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* Complete Monster: [[spoiler:Kristoph Gavin]] is introduced as a supposedly helpful mentor. He is also the first man responsible for ushering in “The Dark Age Of The Law” by getting Phoenix Wright disbarred. [[spoiler:Kristoph]] ended up taking a massive blow to his ego when a magician and prospective client, Zak, rejected [[spoiler:Kristoph]] as his lawyer. When Zak hired Phoenix instead of him due to a poker game, a furious [[spoiler:Kristoph]] decided to get revenge. He had gotten a shy artist named Vera to unknowingly create fake evidence for the trial, but after Phoenix was hired, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] used the evidence to get him disbarred. [[spoiler:Kristoph]] also manipulated his own brother, [[spoiler: prosecutor Klavier]], by using him to disbar Phoenix and cheating the honorable [[spoiler:Klavier]] out of a fair trial, which haunted [[spoiler:Klavier]], who knew something wasn't right. for years. When Zak resurfaced under a new identity years later, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] took the chance to murder him and frame Phoenix. After this, it was revealed [[spoiler:Kristoph]] had poisoned Vera and her father Drew, intending both to die. Vera survived, barely. To pour salt on the wound, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] gloated how Apollo and Phoenix had triggered his plan-their questioning caused Vera to bite her nails- when he had planted the poison as nail polish, knowing her nervous habit. He had even started poisoning her when she was only twelve. After her survival, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] simply enjoyed seeing Vera face conviction for her own father's murder. In the end, he was little but a cruel, petty, selfish man obsessed with glory and destroying those who stood in his way.

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* Complete Monster: CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:Kristoph Gavin]] is introduced as a supposedly helpful mentor. He is also the first man responsible for ushering in “The Dark Age Of The Law” by getting Phoenix Wright disbarred. [[spoiler:Kristoph]] ended up taking a massive blow to his ego when a magician and prospective client, Zak, rejected [[spoiler:Kristoph]] as his lawyer. When Zak hired Phoenix instead of him due to a poker game, a furious [[spoiler:Kristoph]] decided to get revenge. He had gotten a shy artist named Vera to unknowingly create fake evidence for the trial, but after Phoenix was hired, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] used the evidence to get him disbarred. [[spoiler:Kristoph]] also manipulated his own brother, [[spoiler: prosecutor Klavier]], by using him to disbar Phoenix and cheating the honorable [[spoiler:Klavier]] out of a fair trial, which haunted [[spoiler:Klavier]], who knew something wasn't right. for years. When Zak resurfaced under a new identity years later, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] took the chance to murder him and frame Phoenix. After this, it was revealed [[spoiler:Kristoph]] had poisoned Vera and her father Drew, intending both to die. Vera survived, barely. To pour salt on the wound, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] gloated how Apollo and Phoenix had triggered his plan-their questioning caused Vera to bite her nails- when he had planted the poison as nail polish, knowing her nervous habit. He had even started poisoning her when she was only twelve. After her survival, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] simply enjoyed seeing Vera face conviction for her own father's murder. In the end, he was little but a cruel, petty, selfish man obsessed with glory and destroying those who stood in his way.
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* Complete Monster: [[spoiler:Kristoph Gavin]] is introduced as a supposedly helpful mentor. He is also the first man responsible for ushering in “The Dark Age Of The Law” by getting Phoenix Wright disbarred. [[spoiler:Kristoph]] ended up taking a massive blow to his ego when a magician and prospective client, Zak, rejected [[spoiler:Kristoph]] as his lawyer. When Zak hired Phoenix instead of him due to a poker game, a furious [[spoiler:Kristoph]] decided to get revenge. He had gotten a shy artist named Vera to unknowingly create fake evidence for the trial, but after Phoenix was hired, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] used the evidence to get him disbarred. [[spoiler:Kristoph]] also manipulated his own brother, [[spoiler: prosecutor Klavier]], by using him to disbar Phoenix and cheating the honorable [[spoiler:Klavier]] out of a fair trial, which haunted [[spoiler:Klavier]], who knew something wasn't right. for years. When Zak resurfaced under a new identity years later, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] took the chance to murder him and frame Phoenix. After this, it was revealed [[spoiler:Kristoph]] had poisoned Vera and her father Drew, intending both to die. Vera survived, barely. To pour salt on the wound, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] gloated how Apollo and Phoenix had triggered his plan-their questioning caused Vera to bite her nails- when he had planted the poison as nail polish, knowing her nervous habit. He had even started poisoning her when she was only twelve. After her survival, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] simply enjoyed seeing Vera face conviction for her own father's murder. In the end, he was little but a cruel, petty, selfish man obsessed with glory and destroying those who stood in his way.
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* IncestYayShipping: It would count as SurpriseIncest, but some people ship [[spoiler: Apollo and Trucy]], who are half-siblings.
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** Klavier. Poor guy has to prosecute [[spoiler:his bandmate and later ''his own brother''.]]

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:Kristoph Gavin]]. The game itself hints at the fact that he's much more than the series' average SmugSnake. Expect double portion of horror when in the last case, [[spoiler:you use Apollo's ability to see the reactions of Kristoph's body to his own lies. Pay attention to what lies beyond his glasses, and then scroll down to the back of his hand. * Shudder* ]].

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* DesignatedVillain: The only reason you go up against Klavier is because he's the prosecutor.

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* DesignatedVillain: The only reason you go up against Klavier is because he's the prosecutor. Personally, he's pretty much a really nice guy, barring his insults in the courtroom. And calling Apollo "Herr Forehead".
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Take general series tropes to YMMV/AceAttorney, and take tropes specific to [[YMMV/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney the Phoenix arc]], or ''[[YMMV/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Investigations]]'' to those pages, please.

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Take general series tropes to YMMV/AceAttorney, and take tropes specific to [[YMMV/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney the Phoenix arc]], or ''[[YMMV/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Investigations]]'' Investigations]]'', or ''[[YMMV/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'' to those pages, please.
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** With the announcement of Phoenix Wright - Dual Destinies, Capcom themselves seem to have decided to TakeAThirdOption, with promotional material showing both in the court room.
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* ViewersAreGoldfish: This is true of all the ''Ace Attorney'' games, but ''Apollo Justice'' was especially {{Egregious}} about it.
** You can't exit case 2-3 without knowing all the lyrics to the song. If you found it NarmCharm the first time, wait until the eighth iteration.

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* MemeticSexGod: Klavier Gavin was the former Page Image.

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* MemeticMolester: Kristoph.
* MemeticSexGod: Klavier Gavin was the former Page Image. HilariousInHindsight when compared to the above.

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** It's also possible to TakeAThirdOption and enjoy both characters but dislike the time skip and related case. Considering that the Phoenix arc ended on an EarnYourHappyEnding moment, ''Apollo Justice'' opens with information that's something of a moodkiller, to put it mildly. It's hard to tell whether people hate Apollo himself, the re-characterized Phoenix, or what the ''Apollo Justice'' game itself does to the timeline (which goes way beyond FanonDiscontinuity territory).



* ReplacementScrappy: Apollo, to some.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Apollo, to some. Trucy mixes this with StopHelpingMe tendencies ("Take that memory, bury it deep down inside you, and never speak of it again"), but your mileage will vary on how long the trope fits.



** You can't exit case 2-3 without knowing all the lyrics to the song. If you found it NarmCharm the first time, wait until the eighth iteration.




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*** He does start to cry at the very end, then abruptly returns to his "gangster" persona before exiting at top speed. It's implied he understands what his father has done for him and that the family will be okay.
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** And don't forget the [[spoiler:black Psyche-Locks]] that Phoenix encounters. We never find out what they mean, although they likely conceal the truth about his forging and murders, and signify how unshakable a character he is.
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** And with the confirmation that it will be Phoenix-centric, fans continue to disagree but are being even more verbal about it.

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** And don't forget the [[spoiler:black Psyche-Locks]] that Phoenix encounters. We never did find out what that was all about. Maybe in [=GS5=]...
*** The truth about his forging and murders was the secret. They were just black becuase it was supposed to signify how Kristoph is the most unshakable person in the series.

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** And don't forget the [[spoiler:black Psyche-Locks]] that Phoenix encounters. We never did find out what that was all about. Maybe in [=GS5=]...
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they mean, although they likely conceal the truth about his forging and murders was the secret. They were just black becuase it was supposed to murders, and signify how Kristoph is the most unshakable person in the series.a character he is.
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* DesignatedVillain: The only reason you go up against Klavier is because he's the prosecutor.
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* {{Squick}}: Shut up about your panties! ("Panties!")

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* {{Squick}}: Shut up about your panties! ("Panties!")("Panties!") It's even in-universe {{Squick}} for Apollo.
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:Kristoph Gavin]]. The game itself hints at the fact that he's much more than the series' average SmugSnake. Expect double portion of NightmareFuel when in the last case, [[spoiler:you use Apollo's ability to see the reactions of Kristoph's body to his own lies. Pay attention to what lies beyond his glasses, and then scroll down to the back of his hand. * Shudder* ]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:Kristoph Gavin]]. The game itself hints at the fact that he's much more than the series' average SmugSnake. Expect double portion of NightmareFuel horror when in the last case, [[spoiler:you use Apollo's ability to see the reactions of Kristoph's body to his own lies. Pay attention to what lies beyond his glasses, and then scroll down to the back of his hand. * Shudder* ]].



* HighOctaneNightmareFuel:
** It's standard for the guilty one to go completely batshit crazy in fury or amazement that their plan has been ruined. However, it gets even scarier with [[spoiler:Kristoph, who slams his hand into the desk, his hair flies up as if he's going Super Saiyan, and after that's done, his hair is in a complete mess, his face looks just plain demented, and I'm pretty sure that his psycho-stare is scarier then even Damon Gant's!]] That. Is. Scary. And when you ''win'' the case, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] ''snaps''. With his hair still a complete mess, he puts a hand to his face, faces the sky, and just ''laughs''. It's clear that he's gone completely insane when faced by the turn of events. He's lost everything by your victory; seven years of planning, gone. And you don't hear ''anything''. You don't hear a sound byte of the laugh, there's no box saying "ha ha ha". No, what there is is a text-based "voice-over" describing the aftermath of the case, and how the killer... laughed, all while you watch his final breakdown in utter silence.
*** Actually, [[spoiler:Kristoph]]'s hair goes back to normal for his laughing sprite, bizarrely enough. The fact that he apparently fixed his hair just for that may or may not make it creepier.
** Do NOT perceive Spark Brushel while he's smiling widely.


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** It's standard for the guilty one to go completely batshit crazy in fury or amazement that their plan has been ruined. However, it gets even scarier with [[spoiler:Kristoph, who slams his hand into the desk, his hair flies up as if he's going Super Saiyan, and after that's done, his hair is in a complete mess, his face looks just plain demented, and I'm pretty sure that his psycho-stare is scarier then even Damon Gant's!]] That. Is. Scary. And when you ''win'' the case, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] ''snaps''. With his hair still a complete mess, he puts a hand to his face, faces the sky, and just ''laughs''. It's clear that he's gone completely insane when faced by the turn of events. He's lost everything by your victory; seven years of planning, gone. And you don't hear ''anything''. You don't hear a sound byte of the laugh, there's no box saying "ha ha ha". No, what there is is a text-based "voice-over" describing the aftermath of the case, and how the killer... laughed, all while you watch his final breakdown in utter silence.
*** Actually, [[spoiler:Kristoph]]'s hair goes back to normal for his laughing sprite, bizarrely enough. The fact that he apparently fixed his hair just for that may or may not make it creepier.
** Do NOT perceive Spark Brushel while he's smiling widely.


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** Wocky is a JerkassWoobie, undoubtedly the worst client Apollo gets. In fact he's worse than almost all of Phoenix's defendants [[UngratefulBastard because he doesn't come around by the end]]. But still, [[spoiler:almost getting himself killed and all, lied to concerning this, then realising the truth about Alita]]...

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*** Actually, [[spoiler:Kristoph]]'s hair goes back to normal for his laughing sprite, bizarrely enough. The fact that he apparently fixed his hair just for that may or may not make it creepier.



* HilariousInHindsight: the whole incident about Phoenix Wright getting hit by a car and flung into a pole and only suffered a sprained ankle. With his inclusion in ''Ultimate VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3'', he had to contend with a variety of attacks, such as {{She-Hulk}}'s Level 3 Hyper, which involves getting hit by a car (Sunday Driver, according to her), and her new attack in Ultimate swinging a pole. The best part is that the hit and run incident in the game took place on a Sunday.

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* HilariousInHindsight: the The whole incident about Phoenix Wright getting hit by a car and flung into a pole and only suffered a sprained ankle. With his inclusion in ''Ultimate VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3'', he had to contend with a variety of attacks, such as {{She-Hulk}}'s Level 3 Hyper, which involves getting hit by a car (Sunday Driver, according to her), and her new attack in Ultimate swinging a pole. The best part is that the hit and run incident in the game took place on a Sunday.


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** Possibly Trucy as well, if you take some lines from Phoenix at the end of the game into consideration.
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* HoYay: [[HoYay/AceAttorney Has a page for it.]]
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* BaseBreaker: ''The entire game''.



* CharacterDerailment: Ema. Although intentional (the developers felt they had to recharacterize Ema so she wouldn't occupy the same personality niche as Trucy), Ema [[TookALevelInJerkass Taking a Level In Jerkass]] did not go over well with all audiences. There are those who believe her jaded and somewhat grumpy demeanor is too far a cry from her bright and enthusiastic youth, even if she's not happy with how her life turned out.
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** Even worse was the fact that everyone assumed Machi was an Interpol agent based on the bloody writing. Given how many times something's been written in blood and turned out to be a false lead, you'd think everyone would pick up on that (especially since Apollo claimed he read over some of Phoenix's old case files, and Ema [[spoiler:had the same kind of thing happen to her in 1-5]].)

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** Even worse was the fact that everyone assumed Machi was an Interpol agent based on the bloody writing. Given how many times something's been written in blood and turned out to be a false lead, you'd think everyone would pick up on that (especially since Apollo claimed he that he's read over some of Phoenix's old case files, and Ema [[spoiler:had the same kind of thing happen to her in 1-5]].the SL-9 case]].)
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** Even worse was the fact that everyone assumed Machi was an Interpol agent based on the bloody writing. Given how many times something's been written in blood and turned out to be a false lead, you'd think everyone would pick up on that (especially since Apollo claimed he read over some of Phoenix's old case files, and Ema [[spoiler:had the same kind of thing happen to her in 1-5]].)
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* CharacterDerailment: Ema. Although intentional (the developers felt they had to recharacterize Ema so she wouldn't occupy the same personality niche as Trucy), Ema [[TookALevelInJerkass Taking a Level In Jerkass]] did not go over well with all audiences. There are those who believe her jaded and somewhat grumpy demeanor is too far a cry from her bright and enthusiastic youth.

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* CharacterDerailment: Ema. Although intentional (the developers felt they had to recharacterize Ema so she wouldn't occupy the same personality niche as Trucy), Ema [[TookALevelInJerkass Taking a Level In Jerkass]] did not go over well with all audiences. There are those who believe her jaded and somewhat grumpy demeanor is too far a cry from her bright and enthusiastic youth.youth, even if she's not happy with how her life turned out.
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* CharacterDerailment: Ema. Although intentional (the developers felt they had to recharacterize Ema so she wouldn't occupy the same personality niche as Trucy), Ema [[TookALevelInJerkass Taking a Level In Jerkass]] did not go over well with all audiences. There are those who believe her jaded and somewhat grumpy demeanor is too far a cry from her bright and enthusiastic youth.
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* IdiotPlot: Many people think this about case 4-3.

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* IdiotPlot: Many people think this about case 4-3.4-3, which has all the characters think it's perfectly feasible for a prepubescent boy to use an incredibly powerful revolver without injury, carry a 250lbs man across an arena, and even for the boy to be a '' secret Interpol agent''. Even Apollo doesn't dispute the feasibility of the accusations, just that Machi was the one who did it. Shu Takumi has since admitted to the flaws in the case's storyline, and revealed that he was working on the assumption that [[spoiler:Daryan was using his position in the police to manipulate the investigation and throw Machi under the bus for his own crimes]], but forgot to make this clear in the dialogue.
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** Vera. Dear god, Vera.
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* SpotlightStealingSquad: Phoenix Wright, to the point where some fans refer to this game as Phoenix Wright: The After Years
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Take general series tropes to YMMV/AceAttorney, and take tropes specific to [[YMMV/{{ptitlesv1ek77e}} the Phoenix arc]], or ''[[YMMV/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Investigations]]'' to those pages, please.

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Take general series tropes to YMMV/AceAttorney, and take tropes specific to [[YMMV/{{ptitlesv1ek77e}} [[YMMV/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney the Phoenix arc]], or ''[[YMMV/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Investigations]]'' to those pages, please.

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