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** If Jesse Jackson as a guest in an ancient history show is not enough to kill all of its seriousness, his bizarre claims that Carthage (historically, a Semitic colony in a Berber land) was somehow a bulwark of black culture (whatever that is) just sell it, adding to the Barca family being accordingly portrayed by black actors in the show. Good thing the documentary was released two years before ''Film/BlackPanther2018'', as it is unlikely the producers had resisted the temptation to claim that Carthage was the real life version of Wakanda.

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** If Jesse Jackson as a guest in an ancient history show is not enough to kill all of its seriousness, his bizarre claims that Carthage (historically, a Semitic colony in a Berber land) was somehow a bulwark of black culture (whatever that is) just sell it, adding to the Barca family being accordingly portrayed by black actors in the show. Good thing the documentary was released two years before ''Film/BlackPanther2018'', as it is unlikely the producers had would have resisted the temptation to claim that Carthage was the real life version of Wakanda.

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Removed an "is the entire work good or bad?" Broken Base entry, a Magnificent Bastard entry that was not made and approved by the cleanup thread, and an now-Flame Bait Unfortunate Implications entry that will be zapped because the source has no evidence that it is more than one person's thinking.


* BrokenBase: Is this a fun yet educative dramatic show with some forgivable artistic licenses, or a disaster whose entertaining value doesn't compensate for its misinformation and over-the-top anti-Roman stance?



* MagnificentBastard: Geiseric is portrayed as a smooth but brutal man who brilliantly plays the Roman court against each other ''and'' Attila the Hun. Even Aetius' unexpected victory at the Catalaunian Plains ultimately works in his favor, as he himself notes, given Emperor Valentinian's incompetence and paranoia.



** If Jesse Jackson as a guest in an ancient history show is not enough to kill all of its seriousness, his bizarre claims that Carthage (historically, a Semitic colony in a Berber land) was somehow a bulwark of black culture (whatever that is) just sell it, adding to the Barca family being accordingly portrayed by black actors in the show. Good thing the documentary was released two years before ''Film/BlackPanther'', as it is unlikely the producers had resisted the temptation to claim that Carthage was the real life version of Wakanda.

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** If Jesse Jackson as a guest in an ancient history show is not enough to kill all of its seriousness, his bizarre claims that Carthage (historically, a Semitic colony in a Berber land) was somehow a bulwark of black culture (whatever that is) just sell it, adding to the Barca family being accordingly portrayed by black actors in the show. Good thing the documentary was released two years before ''Film/BlackPanther'', ''Film/BlackPanther2018'', as it is unlikely the producers had resisted the temptation to claim that Carthage was the real life version of Wakanda.



* UnfortunateImplications: The decision to have a black actor playing the historically Punic Hannibal was [[https://medium.com/east-med-project-history-philology-and-genetics/the-insidious-racism-of-mary-beard-et-al-8b6b768b4575 criticized]] by Lebanese-American essayist Nassim Taleb, who noted it conveyed the unpleasantly racist message that all non-white races are interchangeable and form an unified "other".
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* AwesomeMusic: Just listen to the show's theme tune. [https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiwu5-S8vv5AhWwgv0HHZ9QDnMQtwJ6BAgCEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0HWLWPBCeBw&usg=AOvVaw14elC8nUSdvrRh1aHE5p5T]

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* AwesomeMusic: Just listen to SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Befitting a documentary about the Roman Empire, the show's theme tune. [https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiwu5-S8vv5AhWwgv0HHZ9QDnMQtwJ6BAgCEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0HWLWPBCeBw&usg=AOvVaw14elC8nUSdvrRh1aHE5p5T]song is an ''epic'' orchestral rock number.
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* AwesomeMusic: Just listen to the show's theme tune. [https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiwu5-S8vv5AhWwgv0HHZ9QDnMQtwJ6BAgCEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0HWLWPBCeBw&usg=AOvVaw14elC8nUSdvrRh1aHE5p5T]
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* UnfortunateImplications: The decision to have a black actor playing the historically Punic Hannibal was [[https://medium.com/east-med-project-history-philology-and-genetics/the-insidious-racism-of-mary-beard-et-al-8b6b768b4575 criticized]] by Lebanese-American essayist Nassim Taleb, who noted it conveyed the unpleasantly racist message that all non-white races are interchangeable and form an unified "other".
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-->'''IMDB reviewer:''' "Please, do not call this history. This is just a epic-romantic fictional drama. The fight of good against evil. An idealistic quest for freedom... Nothing to do with real history. Not only they get all the facts mixed up, when not entirely wrong, the worst is the "analysis" by the "experts". They really sound like 7-year-olds talking about the last Disney cartoon. They do not understand the politics at all, how an empire is built. I gave it 6 for the effort and, because as a work of fiction, it deserves some recognition."

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-->'''IMDB --->'''IMDB reviewer:''' "Please, do not call this history. This is just a epic-romantic fictional drama. The fight of good against evil. An idealistic quest for freedom... Nothing to do with real history. Not only they get all the facts mixed up, when not entirely wrong, the worst is the "analysis" by the "experts". They really sound like 7-year-olds talking about the last Disney cartoon. They do not understand the politics at all, how an empire is built. I gave it 6 for the effort and, because as a work of fiction, it deserves some recognition."



** If Jesse Jackson as a guest in an ancient history show is not enough to kill all of its seriousness, his bizarre claims that Carthage (historically, a Semitic colony in a Berber land) was somehow a bulwark of black culture (whatever that is) just sell it, adding to the Barca family being accordingly portrayed by black actors. Good thing the documentary was released two years before ''Film/BlackPanther'', as it is unlikely the producers had resisted the temptation to claim that Carthage was the real life version of Wakanda.
** For a Spanish or Portuguese viewer, the scenes set in ancient Hispania can be hilarious to watch for how obviously they are ''not'' filmed in the Iberian Peninsula or any country with a vaguely similar climate. The dark, gloomy forests seen in the Battle of Tribola are literally the opposite to how the real life place should look.

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** If Jesse Jackson as a guest in an ancient history show is not enough to kill all of its seriousness, his bizarre claims that Carthage (historically, a Semitic colony in a Berber land) was somehow a bulwark of black culture (whatever that is) just sell it, adding to the Barca family being accordingly portrayed by black actors.actors in the show. Good thing the documentary was released two years before ''Film/BlackPanther'', as it is unlikely the producers had resisted the temptation to claim that Carthage was the real life version of Wakanda.
** For a Spanish or Portuguese viewer, the scenes set in ancient Hispania can be hilarious to watch for how obviously they are ''not'' filmed in the Iberian Peninsula or any country with even a vaguely similar climate. The dark, gloomy forests seen in the Battle of Tribola are literally the opposite to how the real life place should look.
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* BrokenBase: Is this a fun yet educative dramatic show with some forgivable artistic licenses, or a disaster whose entertaining value doesn't compensate for its desinformation and over-the-top anti-Roman stance?

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* BrokenBase: Is this a fun yet educative dramatic show with some forgivable artistic licenses, or a disaster whose entertaining value doesn't compensate for its desinformation misinformation and over-the-top anti-Roman stance?



** Common people often rate positively the show for its good cast, acting and sequences, while critics and history buffs tend to hate it for presenting an incredibly slanted and idealized view of the events it covers.

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** Common people often rate positively the show for its good cast, acting and sequences, while critics and history buffs tend to hate it for presenting an incredibly slanted and idealized view unfaithful version of the events it covers.



** Ironically, critics have also been known to mildly praise the show in comparison with Creator/TheHistoryChannel's [[NetworkDecay recent lineups]] for [[DamnedByFaintPraise actually being a historical documentary]].

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** Ironically, some critics have also been known to mildly praise the show in comparison with Creator/TheHistoryChannel's [[NetworkDecay recent lineups]] for [[DamnedByFaintPraise actually being a historical documentary]].



** If Jesse Jackson as a guest in an ancient history show is not enough to kill all its seriousness, his loony claims that Carthage (historically, a Semitic colony in a Berber land) was somehow a bulwark of world black culture (whatever that is) just sell it. Good thing the documentary was released two years before ''Film/BlackPanther'', as it is unlikely the producers had resisted the temptation to claim that Carthage was the real life version of Wakanda.
** For a Spanish or Portuguese viewer, the scenes set in ancient Hispania can be hilarious to watch for how obviously they are ''not'' shot in the Iberian Peninsula or any other nearby land. The dark, gloomy forests seen in the Battle of Tribola are literally the opposite of how Andalusian vegetation and terrain should look.

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** If Jesse Jackson as a guest in an ancient history show is not enough to kill all of its seriousness, his loony bizarre claims that Carthage (historically, a Semitic colony in a Berber land) was somehow a bulwark of world black culture (whatever that is) just sell it.it, adding to the Barca family being accordingly portrayed by black actors. Good thing the documentary was released two years before ''Film/BlackPanther'', as it is unlikely the producers had resisted the temptation to claim that Carthage was the real life version of Wakanda.
** For a Spanish or Portuguese viewer, the scenes set in ancient Hispania can be hilarious to watch for how obviously they are ''not'' shot filmed in the Iberian Peninsula or any other nearby land. country with a vaguely similar climate. The dark, gloomy forests seen in the Battle of Tribola are literally the opposite of to how Andalusian vegetation and terrain the real life place should look.

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* BrokenBase: Is this a fun yet educative dramatic show with some forgivable artistic licenses, or a disaster whose entertaining value doesn't compensate for its misinformation and over-the-top anti-Roman stance?
* CriticalDissonance: Common people often rate positively the show for its good cast, acting and sequences, while critics and history buffs tend to hate it for presenting an incredibly slanted and idealized view of the events it covers.

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* BrokenBase: Is this a fun yet educative dramatic show with some forgivable artistic licenses, or a disaster whose entertaining value doesn't compensate for its misinformation desinformation and over-the-top anti-Roman stance?
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Common people often rate positively the show for its good cast, acting and sequences, while critics and history buffs tend to hate it for presenting an incredibly slanted and idealized view of the events it covers.



** Critics have also been known to mildly praise the show in comparison with Creator/TheHistoryChannel's [[NetworkDecay recent lineups]] for [[DamnedByFaintPraise actually being a historical documentary]].

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** Critics Ironically, critics have also been known to mildly praise the show in comparison with Creator/TheHistoryChannel's [[NetworkDecay recent lineups]] for [[DamnedByFaintPraise actually being a historical documentary]].



* {{Narm}}: Jesse Jackson as a guest in an ancient history show.
* NarmCharm: The show is unapologetically partial in its celebration of Rome's enemies, often even twisting historical facts in order to build an anti-Roman narrative, but its sheer enthusiasm is infectious and its cast makes it quite watchable in general.

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Jesse Jackson as a guest in an ancient history show.
show is not enough to kill all its seriousness, his loony claims that Carthage (historically, a Semitic colony in a Berber land) was somehow a bulwark of world black culture (whatever that is) just sell it. Good thing the documentary was released two years before ''Film/BlackPanther'', as it is unlikely the producers had resisted the temptation to claim that Carthage was the real life version of Wakanda.
** For a Spanish or Portuguese viewer, the scenes set in ancient Hispania can be hilarious to watch for how obviously they are ''not'' shot in the Iberian Peninsula or any other nearby land. The dark, gloomy forests seen in the Battle of Tribola are literally the opposite of how Andalusian vegetation and terrain should look.
* NarmCharm: The show is unapologetically partial in its celebration of Rome's enemies, often even twisting historical facts facts and even making stuff up in order to build an anti-Roman narrative, but its sheer enthusiasm is infectious and its cast makes it quite watchable in general.
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* {{Narm}}: Jesse Jackson as a guest in a ancient history show.
* NarmCharm: The show is unapologetically partial in ts celebration of Rome's enemies, often even twisting historical facts in order to build an anti-Roman narrative, but its sheer enthusiasm is infectious and its cast makes it quite watchable in general.

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* {{Narm}}: Jesse Jackson as a guest in a an ancient history show.
* NarmCharm: The show is unapologetically partial in ts its celebration of Rome's enemies, often even twisting historical facts in order to build an anti-Roman narrative, but its sheer enthusiasm is infectious and its cast makes it quite watchable in general.
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** Critics have also been known to mildly praise the show in comparison with Creator/TheHistoryChannel's [[NetworkDecay recent lineups]] for [[DamnedByFaintPraise actually being a historical documentary]].

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* BrokenBase: Is this a fun yet educative dramatic show with some forgivable artistic licenses, or a disaster whose entertaining value doesn't compensate for its misinformation and over-the-top anti-Roman stance?
* CriticalDissonance: Common people often rate positively the show for its good cast, acting and sequences, while critics and history buffs tend to hate it for presenting an incredibly slanted and idealized view of the events it covers.
-->'''IMDB reviewer:''' "Please, do not call this history. This is just a epic-romantic fictional drama. The fight of good against evil. An idealistic quest for freedom... Nothing to do with real history. Not only they get all the facts mixed up, when not entirely wrong, the worst is the "analysis" by the "experts". They really sound like 7-year-olds talking about the last Disney cartoon. They do not understand the politics at all, how an empire is built. I gave it 6 for the effort and, because as a work of fiction, it deserves some recognition."



* NarmCharm: The show is unapologetically partial in ts celebration of Rome's enemies, often even twisting historical facts in order to build an anti-Roman narrative, but its sheer enthusiasm is infectious and some of its cast makes it quite watchable in general.

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* {{Narm}}: Jesse Jackson as a guest in a ancient history show.
* NarmCharm: The show is unapologetically partial in ts celebration of Rome's enemies, often even twisting historical facts in order to build an anti-Roman narrative, but its sheer enthusiasm is infectious and some of its cast makes it quite watchable in general.
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* NarmCharm: The show is unapologetically partial in his celebration of Rome's enemies, often even twisting historical facts in order to build an anti-Roman narrative, but its sheer enthusiasm is infectious and some of its cast makes it quite watchable in general.

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* NarmCharm: The show is unapologetically partial in his ts celebration of Rome's enemies, often even twisting historical facts in order to build an anti-Roman narrative, but its sheer enthusiasm is infectious and some of its cast makes it quite watchable in general.
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* NarmCharm: The show is unapologetically partial in his celebration of Rome's enemies, often even twisting historical facts in order to build an anti-Roman narrative, but its sheer enthusiasm is infectious and some of its cast makes it quite watchable in general.
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* MagnificentBastard: Geiseric is portrayed as a smooth but brutal man who brilliantly plays the Roman court against each other ''and'' Attila the Hun. Even Aetius' unexpected victory at the Catalaunian Plains ultimately works in his favor, as he himself notes, given Emperor Valentinian's incompetence and paranoia.
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