Secret]]'' they borrowed from Tib's maid. Their folks consider such books "trash" and Tib's father actually burned it, meaning they've got to come up with a scheme for a dime (about $2.50 today) to buy a new one, hopefully without their parents finding out. Published in 1862, this book was absolutely real, and one of many sensational DimeNovel s [[DimeNovel dime novels]] of the time. Said book involves the heroine deserting her child, [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath shoving her first husband down a well, planning to poison her second husband, and committing hotel arson]]. Betsy aspires to write books just like it.
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: During a meeting on class fundraising, Betsy suggests a Leap Year Dance where the girls ask out the boys and pay for the event, which gets chosen and is a big hit. This actually was a tradition from the early 20th century, where a woman could propose marriage to a man as long as it was on a Leap Year.
* ContemptibleCover: The Harper Trohpy covers for the High School books have cartoon-style illustrations with the characters drawn with [[https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Qr6akW6BL.jpg large bug-eyes, sallow cheeks, and tiny pursed lips,]] with some saying that they have a bit of an [[UncannyValley uncanny valley]] feel to them.
* ContemptibleCover: The Harper Trohpy covers for the High School books have cartoon-style illustrations with the characters drawn with [[https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Qr6akW6BL.jpg large bug-eyes, sallow cheeks, and tiny pursed lips,]] with some saying that they have a bit of an [[UncannyValley uncanny valley]] feel to them.
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: During a meeting on class fundraising, Betsy suggests a Leap Year Dance where the girls ask out the boys and pay for the event, which gets chosen and is a big hit. This actually was a tradition from the early 20th century, century similar to Sadie Hawkins Day, where a woman could propose marriage to a man as long as it was on a Leap Year.
Year. This tradition continued into the 1970s.
* ContemptibleCover: The HarperTrohpy Trophy covers for the High School books have cartoon-style illustrations with the characters drawn with [[https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Qr6akW6BL.jpg large bug-eyes, sallow cheeks, and tiny pursed lips,]] with some saying that they have a bit of an [[UncannyValley uncanny valley]] feel to them.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Dr. Wilson, whose diet theory involves not eating meat or coffee and instead eating fruit, vegetables and whole-grain breads, is a bit ahead of his time for his vegetarian/vegan eating habits that would become increasingly popular decades later.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Dr. Wilson, whose diet theory involves not eating meat or coffee and instead eating fruit, vegetables and whole-grain breads, is a bit ahead of his time for his vegetarian/vegan eating habits that would become increasingly popular decades later. He is likely based on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendentalism Transcendentalists]] who practiced this regimen at that time, including Bronson Alcott, the father of Creator/LouisaMayAlcott.
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** In ''Betsy-Tacy Go Downtown'', the girls go to see a play of ''[[Literature/UncleTomsCabin Uncle Tom's Cabin]]''. It's made pretty explicit that the actors playing the black characters are white people in blackface.
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** In ''Betsy-Tacy ''Betsy & Tacy Go Downtown'', the girls go to see a play of ''[[Literature/UncleTomsCabin Uncle Tom's Cabin]]''. It's made pretty explicit that the actors playing the black characters are white people in blackface.
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*** The Rays are honestly ''amazing'' parents. When Betsy is going through a depression, her grades are dropping, and is feeling unfulfilled with college, It's it's Mr. Ray who suggest she goes go and studies study abroad instead.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Used and acknowledged in a chapter in-story. The [[WiseBeyondTheirYears twelve-year-old trio]] lose a stolen copy of ''Lady Audley's Secret'' and they plan to buy and replace it with a new copy, hopefully without their parents finding out. Said book involves the heroine deserting her child, [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath shoving her first husband down a well, planning to poison her second husband, and committing hotel arson]].
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Used and acknowledged in a chapter in-story. The [[WiseBeyondTheirYears twelve-year-old trio]] lose a stolen copy of ''Lady Mary Elizabeth Braddon's ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Audley%27s_Secret Lady Audley's Secret'' and Secret]]'' they plan borrowed from Tib's maid. Their folks consider such books "trash" and Tib's father actually burned it, meaning they've got to come up with a scheme for a dime (about $2.50 today) to buy and replace it with a new copy, one, hopefully without their parents finding out.out. Published in 1862, this book was absolutely real, and one of many sensational DimeNovel s of the time. Said book involves the heroine deserting her child, [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath shoving her first husband down a well, planning to poison her second husband, and committing hotel arson]]. Betsy aspires to write books just like it.
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** ''Winona's Pony Cart'' gets this as well as it was written long after the original childhood books were written, with one criticism stating that it's writing style makes it feel more like a contemporary 50's kids book than a ''Betsy-Tacy'' book.
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** ''Winona's Pony Cart'' gets this as well as it was written came out long after the original childhood books were written, with one criticism stating that it's writing style makes it feel more like a contemporary 50's kids book than a ''Betsy-Tacy'' book.
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* ContestedSequel: ''Betsy Was a Junior'' is one of the more disliked books by fans, with many claiming that it feels like a slog to get through. It probably doesn't help that it comes right before fan favorite, ''Betsy and Joe''.
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**''Betsy Was a Junior'' is one of the more disliked books by fans, with many claiming that it feels like a slog to get through. It probably doesn't help that it comes right before fan favorite, ''Betsy andJoe''.Joe''.
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**''Betsy Was a Junior'' is one of the more disliked books by fans, with many claiming that it feels like a slog to get through. It probably doesn't help that it comes right before fan favorite, ''Betsy and
**''Winona's Pony Cart'' gets this as well as it was written long after the original childhood books were written, with one criticism stating that it's writing style makes it feel more like a contemporary 50's kids book than a ''Betsy-Tacy'' book.
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* ContestedSequel: ''Betsy Was a Junior'' is one of the more disliked books by fans, with many claiming that it feels like a slog to get through. It probably doesn't help that it comes right before one of the [[FanFavorite fan favorites]], favorite, ''Betsy and Joe''.
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* ContestedSequel: ''Besty Was a Junior'' is one of the more disliked books by fans, with many claiming that it feels like a slog to get through.
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* ContestedSequel: ''Besty ''Betsy Was a Junior'' is one of the more disliked books by fans, with many claiming that it feels like a slog to get through.through. It probably doesn't help that it comes right before one of the [[FanFavorite fan favorites]], ''Betsy and Joe''.
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** Understandable as this is when automobiles where just beginning to used by the public, but it is unintentionally funny to see Betsy and Phil's exciting first car ride where they pick up speed until they're at a thrilling... twenty miles an hour.
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** Understandable as this is when automobiles where just beginning to used by the public, but it is unintentionally funny to see Betsy and Phil's exciting first car ride where they pick up speed until they're at a thrilling...''thrilling''... twenty miles an hour.
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* ContestedSequel: 'Besty ''Besty Was a Junior' Junior'' is one of the more disliked books by fan, with many claiming that it feels like a slog to get through.
