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-->'''Adam''': Hey, Barry. Do you think that girl's hot?\\

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-->'''Adam''': Hey, Barry. Do you think that girl's hot?\\That girl was hot.\\
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'''Barry''': What are you talking about? That's my cousin.

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'''Barry''': What are you talking about? That's She's my cousin.
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** A florist cannot help sue another party in court. Vanessa is engaged in the unauthorized practice of law. She also doesn't properly handle the letter that starts the lawsuit (you have to go down to the courthouse in person to file the suit, you can't just stick an envelope in the mail), and it's also addressed to the "Superior Court of New York." The trial court for civil suits in New York State is known as the Supreme Court.[[note]]This is likely a result of the writers being based in Southern California, where the trial courts for civil matters known as "superior courts"[[/note]]

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** A florist cannot help sue another party in court. Vanessa is engaged in the unauthorized practice of law. She also doesn't properly handle the letter that starts the lawsuit (you have to go down to the courthouse in person to file the suit, you can't just stick an envelope in the mail), and it's also addressed to the "Superior Court of New York." The trial court for civil suits in New York State is known as the Supreme Court.[[note]]This is likely a result of the writers being based in Southern California, where the trial courts for civil matters are known as "superior courts"[[/note]]



-->'''Vanessa:''' ''(Looking down at two unconscious pilots)'' What happened here?
-->'''Barry:''' I tried to talk to them! But then there was a Dustbuster, a toupee, a life raft exploded! Now, one's bald, one's in a boat, and they're both unconscious!

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-->'''Vanessa:''' ''(Looking down at two unconscious pilots)'' What happened here?
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here?\\
'''Barry:'''
I tried to talk to them! But then there was a Dustbuster, a toupee, a life raft exploded! Now, one's bald, one's in a boat, and they're both unconscious!

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** A florist cannot help sue another party in court. Vanessa is engaged in the unauthorized practice of law. She also doesn't properly handle the letter that starts the lawsuit (either you or a process server have to personally go down to the courthouse to file the suit, you can't just stick it in the mail), and it's also addressed to the "Superior Court of New York," when the civil court in New York State is the Supreme Court[[note]]the movie writers, being in Southern California, probably got the terminology mixed up[[/note]].
** Barry Benson sues the five largest honey manufacturers on behalf of the bees they exploit. This is a class action lawsuit, where a few representative plaintiffs claim that they are representative of a larger class of people, and as a result, they claim that they should be able to prosecute the lawsuit on behalf of all of those people who are similarly affected. Going with the federal definition of a class action lawsuit, there are some requirements you have to meet before you're able to proceed further per Rule 23 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which requires:
*** 1) An adequate class definition. (They've defined the class as "all bees" - not all of whom have had their honey taken)
*** 2) That the class be ascertainable. (There are billions, if not trillions of bees out there, and there is no way to identify the individually affected bees)
*** 3) That there must be numerosity, in other words, a lot of people (this is the only criterion met).
*** 4) There must be commonality amongst all of the class members. (Different bees are treated differently by the honey manufacturing companies)
*** 5) There must be typicality between the representative plaintiffs and the class members. (Barry Benson's hive isn't a commercial one for honey harvesting, and thus Barry isn't typical of the bees affected)
*** 6) Adequacy of counsel. (Barry's not even a lawyer, so he can't even proceed with this proceeding, let alone adequately represent the actual class members that he's trying to move forward with.)

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** A florist cannot help sue another party in court. Vanessa is engaged in the unauthorized practice of law. She also doesn't properly handle the letter that starts the lawsuit (either you or a process server (you have to personally go down to the courthouse in person to file the suit, you can't just stick it an envelope in the mail), and it's also addressed to the "Superior Court of New York," when the York." The trial court for civil court suits in New York State is known as the Supreme Court[[note]]the movie writers, Court.[[note]]This is likely a result of the writers being based in Southern California, probably got where the terminology mixed up[[/note]].
trial courts for civil matters known as "superior courts"[[/note]]
** Barry Benson sues the five largest honey manufacturers on behalf of the bees they exploit. This is a class action lawsuit, where a few representative plaintiffs claim that they are representative of a larger class of people, and as a result, they claim thus believe that they should be able to prosecute the lawsuit on behalf of all of those people who are similarly affected. Going with Per the federal definition of a class action lawsuit, there are some requirements you that have to meet be met before you're able to they can proceed further per Rule 23 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which requires:
such as:
*** 1) An There needs to be an adequate class definition. (They've defined the class as "all ("All bees" - is not an adequate class definition, especially that not all of whom bees have had their honey taken)
*** 2) That the The class needs to be ascertainable. (There are billions, if not trillions of bees out there, and (With how large the bees' population is, there is no way to identify the individually affected bees)
*** 3) That there must There needs to be numerosity, in other words, a lot numerosity to the size of people (this the class. (This is the only criterion met).
met)
*** 4) There must needs to be commonality amongst all of the class members. (Different bees are treated differently by the honey manufacturing companies)
*** 5) There must needs to be typicality between the representative plaintiffs and the class members. (Barry Benson's hive isn't a commercial one for honey harvesting, and thus Barry isn't typical of the bees affected)
affected, as his hive is an urban hive in the middle of Manhattan, not a commercial one for honey harvesting)
*** 6) Adequacy of counsel. (Barry's (Barry is not even a lawyer, so he can't even proceed with this proceeding, let alone adequately represent the actual class members that he's trying to move forward with.)



** This lawsuit goes straight to trial rather quickly, completely ignoring the years of pretrial discovery and motion practice that would have to happen first.
** The trial is held with a jury. However, the judge ultimately declares her verdict without consulting the jury, making their presence completely arbitrary.
** When the defense presents their opening statements and case before the plaintiff does (when the plaintiff outlines what the matters in contention are), there's an obvious logical, let alone legal, problem:
*** Montgomery goes straight from the counsel table directly into the well of the court and then goes straight at the jury. Judges and juries really hate it when lawyers invade the personal space of the jury, and if you are aggressive about it, the bailiff ''will'' tackle you. His opening statement is also a completely improper argument that should be stricken from the record.
*** Same goes for Barry. Sorry, Barry, you don't get to fly straight from the counsel table directly to the ledge in front of the jury and then give your opening statement. You're invading the personal space of the jury.
** During the direct examination of Mr. Klauss Vanderhayden of Honey Farms and Barry's questions about why he uses honey jars shaped like bears, the opposing counsel ''really'' should've been objecting for relevance repeatedly.
*** To demonstrate how the bear as the shape of a honey jar is offensive ("BEARS KILL BEES"), Barry has a muzzled grizzly bear brought into the courtroom. In addition to being completely irrelevant to the court proceedings, it goes without saying that when you bring a demonstrative into court, it cannot be a lethal animal, or probably any animal at all except for service dogs.
** During Montgomery's effort to grill Barry about his relationship with Vanessa, people and bees should be interrupting with "Objection, relevance" and "objection, argumentative".
** One of the reasons we have a legal system in the first place is so that we don't have to rely on violence to solve our problems. Yet, Adam, as bee co-counsel, gives in to his aggression and attacks the opposing counsel with his venomous stinger. He should be disbarred for that. And there is absolutely no way that he would be allowed to sit at the counsel table anymore. He would be arrested, and the judge would probably have to declare a mistrial because of the outburst that occurred because it's not fair to either party to have to proceed with a tainted jury as a result of Adam's bad conduct in assaulting the opposing counsel.
** The court case is done in a courtroom in New York City, rather than the Supreme Court of the United States which is in the district of Columbia, which borders Virginia and Maryland, not the state of New York. Ergo, any patent rights the bees are granted wouldn't be applied to the rest of the United States, let alone the other nations in North America (e.g. Canada and Mexico).
** The way the judge up and decides the case is also a major stretch. The judge cannot decide in the middle of the court case to just grant the verdict in favor of the plaintiffs. This would be overturned on appeal immediately because the defendants have been denied their due process.

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** This lawsuit goes straight to trial rather quickly, completely ignoring skipping over the many years of pretrial discovery discovery, depositions and motion practice motions that would have to happen first.
** The trial is held with a jury. However, the judge ultimately declares her verdict without consulting the jury, making their presence completely arbitrary.
** When the defense presents their opening statements and case before the plaintiff does (when the plaintiff outlines what the matters in contention are), there's an obvious logical, let alone legal, problem:
***
Mr. Montgomery goes straight from the counsel table directly into the well of the court courtroom and then goes straight at gets way too close to the jury. Judges and juries really hate it when lawyers invade the personal space jury box, which is a serious breach of the jury, and if you are aggressive about it, the bailiff ''will'' tackle you. courtroom etiquette. His opening statement is also a completely improper argument that should would probably be stricken from the record.
*** Same goes for Barry. Sorry, Barry, you don't get to fly straight
record. Barry commits the same breach of courtroom etiquette as Mr. Montgomery when he flies from the counsel table directly over to the ledge partition in front of the jury and then give your box to deliver his opening statement. You're invading the personal space of the jury.
statement.
** During the direct examination of Mr. Klauss Vanderhayden of Honey Farms and Barry's questions about why he uses honey jars shaped like bears, the opposing counsel ''really'' should've been objecting for relevance repeatedly.
*** To
repeatedly. Then, to demonstrate how the bear as the shape of a honey bees find this jar is design offensive ("BEARS KILL BEES"), Barry has a muzzled grizzly bear brought into the courtroom. In addition to being completely Not only is this irrelevant to the court proceedings, but it goes without saying that when you bring a demonstrative into court, it demonstratives cannot be a lethal animal, or probably any animal at all except for service dogs.
animal.
** During Mr. Montgomery's effort to grill Barry about his relationship with Vanessa, people and bees should be interrupting with "Objection, relevance" and "objection, argumentative".
** One Mr. Montgomery's examination of the reasons we have a legal system in the first place is so that we don't have to rely on violence to solve our problems. Yet, Adam, as bee co-counsel, Barry gets heated, and Adam eventually gives in to into his aggression and attacks the opposing counsel with his venomous stinger. He should be disbarred for that. And there stings him, which is absolutely no way technically assault. After such an outburst, it's unlikely that he Adam would even be allowed to sit at attend court for the counsel table anymore. He would be arrested, and rest of the trial. In fact, it's likely the judge would probably have to declare a mistrial because of it would be unfair to both the outburst that occurred because it's not fair to either party to have defendants and the plaintiffs to proceed with a tainted jury as a result of Adam's bad conduct in assaulting the opposing counsel.
jury.
** The court case is done in a courtroom in New York City, rather than the Supreme Court of the United States which is in the district of Columbia, which borders Virginia and Maryland, not the state of New York. Ergo, Washington, D.C.; as a result, any patent rights the bees are granted wouldn't be applied applicable to the rest of the United States, let alone the other nations in North America (e.g. Canada and Mexico).
** The way trial is held with a jury. However, the judge up and decides ultimately declares her verdict without consulting the case is also a major stretch. The jury, making their presence completely arbitrary. Not to mention, the judge cannot decide in the middle of the court case to just grant the verdict rule in favor of the plaintiffs. This would be overturned on appeal immediately because the defendants have been denied their due process.



*** The winners of a lawsuit are generally entitled to monetary compensation. You can sometimes be rewarded with the actual physical property that you feel you are entitled to, per specific performance. But that's primarily seen in real estate cases. If it's possible to give financial compensation, the court almost always will give financial compensation. And there's no reason that the bees couldn't be given financial compensation instead of a return of all of the honey.[[note]]Though they might argue that honey is their form of currency[[/note]] On top of that, all of the things that they are getting in this potential settlement would never be given by the court.
*** "We will no longer tolerate derogatory bee-negative nicknames" probably violates the First Amendment right to free speech.
*** We see federal agents seizing honey from a woman on the street using it as a tea sweetener. There's no reason why an injunction would be granted to prevent people from using honey that's already in the stream of commerce.

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*** The winners of If the plaintiffs prevail in a lawsuit are lawsuit, generally they are entitled to monetary compensation. You And in some cases, they can sometimes be rewarded with the actual physical property (though that you feel you are entitled to, per specific performance. But that's primarily is largely seen in real estate cases. cases). If it's possible to give financial compensation, the court almost always will give financial compensation.go that way. And there's no reason that the bees couldn't be given financial compensation instead of a return of all of the honey.[[note]]Though they might argue [[note]]Unless they're arguing that honey is their form of currency[[/note]] On top of that, all many of the other things that they are getting in this potential settlement would never likely not be given by the court.
granted in real life.
*** "We will no longer tolerate derogatory bee-negative nicknames" probably violates - and Sting being arrested for this alone - oversteps the First Amendment right to free speech.
*** We see federal agents seizing honey from a woman on the street using it as a tea sweetener. There's sweetener, with no reason why indication that an injunction would be was granted to prevent people from using stop the consumption of honey that's already in the stream of commerce.circulation.



-->'''Barry''': I love the smell of flowers!
-->'''Ken''': Oh, yeah? How do you like the smell of ''FLAMES?!'' (''holds up a lighter in front of the perfume spray'')
-->'''Barry''': [[OhCrap Not as much!]]

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-->'''Barry''': I love the smell of flowers!
-->'''Ken''':
flowers!\\
'''Ken''':
Oh, yeah? How do you like the smell of ''FLAMES?!'' (''holds up a lighter in front of the perfume spray'')
-->'''Barry''':
spray'')\\
'''Barry''':
[[OhCrap Not as much!]]



-->'''Adam''': Hey, Barry. Do you think that girl's hot?
-->'''Barry''': What are you talking about? That's my cousin.

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-->'''Adam''': Hey, Barry. Do you think that girl's hot?
-->'''Barry''':
hot?\\
'''Barry''':
What are you talking about? That's my cousin.
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->''"I will auction you right outta here! I wanna be a bee!"''
-->-- '''Creator/JerrySeinfeld''' [[SelfDeprecation promoting]] the film

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->''"I will auction you right outta here! I wanna ->''According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee should be a bee!"''
able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground.''
->''The bee, of course, flies anyway. Because bees don't care what humans think is impossible.''
-->-- '''Creator/JerrySeinfeld''' [[SelfDeprecation promoting]] the film
The opening narration
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-->'''Barry:''' You know there's a Larry King in the Human world too!

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-->'''Barry:''' [[LampshadeHanging You know there's a Larry King in the Human world too!too!]]
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** The opening monologue about it being logically impossible for Bees to fly was based on a scientific argument... In UsefulNotes/TheThirties. Later scientific discoveries and understandings explain exactly why Bees are able to fly, but it's less funny that way.

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** The opening monologue about it being logically impossible for Bees to fly was based on a scientific argument... In UsefulNotes/TheThirties.TheThirties. Later scientific discoveries and understandings explain exactly why Bees are able to fly, but it's less funny that way.
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** The opening monologue about it being logically impossible for Bees to fly was based on a scientific argument... In UsefulNotes/TheThirties. Later scientific discoveries and understandings explain exactly why Bees are able to fly, but it's less funny that way.
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** The trial is held with a jury. However, the judge ultimately declares her verdict without consulting the jury, making their presence completely arbitrary.
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* HollywoodLaw: The whole "sue humanity because they're stealing honey from bees" is done in a way that doesn't work. Apart from all the "they're just animals" issues being done away with (legally, bees are chattel, owned by humans who are legally permitted to reap their produce), there's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y0F7zZ_Ws0 enough to fill a video]]:

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* HollywoodLaw: The whole "sue humanity because they're stealing honey from bees" is done in a way that doesn't work. Apart from all the "they're just animals" issues being done away with (legally, bees are chattel, owned by humans who are legally permitted to reap their produce), there's enough to fill a WebVideo/LegalEagle [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y0F7zZ_Ws0 enough to fill a video]]:



*** Montgomery goes straight from counsel table directly into the well of the court, and then goes straight at the jury. Judges and juries really hate it when lawyers invade the personal space of the jury, and if you are aggressive about it, the bailiff ''will'' tackle you. His opening statement is also completely improper argument that should be stricken from the record.
*** Same goes for Barry. Sorry, Barry, you don't get to fly straight from counsel table directly to the ledge in front of the jury and then give your opening statement. You're invading the personal space of the jury.

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*** Montgomery goes straight from the counsel table directly into the well of the court, court and then goes straight at the jury. Judges and juries really hate it when lawyers invade the personal space of the jury, and if you are aggressive about it, the bailiff ''will'' tackle you. His opening statement is also a completely improper argument that should be stricken from the record.
*** Same goes for Barry. Sorry, Barry, you don't get to fly straight from the counsel table directly to the ledge in front of the jury and then give your opening statement. You're invading the personal space of the jury.



** During Montgomery's effort to grill Barry about his relation with Vanessa, people and bees should be interrupting with "Objection, relevance" and "objection, argumentative".
** One of the reasons we have a legal system in the first place is so that we don't have to rely on violence to solve our problems. Yet, Adam, as bee co-counsel, gives in to his aggression and attacks the opposing counsel with his venomous stinger. He should be disbarred for that. And there is absolutely no way that he would be allowed to sit at counsel table anymore. He would be arrested, and the judge would probably have to declare a mistrial because of the outburst that occurred because it's not fair to either party to have to proceed with a tainted jury as a result of Adam's bad conduct in assaulting the opposing counsel.

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** During Montgomery's effort to grill Barry about his relation relationship with Vanessa, people and bees should be interrupting with "Objection, relevance" and "objection, argumentative".
** One of the reasons we have a legal system in the first place is so that we don't have to rely on violence to solve our problems. Yet, Adam, as bee co-counsel, gives in to his aggression and attacks the opposing counsel with his venomous stinger. He should be disbarred for that. And there is absolutely no way that he would be allowed to sit at the counsel table anymore. He would be arrested, and the judge would probably have to declare a mistrial because of the outburst that occurred because it's not fair to either party to have to proceed with a tainted jury as a result of Adam's bad conduct in assaulting the opposing counsel.



*** The winners of a lawsuit are generally entitled to monetary compensation. You can sometimes be rewarded with actual physical property that you feel you are entitled to, per specific performance. But that's primarily seen in real estate cases. If it's possible to give financial compensation, the court almost always will give financial compensation. And there's no reason that the bees couldn't be given financial compensation instead of a return of all of the honey.[[note]]Though they might argue that honey is their form of currency[[/note]] On top of that, all of the things that they are getting in this potential settlement would never be given by the court.

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*** The winners of a lawsuit are generally entitled to monetary compensation. You can sometimes be rewarded with the actual physical property that you feel you are entitled to, per specific performance. But that's primarily seen in real estate cases. If it's possible to give financial compensation, the court almost always will give financial compensation. And there's no reason that the bees couldn't be given financial compensation instead of a return of all of the honey.[[note]]Though they might argue that honey is their form of currency[[/note]] On top of that, all of the things that they are getting in this potential settlement would never be given by the court.
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** It is biologically impossible for a bee to survive stinging a man and having the stinger replaced with a plastic sword.

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** It is biologically impossible for a bee to survive stinging a man and having the stinger replaced with a plastic sword. Particularly notable because the movie itself brings up the fact that bees die if they sting someone.
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* AgainstTheGrain: After graduating, Barry realises he's doomed to a life of non-stop labor and questions the role he's been born into. When he decides he doesn't want to work for the hive, his parents grow concerned and question his motives, especially after he reveals he's befriended a human. The trope is somewhat subverted, as the other bees adapt Barry's ethics and stop producing honey, resulting in catastrophic effects on the environment. Barry realises he shouldn't have meddled with the status quo.

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* HollywoodLaw
** The whole "sue humanity because they're stealing honey from bees" is done in a way that doesn't work. Apart from all the "they're just animals" issues being done away with (legally, bees are chattel, owned by humans who are legally permitted to reap their produce), there's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y0F7zZ_Ws0 enough to fill a video]]:
** A florist cannot help sue another party in court. Vanessa is engaged in the unauthorized practice of law. She also doesn't properly handle the letter that starts the lawsuit (you or a process server have to personally go down to the courthouse to file the suit, you can't just stick it in the mail), and it's also addressed to the "Superior Court of New York," when the civil court in New York State is the Supreme Court[[note]]the movie writers, being in Southern California, probably got the terminology mixed up[[/note]].

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* HollywoodLaw
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HollywoodLaw: The whole "sue humanity because they're stealing honey from bees" is done in a way that doesn't work. Apart from all the "they're just animals" issues being done away with (legally, bees are chattel, owned by humans who are legally permitted to reap their produce), there's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y0F7zZ_Ws0 enough to fill a video]]:
** A florist cannot help sue another party in court. Vanessa is engaged in the unauthorized practice of law. She also doesn't properly handle the letter that starts the lawsuit (you (either you or a process server have to personally go down to the courthouse to file the suit, you can't just stick it in the mail), and it's also addressed to the "Superior Court of New York," when the civil court in New York State is the Supreme Court[[note]]the movie writers, being in Southern California, probably got the terminology mixed up[[/note]].



*** 3) That there must be numerosity, in other words, a lot of people. (This is the only criterion met)

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*** 3) That there must be numerosity, in other words, a lot of people. (This people (this is the only criterion met)met).



*** Same goes for Barry. Sorry, Barry, you don't get to fly straight from counsel table directly to the ledge in front of the jury and then give your opening statement. You're invading the personal space of the jury. And, no, the jury doesn't have any trouble hearing you, [[AcousticLicense evidently]].

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*** Same goes for Barry. Sorry, Barry, you don't get to fly straight from counsel table directly to the ledge in front of the jury and then give your opening statement. You're invading the personal space of the jury. And, no, the jury doesn't have any trouble hearing you, [[AcousticLicense evidently]].



** One of the reasons we have a legal system in the first place is so that we don't have to rely on violence to solve our problems. Yet, Adam, as bee co-counsel, gives in to his aggression and attacks the opposing counsel with his venomous stinger. He should be disbarred for that. And there is absolutely no way that he would be allowed to sit at counsel table anymore. He would be arrested, and the judge would probably have to declare a mistrial because of the outburst that occurred, because it's not fair to either party to have to proceed with a tainted jury as a result of Adam's bad conduct in assaulting the opposing counsel.
** The court case is done in a courtroom in New York City, rather than the Supreme Court of the United States which is in the district of Columbia, which borders Virginia and Maryland, not the state of New York. Ergo, any patent rights the bees are granted wouldn't be applied to the rest of the United States, let alone the other nations in North America, Canada and Mexico.

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** One of the reasons we have a legal system in the first place is so that we don't have to rely on violence to solve our problems. Yet, Adam, as bee co-counsel, gives in to his aggression and attacks the opposing counsel with his venomous stinger. He should be disbarred for that. And there is absolutely no way that he would be allowed to sit at counsel table anymore. He would be arrested, and the judge would probably have to declare a mistrial because of the outburst that occurred, occurred because it's not fair to either party to have to proceed with a tainted jury as a result of Adam's bad conduct in assaulting the opposing counsel.
** The court case is done in a courtroom in New York City, rather than the Supreme Court of the United States which is in the district of Columbia, which borders Virginia and Maryland, not the state of New York. Ergo, any patent rights the bees are granted wouldn't be applied to the rest of the United States, let alone the other nations in North America, America (e.g. Canada and Mexico.Mexico).
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** It is biologically impossible for a bee to survive stinging a man and surviving by replacing the stinger with a plastic sword.

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** It is biologically impossible for a bee to survive stinging a man and surviving by replacing having the stinger replaced with a plastic sword.



* HollywoodLaw:

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* HollywoodLaw: HollywoodLaw
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** A bee stinging a man and surviving by replacing the stinger with a plastic sword.
** The whole bit about pollination; the moment the bees stop pollinating, every plant dies despite the fact that lack of pollination would only stop new flowers from being made, and plants would live as normal (especially obvious with the trees that would still live for years), and the pollen being reintroduced bringing them all back to life. Also, it is impossible to pollinate most flowers with pollen from other species. Furthermore, even if the bees stop, there's still the hummingbirds/butterflies/etc to pollinate as well. Losing every bee would be catastrophic (especially for farming), but bees don't have dibs on all pollination. In fact, many species don't even need animals at all, relying on the wind alone for pollination, and would be perfectly fine and ordinary.

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** A It is biologically impossible for a bee to survive stinging a man and surviving by replacing the stinger with a plastic sword.
** The whole bit about pollination; Plants don't wither and die if they're not pollinated; the moment the bees stop pollinating, every plant dies despite the fact that lack of pollination would only stop new flowers from being made, and plants would live as normal (especially obvious with the trees that would still live for years), and the pollen being reintroduced bringing them all back to life.years). Also, it is impossible to pollinate most flowers with pollen from other species. Furthermore, even if the bees stop, there's still the hummingbirds/butterflies/etc to pollinate as well. Losing every bee would be catastrophic (especially for farming), but bees don't have dibs on all pollination. In fact, many species don't even need animals at all, relying on the wind alone for pollination, and would be perfectly fine and ordinary.
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* TalkShowAppearance: During his crusade to sue humanity, Barry goes on "Bee Creator/LarryKing" to promote his ideas, and also tells the bee host about his human counterpart.
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** A florist cannot help sue another party in court. Vanessa is engaged in the unauthorized practice of law. She also doesn't properly handle the letter that starts the lawsuit (you or a process server have to personally go down to the courthouse to file the suit, you can't just stick in the mail), and it's also addressed to the "Superior Court of New York," when the civil court in New York State is the Supreme Court[[note]]the movie writers, being in Southern California, probably got the terminology mixed up[[/note]].

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** A florist cannot help sue another party in court. Vanessa is engaged in the unauthorized practice of law. She also doesn't properly handle the letter that starts the lawsuit (you or a process server have to personally go down to the courthouse to file the suit, you can't just stick it in the mail), and it's also addressed to the "Superior Court of New York," when the civil court in New York State is the Supreme Court[[note]]the movie writers, being in Southern California, probably got the terminology mixed up[[/note]].
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** A bee stinging a man and surviving by replacing the stinger with a plastic sword,.
** The whole bit about pollination; the moment the bees stop pollinating, every plant dies despite the fact that pollination would only stop new flowers from being made, and plants would live as normal (especially obvious with the trees that would still live for years), and the pollen being reintroduced bringing them all back to life. Also, it is impossible to pollinate most flowers with pollen from other species. Furthermore, even if the bees stop, there's still the hummingbirds/butterflies/etc to pollinate as well. Losing every bee would be catastrophic (especially for farming), but bees don't have dibs on all pollination. In fact, many species don't even need animals at all, relying on the wind alone for pollination, and would be perfectly fine and ordinary.

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** A bee stinging a man and surviving by replacing the stinger with a plastic sword,.
sword.
** The whole bit about pollination; the moment the bees stop pollinating, every plant dies despite the fact that lack of pollination would only stop new flowers from being made, and plants would live as normal (especially obvious with the trees that would still live for years), and the pollen being reintroduced bringing them all back to life. Also, it is impossible to pollinate most flowers with pollen from other species. Furthermore, even if the bees stop, there's still the hummingbirds/butterflies/etc to pollinate as well. Losing every bee would be catastrophic (especially for farming), but bees don't have dibs on all pollination. In fact, many species don't even need animals at all, relying on the wind alone for pollination, and would be perfectly fine and ordinary.
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* FantasticAesop: The first acts seem to be preaching against human exploitation of animals, and that it's wrong to take bees' honey...but then it acknowledges bees make much more honey than they could ever use, and that bees not needing a reason to pollinate would be completely and utterly ''catastrophic'' for the planet. So, by the end, the message can best be summed up as "Humans should use and appreciate honey, but they should probably discuss it with the sapient, talking bees first."

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* FantasticAesop: The first acts seem to be preaching against human exploitation of animals, and that it's wrong to take bees' honey...but then it acknowledges bees make much more honey than they could ever use, and that bees not needing a reason to pollinate would be completely and utterly ''catastrophic'' for the planet. So, by the end, the message can best be summed up as "Humans should use and appreciate honey, but they should probably discuss it with the sapient, talking bees first."

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* FantasticAesop: The first acts seem to be preaching an aesop against human exploitation of animals, but then flips the message around in the ending act. It's okay to eat honey as long as it comes from sapient bees that give you permission.

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* FantasticAesop: The first acts seem to be preaching an aesop against human exploitation of animals, and that it's wrong to take bees' honey...but then flips it acknowledges bees make much more honey than they could ever use, and that bees not needing a reason to pollinate would be completely and utterly ''catastrophic'' for the planet. So, by the end, the message around in can best be summed up as "Humans should use and appreciate honey, but they should probably discuss it with the ending act. It's okay to eat honey as long as it comes from sapient sapient, talking bees that give you permission.first."



* ScienceMarchesOn: ''At the time'', we actually didn't know how bees flew. Since the movie came out, however, we've figured out. Turns out wings need to flex, like bee wings ''do'', and you can't just use a pair of rigid boards as wings.

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** Layton T. Montgomery. Even hammier after being stung. Thanks to being voiced by Creator/JohnGoodman.
** Ken... voiced by Creator/PatrickWarburton, no less.

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** Layton T. Montgomery. Even He's even hammier after being stung.stung because he deliberately makes it more dramatic. Thanks to being voiced by Creator/JohnGoodman.
** Ken... is very enthusiastic when he speaks, and has a tendency for bad puns during violence. He is voiced by Creator/PatrickWarburton, no less.



* SeriousBusiness: The montage where [[spoiler:the honey is reclaimed. The ATHF holds a little old woman stirring honey into her tea ''at gunpoint''.]]
** They [[spoiler:even shoot ''Franchise/WinnieThePooh'' with a tranquilizer dart! Pooh's adventures will [[NothingIsTheSameAnymore never be the same anymore]].]]

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* SeriousBusiness: The montage where [[spoiler:the honey is reclaimed. The ATHF holds a little old woman stirring honey into her tea ''at gunpoint''.]]
**
]] They [[spoiler:even shoot ''Franchise/WinnieThePooh'' with a tranquilizer dart! Pooh's adventures will [[NothingIsTheSameAnymore never be the same anymore]].anymore.]]



* WearingItAllWrong: Exploited when Ken puts winter boots on his hands to try and kill Barry with.

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* WearingItAllWrong: Exploited when Ken puts winter boots on his hands to try and tries to kill Barry with.with them.

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* HumansAreTheRealMonsters
** Especially jarring with the two guys who seem to work at the honey plant just because they enjoy sadistically torturing bees.
*** It might just be those guys, to be honest, but those are the only two workers Barry sees, which might contribute to the whole thing.

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* HumansAreTheRealMonsters
** Especially
HumansAreTheRealMonsters: Part of Barry's case is how humans treat bees horribly, such as using a smoker to incapacitate them before removing honey. It is especially jarring with the two guys who seem to work at the honey plant just because they enjoy sadistically torturing bees.
***
bees. It might just be those guys, to be honest, but those are the only two workers Barry sees, which might contribute to the whole thing.



** Male bees don't sting. The stinger is a modified ovipositor that only female worker bees have.
*** On top of that, there's no such thing as a male worker. In a beehive (as well as an anthill and a wasp's nest), all of the grunt work is done by infertile females. This includes pollinating, which the movie shows male bees doing. Really, the only purpose of a male bee in real life is to mate with the queen, then die.
* InterspeciesRomance: Barry and Vanessa. Not to mention Barry's uncle and the cricket in [[UsefulNotes/OtherCitiesInTexas San Antonio]].

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** Male bees don't sting. The stinger is a modified ovipositor that only female worker bees have. \n*** On top of that, there's no such thing as a male worker. In a beehive (as well as an anthill and a wasp's nest), all of the grunt work is done by infertile females. This includes pollinating, which the movie shows male bees doing. Really, the only purpose of a male bee in real life is to mate with the queen, then die.
* InterspeciesRomance: InterspeciesRomance:
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Barry and Vanessa. Not It leads to mention "bedbug" jokes.
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Barry's uncle and the cricket in [[UsefulNotes/OtherCitiesInTexas San Antonio]].



* JerkJock: Averted. Early in the movie there's a scene where it looks like the pollen jockeys are going to turn out to be like this, inviting Barry along on their next scheduled nectar run to mess with him, but when he actually shows up, they're perfectly happy to show him the ropes and are quite personable about the whole thing.

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* JerkJock: JerkJock:
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Averted. Early in the movie there's a scene where it looks like the pollen jockeys are going to turn out to be like this, nasty and arrogant, inviting Barry along on their next scheduled nectar run to mess with him, but when he actually shows up, they're perfectly happy to show him the ropes and are quite personable about the whole thing.

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* AcousticLicense: There are ''numerous'' cases when you have to wonder how is it possible that everyone can hear a tiny bee crystal clear, no matter the distance. It gets especially stupid during Barry's speeches in the court, where he doesn't use a microphone or anything like that, and yet everyone can perfectly hear him.
** And on a related note, when Barry [[spoiler:gets promoted to a Pollen Jockey and puts on his new uniform]], Vanessa can perfectly see it. Despite Barry standing on top of a plane's wing and Vanessa standing probably a good distance away.

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* AcousticLicense: AcousticLicense: There are ''numerous'' cases when you have to wonder how is it possible that everyone can hear a tiny bee crystal clear, no matter the distance. It gets especially stupid egregious during Barry's speeches in the court, where he doesn't use a microphone or anything like that, and yet everyone can perfectly hear him.
** And on a related note, when Barry [[spoiler:gets promoted to a Pollen Jockey and puts on his new uniform]], Vanessa can perfectly see it. Despite Barry standing on top of a plane's wing and Vanessa standing probably a good distance away.
him.



** A bee stinging a man and surviving by replacing the stinger with a plastic sword, and the whole bit about pollination; the moment the bees stop pollinating, every plant dies despite the fact that pollination would only stop new flowers from being made, and plants would live as normal (especially obvious with the trees that would still live for years), and the pollen being reintroduced bringing them all back to life. Also, it is impossible to pollinate most flowers with pollen from other species.
** Even if the bees stop, there's still the hummingbirds/butterflies/etc to pollinate as well. Losing every bee would be catastrophic (especially for farming), but bees don't have dibs on all pollination. In fact, many species don't even need animals at all, relying on the wind alone for pollination, and would be perfectly fine and ordinary.

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** A bee stinging a man and surviving by replacing the stinger with a plastic sword, and the sword,.
** The
whole bit about pollination; the moment the bees stop pollinating, every plant dies despite the fact that pollination would only stop new flowers from being made, and plants would live as normal (especially obvious with the trees that would still live for years), and the pollen being reintroduced bringing them all back to life. Also, it is impossible to pollinate most flowers with pollen from other species.
** Even
species. Furthermore, even if the bees stop, there's still the hummingbirds/butterflies/etc to pollinate as well. Losing every bee would be catastrophic (especially for farming), but bees don't have dibs on all pollination. In fact, many species don't even need animals at all, relying on the wind alone for pollination, and would be perfectly fine and ordinary.



* HollywoodLaw: The whole "sue humanity because they're stealing honey from bees" is done in a way that doesn't work. Apart from all the "they're just animals" issues being done away with (legally, bees are chattel, owned by humans who are legally permitted to reap their produce), there's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y0F7zZ_Ws0 enough to fill a video]]:

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* HollywoodLaw: HollywoodLaw:
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The whole "sue humanity because they're stealing honey from bees" is done in a way that doesn't work. Apart from all the "they're just animals" issues being done away with (legally, bees are chattel, owned by humans who are legally permitted to reap their produce), there's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y0F7zZ_Ws0 enough to fill a video]]:



*** Same goes for Barry. Sorry, Barry, you don't get to fly straight from counsel table directly to the ledge in front of the jury and then give your opening statement. You're invading the personal space of the jury.

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*** Same goes for Barry. Sorry, Barry, you don't get to fly straight from counsel table directly to the ledge in front of the jury and then give your opening statement. You're invading the personal space of the jury. And, no, the jury doesn't have any trouble hearing you, [[AcousticLicense evidently]].

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''Bee Movie'' is a 2007 CGI animated feature film produced by Creator/DreamWorksAnimation and co-written by and starring Creator/JerrySeinfeld. Barry B. Benson (Seinfeld), a bee who has just graduated from college, is disillusioned at his lone career choice: making honey. On a special trip outside the hive, Barry is rescued by Vanessa Bloome (Creator/ReneeZellweger), a florist in New York City. As their relationship [[JustForPun blossoms]], Barry discovers that humans actually eat honey, and subsequently decides to sue us.

[[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext Yep, that's the entire movie.]]

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''Bee Movie'' is a 2007 CGI animated feature film produced by Creator/DreamWorksAnimation and co-written by and starring Creator/JerrySeinfeld. Barry B. Benson (Seinfeld), a bee who has just graduated from college, is disillusioned at his lone career choice: making honey. On a special trip outside the hive, Barry is rescued by Vanessa Bloome (Creator/ReneeZellweger), a florist in New York City. As their relationship [[JustForPun blossoms]], Barry discovers that humans actually eat honey, and subsequently take honey from bee hives without asking, thus stealing it. He decides to sue us.

[[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext Yep, that's the entire movie.]]
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* ItOnlyWorksOnce: At Honex, once you pick your job, you stay with that job forever with no way out of it.

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** Music/{{Sting}} (the singer) gets arrested for his stage name since it's a bee-thing. Sorry, but the wasps, bumblebees, mud daubers, yellow jackets, stingrays, hornets, scorpions, platypi, and jellyfish would like to have a word.
*** Not to mention it has connotations outside of the animal kingdom.
*** Especially baffling as the name "Sting" is actually trademarked to professional wrestler [[Wrestling/{{Sting}} Steve Borden]], who has the AnimalMotif of a scorpion.

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** Music/{{Sting}} (the singer) gets arrested for his stage name since it's a bee-thing. Sorry, but the wasps, bee thing. Wasps, bumblebees, mud daubers, yellow jackets, stingrays, hornets, scorpions, platypi, and jellyfish would like to have a word.
*** Not to mention it has connotations outside
word, and that's just inside of the animal kingdom.
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kingdom. Especially baffling as the name "Sting" is actually trademarked to professional wrestler [[Wrestling/{{Sting}} Steve Borden]], who has the AnimalMotif of a scorpion.

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* DreamRealityCheck: Vanessa stabs the back of her hand with a fork to wake herself up when Barry talks to her for the first time. But it's not a dream.



* DreamRealityCheck: Vanessa stabs the back of her hand with a fork to wake herself up when Barry talks to her for the first time. But it's not a dream.

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* DreamRealityCheck: Vanessa stabs the back of her hand with a fork to wake herself up when Barry talks to her for the first time. But it's not a dream.



* PinchMe: Vanessa stabs the back of her hand with a fork to wake herself up when Barry talks to her for the first time. But it's not a dream.
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* BMovie: In addition to the PunBasedTitle, the film unabashedly satirizes no less than five separate genres over the course of its runtime (family, romance, court drama, disaster, action) with the explicit intention by the writers to be as out-there as possible.
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*** 1) An adequate class definition. (They've defined the class as all bees. Not all of whom have had their honey taken)

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*** 1) An adequate class definition. (They've defined the class as all bees. Not "all bees" - not all of whom have had their honey taken)

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