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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Anna and Elsa not trying to remember their past, which was a question many fans had, is finally addressed in ''Memory and Magic'' where Elsa and Anna actually try to discover why they can't remember their past. They seek the help of the trolls to have Anna remember her memories of Elsa's magic. As StatusQuoIsGod is in place she of course doesn't regain her memories.
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* TheScrappy: Just like in the movie, the trolls continue to be this for some readers. This time a young troll that tries and fails to help Anna recover her memories, lying that he could and having Anna perform several embarrassing acts. Grand Pabbie is also nowhere to be found to help them or tell them the truth.
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* FanPreferredCouple:
** Elsa/Marisol has a pretty strong following due to their LesYay. It also helps that Marisol fits the design for many female [=OCs=] (dark skinned, brunette, and dressed in red) in the fandom.
** There are people who enjoy the interactions between Anna and Elsa due to [[IncestYayShipping shipping them]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: The Royal Dressmaker, Maren, is suspected of being Elsa's secret admirer. Come ''Disney/FrozenII'', where some fans shipped Elsa and new character ''Honey''maren.

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* HilariousInHindsight: The Royal Dressmaker, Maren, is suspected of being Elsa's secret admirer. Come ''Disney/FrozenII'', ''WesternAnimation/FrozenII'', where some fans shipped Elsa and new character ''Honey''maren.

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This doesn't seem to be an example of the trope, because it's not based on a previously controversial aspect of the franchise, but rather on a controversial crossover fan ship.


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** It is speculated by some fans that ''The Secret Admirer'' is Disney's subtle way to address the popular but controversial fan ship of Elsa with [[WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians Jack Frost]]. Fredmund, or Freddie, is underage, has skills in ice carving, loves playing games, and even has brown hair as Jack did while alive. While Elsa doesn't accept the young boy's wedding proposal for obvious reasons, she tells him at the end that he became something more special for her: a [[BetterAsFriends friend]].
** Anna and Elsa not trying to remember their past, which was a question many fans had, is finally addressed in ''Memory and Magic'' where Elsa and Anna actually try to discover why they can't remember their past. They seek the help of the trolls to have Anna remember her memories of Elsa's magic. As StatusQuoIsGod is in place she of course doesn't regain her memories.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** It is speculated by some fans that ''The Secret Admirer'' is Disney's subtle way to address the popular but controversial fan ship of Elsa with [[WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians Jack Frost]]. Fredmund, or Freddie, is underage, has skills in ice carving, loves playing games, and even has brown hair as Jack did while alive. While Elsa doesn't accept the young boy's wedding proposal for obvious reasons, she tells him at the end that he became something more special for her: a [[BetterAsFriends friend]].
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AuthorsSavingThrow: Anna and Elsa not trying to remember their past, which was a question many fans had, is finally addressed in ''Memory and Magic'' where Elsa and Anna actually try to discover why they can't remember their past. They seek the help of the trolls to have Anna remember her memories of Elsa's magic. As StatusQuoIsGod is in place she of course doesn't regain her memories.
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** It is speculated by some fans that ''The Secret Admirer'' is Disney's subtle way to address the popular but controversial fan ship of Elsa with [[WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians Jack Frost]]. Fredmund, or Freddie, is underage (even younger than 14 year old Jack), has skills in ice carving, loves playing games, and even has brown hair as Jack did while alive. While Elsa doesn't accept the boy's wedding proposal for obvious reasons, she tells him at the end that he became something more special for her: a [[BetterAsFriends friend]]. More than a few fans are happy believing this.

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** It is speculated by some fans that ''The Secret Admirer'' is Disney's subtle way to address the popular but controversial fan ship of Elsa with [[WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians Jack Frost]]. Fredmund, or Freddie, is underage (even younger than 14 year old Jack), underage, has skills in ice carving, loves playing games, and even has brown hair as Jack did while alive. While Elsa doesn't accept the young boy's wedding proposal for obvious reasons, she tells him at the end that he became something more special for her: a [[BetterAsFriends friend]]. More than a few fans are happy believing this.friend]].



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Queen Marisol appeared in one ''Literature/AnnaAndElsa'' book but has quite a few fanworks about her, mainly due to how easily shipped she can be with Elsa.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Queen Marisol appeared appears in only one ''Literature/AnnaAndElsa'' book but has quite a few fanworks about her, mainly due to how easily shipped she can be with Elsa.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The Royal Dressmaker, Maren, is suspected of being Elsa's secret admirer. Come ''Disney/FrozenII'', where some fans {{Crack Ship}}ped Elsa and new character ''Honey''maren.

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* HilariousInHindsight: The Royal Dressmaker, Maren, is suspected of being Elsa's secret admirer. Come ''Disney/FrozenII'', where some fans {{Crack Ship}}ped shipped Elsa and new character ''Honey''maren.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The Royal Dresssmaker, Maren, is suspected of being Elsa's secret admirer. Come ''Disney/FrozenII'', where some fans {{Crack Ship}}ped Elsa and new character ''Honey''maren.

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* HilariousInHindsight: The Royal Dresssmaker, Dressmaker, Maren, is suspected of being Elsa's secret admirer. Come ''Disney/FrozenII'', where some fans {{Crack Ship}}ped Elsa and new character ''Honey''maren.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The Royal Dresssmaker, Maren, is suspected of being Elsa's secret admirer. Come ''Disney/FrozenII'', where some fans {{Crack Ship}}ped Elsa and new character ''Honey''maren.
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The trope for this is Schrodingers Canon.


* BrokenBase: Like ''A Frozen Heart'', fans are in dispute whether the books are actually in canon with the movies. However the shorts themselves don't contradict or address the events of the books.
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There was also a dispute over where or not A Frozen Heart was also meant to be in canon with the films.


* BrokenBase: Fans are in dispute whether the books are actually in canon with the movie. However the shorts themselves don't contradict or address the events of the books.

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* BrokenBase: Fans Like ''A Frozen Heart'', fans are in dispute whether the books are actually in canon with the movie.movies. However the shorts themselves don't contradict or address the events of the books.
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** Olaf for making the sisters believe there was a kingdom of magic similar to Elsa's all because of a rumor. On the brightside it did let them to Marisol.
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* TheScrappy: Just like in the movie the Trolls continue to be this for some readers. This time a young Troll that tries and fails to help Anna recover her memories, not helping is him lying that he could and have Anna perform several embarrassing acts. Grand Pabbie is also nowhere to be found to help them or tell them the truth.
** Olaf for making the sisters believe there was a kingom of magic similar to Elsa's all because of a rumor. On the brightside it did let them to Marisol.

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* TheScrappy: Just like in the movie movie, the Trolls trolls continue to be this for some readers. This time a young Troll troll that tries and fails to help Anna recover her memories, not helping is him lying that he could and have having Anna perform several embarrassing acts. Grand Pabbie is also nowhere to be found to help them or tell them the truth.
** Olaf for making the sisters believe there was a kingom kingdom of magic similar to Elsa's all because of a rumor. On the brightside it did let them to Marisol.

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* TheScrappy: Just like in the movie the Trolls continue to be this for some readers. This time is young Troll that tries and fails to help Anna recover her memories. Grand Pabbie is also nowhere to be found to help them or tell them the truth.

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* TheScrappy: Just like in the movie the Trolls continue to be this for some readers. This time is a young Troll that tries and fails to help Anna recover her memories. memories, not helping is him lying that he could and have Anna perform several embarrassing acts. Grand Pabbie is also nowhere to be found to help them or tell them the truth.truth.
** Olaf for making the sisters believe there was a kingom of magic similar to Elsa's all because of a rumor. On the brightside it did let them to Marisol.
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* TheScrappy: Just like in the movie the Trolls continue to be this for some readers. This time is young Troll that tries and fails to help Anna recover her memories. Grand Pabbie is also nowhere to be found to help them or tell them the truth.
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It says quite clearly on the page for And The Fandom Rejoiced not to link to it. It is for in-universe examples and links from the descriptions at the beginning of related trope pages only.


* SugarWiki/AndTheFandomRejoiced: Quite a few fans were very happy after the release of ''The Secret Admirer'', as there had been concern that it would give LauncherOfAThousandShips Elsa an official LoveInterest and [[ShipSinking sink fan-favorite ships]] and/or [[{{Jossed}} joss]] fans' various interpretations of her romantic orientation. Instead, it adhered to StatusQuoIsGod and revealed "the secret admirer" to be [[ShipSinking a young child, effectively dampening speculation]] that Elsa would become an OfficialCouple with him, thus not contradicting anyone's favorite {{Fanon}}.

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* SugarWiki/AndTheFandomRejoiced: Quite a few were VERY happy after the release of ''The Secret Admirer'', as there had been concern that it would give LauncherOfAThousandShips Elsa an official LoveInterest and [[ShipSinking sink fan-favorite ships]] and/or [[{{Jossed}} joss]] fans' various interpretations of her romantic orientation. Instead, it adhered to StatusQuoIsGod and revealed "the secret admirer" to be [[ShipSinking a young child, effectively dampening speculation]] that Elsa would become an OfficialCouple with him, thus not contradicting anyone's favorite {{Fanon}}.
* AuthorsSavingThrow: It is speculated by some fans that ''The Secret Admirer'' book is Disney's subtle way to address the popular but controversial fan ship of Elsa with [[WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians Jack Frost]]. Fredmund, or Freddie, is underage (although even younger than 14 year old Jack), has skills in ice carving, loves playing games, and even has brown hair as Jack did while alive. While Elsa doesn't accept the boy's wedding proposal for obvious reasons, she tells him at the end that he became something more special for her: a [[BetterAsFriends friend]]. More than a few fans are happy believing this. Reinforced even more at the end, when Anna asks Elsa if she ever wishes to have someone special she replies that she already does, her sister.
** Anna and Elsa not trying to remember their past which was a question many fans had is finally addressed in Memory and Magic where Elsa and Anna actually try to discover why they can't remember their past and actually seek the help of the trolls to have Anna remember her memories of Elsa's magic. As StatusQuoIsGod is in place she of course doesn't regain her memories.
* BrokenBase: Fans are in dispute whether the books are actually in canon with the movie. However the shorts themselves don't contradict or addressed the events of the books.

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* SugarWiki/AndTheFandomRejoiced: Quite a few fans were VERY very happy after the release of ''The Secret Admirer'', as there had been concern that it would give LauncherOfAThousandShips Elsa an official LoveInterest and [[ShipSinking sink fan-favorite ships]] and/or [[{{Jossed}} joss]] fans' various interpretations of her romantic orientation. Instead, it adhered to StatusQuoIsGod and revealed "the secret admirer" to be [[ShipSinking a young child, effectively dampening speculation]] that Elsa would become an OfficialCouple with him, thus not contradicting anyone's favorite {{Fanon}}.
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It is speculated by some fans that ''The Secret Admirer'' book is Disney's subtle way to address the popular but controversial fan ship of Elsa with [[WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians Jack Frost]]. Fredmund, or Freddie, is underage (although even (even younger than 14 year old Jack), has skills in ice carving, loves playing games, and even has brown hair as Jack did while alive. While Elsa doesn't accept the boy's wedding proposal for obvious reasons, she tells him at the end that he became something more special for her: a [[BetterAsFriends friend]]. More than a few fans are happy believing this. Reinforced even more at the end, when Anna asks Elsa if she ever wishes to have someone special she replies that she already does, her sister.
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** Anna and Elsa not trying to remember their past past, which was a question many fans had had, is finally addressed in Memory ''Memory and Magic Magic'' where Elsa and Anna actually try to discover why they can't remember their past and actually past. They seek the help of the trolls to have Anna remember her memories of Elsa's magic. As StatusQuoIsGod is in place she of course doesn't regain her memories.
* BrokenBase: Fans are in dispute whether the books are actually in canon with the movie. However the shorts themselves don't contradict or addressed address the events of the books.



* FanPreferredCouple: Elsa/Marisol has a pretty strong following due to their LesYay. It also helps that Marisol fits the design for many female [=OCs=] (dark skinned, brunette, and dressed in red) in the fandom.
** As expected of some part of the fandom, there are people who enjoy the interactions between Anna and Elsa due to [[IncestYayShipping shipping them]].
* FanficFuel: The books provide worldbuilding, such as expanding upon other countries and how the characters are developing post-''Frozen''.

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* FanPreferredCouple: FanPreferredCouple:
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Elsa/Marisol has a pretty strong following due to their LesYay. It also helps that Marisol fits the design for many female [=OCs=] (dark skinned, brunette, and dressed in red) in the fandom.
** As expected of some part of the fandom, there There are people who enjoy the interactions between Anna and Elsa due to [[IncestYayShipping shipping them]].
* FanficFuel: The books provide worldbuilding, such as expanding upon other countries than Arendelle and how upon the characters are developing characters' development post-''Frozen''.



* Squick: Elsa's favorite dish, which is fish described as having a foul smell and a even worse taste. Anna actually has to struggle with just one bite. Thankfully Elsa notices this and spares her from finishing the whole plate.

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* Squick: {{Squick}}: Elsa's favorite dish, which is fish described as having a foul smell and a even worse taste. Anna actually has to struggle with just one bite. Thankfully Elsa notices this and spares her from finishing the whole plate.plate.
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Removed Flame Bait. The books also follow Status Quo Is God and Jennifer Lee has already stated she does not plan to take Extended Universe material from people not part of the original Frozen creative team into account for the second movie, so the books do not joss fan theories about future media.


* SugarWiki/AndTheFandomRejoiced: Quite a few were VERY happy after the release of ''The Secret Admirer'', as there had been concern that it would give LauncherOfAThousandShips Elsa an official LoveInterest and [[ShipSinking sink fan-favorite ships]] and/or [[{{Jossed}} joss]] fans' various interpretations of her romantic orientation. Instead, it adhered to StatusQuoIsGod and revealed "the secret admirer" to be [[ShipSinking a young child, effectively dampening speculation]] that Elsa would become an OfficialCouple with him, thus not contradicting anyone's particular {{Fanon}} while jossing some.
** For many, the continuing publishing of the books had helped in debunking the controversial popular Fanon belief that Jack Frost will appear in any upcoming Frozen media, something that fans are getting sick of it (particularly the never ending Online petitions for a crossover by Jelsa fans.)

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* SugarWiki/AndTheFandomRejoiced: Quite a few were VERY happy after the release of ''The Secret Admirer'', as there had been concern that it would give LauncherOfAThousandShips Elsa an official LoveInterest and [[ShipSinking sink fan-favorite ships]] and/or [[{{Jossed}} joss]] fans' various interpretations of her romantic orientation. Instead, it adhered to StatusQuoIsGod and revealed "the secret admirer" to be [[ShipSinking a young child, effectively dampening speculation]] that Elsa would become an OfficialCouple with him, thus not contradicting anyone's particular {{Fanon}} while jossing some.
** For many, the continuing publishing of the books had helped in debunking the controversial popular Fanon belief that Jack Frost will appear in any upcoming Frozen media, something that fans are getting sick of it (particularly the never ending Online petitions for a crossover by Jelsa fans.)
favorite {{Fanon}}.



** As expected of some part of the fandom, there are people who enjoy Anna's and Elsa's interactions due to [[IncestYayShipping shipping them]].

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** As expected of some part of the fandom, there are people who enjoy Anna's and Elsa's the interactions between Anna and Elsa due to [[IncestYayShipping shipping them]].
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* Squick: Elsa's favorite dish, which is fish described as having a foul smell and a even worse flavor. Anna actually has to struggle with just one bite. Thankfully Elsa notices this and spares her from finishing the whole plate.

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* Squick: Elsa's favorite dish, which is fish described as having a foul smell and a even worse flavor.taste. Anna actually has to struggle with just one bite. Thankfully Elsa notices this and spares her from finishing the whole plate.
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* LesYay: Elsa and Marisol's behavior comes off as flirty to many. They're also pretty physical despite just meeting, such as when Marisol throws her arms around Elsa and when she holds her hands while saying she'll miss Elsa very much and wishes for her to visit again soon. Even before meeting Marisol, Elsa thinks to herself that her name is beautiful.

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* LesYay: Elsa and Marisol's behavior comes off as flirty to many. They're also pretty physical despite just meeting, such as when Marisol throws her arms around Elsa and when she holds her hands while saying she'll miss Elsa very much and wishes for her to visit again soon. Even before meeting Marisol, Elsa thinks to herself that her name is beautiful.beautiful.
* Squick: Elsa's favorite dish, which is fish described as having a foul smell and a even worse flavor. Anna actually has to struggle with just one bite. Thankfully Elsa notices this and spares her from finishing the whole plate.

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** For many, the continuing publishing of the books had helped in debunking the Fanon belief that Jack frost will appear in Frozen, something that fans are getting sik of it (particularly the never ending Online petitions by Jelsa fans.)

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** For many, the continuing publishing of the books had helped in debunking the controversial popular Fanon belief that Jack frost Frost will appear in Frozen, any upcoming Frozen media, something that fans are getting sik sick of it (particularly the never ending Online petitions for a crossover by Jelsa fans.)


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** As expected of some part of the fandom, there are people who enjoy Anna's and Elsa's interactions due to [[IncestYayShipping shipping them]].

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