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** Seryu either crosses the line after she [[spoiler:kills Sheele]], OR[[note]]as some believe that killing another killer, no matter how well-liked she may be by the audience, doesn't qualify[[/note]] after she kills an innocent civilian who was ''forced'' to help petty thieves in a robbery, citing InsaneTrollLogic as justification for it.

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** If Seryu either crosses didn't cross the line after she [[spoiler:kills Sheele]], OR[[note]]as some believe that killing another killer, no matter how well-liked she may be by the audience, doesn't qualify[[/note]] after she kills killed an innocent civilian who was ''forced'' to help petty thieves in a robbery, citing InsaneTrollLogic as justification for it.it, she ''definitely'' crosses it when she [[spoiler:shoots Sheele InTheBack, then has Koro [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe rip her in half]] and [[EatenAlive eat her alive]] right in front of poor Mine]].
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** Although it does have elements of AlasPoorVillain, Seryu's defeat to Mine is incredibly satisfying to witness after what Seryu did to Sheele.

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** [[spoiler Although it does have elements of AlasPoorVillain, Seryu's defeat to Mine is incredibly satisfying to witness after what Seryu did to Sheele.Sheele]].

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* CatharsisFactor: After all the shit he pulls throughout the series, [[spoiler:Honest's]] humiliating, grotesque demise is immensely gratifying.

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After all the shit he pulls throughout the series, [[spoiler:Honest's]] humiliating, grotesque demise is immensely gratifying.gratifying.
** Although it does have elements of AlasPoorVillain, Seryu's defeat to Mine is incredibly satisfying to witness after what Seryu did to Sheele.

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** In the English dub, Mine says the line "I'm about ready to kill a bitch" after almost being eaten by Kasier Frog. Among people who were watching the dub on Toonami it instantly gained traction especially on Twitter. Most people who live tweeted for the anime would begin their tweeting for the week's episode with that line.
** Akame ga Lives [[spoiler: and everyone else dies.]] Due to the ending of the anime where [[spoiler: practically all the characters (except Akame, Najenda, Run and Wave) die[[note]]And Najenda has a terminal condition so she'll die too eventually[[/note]],]] this phrase became quite popular during some time. Another popular variation is "Akame ga Kill? More like Akame [[spoiler: gets all her friends killed]]."

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** In the English dub, Mine says the line "I'm about ready to kill a bitch" [[labelnote:Explanation]]In the English dub, Mine says the line after almost being eaten by Kasier Frog. Among people who were watching the dub on Toonami Toonami, it instantly gained traction especially on Twitter. Most people who live tweeted for the anime would begin their tweeting for the week's episode with that line.
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** Akame ga Lives [[spoiler: and everyone else dies.]] Due [[labelnote:Explanation]]Due to the ending of the anime where [[spoiler: practically all the characters (except Akame, Najenda, Run and Wave) die[[note]]And die (and Najenda has a terminal condition so she'll die too eventually[[/note]],]] eventually)]], this phrase became quite popular during some time. Another popular variation is time.[[/labelnote]]
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"Akame ga Kill? More like Akame [[spoiler: gets all her friends killed]]."" [[labelnote:Explanation]]Another popular variation of the above.[[/labelnote]]
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Some parents might mistake the series as kid friendly due to its cast of colorful characters, but the series itself is extremely bloody. For example, the manga has chapter 46 where in Wild Hunt [[spoiler:brutally rape and murder Bols' family on top of his grave]]. While the previous chapter already established them as the most irredeemably evil villains in the series, this one stands out as they [[spoiler:kill characters who have an established relationship with one of the main characters, one of the most innocent characters in the series is killed]] and Wave begins to see how corrupt TheEmpire truly is.
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** Esdeath is extremely popular for her PetTheDog moments (regardless of how contrived they are), her feelings for Tatsumi, and her loyalty towards her subordinates which leads many people to respect her even more than the heroes. Therefore, some fans feel she's redeemable, or see her simply a product of her environment. What these people forget is that Esdeath is a brutal, sadistic [[TheSocialDarwinist social darwinist]] who simply has no comprehension of mercy or empathy towards those she deems as weak, considers ColdBloodedTorture a hobby, and whose sadism is more a product of her own innate nature since even her father found her willingness to kill unnerving. She's also one of the root causes of the Empire's corruption, supporting the evil Prime Minister simply because his atrocious reign causes perpetual rebellion which provide her with endless opportunities for slaughter and bloodshed.

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** Esdeath is extremely popular for her PetTheDog moments (regardless of how contrived they are), her feelings for Tatsumi, and her loyalty towards her subordinates which leads many people to respect her even more than the heroes. Therefore, some fans feel she's redeemable, or see her simply as a product of her environment. What these people forget is that Esdeath is a brutal, sadistic [[TheSocialDarwinist social darwinist]] who simply has no comprehension of mercy or empathy towards those she deems as weak, considers ColdBloodedTorture a hobby, and whose sadism is more a product of her own innate nature since even her father found her willingness to kill unnerving. She's also one of the root causes of the Empire's corruption, supporting the evil Prime Minister simply because his atrocious reign causes perpetual rebellion rebellions which provide her with endless opportunities for slaughter and bloodshed.

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** Esdeath; she's either a badass who acts as a worthy adversary against Night Raid, or she is just too boring and predictable to watch as you're always expecting her to effortlessly win her fights. Taken up to eleven with the in-fandom arguments about whether or not Esdeath is just irredeemably evil or an emotional and psychological wreck who's a product of her environment rather than someone who is inherently evil. Opinions are all across the board with varying degrees of vitriol. Do not even ''dare'' to touch upon the topic of her being redeemed unless you want the conversation to erupt into pointless bickering.
*** While the debate rages on in regards to the anime, the manga essentially answered the question toward the end in showing that [[spoiler: Esdeath is indeed [[AlwaysChaoticEvil inherently evil]] and [[EnfanteTerrible has been so since childhood]], and that there was never any chance of redemption for her.]]
** Kurome started off as mostly a boring character no one was really interested in aside from being Akame's crazy sister. However, she ends up garnering a lot of hate for [[spoiler:what she did to Chelsea's corpse after killing her off.]] Afterwards, she starts showing a much more loving side to her through major ShipTease with Wave, but some fans just can't bring themselves to forgive her. [[spoiler:Showing off her {{Yandere}} qualities after turning Run (who was on the verge of death) into another one of her clone fighters hasn't won her any favors either.]]
*** In later chapters, the manga teases the idea that Kurome can be redeemed/saved. This leads to several debates between the fandom on whether Kurome should be redeemed or not. On one side, fans want her to live so she can pursue a relationship with Wave. On the other hand, some fans feels Kurome can't and/or shouldn't be redeemed after everything she's done, particularly killing fan favorites, [[spoiler: Chelsea and Run]]. The resolution ended up being that [[spoiler: she was indeed redeemed and ended up with Wave, which angered the opposing side of the base even more, while the side in favor of it cite that nearly every character in the series has killed or committed attrocities, and Kurome has more of a FreudianExcuse for it than most.]]

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** Esdeath; she's either a badass who acts as a worthy adversary against Night Raid, or she is just too boring and predictable to watch as you're always expecting her to effortlessly win her fights. Taken up to eleven with the in-fandom arguments about whether or not Esdeath is just irredeemably evil or an emotional and psychological wreck who's a product of her environment rather than someone who is inherently evil. Opinions are all across the board with varying degrees of vitriol. Do not even ''dare'' to touch upon the topic of her being redeemed unless you want the conversation to erupt into pointless bickering.
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bickering. While the debate rages on in regards to the anime, the manga essentially answered the question toward the end in showing that [[spoiler: Esdeath is indeed [[AlwaysChaoticEvil inherently evil]] and [[EnfanteTerrible has been so since childhood]], and that there was never any chance of redemption for her.]]
** Kurome started off as mostly a boring character no one was really interested in aside from being Akame's crazy sister. However, she ends up garnering a lot of hate for [[spoiler:what she did to Chelsea's corpse after killing her off.]] Afterwards, she starts showing a much more loving side to her through major ShipTease with Wave, but some fans just can't bring themselves to forgive her. [[spoiler:Showing off her {{Yandere}} qualities after turning Run (who was on the verge of death) into another one of her clone fighters hasn't won her any favors either.]]
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]] In later chapters, the manga teases the idea that Kurome can be redeemed/saved. This leads to several debates between the fandom on whether Kurome should be redeemed or not. On one side, fans want her to live so she can pursue a relationship with Wave. On the other hand, some fans feels Kurome can't and/or shouldn't be redeemed after everything she's done, particularly killing fan favorites, [[spoiler: Chelsea and Run]]. The resolution ended up being that [[spoiler: she was indeed redeemed and ended up with Wave, which angered the opposing side of the base even more, while the side in favor of it cite that nearly every character in the series has killed or committed attrocities, and Kurome has more of a FreudianExcuse for it than most.]]
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** To say nothing of Bulat. Introduced as one of the stronger members of Night Raid, Bulat got hit hard by MentorOccupationalHazard, getting killed off [[TooCoolToLive by chapter 14]]. Despite his rather short lived role, he was beloved both in and out of universe to the point of ranking in the Top 10 characters in both of the Popularity Polls. In the Fan Data book, another popularity poll was held to determine the most requested "Dream Fights" that never occurred in the manga in Bulat comprised 5 out the top 10.

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** To say nothing of Bulat. Introduced as one of the stronger members of Night Raid, Bulat got hit hard by MentorOccupationalHazard, getting killed off [[TooCoolToLive by chapter 14]]. Despite his rather short lived role, he was beloved both in and out of universe to the point of ranking in the Top 10 characters in both of the Popularity Polls. In the Fan Data book, another popularity poll was held to determine the most requested "Dream Fights" that never occurred in the manga in Bulat comprised 5 out the top 10.



** Akame ga Lives [[spoiler: and everyone else dies.]] Due the ending of the anime where [[spoiler: practically all the characters (except Akame, Najenda, Run and Wave) dies[[note]]And Najenda has a terminal condition so she'll die too eventually[[/note]],]] this phrase become quite popular during some time. Another popular variation is "Akame ga Kil? More like Akame [[spoiler: gets all her friends killed]]."

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** Akame ga Lives [[spoiler: and everyone else dies.]] Due to the ending of the anime where [[spoiler: practically all the characters (except Akame, Najenda, Run and Wave) dies[[note]]And die[[note]]And Najenda has a terminal condition so she'll die too eventually[[/note]],]] this phrase become became quite popular during some time. Another popular variation is "Akame ga Kil? Kill? More like Akame [[spoiler: gets all her friends killed]]."

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*** This is owed partially to the fact that [[spoiler:Esdeath]] never faces an opponent who equals her in terms of strength and is content in feeling like "a hunter" just bullying less powerful people. She loses that quickly because she is just not used to being on equal footing with anyone, and, as [[spoiler:Akame]] points out, she is overconfident.



*** In the anime, Akame's [[spoiler:trump card]] definitely can be considered this. [[spoiler:What makes it an ass pull is the fact Akame stated in earlier episodes that her Murasame does not have a trump card. Also, if a trump card does exist, there was no indication of Akame trying to figure out what it is, or an foreshadowing of one existing. Also, if Akame did find out about Murasame's trump card, why did she not use it other situations when it was really needed. What makes the trump card so frustrating, is that there was no clear explanation on what its powers are and its limitations; it was just introduced as a DeusExMachina for Akame to use in her battle with Esdeath]].

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*** ** In the anime, Akame's [[spoiler:trump card]] definitely can be considered this. [[spoiler:What makes it an ass pull is the fact Akame stated in earlier episodes that her Murasame does not have a trump card. Also, if a trump card does exist, there was no indication of Akame trying to figure out what it is, or an foreshadowing of one existing. Also, if Akame did find out about Murasame's trump card, why did she not use it other situations when it was really needed. What makes the trump card so frustrating, is that there was no clear explanation on what its powers are and its limitations; it was just introduced as a DeusExMachina for Akame to use in her battle with Esdeath]].



*** [[spoiler:Lubbock's death in the anime thanks to the Maid's actions. It looks like if the anime introduced the Maid, who only appeared during the episode where Lubbock dies, just to wound him and gave Syura a chance to introduce him in his pocket dimension, who was the thing that will finally cause Lubbock's demise]].

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*** ** [[spoiler:Lubbock's death in the anime thanks to the Maid's actions. It looks like if the anime introduced the Maid, who only appeared during the episode where Lubbock dies, just to wound him and gave Syura a chance to introduce him in his pocket dimension, who was the thing that will finally cause Lubbock's demise]].
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* DesignatedHero: Many detractors of the series find that Night Raid falls into this trope. Even though Takahiro makes it clear that Night Raid is morally gray, the detractors just don't buy into it. A main criticism the detractors aim towards Night Raid is that seeing as how TheEmpire is ObviouslyEvil (with Wave, Bols, Run, etc. being the exceptions) they are the definitive good guys of the series that the audience is supposed to root for. However because of how they mercilessly kill anyone who opposes them, lack any sort of unique qualities, and don't really allow their exploits to [[CharacterDevelopment change them as characters]] it's hard to see them as sympathetic protagonists and they come off more as heroic sociopaths rather than effective villain protagonists.
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** Leone is a more popular character among Western fans as opposed to Japanese fans. In the popularity poll she ranked relatively low being beaten by [[spoiler: long dead characters such as Chelsea, Bulat, and Sheele.]] In the West however she's just as iconic with the series as Akame and Esdeath are. She mostly caught the attention of Western audiences for her attractive and mature appearance, carefree attitude, and general badassery. The comparisons to Yang Xiao Long form ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' may also play into her overseas popularity as well. Creator Takahiro noticed this while attending an Anime convention in Switzerland, where he was surprised to see how popular Leone was with Western fans. Jokingly attributing her popularity to her [[BuxomIsBetter bust size.]]

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** Leone is a more popular character among Western fans as opposed to Japanese fans. In the popularity poll she ranked relatively low being beaten by [[spoiler: long dead characters such as Chelsea, Bulat, and Sheele.]] In the West however she's just as iconic with the series as Akame and Esdeath are. She mostly caught the attention of Western audiences for her attractive and mature appearance, carefree attitude, and general badassery. The comparisons to Yang Xiao Long form ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' may also play into her overseas popularity as well. Creator Takahiro noticed this while attending an Anime convention in Switzerland, where he was surprised to see how popular Leone was with Western fans. Jokingly attributing her popularity to her [[BuxomIsBetter [[BuxomBeautyStandard bust size.]]

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* DeathOfTheAuthor: The writer of the series has repeatedly said that Night Raid are not good people, and their actions are no better than the Empire. Most viewers disagree though, because the Empire is so comically evil, and how every antagonist Night Raid fights are shown to be so over the top cruel and evil, that Night Raid being anti-heroes comes across as an InformedAttribute of their organization. No matter how much the writer says they are bad people, Night Raid look so clearly good compared to the Empire, that almost nobody buys the idea they aren't good guys, especially when many scenes that look like they are morally gray practically bend over backwards to make them seem likable.



* DesignatedHero: Many detractors of the series find that Night Raid falls into this trope. Even though Takahiro makes it clear that Night Raid is morally gray the detractors just don't buy into it. A main criticism the detractors aim towards Night Raid is that seeing as how TheEmpire is ObviouslyEvil (with Wave, Bols, Run, etc. being the exceptions) they are the definitive good guys of the series that the audience is supposed to root for. However because of how they mercilessly kill anyone who opposes them, lack any sort of unique qualities, and don't really allow their exploits to [[CharacterDevelopment change them as characters]] it's hard to see them as sympathetic protagonists and they come off more as heroic sociopaths rather than effective villain protagonists.

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* DesignatedHero: Many detractors of the series find that Night Raid falls into this trope. Even though Takahiro makes it clear that Night Raid is morally gray gray, the detractors just don't buy into it. A main criticism the detractors aim towards Night Raid is that seeing as how TheEmpire is ObviouslyEvil (with Wave, Bols, Run, etc. being the exceptions) they are the definitive good guys of the series that the audience is supposed to root for. However because of how they mercilessly kill anyone who opposes them, lack any sort of unique qualities, and don't really allow their exploits to [[CharacterDevelopment change them as characters]] it's hard to see them as sympathetic protagonists and they come off more as heroic sociopaths rather than effective villain protagonists.



* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Averted. After Sheele's death, fans have to realized that no character is safe (aside from Tatsumi and Akame, and even then some fans have their doubts) and that AnyoneCanDie is in full effect.
** In an inversion of this trope, lots of fans expected [[spoiler: Mine to die after she becomes Tatsumi's girlfriend]] to play the CollateralAngst trope. [[spoiler: She]] has managed to survive every dangerous encounter since then and has [[spoiler: even fell into a coma after overexerting herself against Budo, when she died in the equivalent scene of the Anime.]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: One of the shorts parodies a DatingSim by placing Tatsumi in one with Esdeath as the love interest... who proceeds to hijack the sim itself to force Tatsumi to pick the options that will bring him closer to her, even changing all the menu options so they all say 'Take me now'. Only three years later, an actual visual novel, ''VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub'' would do pretty much the exact same thing.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: [[spoiler: The gun that Honest uses to inflict lethal wounds on Leone is a flintlock pistol. He is able to shoot multiple bullets in one round and doesn't need to reload. However, a real flintlock pistol can only shoot one bullet per round and usually demands lengthy reload times with 15 seconds being the minimum and that is if you're an expert. Realistically, Honest would have not been able to inflict fatal wounds on Leone and even if he had enough bullets Leone would have killed him before he could fatally wound her.]]

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*** In later chapters, the manga teases the idea that Kurome can be redeemed/saved. This leads to several debates between the fandom on whether Kurome should be redeemed or not. On one side, fans want her to live so she can pursue a [[FanPreferredCouple relationship with Wave]]. On the other hand, some fans feels Kurome can't and/or shouldn't be redeemed after everything she's done, particularly killing fan favorites, [[spoiler: Chelsea and Run]]. The resolution ended up being that [[spoiler: she was indeed redeemed and ended up with Wave, which angered the opposing side of the base even more, while the side in favor of it cite that nearly every character in the series has killed or committed attrocities, and Kurome has more of a FreudianExcuse for it than most.]]

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*** In later chapters, the manga teases the idea that Kurome can be redeemed/saved. This leads to several debates between the fandom on whether Kurome should be redeemed or not. On one side, fans want her to live so she can pursue a [[FanPreferredCouple relationship with Wave]].Wave. On the other hand, some fans feels Kurome can't and/or shouldn't be redeemed after everything she's done, particularly killing fan favorites, [[spoiler: Chelsea and Run]]. The resolution ended up being that [[spoiler: she was indeed redeemed and ended up with Wave, which angered the opposing side of the base even more, while the side in favor of it cite that nearly every character in the series has killed or committed attrocities, and Kurome has more of a FreudianExcuse for it than most.]]



** Esdeath is by '''far''' the most popular character in this series, it is actually rather easy to forget that she is just TheDragon (making her "technically" a secondary antagonist) for the true BigBad and not the actual main antagonist of the series.
** Night Raid's Chelsea gets special mention. Despite arguably having the least amount of screen time (in the main series) out of all of the Night Raids members (rivaling only Sheele), she ranked #2 in the first official character poll held in Japan, beating Mine who was #3 and being only being beat by Esdeath (obviously) for #1. Due to her popularity, [[BreakoutCharacter she is given a bigger role in the prequel series]], and can be considered the Tritagonist of ''Zero''.



** Lubbock isn't far behind them, and is frequently considered to be one of the most likable and interesting members of Night Raid. The fact that he managed to [[spoiler: kill [[HateSink Syura]]]] even after [[spoiler: getting [[GroinAttack one of his balls ripped off]]]] certainly didn't hurt his popularity any.
** Wave and Bols stand out as the most likable members of the Jaegers, despite their actions. Run qualifies as well after finally getting some screen-time to build his character in chapters 47 and 48; proving to also be a rather likable Jaeger member who many have jokingly nicknamed as the [[Anime/CodeGeass "Suzaku"]] of ''Akame Ga Kill'' due to his desire to ''change the empire's system from within''.
** Kurome too, once her [[FanPreferredCouple relationship with Wave]] developed and her [[JerkassWoobie backstory explored.]]



* FanPreferredCouple:
** Wave/Kurome is probably the most supported pairing as of late, given the amount of ShipTease they've gotten after [[spoiler: Wave kicks Syura's ass to prevent him from raping Kurome.]] Support for them certainly have grown after [[spoiler: Kurome kisses Wave]]. [[spoiler: Naturally there was much rejoicing after Wave reciprocates her feelings and he convinces Kurome to abandon the war and live happily together as an OfficialCouple‎]].
** While the canon relationship between [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Tatsumi]] and [[OfficialCouple Mine]] has plenty of supporters, chances are you will find a group fans that prefer different pairings, most notably Tatsumi/Akame and Tatsumi/Esdeath, instead.
** Akame/Leone has been slowly gathering support from the fan base as of late. This seems to be a case of PairTheSpares after Tatsumi became an OfficialCouple with Mine. Also, the great deal of LesYay moments (see their entry for more details) between the two certainly helps.

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** Wave/Kurome is probably the most supported pairing as of late, given the amount of ShipTease they've gotten after [[spoiler: Wave kicks Syura's ass to prevent him from raping Kurome.]] Support for them certainly have grown after [[spoiler: Kurome kisses Wave]]. [[spoiler: Naturally there was much rejoicing after Wave reciprocates her feelings and he convinces Kurome to abandon the war and live happily together as an OfficialCouple‎]].
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FanPreferredCouple: While the canon relationship between [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Tatsumi]] and [[OfficialCouple Mine]] has plenty of supporters, chances are you will find a group fans that prefer different pairings, most notably Tatsumi/Akame and Tatsumi/Esdeath, instead.
** Akame/Leone has been slowly gathering support from the fan base as of late. This seems to be a case of PairTheSpares after Tatsumi became an OfficialCouple with Mine. Also, the great deal of LesYay moments (see their entry for more details) between the two certainly helps.
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** Many fans find the Jaegers to be much more likable characters compared to Night Raid, especially since some of its members include FanPreferredCouple, Wave and Kurome, and the mega-popular Esdeath.

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** Many fans find the Jaegers to be much more likable characters compared to Night Raid, especially since some of its members include FanPreferredCouple, OneTruePairing, Wave and Kurome, and the mega-popular Esdeath.



** Even more so in Zero. Especially since the main characters this time around are [[VillainProtagonist Villain Protagonists]], and the "antagonists" include Akame's [[spoiler: ParentalSubstitute, Martha]], the {{Adorkable}} Taeko, and returning EnsembleDarkhorse Chelsea.

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** Even more so in Zero. Especially since the main characters this time around are [[VillainProtagonist Villain Protagonists]], and the "antagonists" include Akame's [[spoiler: ParentalSubstitute, Martha]], the {{Adorkable}} Taeko, and returning EnsembleDarkhorse fan-favorite Chelsea.



* FanPreferredCouple: If there's one thing the anime original ending contributed to the fandom it was the Leone x Run pairing gaining traction. This comes from the fact that in the penultimate episode [[spoiler: the two have to team up to save citizens from Shikoutazer's destruction]] and have some very friendly remarks towards each other, leading viewers to believe they would have worked out in a romantic relationship.
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The manga already has this listed because of the excessive shock value it had and the sheer depravity of the antagonists being quite extensive. It's to the point that thanks to [[PsychoForHire Wild Hunt]], the manga ''is'' darker than the anime in terms of sheer content disparity. And yet the GeckoEnding for the anime, where [[spoiler:[[KillEmAll nearly every single major character dies]] or is set to die besides Akame, Run and Wave, and the story rushes the final arc so hard that you can barely have the time to comprehend any of it before it's onto the next major death,]] is so ''infamous'' that it caused a gigantic EndingAversion, made manga readers pray for the ending to not be the same, and had many fans, ongoing or potential, swear off of the anime altogether even [[ItWasHisSled without having watched it.]]

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The manga already has this listed because of the excessive shock value it had and the sheer depravity of the antagonists being quite extensive. It's to the point that thanks to [[PsychoForHire Wild Hunt]], the manga ''is'' darker than the anime in terms of sheer content disparity. And yet the GeckoEnding for the anime, where [[spoiler:[[KillEmAll nearly every single major character dies]] or is set to die besides Akame, Run and Wave, and the story rushes the final arc so hard that you can barely have the time to comprehend any of it before it's onto the next major death,]] is so ''infamous'' that it caused a gigantic EndingAversion, made manga readers pray for the ending to not be the same, and had many fans, ongoing or potential, swear off of the anime altogether even [[ItWasHisSled without having watched it.]]
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The manga already has this listed because of the excessive shock value it had and the sheer depravity of the antagonists being quite extensive. It's to the point that thanks to [[PsychoForHire Wild Hunt]], the manga ''is'' darker than the anime in terms of sheer content disparity. And yet the GeckoEnding for the anime, where [[spoiler:[[KillEmAll nearly every single major character dies]] or is set to die besides Akame, Run and Wave, and the story rushes the final arc so hard that you can barely have the time to comprehend any of it before it's onto the next major death,]] is so ''infamous'' that it caused a gigantic EndingAversion, made manga readers pray for the ending to not be the same, and had many fans, ongoing or potential, swear off of the anime altogether even [[ItWasHisSled without having watched it.]]



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Let's just establish right away that the anime deviating from the manga from episode 19 onward was NOT well-received.

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** [[http://i.imgur.com/SxD4CQ9.jpg Budo is a Jobber]][[note]]A meme stemming from the disappointing performance of Budo in the manga. He was hyped as being nearly as strong as Esdeath, but in his battle against Night Raid, he is kicked by Mine in the beginning of the fight, loses his composture during the battle, is beaten by Tatsumi with his power up and ends up suffering a very ignominious death at the hands of Mine.[[/note]]

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** [[http://i.imgur.com/SxD4CQ9.jpg Budo is a Jobber]][[note]]A meme stemming from the disappointing performance of Budo in the manga. He was hyped as being nearly as strong as Esdeath, but in his battle against Night Raid, he is kicked by Mine in the beginning of the fight, [[VillainousBreakdown loses his composture composure during the battle, battle]], is beaten by Tatsumi with his power up and ends up suffering a very ignominious death at the hands of Mine.[[/note]]
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** Chelsea falls under this category. Her comment on how she believes Sheele and Bulat were "terrible assassins" and killing [[spoiler:the AntiVillain Bols]] certainly won her some dislike from the fan base. In the most extreme cases, many actually rejoiced when she faced her [[spoiler: KarmicDeath]]. However, despite all this, Chelsea manages to be one of the most popular characters, winning 2nd place in the official character poll for the Japanese fan base. There are also those who would argue that Chelsea's [[spoiler: death]] wasn't at all justified, pointing out some of the series more irredeemable characters had [[spoiler: deaths]] that were nowhere nears as undignified, [[spoiler: or painful]], as hers. Additional, many of Chelsea's claims do have [[JerkassHasAPoint valid points to them]], as most of them do in fact come true in later chapters.

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** Chelsea falls under this category. Her comment on how she believes Sheele and Bulat were "terrible assassins" and killing [[spoiler:the AntiVillain Bols]] certainly won her some dislike from the fan base. In the most extreme cases, many actually rejoiced when she faced her [[spoiler: KarmicDeath]].[[spoiler:death]]. However, despite all this, Chelsea manages to be one of the most popular characters, winning 2nd place in the official character poll for the Japanese fan base. There are also those who would argue that Chelsea's [[spoiler: death]] wasn't at all justified, pointing out some of the series more irredeemable characters had [[spoiler: deaths]] that were nowhere nears as undignified, [[spoiler: or painful]], as hers. Additional, Additionally, many of Chelsea's claims do have [[JerkassHasAPoint valid points to them]], as most of them do in fact come true in later chapters.
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** Esdeath; she's either a badass who acts as a worthy adversary against Night Raid, or she is just too boring and predictable to watch as you're always expecting her to effortlessly win her fights. Taken {{Up To Eleven}} with the in-fandom arguments about whether or not Esdeath is just irredeemably evil or an emotional and psychological wreck who's a product of her environment rather than someone who is inherently evil. Opinions are all across the board with varying degrees of vitriol. Do not even ''dare'' to touch upon the topic of her being redeemed unless you want the conversation to erupt into pointless bickering.

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** Esdeath; she's either a badass who acts as a worthy adversary against Night Raid, or she is just too boring and predictable to watch as you're always expecting her to effortlessly win her fights. Taken {{Up To Eleven}} up to eleven with the in-fandom arguments about whether or not Esdeath is just irredeemably evil or an emotional and psychological wreck who's a product of her environment rather than someone who is inherently evil. Opinions are all across the board with varying degrees of vitriol. Do not even ''dare'' to touch upon the topic of her being redeemed unless you want the conversation to erupt into pointless bickering.



* TooBleakStoppedCaring: One of the darkest ''shonen'' manga series ever released. The main characters, while likable, are assassins, which is a very shady occupation for a protagonist. Some of the antagonists can be likable and because AnyoneCanDie prepare for several TearJerker. Then in the manga's second arc the apathy is taken UpToEleven with the appearance of villains who are pure evil. Killing off major characters also loses its shock value as the series goes on.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: One of the darkest ''shonen'' manga series ever released. The main characters, while likable, are assassins, which is a very shady occupation for a protagonist. Some of the antagonists can be likable and because AnyoneCanDie prepare for several TearJerker. Then in the manga's second arc the apathy is taken UpToEleven up to eleven with the appearance of villains who are pure evil. Killing off major characters also loses its shock value as the series goes on.



** The Emperor: He wants to make TheEmpire a prosperous country where people are happy. However, Prime Minister Honest is secretly manipulating him into making things worse... and he doesn't even know it. Despite the fact that Honest is using him for his own means and lying right in front of his face, he still trusts him and believes him to be a kindhearted man. [[spoiler:TakenUpToEleven when we find out that Honest killed his parents but lied to him about the cause of their death]].

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** The Emperor: He wants to make TheEmpire a prosperous country where people are happy. However, Prime Minister Honest is secretly manipulating him into making things worse... and he doesn't even know it. Despite the fact that Honest is using him for his own means and lying right in front of his face, he still trusts him and believes him to be a kindhearted man. [[spoiler:TakenUpToEleven [[spoiler:Exaggerated when we find out that Honest killed his parents but lied to him about the cause of their death]].
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* EndingAversion: The manga unfortunately got hit with this by the fanbase once it became apparent that it was going to follow the same plot threads that the Anime did. The primary differences only being who survived in the end. [[spoiler: Tatsumi, Mine, Kurome, and Suzuka all make it out alive in the manga while Run dies since the Wild Hunt arc never got adapted in the anime.]]

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it was in the anime part but was talking about the manga


* TooBleakStoppedCaring: One of the darkest ''shonen'' manga series ever released. The main characters, while likable, are assassins, which is a very shady occupation for a protagonist. Some of the antagonists can be likable and because AnyoneCanDie prepare for several TearJerker. Then in the manga's second arc the apathy is taken UpToEleven with the appearance of villains who are pure evil. Killing off major characters also loses its shock value as the series goes on.



* TooBleakStoppedCaring: One of the darkest ''shonen'' manga series ever released. The main characters, while likable, are assassins, which is a very shady occupation for a protagonist. Some of the antagonists can be likable and because AnyoneCanDie prepare for several TearJerker. Then in the manga's second arc the apathy is taken UpToEleven with the appearance of villains who are pure evil. Killing off major characters also loses its shock value as the series goes on.
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** Esdeath is extremely popular for her PetTheDog moments (regardless of how contrived they are), her feelings for Tatsumi, and her loyalty towards her subordinates which leads many people to respect her even more than the heroes. As a result, some fans feel she's redeemable, or see her simply a product of her environment. What these people forget is that Esdeath is a brutal, sadistic [[TheSocialDarwinist social darwinist]] who simply has no comprehension of mercy or empathy towards those she deems as weak, considers ColdBloodedTorture a hobby, and whose sadism is more a product of her own innate nature since even her father found her willingness to kill unnerving. She's also one of the root causes of the Empire's corruption, supporting the evil Prime Minister simply because his atrocious reign causes perpetual rebellion which provide her with endless opportunities for slaughter and bloodshed.
** Bols. The guy burns down entire villages filled with innocent people, including little girls (something that Chelsea pointed out), and makes it clears that he plans continuing his work as a murderer and an arsonist, despite knowing fully well what he has doing was wrong, so it's not like he's ObliviouslyEvil. His motives are pretty vague, except for a SomeoneHasToDoIt attitude, so it was never really clear if he was TrappedInVillainy or (more likely) consciously decided to be a killer. But is seen as a "good guy" because he [[IHaveAFamily has a family]] that... [[TheUnfettered supports him doing the jobs he hates so much]]. What were [[SatelliteCharacter their]] [[NoNameGiven names, again]]?

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** Esdeath is extremely popular for her PetTheDog moments (regardless of how contrived they are), her feelings for Tatsumi, and her loyalty towards her subordinates which leads many people to respect her even more than the heroes. As a result, Therefore, some fans feel she's redeemable, or see her simply a product of her environment. What these people forget is that Esdeath is a brutal, sadistic [[TheSocialDarwinist social darwinist]] who simply has no comprehension of mercy or empathy towards those she deems as weak, considers ColdBloodedTorture a hobby, and whose sadism is more a product of her own innate nature since even her father found her willingness to kill unnerving. She's also one of the root causes of the Empire's corruption, supporting the evil Prime Minister simply because his atrocious reign causes perpetual rebellion which provide her with endless opportunities for slaughter and bloodshed.
** Bols. The guy burns down entire villages filled with innocent people, including little girls (something that Chelsea pointed out), and makes it clears that he plans continuing his work as a murderer and an arsonist, despite knowing fully well what he has doing was wrong, so it's not like he's ObliviouslyEvil. His motives are pretty vague, except for a SomeoneHasToDoIt attitude, so it was never really clear if he was TrappedInVillainy or (more likely) consciously decided to be a killer. But is seen as a "good guy" because he [[IHaveAFamily has a family]] that... [[TheUnfettered supports him doing the jobs he hates so much]]. What were [[SatelliteCharacter their]] [[NoNameGiven names, again]]?



** [[http://i.imgur.com/SxD4CQ9.jpg Budo is a Jobber]] [[note]]A meme stemming from the disappointing performance of Budo in the manga. He was hyped as being nearly as strong as Esdeath, but in his battle against Night Raid, he is kicked by Mine in the beginning of the fight, loses his composture during the battle, is beaten by Tatsumi with his power up and ends up suffering a very ignominious death at the hands of Mine.[[/note]]

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** [[http://i.imgur.com/SxD4CQ9.jpg Budo is a Jobber]] [[note]]A Jobber]][[note]]A meme stemming from the disappointing performance of Budo in the manga. He was hyped as being nearly as strong as Esdeath, but in his battle against Night Raid, he is kicked by Mine in the beginning of the fight, loses his composture during the battle, is beaten by Tatsumi with his power up and ends up suffering a very ignominious death at the hands of Mine.[[/note]]



** [[GeckoEnding "Please don't end like the anime!"]] [[labelnote: Spoilers]]Became somewhat HeartwarmingInHindsight since the manga is over and the characters who died in the anime (Tatsumi, Mine and Kurome) not only survived at the end but were given happy endings. So the fans got their wish.[[/labelnote]]

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** [[GeckoEnding "Please don't end like the anime!"]] [[labelnote: Spoilers]]Became anime!"]][[labelnote:Spoilers]]Became somewhat HeartwarmingInHindsight since the manga is over and the characters who died in the anime (Tatsumi, Mine and Kurome) not only survived at the end but were given happy endings. So the fans got their wish.[[/labelnote]]



** It's hard to say if or when [[MoralSociopathy Esdeath]] ever crosses it, but a good choice would be [[spoiler:creating a Russian winter that blanketed the entire Empire]], knowing very well that such an act would kill many soldiers on both sides. This alone subverts one of her [[AFatherToHisMen few redeeming traits]] while also emphasizing one of her [[TheSocialDarwinist more villainous traits]].

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** It's hard to say if or when [[MoralSociopathy Esdeath]] ever crosses it, but a good choice would be [[spoiler:creating a Russian winter that blanketed the entire Empire]], knowing very well that such an act would kill many soldiers on both sides. This alone subverts one of her [[AFatherToHisMen [[AMotherToHerMen few redeeming traits]] while also emphasizing one of her [[TheSocialDarwinist more villainous traits]].
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** UpToEleven in Zero. Especially since the main characters this time around are [[VillainProtagonist Villain Protagonists]], and the "antagonists" include Akame's [[spoiler: ParentalSubstitute, Martha]], the {{Adorkable}} Taeko, and returning EnsembleDarkhorse Chelsea.

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** UpToEleven Even more so in Zero. Especially since the main characters this time around are [[VillainProtagonist Villain Protagonists]], and the "antagonists" include Akame's [[spoiler: ParentalSubstitute, Martha]], the {{Adorkable}} Taeko, and returning EnsembleDarkhorse Chelsea.

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* WhatAnIdiot:
** Seriously Bolic, did you really think that trying to rape a woman who: A) isn't dead and B) has a healing ability, in the middle of a death battle is a [[TooDumbToLive good idea?]]
** Great General Budo despises Prime Minister Honest and ''openly'' plans on "dealing with him" for the sake of the Empire. A group of revolutionaries just so happen to have the exact same plan as him and are plotting a rebellion again Honest with a group of very skilled assassins (i.e Night Raid). One would expect that Budo would at least flirt with the idea of allying himself with this revolutionary group who has the exact same end goal as him. Instead, Budo opposes the revolution, stating that ''he'' alone would kill Honest.



** Similar to Wave and Run, most manga fans were not pleased with Mine's reduced role in the anime. Unlike the manga where [[spoiler: she becomes an OfficialCouple with Tatsumi]] her only meaningful interactions with him are ShipTease moments and in turn she lacks the CharacterDevelopment form the source material. As a result many viewers found that the anime made Mine come off as a generic {{tsundere}} with not much else to her.

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** Similar to Wave and Run, most manga fans were not pleased with Mine's reduced role in the anime. Unlike the manga where [[spoiler: she becomes an OfficialCouple with Tatsumi]] her only meaningful interactions with him are ShipTease moments and in turn she lacks the CharacterDevelopment form from the source material. As a result many viewers found that the anime made Mine come off as a generic {{tsundere}} with not much else to her.



* WhatAnIdiot:
** [[spoiler: Leone in episode 24. Let's count the ways... She has a stomach wound via gun and she could press on. One would expect her to at least try to find a medic to treat the injury. The action she takes instead? After parting ways with Akame, Leone goes into an alley and dies. [[SarcasmMode A very brilliant decision.]]]]
** The palace maid in episode 20 [[spoiler: stabbing Lubbock as a result of Syura manipulating her which in turn led to Lubbock's death.]] Not only did she choose to trust an obvious psychopath but also chose to follow him to "save" her parents even though [[spoiler: they were already dead.]] Some have even gone as far to say that Lubbock [[spoiler: wouldn't have died]] if she didn't blindly listen to Syura or didn't appear in the anime at all.
** Dr Stylish doing a break-in to the Night Raid base. What does he do? He goes without conferring with the other Jaegers, [[spoiler: causing his demise]]. This was justified in the manga, since Stylish wanted to experiment on the Night Raid members and have them all to himself (plus he didn't trust Esdeath, due to deeming her love for Tatsumi a weakness), but since the anime removed the scene where he mentions those details, he ended up looking like a moron.
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** In an inversion of this trope, lots of fans expected [[spoiler: Mine to die after she becomes Tatsumi's girlfriend]] to play the StuffedIntoTheFridge trope. [[spoiler: She]] has managed to survive every dangerous encounter since then and has [[spoiler: even fell into a coma after overexerting herself against Budo, when she died in the equivalent scene of the Anime.]]

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** In an inversion of this trope, lots of fans expected [[spoiler: Mine to die after she becomes Tatsumi's girlfriend]] to play the StuffedIntoTheFridge CollateralAngst trope. [[spoiler: She]] has managed to survive every dangerous encounter since then and has [[spoiler: even fell into a coma after overexerting herself against Budo, when she died in the equivalent scene of the Anime.]]
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* FanNickname:
** Seryu is often called Justice Girl or Justice-chan due her obsession with justice and who is right or wrong.
** It's not uncommon for people to refer to Wild Hunt as "Rape Hunt" or "Wild Cunt" because of the group's [[RapeIsaSpecialKindofEvil "activities"]] in The Empire.
** In the manga the Revolutionary Army doctor that uses Perfector and gives Tatsumi a check-up in chapter 56 has been referred to as "Dr. Not Stylish" by fans due to the fact that he bears an uncanny resemblance to him while also possessing his Teigu.
** [[spoiler: The Ultimate Teigu, Shikoutazer is often referred to by fans as the Megazord.]]
** Chelsea is [[NeverLiveItDown often referred to]] as the "Ginger [[spoiler:[[DecapitationPresentation Lollipop]]]]".
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** After Syura losses his fist fight with Wave, Syura spent a good chunk of his time trying to figure out the best way to kill Wave off in secret. Despite all the foreshadowing that Syura would do something very drastic in his attempts to kill Wave, nothing really comes of it and [[spoiler: Syura is killed off by Luboock before he can try do anything against Wave.]]
** The entire "change the Empire from within" subplot is rendered moot after [[spoiler: Run's death and Wave choosing to OptOut to protect Kurome]]. Despite having a lot of focus on it, nothing major came out it, and one can easily write the subplot out of the story altogether. Run desire of revenge for the murder of his students and Wave devotion to his unseen mentor was already enough of a catalyst for their actions and could of easily move the story along in the same manner.

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** After Syura losses his fist fight with Wave, Syura spent a good chunk of his time trying to figure out the best way to kill Wave off in secret. Despite all the foreshadowing that Syura would do something very drastic in his attempts to kill Wave, nothing really comes of it and [[spoiler: Syura [[spoiler:Syura is killed off by Luboock before he can try do anything against Wave.]]
Wave]].
** The entire "change the Empire from within" subplot is rendered moot after [[spoiler: Run's [[spoiler:Run's death and Wave choosing to OptOut to protect Kurome]]. Despite having a lot of focus on it, nothing major came out it, and one can easily write the subplot out of the story altogether. Run desire of revenge for the murder of his students and Wave devotion to his unseen mentor was already enough of a catalyst for their actions and could of easily move the story along in the same manner.



** The Teigu themselves can be considered a wasted plot point since all we ever learn about them is they were made a really long time ago, there are 48 of them, and they are powerful enough to kill people. It's baffling that one of the most important aspects of the series has hardly been explored and seeing as how the manga is reaching its climax we may never even learn what all of the Teigu are. Had Takahiro went into more depth with the Teigu we could have learned about the First Emperor's odyssey to create them, the identities of their previous wielders, and historical battles where they have been involved which would paint a better image of how TheEmpire ended up the way it did. It doesn't help that Takahiro had the perfect opportunity to delve into the history of Teigu with Susanoo, a character who is not only a living Teigu but has also existed long before any other character in the series. [[spoiler: Unfortunately Susanoo is killed off before he can even tell Night Raid anything about the history of Teigu.]]
* {{Troperiffic}}: See under ClicheStorm. There are plenty of people who enjoy this series unironically, despite, or perhaps because of, its derivative nature.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: The series rather plainly portrays Chelsea as the most ruthless of the Night Raid due to her views on the war and dismissing Tatsumi for his idealism. [[spoiler: Even her killing of Bols is considered ruthless, despite his killing of multiple innocents, and Chelsea gets arguably the most brutal and mean-spirited death in the series shortly after. To a number of readers though they found themselves siding with Chelsea's viewpoint.]]
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:

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** The Teigu themselves can be considered a wasted plot point since all we ever learn about them is they were made a really long time ago, there are 48 of them, and they are powerful enough to kill people. It's baffling that one of the most important aspects of the series has hardly been explored and seeing as how the manga is reaching its climax we may never even learn what all of the Teigu are. Had Takahiro went into more depth with the Teigu we could have learned about the First Emperor's odyssey to create them, the identities of their previous wielders, and historical battles where they have been involved which would paint a better image of how TheEmpire ended up the way it did. It doesn't help that Takahiro had the perfect opportunity to delve into the history of Teigu with Susanoo, a character who is not only a living Teigu but has also existed long before any other character in the series. [[spoiler: Unfortunately [[spoiler:Unfortunately Susanoo is killed off before he can even tell Night Raid anything about the history of Teigu.]]
Teigu]].
* {{Troperiffic}}: See under ClicheStorm. There are plenty of people who enjoy this series unironically, despite, or perhaps because of, its derivative nature.
nature.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: The series rather plainly portrays Chelsea as the most ruthless of the Night Raid due to her views on the war and dismissing Tatsumi for his idealism. [[spoiler: Even [[spoiler:Even her killing of Bols is considered ruthless, despite his killing of multiple innocents, and Chelsea gets arguably the most brutal and mean-spirited death in the series shortly after. To a number of readers though they found themselves siding with Chelsea's viewpoint.]]
viewpoint]].
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:



** Bols is very much a PunchClockVillain, being one of the nicest and well-adjusted members of the Jaegers along with Wave and Run. He's also unquestionably a war criminal who burns innocent citizens alive due to their loose suspicion of being connected to the Night Raid. [[spoiler: The series plays up the fact that he is a loving father and husband to increase the tragedy of his death, but a number of people came out siding with Chelsea when she coldly tells him his FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse as she kills him.]]

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** Bols is very much a PunchClockVillain, being one of the nicest and well-adjusted members of the Jaegers along with Wave and Run. He's also unquestionably a war criminal who burns innocent citizens alive due to their loose suspicion of being connected to the Night Raid. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The series plays up the fact that he is a loving father and husband to increase the tragedy of his death, but a number of people came out siding with Chelsea when she coldly tells him his FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse it doesn't matter as she kills him.]]him]].



** It sometimes feels like a shonen version of ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'' with many of the major characters dying, {{Crapsack World}}, extreme badassery, etc.

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** It sometimes feels like a shonen version of ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'' ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' with many of the major characters dying, {{Crapsack World}}, extreme badassery, etc.



* WinBackTheCrowd: After many readers were disappointed with the Wild Hunt and Wild Hunt End mini-arcs and the battle with Budo, many thought that chapter 61 was a return to form for the series. With Wild Hunt and Budo out of the picture, and Mine [[spoiler: removed from the story due to her coma]] this allowed Takahiro to focus on the core plot rather than shock value violence, or the romance sub-plot. Aspects such as Akame having a more important role in the plot, the story actually focusing on the war and the Revolutionary Army's efforts to fight the Empire, and Wave and Kurome's story arc finally get some much needed closure were all met with positive reception among most fans.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: After many readers were disappointed with the Wild Hunt and Wild Hunt End mini-arcs and the battle with Budo, many thought that chapter 61 was a return to form for the series. With Wild Hunt and Budo out of the picture, and Mine [[spoiler: removed [[spoiler:removed from the story due to her coma]] this allowed Takahiro to focus on the core plot rather than shock value violence, or the romance sub-plot. Aspects such as Akame having a more important role in the plot, the story actually focusing on the war and the Revolutionary Army's efforts to fight the Empire, and Wave and Kurome's story arc finally get some much needed closure were all met with positive reception among most fans.



** Lubbock: Gets little respect from his comrades and suffers a huge InferioritySuperiorityComplex. To top it off, left his life of comfort to work for the woman he fell in love with, goes above and beyond to prove his love for her, and ultimately DidNotGetTheGirl. Not because she didn't return his feeling, but because [[spoiler: he was killed before they can establish a relationship]].

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** Lubbock: Gets little respect from his comrades and suffers a huge InferioritySuperiorityComplex. To top it off, left his life of comfort to work for the woman he fell in love with, goes above and beyond to prove his love for her, and ultimately DidNotGetTheGirl. Not because she didn't return his feeling, but because [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he was killed before they can establish a relationship]].



** Chelsea: Like Lubbock, her background revealed that Chelsea had good chance for living a comfortable life, but she just couldn't stand the corruption around her. She is the SoleSurvivor for two previous groups that she was a part of. Plus there's her [[spoiler: UndignifiedDeath and the desecration of her corpse]]. Also, there's the heavy implication that she wanted to tell her feelings to Tatsumi after the mission that [[spoiler: lead to her death]].
** Wave: Much like Tatsumi the series LOVES tormenting him. It's made even worse with the fact that he's the only major character who hasn't killed anyone on screen, and is arguably the OnlySaneMan in the series. He wanted to protect his comrades only for him to [[spoiler: blame himself for the deaths of Bols and Seryu]], had to witness Run, his comrade and close friend [[spoiler: get turned into a lifeless puppet]] and wants to settle down with Kurome but knows she's in a spot where it's unlikely for him. He would only reach the apex of his torment in the Wild Hunt mini-arc where [[spoiler: the death of Bols' wife and daughter]] made him truly realize how corrupt the Empire was, and almost saw Syura [[spoiler: attempt to rape Kurome.]]
** Bols: While his job had him kill countless people, it's hard to deny that many people have treated him horribly. The guy has literally been reduced to wearing a mask on his face just because he's afraid to show himself and because of that people think he's some monster. There's also the fact that he's aware of how messed up his occupation truly is and he even has some sense of awareness that the Empire is corrupt. However in the end he just wants to make his family happy, even if he isn't happy with what he has to do to make them happy. Only made even worse when [[spoiler: after his death, his wife and daughter are killed by Wild Hunt on top of his grave.]]
** The Emperor: He wants to make TheEmpire a prosperous country where people are happy. However, Prime Minister Honest is secretly manipulating him into making things worse... and he doesn't even know it. Despite the fact that Honest is using him for his own means and lying right in front of his face, he still trusts him and believes him to be a kindhearted man. [[spoiler: TakenUpToEleven when we find out that Honest killed his parents but lied to him about the cause of their death.]]

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** Chelsea: Like Lubbock, her background revealed that Chelsea had good chance for living a comfortable life, but she just couldn't stand the corruption around her. She is the SoleSurvivor for two previous groups that she was a part of. Plus there's her [[spoiler: UndignifiedDeath [[spoiler:UndignifiedDeath and the desecration of her corpse]]. Also, there's the heavy implication that she wanted to tell her feelings to Tatsumi after the mission that [[spoiler: lead [[spoiler:lead to her death]].
** Wave: Much like Tatsumi the series LOVES tormenting him. It's made even worse with the fact that he's the only major character who hasn't killed anyone on screen, and is arguably the OnlySaneMan in the series. He wanted to protect his comrades only for him to [[spoiler: blame [[spoiler:blame himself for the deaths of Bols and Seryu]], had to witness Run, his comrade and close friend [[spoiler: get [[spoiler:get turned into a lifeless puppet]] and wants to settle down with Kurome but knows she's in a spot where it's unlikely for him. He would only reach the apex of his torment in the Wild Hunt mini-arc where [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the death of Bols' wife and daughter]] made him truly realize how corrupt the Empire was, and almost saw Syura [[spoiler: attempt [[spoiler:attempt to rape Kurome.]]
Kurome]].
** Bols: While his job had him kill countless people, it's hard to deny that many people have treated him horribly. The guy has literally been reduced to wearing a mask on his face just because he's afraid to show himself and because of that people think he's some monster. There's also the fact that he's aware of how messed up his occupation truly is and he even has some sense of awareness that the Empire is corrupt. However in the end he just wants to make his family happy, even if he isn't happy with what he has to do to make them happy. Only made even worse when [[spoiler: after [[spoiler:after his death, his wife and daughter are killed by Wild Hunt on top of his grave.]]
grave]].
** The Emperor: He wants to make TheEmpire a prosperous country where people are happy. However, Prime Minister Honest is secretly manipulating him into making things worse... and he doesn't even know it. Despite the fact that Honest is using him for his own means and lying right in front of his face, he still trusts him and believes him to be a kindhearted man. [[spoiler: TakenUpToEleven [[spoiler:TakenUpToEleven when we find out that Honest killed his parents but lied to him about the cause of their death.]]death]].



** During the second half of the anime, the surviving members of Night Raid usually take the death of their comrades.... surprising well. Only Tatsumi, and to a lesser extend, Mine, seems to be the only ones to mourn [[spoiler: Chelsea's death]]. Nobody seem to give a crap about [[spoiler: Lubbock's death]], including Najenda, with exception of [[spoiler: keeping Luddock's goggles as a TragicKeepsake]]. Tatsumi doesn't seem all that bothered that [[spoiler: Mine died]] just one episode after [[spoiler: her]] death.
** Akame seems perfectly fine with the ideal [[spoiler: of living a life of isolation and loneliness]] by the end of the anime, as well as pretty much [[spoiler: losing all her friends.]] In manga, it's heavily implied that Akame has a fear of [[spoiler: losing all her friends and being alone]], as evident by the fact she nearly broke down crying at the idea of this in chapter 57.

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** During the second half of the anime, the surviving members of Night Raid usually take the death of their comrades.... surprising well. Only Tatsumi, and to a lesser extend, Mine, seems to be the only ones to mourn [[spoiler: Chelsea's [[spoiler:Chelsea's death]]. Nobody seem to give a crap about [[spoiler: Lubbock's [[spoiler:Lubbock's death]], including Najenda, with exception of [[spoiler: keeping [[spoiler:keeping Luddock's goggles as a TragicKeepsake]]. Tatsumi doesn't seem all that bothered that [[spoiler: Mine [[spoiler:Mine died]] just one episode after [[spoiler: her]] death.
[[spoiler:her]] death.
** Akame seems perfectly fine with the ideal [[spoiler: of [[spoiler:of living a life of isolation and loneliness]] by the end of the anime, as well as pretty much [[spoiler: losing [[spoiler:losing all her friends.]] friends]]. In manga, it's heavily implied that Akame has a fear of [[spoiler: losing [[spoiler:losing all her friends and being alone]], as evident by the fact she nearly broke down crying at the idea of this in chapter 57.



** Pretty much any antagonist after [[spoiler: Seryu's death]] can be considered as this. This includes[[spoiler: Syura, Budo, Kurome, Run, Honest, and (arguable) the emperor.]] Despite all being established as powerful threats and major players in the series, they all were defeated [[spoiler: (with the exception of Run, whose fight was dropped altogether)]] in less than one episode. While some of their fights are fairly decent, they ultimately fall short of the antagonist's creditability and built up. The worst offender of this in the anime is:
** [[spoiler: Esdeath]], of all people, is a special mention amongst the antagonists. [[spoiler: Throughout the series, Esdeath was built up as a nigh-invincible villain that can take on all of Night Raid at once. However, during the finale, Esdeath was defeated by ''just'' Akame in less than ''one'' episode. This is especially upsetting for manga readers, since it was established that if the rebellion has any chance of defeating Esdeath they will need 50,000 soldiers and ten teigu users "including" Akame, if they have any hope of defeating Esdeath.]]
*** This is owed partially to the fact that [[spoiler: Esdeath]] never faces an opponent who equals her in terms of strength and is content in feeling like "a hunter" just bullying less powerful people. She loses that quickly because she is just not used to being on equal footing with anyone, and, as [[spoiler: Akame]] points out, she is overconfident.

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** Pretty much any antagonist after [[spoiler: Seryu's [[spoiler:Seryu's death]] can be considered as this. This includes[[spoiler: Syura, includes [[spoiler:Syura, Budo, Kurome, Run, Honest, and (arguable) the emperor.]] emperor]]. Despite all being established as powerful threats and major players in the series, they all were defeated [[spoiler: (with [[spoiler:(with the exception of Run, whose fight was dropped altogether)]] in less than one episode. While some of their fights are fairly decent, they ultimately fall short of the antagonist's creditability and built up. The worst offender of this in the anime is:
** [[spoiler: Esdeath]], [[spoiler:Esdeath]], of all people, is a special mention amongst the antagonists. [[spoiler: Throughout [[spoiler:Throughout the series, Esdeath was built up as a nigh-invincible villain that can take on all of Night Raid at once. However, during the finale, Esdeath was defeated by ''just'' Akame in less than ''one'' episode. This is especially upsetting for manga readers, since it was established that if the rebellion has any chance of defeating Esdeath they will need 50,000 soldiers and ten teigu users "including" Akame, if they have any hope of defeating Esdeath.]]
Esdeath]].
*** This is owed partially to the fact that [[spoiler: Esdeath]] [[spoiler:Esdeath]] never faces an opponent who equals her in terms of strength and is content in feeling like "a hunter" just bullying less powerful people. She loses that quickly because she is just not used to being on equal footing with anyone, and, as [[spoiler: Akame]] [[spoiler:Akame]] points out, she is overconfident.



*** In the anime, Akame's [[spoiler: trump card]] definitely can be considered this. [[spoiler: What makes it an ass pull is the fact Akame stated in earlier episodes that her Murasame does not have a trump card. Also, if a trump card does exist, there was no indication of Akame trying to figure out what it is, or an foreshadowing of one existing. Also, if Akame did find out about Murasame's trump card, why did she not use it other situations when it was really needed. What makes the trump card so frustrating, is that there was no clear explanation on what its powers are and its limitations; it was just introduced as a DeusExMachina for Akame to use in her battle with Esdeath.]]
** In the anime, the giant experimental danger beast that came out of nowhere in the middle of [[spoiler: Akame and Kurome's final fight and destroyed Kurome's two most powerful puppets, Natala and Doya. Ultimately, it was just introduced as a way to give Akame the advantage she needed to defeat Kurome.]]

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*** In the anime, Akame's [[spoiler: trump [[spoiler:trump card]] definitely can be considered this. [[spoiler: What [[spoiler:What makes it an ass pull is the fact Akame stated in earlier episodes that her Murasame does not have a trump card. Also, if a trump card does exist, there was no indication of Akame trying to figure out what it is, or an foreshadowing of one existing. Also, if Akame did find out about Murasame's trump card, why did she not use it other situations when it was really needed. What makes the trump card so frustrating, is that there was no clear explanation on what its powers are and its limitations; it was just introduced as a DeusExMachina for Akame to use in her battle with Esdeath.]]
Esdeath]].
** In the anime, the giant experimental danger beast that came out of nowhere in the middle of [[spoiler: Akame [[spoiler:Akame and Kurome's final fight and destroyed Kurome's two most powerful puppets, Natala and Doya. Ultimately, it was just introduced as a way to give Akame the advantage she needed to defeat Kurome.]]Kurome]].



*** [[spoiler: Lubbock's death in the anime thanks to the Maid's actions. It looks like if the anime introduced the Maid, who only appeared during the episode where Lubbock dies, just to wound him and gave Syura a chance to introduce him in his pocket dimension, who was the thing that will finally cause Lubbock's demise.]]
*** However [[spoiler: Leone's]] death in the anime deserves an special mention for how ridiculous was. In first place, she corners [[spoiler: Honest and is about to kill him, but the Prime Minister use a Teigu ring that he hasn't wore before and uses it to destroy Lionelle and shoot Leone in the belly. Leone kills him anyway, but later she encounter Akame and after a brief talk she disappear in front Akame and go to an alley to die, when she could try to find a doctor to cure her wounds.]] The death felt so forced that many fans were pissed of the manner it was executed and called it a poor excuse to kill [[spoiler: Leone]] in the final episode.
** Prime Minister Honest's [[spoiler: Teigu Erastone which is a ring that can destroy any Teigu that the user chooses.]] A lot of viewers felt that the only reason that it was introduced is that [[spoiler: the writers needed a reason to kill off Leone since Lionelle's regeneration abilities make it hard for anyone or anything to kill her.]] Made even more apparent when in the previous episode Honest was being attacked by Akame and Tatsumi using Murasame and Incursio but [[spoiler: didn't think to use the ring to destroy those two especially since they'd be more of a threat to him then Lionelle.]] It can even be argued that Honest was better off [[spoiler: using it on Grand Chariot when Wave helped Tatsumi fight Shikoutazer given how annoyed he was at Wave's betrayal.]]

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*** [[spoiler: Lubbock's [[spoiler:Lubbock's death in the anime thanks to the Maid's actions. It looks like if the anime introduced the Maid, who only appeared during the episode where Lubbock dies, just to wound him and gave Syura a chance to introduce him in his pocket dimension, who was the thing that will finally cause Lubbock's demise.]]
demise]].
*** However [[spoiler: Leone's]] [[spoiler:Leone's]] death in the anime deserves an special mention for how ridiculous was. In first place, she corners [[spoiler: Honest [[spoiler:Honest and is about to kill him, but the Prime Minister use a Teigu ring that he hasn't wore before and uses it to destroy Lionelle and shoot Leone in the belly. Leone kills him anyway, but later she encounter Akame and after a brief talk she disappear in front Akame and go to an alley to die, when she could try to find a doctor to cure her wounds.]] wounds]]. The death felt so forced that many fans were pissed of the manner it was executed and called it a poor excuse to kill [[spoiler: Leone]] [[spoiler:Leone]] in the final episode.
** Prime Minister Honest's [[spoiler: Teigu [[spoiler:Teigu Erastone which is a ring that can destroy any Teigu that the user chooses.]] chooses]]. A lot of viewers felt that the only reason that it was introduced is that [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the writers needed a reason to kill off Leone since Lionelle's regeneration abilities make it hard for anyone or anything to kill her.]] her]]. Made even more apparent when in the previous episode Honest was being attacked by Akame and Tatsumi using Murasame and Incursio but [[spoiler: didn't [[spoiler:didn't think to use the ring to destroy those two especially since they'd be more of a threat to him then Lionelle.]] Lionelle]]. It can even be argued that Honest was better off [[spoiler: using [[spoiler:using it on Grand Chariot when Wave helped Tatsumi fight Shikoutazer given how annoyed he was at Wave's betrayal.]]betrayal]].



** On that note, [[spoiler: Kurome's death and Run's survival, which is the opposite of their status in the manga, to the point where it looks like [[HoYay Run is taking Kurome's place as part of a couple with Wave in the end.]] The issue certainly isn't helped given what Kurome did to Run in the manga, so fans of his who hate her are pleased with this while her fanbase that doesn't care about him are infuriated.]]

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** On that note, [[spoiler: Kurome's [[spoiler:Kurome's death and Run's survival, which is the opposite of their status in the manga, to the point where it looks like [[HoYay Run is taking Kurome's place as part of a couple with Wave in the end.]] end]]. The issue certainly isn't helped given what Kurome did to Run in the manga, so fans of his who hate her are pleased with this while her fanbase that doesn't care about him are infuriated.]]infuriated]].
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** Akame. Her fans view her as a BadassAdorable and enjoy her switching from a cute, awkward glutton to a hardened warrior. Her detractors find her dull in both characterization and battle for wielding a OneHitKill blade and gradually losing relevance despite being the titular heroine.

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** Akame. Her fans view her as a BadassAdorable and enjoy her switching from a cute, awkward glutton to a hardened warrior. Her detractors find her dull in both characterization and battle for wielding a OneHitKill blade and gradually losing relevance despite being the titular eponymous heroine.

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