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* HarsherInHindsight: The existence of the AntiMagic "Equalizers" was bad enough before Season Five introduced Starlight Glimmer and her delusions of Equality.

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The existence of the AntiMagic "Equalizers" was bad enough before Season Five introduced Starlight Glimmer and her delusions of Equality.Equality.
** Here, EXALT use XCOM gear and uniforms to carry out Terror missions. Come ''VideoGame/{{XCOM 2}}'', XCOM itself is using guerrilla tactics against the alien-controlled cities and are denounced as terrorists, accusations that ring even more clear for Commanders that aren't concerned about collateral damage.

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Not YMMV, fridge has its own page.


* AscendedFridgeHorror: Seems to be the case in in ''Fortitude Amicitia''. [[spoiler: In chapter 31 of ''Stardust'', Celestia asks why Discord doesn't "release her", clearly implying that [[BroughtDownToNormal he has sealed off some of her powers]], so that she can protect her ponies from the oncoming invasion. Discord refuses, because she would end up falling into her own [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill corrupt rendition of Order]], which would result in her [[TakenForGranite petrifying every living thing in Equestria]], complete with showing a corrupted Celestia atop a pedestal of petrified ponies and surrounded by dozens more for emphasis. In the very first chapter of ''Fortitude Amicitia'', reference is made to discovering prison-vaults filled with tens of ''thousands'' of petrified ponies, petrified for the most minor of crimes by a "Queen Solaria". Upon the discovery, Celestia immediately cancelled the expedition and arranged for the professors to forget about it in exchange for comfortable jobs. The reason why? "Past sins should stay buried and forgotten", as she puts it. So, the implication is pretty clear that Discord sealed Celestia's power and won't unseal it because she has ''been'' an Order-mad tyrant in the past when she had full access to it.]]



* FridgeBrilliance:
** The supplemental info often mentions how there have been a mysterious string of disappearances where people with backgrounds in the military, science and engineering just vanish from their homes with no sign of struggle. They aren't being abducted by aliens, they're being recruited by [=XCOM=] and agreeing to the absolute secrecy requirements.
** In ''Mente Materia'' it seems that the worst political pundit in the world managed to get the opportunity to confront XCOM for their unsanctioned military actions and covert alliance with an alien race. Considering the influence of the Council, that is implied to include at least the Vice-President of the United States, it's possible that they deliberately allowed the leak to reach Senator Coleman specifically, so that he would make any opposition of the XCOM project a joke in the eyes of the general public when it inevitably became public knowledge -- someone more competent could have presented rational and crushing arguments against the organisation's existence in its current form and seriously hindered their current operation model.
* FridgeHorror: After TheReveal in chapter 28, one has to wonder: just ''why'' have so few humans been able to access the Field to this point? Also, when Twilight describes the Field, she describes it as feeling like it hasn't been used in a long time... could it be that there were once more people who ''could'' use it? If so, where did they go? And why?



* IdiotBall:
** More than one fan has accused the Council of holding this after TheReveal in chapter 15, pointing reasons why it makes no sense and is even actively harmful for the Council's purposes. Perhaps not coincidentally, the next chapter shows the Council's debate over what to do with Twilight, with some members clearly against the plan, and reveals that the current "prepare a special base for more extreme measures, but leave the decision to send her there to Commander Bradford", to be the result of non-unanimous consensus.
** All of XCOM gets hit with this when a Council inspector visits to receive the latest monthly report. [[spoiler:Despite sporting iffy credentials and his presence being an unannounced break in the usual method of how XCOM reports their progress, no-one keeps watch on him as he is allowed free access to all facilities and top secret files inside the base. He quickly turns out to be an EXALT spy.]]



** Lana started becoming this for readers when she decided to take her ShipperOnDeck reasoning as an excuse to {{troll}} both Matt and Twilight, continually harrassing the former to the point she ''[[TooDumbToLive puts a doctored photo of Twilight in his locker]]'' and refusing to stop despite requests by Matt. It's gotten to the point Twilight has "muted" her twice out of sheer exasperation. [[spoiler:She gets called on it in chapter 20, with mixed results.]]

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** Lana started becoming this for readers when she decided to take her ShipperOnDeck reasoning as an excuse to {{troll}} both Matt and Twilight, continually harrassing the former to the point she ''[[TooDumbToLive puts a doctored photo of Twilight in his locker]]'' and refusing to stop despite requests by Matt. It's gotten to the point Twilight has "muted" her twice out of sheer exasperation. [[spoiler:She gets called on it in chapter 20, with mixed results.]]]]
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Word of God states that the council is made up of unknown individuals, not representatives of funding nations. Senator Goleman's political attacks are completely justified as XCOM is a glorified PMC operating as it pleases, not an official multinational force. It has been pointed out that the nature of the Council is not completely known and they may take the form of TheIlluminati, which means they not only control XCOM but the nations of the world as well. Strawman still does have a point, but not the one that he started with.
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Broken Base requires acknowledging both sides, not just ones complaints.


* BrokenBase:
** The introduction of {{magitek}} gear in chapter 26 made some readers iffy.
** Happens again in chapter 34 where [[spoiler:the ponies overzealous reaction upon discovering XCOM in Equestria when they were returning Twilight]] left a fair amount of readers in disbelief.
** ''Fortitude Amicitia'' has become this amongst the fans, many of whom disapprove of the crossover, especially since the characters from ''Fanfic/TheDuskGuardSaga'' won't even be reappearing in ''Mente Materia'' themselves.
** Some readers were annoyed by XCOM playing things so close to their chest regarding the state of things on Earth.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The existence of the AntiMagic "Equalizers" was bad enough before Season Five introduced Starlight Glimmer and her delusions of Equality.

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** [[spoiler: Lana has become this. First was the arguing over whether or not her ShipperOnDeck "joke" and/or her general antics in the name of "fun" made her TheScrappy but, since chapter 20, when her "joke" has come out and she's been given a WhatWereYouThinking chewing out, only to explode back, it's gotten worse. Some see her as sympathetic and understandable, others see her invoking a FreudianExcuse as the reason why its NeverMyFault]].
** The introduction of {{magitek}} gear in chapter 26 made some readers iffy.

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** [[spoiler: Lana has become this. [[spoiler: First was the arguing over whether or not her ShipperOnDeck "joke" and/or her general antics in the name of "fun" made her TheScrappy but, since chapter 20, when her "joke" has come out and she's been given a WhatWereYouThinking chewing out, only to explode back, it's gotten worse. Some see her as sympathetic and understandable, others see her invoking a FreudianExcuse as the reason why its NeverMyFault]].
** The introduction of {{magitek}} gear in chapter 26 made some readers iffy.
NeverMyFault]].



** Happens again in chapter 34 where [[spoiler:the ponies overzealous reaction upon discovering X-Com in Equestria when they were returning Twilight]] left a fair amount of readers in disbelief.

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* BrokenBase:
** The introduction of {{magitek}} gear in chapter 26 made some readers iffy.
** Happens again in chapter 34 where [[spoiler:the ponies overzealous reaction upon discovering X-Com XCOM in Equestria when they were returning Twilight]] left a fair amount of readers in disbelief.



** Some readers were annoyed by XCOM playing things so close to their chest regarding the state of things on Earth.



** In ''Mente Materia'' it seems that the worst political pundit in the world managed to get the opportunity to confront X-Com for their unsanctioned military actions and covert alliance with an alien race. Considering the influence of the Council, that is implied to include at least the Vice-President of the United States, it's possible that they deliberately allowed the leak to reach Senator Coleman specifically, so that he would make any opposition of the X-Com project a joke in the eyes of the general public when it inevitably became public knowledge -- someone more competent could have presented rational and crushing arguments against the organisation's existence in its current form and seriously hindered their current operation model.

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** In ''Mente Materia'' it seems that the worst political pundit in the world managed to get the opportunity to confront X-Com XCOM for their unsanctioned military actions and covert alliance with an alien race. Considering the influence of the Council, that is implied to include at least the Vice-President of the United States, it's possible that they deliberately allowed the leak to reach Senator Coleman specifically, so that he would make any opposition of the X-Com XCOM project a joke in the eyes of the general public when it inevitably became public knowledge -- someone more competent could have presented rational and crushing arguments against the organisation's existence in its current form and seriously hindered their current operation model.



** All of X-Com gets hit with this when a Council inspector visits to receive the latest monthly report. [[spoiler:Despite sporting iffy credentials and his presence being an unannounced break in the usual method of how X-Com reports their progress, no-one keeps watch on him as he is allowed free access to all facilities and top secret files inside the base. He quickly turns out to be an EXALT spy.]]

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** All of X-Com XCOM gets hit with this when a Council inspector visits to receive the latest monthly report. [[spoiler:Despite sporting iffy credentials and his presence being an unannounced break in the usual method of how X-Com XCOM reports their progress, no-one keeps watch on him as he is allowed free access to all facilities and top secret files inside the base. He quickly turns out to be an EXALT spy.]]
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: An alien monster attacks Spike and the Cutie Mark Crusaders in their Ponyville classroom.

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* FridgeBrilliance: The supplemental info often mentions how there have been a mysterious string of disappearances where people with backgrounds in the military, science and engineering just vanish from their homes with no sign of struggle. They aren't being abducted by aliens, they're being recruited by [=XCOM=] and agreeing to the absolute secrecy requirements.

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* FridgeBrilliance: The FridgeBrilliance:
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supplemental info often mentions how there have been a mysterious string of disappearances where people with backgrounds in the military, science and engineering just vanish from their homes with no sign of struggle. They aren't being abducted by aliens, they're being recruited by [=XCOM=] and agreeing to the absolute secrecy requirements.
** In ''Mente Materia'' it seems that the worst political pundit in the world managed to get the opportunity to confront X-Com for their unsanctioned military actions and covert alliance with an alien race. Considering the influence of the Council, that is implied to include at least the Vice-President of the United States, it's possible that they deliberately allowed the leak to reach Senator Coleman specifically, so that he would make any opposition of the X-Com project a joke in the eyes of the general public when it inevitably became public knowledge -- someone more competent could have presented rational and crushing arguments against the organisation's existence in its current form and seriously hindered their current operation model.
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* NightmareFuel: A number of InUniverse examples.
** Twilight's first encounter with the Invaders: a Chryssalid massacring three people in front of her, then attacking her.
*** Twilight's response to it, crushing it into a pulp (they literally had to vacuum pump it out of the crater) with her telekinesis, is also this. InUniverse, even for Twilight herself.
** Twilight waking up in the X-Com containment unit, about to be [[MindRape "interrogated"]].
** Twilight's own nightmare where she repeats her killing of the Chryssalid, only it turns into Spike, plaintively asking why she's killed him.
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** ''Fortitude Amicitia'' has become this amongst the fans, many of whom disapprove of the crossover, especially since the characters from ''Fanfic/TheDuskGuardSaga'' won't even be reappearing in ''Mente Materia'' themselves.
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* AscendedFridgeHorror: Seems to be the case in in ''Fortitude Amicitia''. [[spoiler: In chapter 31 of ''Stardust'', Celestia asks why Discord doesn't "release her", clearly implying that [[BroughtDownToNormal he has sealed off some of her powers]], so that she can protect her ponies from the oncoming invasion. Discord refuses, because she would end up falling into her own [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill corrupt rendition of Order]], which would result in her [[TakenForGranite petrifying every living thing in Equestria]], complete with showing a corrupted Celestia atop a pedestal of petrified ponies and surrounded by dozens more for emphasis. In the very first chapter of ''Fortitude Amicitia'', reference is made to discovering prison-vaults filled with tens of ''thousands'' of petrified ponies, petrified for the most minor of crimes by a "Queen Solaria". Upon the discovery, Celestia immediately cancelled the expedition and arranged for the professors to forget about it in exchange for comfortable jobs. The reason why? "Past sins should stay buried and forgotten", as she puts it. So, the implication is pretty clear that Discord sealed Celestia's power and won't unseal it because she has ''been'' an Order-mad tyrant in the past when she had full access to it.]]
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* [[spoiler: RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Vahlen may be on the path to this after the events of chapter 17, with hints of her reasonings for being so antagonistic towards Twilight being confirmed from chapter 15.]]

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* [[spoiler: RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: [[spoiler: Vahlen may be on the path to this after the events of chapter 17, with hints of her reasonings for being so antagonistic towards Twilight being confirmed from chapter 15.]]
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** Happens again in chapter 34 where [[spoiler:the ponies overzealous reaction upon discovering X-Com in Equestria when they were returning Twilight]] left a fair amount of readers in disbelief.
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** Some readers were also displeased by [[spoiler:Twilight's UnstoppableRage and the subsequent CurbStompBattle she issued]] in chapter 33, thinking her overpowered and rendering XCOM worthless. Other readers stepped in with counterarguments and reasons why the feat fell within previously established ballparks.

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** Some readers were also displeased by [[spoiler:Twilight's UnstoppableRage and the subsequent CurbStompBattle she issued]] in chapter 33, thinking her overpowered and rendering XCOM the others worthless. Other readers stepped in with counterarguments and reasons why the feat fell within previously established ballparks.
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** Some readers were also displeased by [[spoiler:Twilight's UnstoppableRage and the subsequent CurbStompBattle she issued]] in chapter 33.

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** Some readers were also displeased by [[spoiler:Twilight's UnstoppableRage and the subsequent CurbStompBattle she issued]] in chapter 33.33, thinking her overpowered and rendering XCOM worthless. Other readers stepped in with counterarguments and reasons why the feat fell within previously established ballparks.
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** Some readers were also displeased by [[spoiler:Twilight's UnstoppableRage]] in chapter 33.

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** Some readers were also displeased by [[spoiler:Twilight's UnstoppableRage]] UnstoppableRage and the subsequent CurbStompBattle she issued]] in chapter 33.

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* IdiotBall: More than one fan has accused the Council of holding this after TheReveal in chapter 15, pointing reasons why it makes no sense and is even actively harmful for the Council's purposes. Perhaps not coincidentally, the next chapter shows the Council's debate over what to do with Twilight, with some members clearly against the plan, and reveals that the current "prepare a special base for more extreme measures, but leave the decision to send her there to Commander Bradford", to be the result of non-unanimous consensus.

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* IdiotBall: IdiotBall:
**
More than one fan has accused the Council of holding this after TheReveal in chapter 15, pointing reasons why it makes no sense and is even actively harmful for the Council's purposes. Perhaps not coincidentally, the next chapter shows the Council's debate over what to do with Twilight, with some members clearly against the plan, and reveals that the current "prepare a special base for more extreme measures, but leave the decision to send her there to Commander Bradford", to be the result of non-unanimous consensus.consensus.
** All of X-Com gets hit with this when a Council inspector visits to receive the latest monthly report. [[spoiler:Despite sporting iffy credentials and his presence being an unannounced break in the usual method of how X-Com reports their progress, no-one keeps watch on him as he is allowed free access to all facilities and top secret files inside the base. He quickly turns out to be an EXALT spy.]]

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* BaseBreaker: [[spoiler: Lana has become this. First was the arguing over whether or not her ShipperOnDeck "joke" and/or her general antics in the name of "fun" made her TheScrappy but, since chapter 20, when her "joke" has come out and she's been given a WhatWereYouThinking chewing out, only to explode back, it's gotten worse. Some see her as sympathetic and understandable, others see her invoking a FreudianExcuse as the reason why its NeverMyFault]].

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreaker:
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[[spoiler: Lana has become this. First was the arguing over whether or not her ShipperOnDeck "joke" and/or her general antics in the name of "fun" made her TheScrappy but, since chapter 20, when her "joke" has come out and she's been given a WhatWereYouThinking chewing out, only to explode back, it's gotten worse. Some see her as sympathetic and understandable, others see her invoking a FreudianExcuse as the reason why its NeverMyFault]].NeverMyFault]].
** The introduction of {{magitek}} gear in chapter 26 made some readers iffy.
** Some readers were also displeased by [[spoiler:Twilight's UnstoppableRage]] in chapter 33.
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* FridgeBrilliance: The supplemental info often mentions how there have been a mysterious string of disappearances where people with backgrounds in science and engineering just vanish with no sign of struggle. They aren't being abducted by aliens, they're being recruited by [=XCOM=] and agreeing to the absolute secrecy requirements.

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* FridgeBrilliance: The supplemental info often mentions how there have been a mysterious string of disappearances where people with backgrounds in the military, science and engineering just vanish from their homes with no sign of struggle. They aren't being abducted by aliens, they're being recruited by [=XCOM=] and agreeing to the absolute secrecy requirements.

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* FridgeHorror: After TheReveal in chapter 28, one has to wonder: just ''why'' have so few humans been able to access the Field to this point? Also, when Twilight describes the Field, she describes it as feeling like it hasn't been used in a long time... could it be that there were once more people who ''could'' use it? If so, where did they go? And why?



* NightmareFuel:

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* NightmareFuel:NightmareFuel: A number of InUniverse examples.
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* RuinedForever: Some readers are becoming iffy about the introduction of magitech starting in chapter 26.
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* RuinedForever: Some readers are becoming iffy about the introduction of magitech starting in chapter 26.
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* IdiotBall: More than one fan has accused the Council of holding this after TheReveal in chapter 15, pointing reasons why it makes no sense and is even actively harmful for the Council's purposes. Perhaps not coincidentally, the next chapter shows the Council's debate over what to do with Twilight, with some members clearly against the plan, and reveals that the current "prepare a special base for more extreme measures, but leave the decision to send her there to Commander Bradford", to be the result of consensus.

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* IdiotBall: More than one fan has accused the Council of holding this after TheReveal in chapter 15, pointing reasons why it makes no sense and is even actively harmful for the Council's purposes. Perhaps not coincidentally, the next chapter shows the Council's debate over what to do with Twilight, with some members clearly against the plan, and reveals that the current "prepare a special base for more extreme measures, but leave the decision to send her there to Commander Bradford", to be the result of non-unanimous consensus.
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* IdiotBall: More than one fan has accused the Council of holding this after TheReveal in chapter 15, pointing reasons why it makes no sense and is even actively harmful for the Council's purposes. Perhaps not coincidentally, the next chapter shows the Council's debate over what to do with Twilight and reveals that the current "prepare a special base for more extreme measures, but leave the decision to send her there to Commander Bradford", to be the result of consensus.

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* IdiotBall: More than one fan has accused the Council of holding this after TheReveal in chapter 15, pointing reasons why it makes no sense and is even actively harmful for the Council's purposes. Perhaps not coincidentally, the next chapter shows the Council's debate over what to do with Twilight Twilight, with some members clearly against the plan, and reveals that the current "prepare a special base for more extreme measures, but leave the decision to send her there to Commander Bradford", to be the result of consensus.
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* BaseBreaker: [[spoiler: Lana has become this. First was the arguing over whether or not her ShipperOnDeck "joke" and/or her general antics in the name of "fun" made her TheScrappy but, since chapter 20, when her "joke" has come out and she's been given a WhatWereYouThinking chewing out, only to explode back, it's gotten worse. Some see her as sympathetic and understandable, others see her invoking a FreudianExcuse as the reason why its NeverMyFault]].
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** Lana started becoming this for readers when she decided to take her ShipperOnDeck reasoning as an excuse to {{troll}} both Matt and Twilight, continually harrassing the former to the point she ''[[TooDumbToLive puts a doctored photo of Twilight in his locker]]'' and refusing to stop despite requests by Matt. It's gotten to the point Twilight has "muted" her twice out of sheer exasperation.

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** Lana started becoming this for readers when she decided to take her ShipperOnDeck reasoning as an excuse to {{troll}} both Matt and Twilight, continually harrassing the former to the point she ''[[TooDumbToLive puts a doctored photo of Twilight in his locker]]'' and refusing to stop despite requests by Matt. It's gotten to the point Twilight has "muted" her twice out of sheer exasperation. [[spoiler:She gets called on it in chapter 20, with mixed results.]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: The supplemental info often mentions how there have been a mysterious string of disappearances where people with backgrounds in science and engineering just vanish with no sign of struggle. They aren't being abducted by aliens, they're being recruited by [=XCOM=] and agreeing to the absolute secrecy requirements.
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* [[spoiler: RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Vahlen may be on the path to this after the events of chapter 17, with hints of her reasonings for being so antagonistic towards Twilight being confirmed from chapter 15.]]

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* IdiotBall: More than one fan has accused the Council of holding this after TheReveal in chapter 15, pointing reasons why it makes no sense and is even actively harmful for the Council's purposes.

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* IdiotBall: More than one fan has accused the Council of holding this after TheReveal in chapter 15, pointing reasons why it makes no sense and is even actively harmful for the Council's purposes. Perhaps not coincidentally, the next chapter shows the Council's debate over what to do with Twilight and reveals that the current "prepare a special base for more extreme measures, but leave the decision to send her there to Commander Bradford", to be the result of consensus.



** Twilight's own nightmare where she repeats her killing of the Chryssalid, only it turns into Spike, plaintively asking why she's killed him.

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** Twilight's own nightmare where she repeats her killing of the Chryssalid, only it turns into Spike, plaintively asking why she's killed him.him.
* TheScrappy:
** Dr. Vahlen, for most of the readers, due to her antagonistic approach to Twilight.
** Lana started becoming this for readers when she decided to take her ShipperOnDeck reasoning as an excuse to {{troll}} both Matt and Twilight, continually harrassing the former to the point she ''[[TooDumbToLive puts a doctored photo of Twilight in his locker]]'' and refusing to stop despite requests by Matt. It's gotten to the point Twilight has "muted" her twice out of sheer exasperation.
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* IdiotBall: More than one fan has accused the Council of holding this after TheReveal in chapter 15, pointing reasons why it makes no sense and is even actively harmful for the Council's purposes.
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* NightmareFuel:
** Twilight's first encounter with the Invaders: a Chryssalid massacring three people in front of her, then attacking her.
*** Twilight's response to it, crushing it into a pulp (they literally had to vacuum pump it out of the crater) with her telekinesis, is also this. InUniverse, even for Twilight herself.
** Twilight waking up in the X-Com containment unit, about to be [[MindRape "interrogated"]].
** Twilight's own nightmare where she repeats her killing of the Chryssalid, only it turns into Spike, plaintively asking why she's killed him.

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