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** Jinjiro Kurita crossed this line almost as soon as he inherited the title of Coordinator with three words: "Kill them all." Meaning [[http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Kentares_Massacre slaughter the entire populace of Kentares IV]]. When one of the generals present asked for clarification, [[BadBoss Jinjiro had him killed]]. Ninety percent of the planet's population, ''Fifty-two million people'', were murdered by Draconis Combine soldiers with their swords over the next five months, which Jinjiro had recorded so he could watch the massacres whenever he pleased. [=ComStar=] members on the planet were so horrified they [[NeutralNoLonger broke their neutrality]] and smuggled video of the atrocity out to the rest of the Inner Sphere, and the previously-losing Federated Suns were galvanized by what went down in history as the single largest war crime in Human history.

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** Jinjiro Kurita crossed this line almost as soon as he inherited the title of Coordinator with three words: "Kill them all." Meaning [[http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Kentares_Massacre slaughter the entire populace of Kentares IV]]. When one of the generals present asked for clarification, [[BadBoss Jinjiro had him killed]]. Ninety percent of the planet's population, ''Fifty-two million people'', were murdered by Draconis Combine soldiers with their swords over the next five months, which Jinjiro had recorded so he could watch the massacres whenever he pleased. Many of his own soldiers not too hopped up on propaganda and jingoism to take perverse pride in following such a "difficult" order were DrivenToSuicide before, during, and after the atrocity. [=ComStar=] members on the planet were so horrified they [[NeutralNoLonger broke their neutrality]] and smuggled video of the atrocity out to the rest of the Inner Sphere, and the previously-losing Federated Suns were galvanized by what went down in history as the single largest war crime in Human history.
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** Nicholas Kerensky was either a driven visionary or a figure of evil, and there's plenty of evidence for both. Did he genuinely have a vison of a better society in which civilians and infrastructure were spared the horror and suffering of endless warfare, and the sacrifices which brought it about were a fair price (or, at worst, [[IDidWhatIHadToDo absolutely necessary]])? Or was he a megalomanical sociopath who wanted to reshape humanity in his own image so he would be [[AGodAmI revered like unto a god]] by all who lived in his utopia? Again, there's plenty of evidence to support both interpretations.
*** For that matter, the people who followed Nicholas and became the Clans. Were they really buying his grand vision because they felt it was a better way, were they won over by his charisma and impassioned words? Or were they just so sick and tired of fighting and conflict and total war that any option at all to end it seemed like pure genius?

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** Nicholas Kerensky was either a driven visionary or a figure of evil, and there's plenty of evidence for both. Did he genuinely have a vison of a better society in which civilians and infrastructure were spared the horror and suffering of endless warfare, and the sacrifices which brought it about were a fair price (or, at worst, [[IDidWhatIHadToDo absolutely necessary]])? Or was he a megalomanical sociopath who wanted to reshape humanity in his own image so he would be [[AGodAmI revered like unto a god]] by all who lived in his utopia? utopia, then [[{{Hypocrite}} killed everyone who improved on his vision in his own lifetime rather than admit it might be flawed]]? Again, there's plenty of evidence to support both interpretations.
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*** For that matter, the people who followed Nicholas and became the Clans. Were they really buying his grand vision because they felt it was a better way, were they won over by his charisma and impassioned words? Or were they just so sick and tired of fighting and conflict and total war that any option at all to end it seemed like pure genius?genius?
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** [[TransformableMecha Land-Air 'Mechs]]. Either they are horribly broken and a vestige of the franchise's anime origins that needs to be left in the '80s, or they are the ultimate pinnacle of the game, hobbled by designers who just want to get rid of them. It says a lot that discussion of Land-Air 'Mechs were officially banned on the official forums for a period, because they attracted nothing but flame wars.

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** [[TransformableMecha [[TransformingMecha Land-Air 'Mechs]]. Either they are horribly broken and a vestige of the franchise's anime origins that needs to be left in the '80s, or they are the ultimate pinnacle of the game, hobbled by designers who just want to get rid of them. It says a lot that discussion of Land-Air 'Mechs were officially banned on the official forums for a period, because they attracted nothing but flame wars.
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** [[TransformableMecha Land-Air 'Mechs]]. Either they are horribly broken and a vestige of the franchise's anime origins that needs to be left in the '80s, or they are the ultimate pinnacle of the game, hobbled by designers who just want to get rid of them. It says a lot that discussion of Land-Air 'Mechs were officially banned on the official forums for a period, because they attracted nothing but flame wars.

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**[[MasterOfDisguise The Dancing Joker]], aka "Noble Thayer", is the most famous alias of the Inner Sphere's most skilled and sought-after [[ProfessionalKiller virtuoso assassin]]. He first makes a splash by killing Melissa Steiner with a bomb that wounds and maims many others including Morgan Kell, and kills many more, including Morgan's wife Salome. He later sets up shop on Zurich, where he takes up the Dancing Joker nickname as he leads an insurgency against [[PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny Xu Ning's Capellan-backed government]] during the Chaos March debacle. Dancing Joker sets up his lover, Cathy Hanney, to be captured and tortured for information by Xu Ning's forces as just another step in his plan to topple the regime, because he figures "overthrow planetary government" looks good on a resume. Against all the [[WarIsHell horrors of war]] seen in the ''[=BattleTech=]'' universe, [[PsychoForHire the Dancing Joker]] still manages to stand out for the sheer depth of his utter lack of any human emotion or morality, even if he's incredibly good at faking those things.
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* FriendlyFandoms: While there's still some bad blood among older fans towards ''Anime/{{Macross}}'' and ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' over the whole Unseen debacle, other segments of all three fandoms are likely to commiserate with one another over how ''all three'' have been ScrewedByTheLawyers due to the insanely complicated ownership and licensing disputes.
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*** Even before that. It is mentioned that Kerensky [[ThePurge hunted down and executed]] various people in the Rim Worlds Republic and later Hegemony for [[DisproportionateRetribution merely having the name Amaris]], having various people killed for an at best distant blood relation to the Usuper. He also put Amaris entire personal family against the wall after the war, including very likely [[WouldHurtAChild several children]] for the [[SinsOfTheFather crimes of their (grand)father]]. This massive [[ThePurge Purge]], in addition to his fanatical loyality to the Star League, a State build on 100 Million deaths in the reunification war, makes one wonder if Kerensky was actually the hero he is revered as, or just another [[InsaneAdmiral Amos Forlough]] who just happened to have the moral luck of being pitted against [[CompleteMonster Stefan Amaris]].

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*** Even before that. It is mentioned that Kerensky [[ThePurge hunted down and executed]] various people in the Rim Worlds Republic and later Hegemony for [[DisproportionateRetribution merely having the name Amaris]], having various people killed for an at best distant blood relation to the Usuper. He also put Amaris entire personal family against the wall after the war, including very likely [[WouldHurtAChild several children]] for the [[SinsOfTheFather crimes of their (grand)father]]. This massive [[ThePurge Purge]], in addition to his fanatical loyality to the Star League, a State build on 100 Million deaths in the reunification war, makes one wonder if Kerensky was actually the hero he is revered as, or just another [[InsaneAdmiral Amos Forlough]] who just happened to have the moral luck MoralLuck of being pitted against [[CompleteMonster Stefan Amaris]].
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*** Even before that. It is mentioned that Kerensky [[ThePurge hunted down and executed]] various people in the Rim Worlds Republic and later Hegemony for [[DisproportionateRetribution merely having the name Amaris]], having various people killed for an at best distant blood relation to the Usuper. He also put Amaris entire personal family against the wall after the war, including very likely [[WouldHurtAChild several children]] for the [[SinsOfTheFather crimes of their (grand)father]]. This massive [[ThePurge Purge]], in addition to his fanatical loyality to the Star League, a State build on 100 Million deaths in the reunification war, makes one wonder if Kerensky was actually the hero he is revered as, or just another [[InsaneAdmiral Amos Forlough]] who just happened to have the moral luck of being pitted against [[CompleteMonster Stephan Amaris]].

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*** Even before that. It is mentioned that Kerensky [[ThePurge hunted down and executed]] various people in the Rim Worlds Republic and later Hegemony for [[DisproportionateRetribution merely having the name Amaris]], having various people killed for an at best distant blood relation to the Usuper. He also put Amaris entire personal family against the wall after the war, including very likely [[WouldHurtAChild several children]] for the [[SinsOfTheFather crimes of their (grand)father]]. This massive [[ThePurge Purge]], in addition to his fanatical loyality to the Star League, a State build on 100 Million deaths in the reunification war, makes one wonder if Kerensky was actually the hero he is revered as, or just another [[InsaneAdmiral Amos Forlough]] who just happened to have the moral luck of being pitted against [[CompleteMonster Stephan Stefan Amaris]].
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*** Even before that. It is mentioned that Kerensky [[ThePurge hunted down and executed]] various people in the Rim Worlds Republic and later Hegemony for merely having the name Amaris, having various people killed for an at best distant blood relation to the Usuper. He also put Amaris entire personal family against the wall after the war, including very likely [[WouldHurtAChild several children]] for the [[SinsOfTheFather crimes of their (grand)father]]. This massive [[ThePurge Purge]], in addition to his fanatical loyality to the Star League, a State build on 100 Million deaths in the reunification war, makes one wonder if Kerensky was actually the hero he is revered as, or just another [[InsaneAdmiral Amos Forlough]] who just happened to have the moral luck of being pitted against [[CompleteMonster Stephan Amaris]].

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*** Even before that. It is mentioned that Kerensky [[ThePurge hunted down and executed]] various people in the Rim Worlds Republic and later Hegemony for [[DisproportionateRetribution merely having the name Amaris, Amaris]], having various people killed for an at best distant blood relation to the Usuper. He also put Amaris entire personal family against the wall after the war, including very likely [[WouldHurtAChild several children]] for the [[SinsOfTheFather crimes of their (grand)father]]. This massive [[ThePurge Purge]], in addition to his fanatical loyality to the Star League, a State build on 100 Million deaths in the reunification war, makes one wonder if Kerensky was actually the hero he is revered as, or just another [[InsaneAdmiral Amos Forlough]] who just happened to have the moral luck of being pitted against [[CompleteMonster Stephan Amaris]].
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** Even before that. It is mentioned that Kerensky [[ThePurge hunted down and executed]] various people in the Rim Worlds Republic and later Hegemony for merely having the name Amaris, having various people killed for an at best distant blood relation to the Usuper. He also put Amaris entire personal family against the wall after the war, including very likely [[WouldHurtAChild several children]] for the [[SinsOfTheFather crimes of their (grand)father]]. This massive [[ThePurge Purge]], in addition to his fanatical loyality to the Star League, a State build on 100 Million deaths in the reunification war, makes one wonder if Kerensky was actually the hero he is revered as, or just another [[InsaneAdmiral Amos Forlough]] who just happened to have the moral luck of being pitted against [[CompleteMonster Stephan Amaris]].

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** *** Even before that. It is mentioned that Kerensky [[ThePurge hunted down and executed]] various people in the Rim Worlds Republic and later Hegemony for merely having the name Amaris, having various people killed for an at best distant blood relation to the Usuper. He also put Amaris entire personal family against the wall after the war, including very likely [[WouldHurtAChild several children]] for the [[SinsOfTheFather crimes of their (grand)father]]. This massive [[ThePurge Purge]], in addition to his fanatical loyality to the Star League, a State build on 100 Million deaths in the reunification war, makes one wonder if Kerensky was actually the hero he is revered as, or just another [[InsaneAdmiral Amos Forlough]] who just happened to have the moral luck of being pitted against [[CompleteMonster Stephan Amaris]].
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** Even before that. It is mentioned that Kerensky [[ThePurge hunted down and executed]] various people in the Rim Worlds Republic and later Hegemony for merely having the name Amaris, having various people killed for an at best distant blood relation to the Usuper. He also put Amaris entire personal family against the wall after the war, including very likely [[WouldHurtAChild several children]] for the [[SinsOfTheFather crimes of their (grand)father]]. This massive [[ThePurge Purge]], in addition to his fanatical loyality to the Star League, a State build on 100 Million deaths in the reunification war, makes one wonder if Kerensky was actually the hero he is revered as, or just another [[InsaneAdmiral Amos Forlough]] who just happened to have the moral luck of being pitted against [[CompleteMonster Stephan Amaris]].
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* StatusQuoIsGod: In this case, the status quo is "constant warfare." Each conflict resolution only sets up the next conflict (much like how [=WWI=] led to [=WW2=] led to the Cold War, for a modern example). Even besides the major wars - the Succession Wars, the Clan Invasion, the FedCom Civil War, and the Blakist Jihad - there are constant clashes among secessionist rebels, organized criminals, rogue mercenaries, petty nobles, extremist terrorists, chest-thumping Clanners, and many more to keep driving the action. Even during times of alleged peace, like the eras of the Star League era and the Republic of the Sphere, there are discreet shadow wars taking place between rival factions looking to have a head start when the next inevitable war launches.

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* StatusQuoIsGod: In this case, the status quo is "constant warfare." Each conflict resolution only sets up the next conflict (much like how [=WWI=] led to [=WW2=] led to the Cold War, for a modern example). Even besides the major wars - the Succession Wars, the Clan Invasion, the FedCom [=FedCom=] Civil War, and the Blakist Jihad - there are constant clashes among secessionist rebels, organized criminals, rogue mercenaries, petty nobles, extremist terrorists, chest-thumping Clanners, and many more to keep driving the action. Even during times of alleged peace, like the eras of the Star League era and the Republic of the Sphere, there are discreet shadow wars taking place between rival factions looking to have a head start when the next inevitable war launches.

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