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* AssPull: TheStinger -- a League of Assassins member spying on Thea and Roy and reporting to her "master" that she has found the heir of Ra's Al-Ghul -- comes completely out of nowhere and isn't connected to the rest of the episode at all.
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* ShockingSwerve: TheStinger -- a League of Assassins member spying on Thea and Roy and reporting to her "master" that she has found the heir of Ra's Al-Ghul -- comes completely out of nowhere and isn't connected to the rest of the episode at all.
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* InternetBackdraft: Even though it really wasn't surprising, those fans hoping for Black Siren's redemption were disappointed that she likely opted to work for Diaz instead of against him.
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Alright, seriously, this is getting silly. The debate over Black Siren IS a long term and sustained confict. This episodes just contributed a little to that.
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* BrokenBase: Black Siren being revealed as (apparently) TheMole for Diaz, mainly for fans who wants her to be redeemed. There are those who are disappointed since it appears to be just a HopeSpot now, while there are those who wants her CharacterDevelopment to be gradual since an overnight HeelFaceTurn would make it look rushed and cheap. Then there are those content with it because they think redeeming her in the first place would be [[EvilIsCool the wrong thing to do]].
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As stated on the main page, Broken Base is about long term and sustained conficts. It's too early too call now.
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* BrokenBase: Black Siren being revealed as (apparently) TheMole for Diaz, mainly for fans who wants her to be redeemed. There are those who are disappointed since it appears to be just a HopeSpot now, while there are those who wants her CharacterDevelopment to be gradual since an overnight HeelFaceTurn would make it look rushed and cheap. Then there are those content with it because they think redeeming her in the first place would be [[EvilIsCool the wrong thing to do]].
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Black Siren being revealed as (apparently) TheMole for Diaz, mainly for fans who wants her to be redeemed. There are those who are disappointed since it appears to be just a HopeSpot now, while there are those who wants her CharacterDevelopment to be gradual since an overnight HeelFaceTurn would make it look rushed and cheap. Then there are those content with it because they think redeeming her in the first place would be [[EvilIsCool the wrong]] [[BadassDecay thing to do]].
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Downplayed. While fans still aren't on Dinah's side, many agree that having her work with Quentin and showing visible regret is the step in the right direction.
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* InternetBackdraft: Even though it really wasn't surprising, those fans hoping for Black Siren's redemption were disappointed that she lekiely opted to work for Diaz instead of against him.
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* InternetBackdraft: Even though it really wasn't surprising, those fans hoping for Black Siren's redemption were disappointed that she lekiely likely opted to work for Diaz instead of against him.
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Broken Base was actually what I put it as at first, but apparently, "it's too early and requires a long and sustained conflict" to be counted as such despite being true. With that, I'll just put it back as Love It Or Hate It.
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* InternetBackdraft: Even though it really wasn't surprising, those fans hoping for Black Siren's redemption were disappointed that she opted to work for Diaz instead of against him.
* ShockingSwerve: TheStinger -- a League of Assassins member spying on Thea and Roy and reporting to her "master" that she has found the heir of Ra's al Ghul -- comes completely out of nowhere and isn't connected to the rest of the episode at all.
* InternetBackdraft: Even though it really wasn't surprising, those fans hoping for Black Siren's redemption were disappointed that she opted to work for Diaz instead of against him.
* ShockingSwerve: TheStinger -- a League of Assassins member spying on Thea and Roy and reporting to her "master" that she has found the heir of Ra's al Ghul -- comes completely out of nowhere and isn't connected to the rest of the episode at all.
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* BrokenBase: InternetBackdraft: Even though it really wasn't surprising, those fans hoping for Black Siren's redemption were disappointed that she lekiely opted to work for Diaz instead of against him.
* LoveItOrHateIt: Black Siren being revealed as (apparently) TheMole for Diaz, mainly for fans who wants her to be redeemed. There are those who are disappointed since it appears to be just a HopeSpot now, while there are those who wants her CharacterDevelopment to be gradual since an overnight HeelFaceTurn would make it look rushed and cheap. Then there are those content with it because they think redeeming her in the first place would be [[EvilIsCool thewrong wrong]] [[BadassDecay thing to do.
* InternetBackdraft: Even though it really wasn't surprising, those fans hoping for Black Siren's redemption were disappointed that she opted to work for Diaz instead of against him.
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* ShockingSwerve: TheStinger -- a League of Assassins member spying on Thea and Roy and reporting to her "master" that she has found the heir of Ra'sal Ghul Al-Ghul -- comes completely out of nowhere and isn't connected to the rest of the episode at all.
* LoveItOrHateIt: Black Siren being revealed as (apparently) TheMole for Diaz, mainly for fans who wants her to be redeemed. There are those who are disappointed since it appears to be just a HopeSpot now, while there are those who wants her CharacterDevelopment to be gradual since an overnight HeelFaceTurn would make it look rushed and cheap. Then there are those content with it because they think redeeming her in the first place would be [[EvilIsCool the
* InternetBackdraft: Even though it really wasn't surprising, those fans hoping for Black Siren's redemption were disappointed that she opted to work for Diaz instead of against him.
* ShockingSwerve: TheStinger -- a League of Assassins member spying on Thea and Roy and reporting to her "master" that she has found the heir of Ra's
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* BrokenBase: Black Siren being revealed as TheMole for Diaz, mainly for fans who wants her to be redeemed. There are those who are disappointed since it appears to be just a HopeSpot now, while there are those who wants her CharacterDevelopment to be gradual since an overnight HeelFaceTurn would make it look rushed and cheap. Then there are those content with it because they think redeeming her in the first place would be the wrong thing to do.
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Black Siren being revealed as TheMole for Diaz, mainly for fans who wants her to be redeemed. There are those who are disappointed since it appears to be just a HopeSpot now, while there are those who wants her CharacterDevelopment to be gradual since an overnight HeelFaceTurn would make it look rushed and cheap. Then there are those content with it because they think redeeming her in the first place would be the wrong thing to do.
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* InternetBackdraft: Even though it really wasn't surprising, those fans hoping for her redemption were disappointed that Black Siren opted to work for Diaz instead of against him.
* LoveItOrHateIt: Black Siren being revealed as TheMole for Diaz, mainly for fans who wants her to be redeemed. There are those who are disappointed since it appears to be just HopeSpot now, while there are those who wants her CharacterDevelopment to be gradual since an overnight HeelFaceTurn would make it look rushed and cheap.
* ShockingSwerve: The final scene, of a League of Assassin's member spying on Thea and Roy and reporting to her 'master' that she found the heir of Ra's al Ghul comes completely out of nowhere and isn't connected to the rest of the episode at all.
* LoveItOrHateIt: Black Siren being revealed as TheMole for Diaz, mainly for fans who wants her to be redeemed. There are those who are disappointed since it appears to be just HopeSpot now, while there are those who wants her CharacterDevelopment to be gradual since an overnight HeelFaceTurn would make it look rushed and cheap.
* ShockingSwerve: The final scene, of a League of Assassin's member spying on Thea and Roy and reporting to her 'master' that she found the heir of Ra's al Ghul comes completely out of nowhere and isn't connected to the rest of the episode at all.
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* InternetBackdraft: Even though it really wasn't surprising, those fans hoping for her Black Siren's redemption were disappointed that Black Siren she opted to work for Diaz instead of against him.
* LoveItOrHateIt: Black Siren being revealed as TheMole for Diaz, mainly for fans who wants her to be redeemed. There are those who are disappointed since it appears to be just a HopeSpot now, while there are those who wants her CharacterDevelopment to be gradual since an overnight HeelFaceTurn would make it look rushed and cheap.
* ShockingSwerve:The final scene, of TheStinger -- a League of Assassin's Assassins member spying on Thea and Roy and reporting to her 'master' "master" that she has found the heir of Ra's al Ghul -- comes completely out of nowhere and isn't connected to the rest of the episode at all.
* LoveItOrHateIt: Black Siren being revealed as TheMole for Diaz, mainly for fans who wants her to be redeemed. There are those who are disappointed since it appears to be just a HopeSpot now, while there are those who wants her CharacterDevelopment to be gradual since an overnight HeelFaceTurn would make it look rushed and cheap.
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This is the only other Trope I know that fits.
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Way too early. Broken Base requires a long and sustained conflict.
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* ShockingSwerve: The final scene, of a League of Assassin's member spying on Thea and Roy and reporting to her 'master' that she found the heir of Ra's al Ghul comes completely out of nowhere and isn't connected to the rest of the episode at all.
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* InternetBackdraft: Even though it really wasn't surprising, some those fans hoping for her redemption were disappointed that Black Siren opted to work for Diaz instead of against him.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: Considering how polarizing last week's episode was, this one was much better received.
* WinBackTheCrowd: Considering how polarizing last week's episode was, this one was much better received.
