History WMG / Venom2018

It's been more or less confirmed that venom 2 [[http://collider.com/venom-2-rating/ will still be pg-13]] despite carnage. That means not showing graphic violence in the open. However, it's [[HellIsThatNoise very easy to]] [[GoryDiscretionShot get around]] [[NothingIsScarier these limits.]]

From what we have seen so far, Venom's symbol doesn't seem to be visible on his torso, at least from the angles given in the second trailer, indicating that it could show up at a later point. In addition it would serve as a nice MythologyGag to ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' (both [[ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan comic]] and [[VideoGame/UltimateSpiderMan game]]).

The reason why he only has a BadassBaritone in the trailer is because Eddie hasn't fully accepted the symbiote yet. Once he does, his voice will become two voices talking in unison.

[[WMG: The sequel's villain will be Carnage (duh!) and he will be [[HasTwoDaddies Venom and Eddie]]'s offspring.]]

** Confirmed. It's Carnage. [[spoiler:Well, he at least makes something of an appearance, post-credits.]]
*** Possibly jossed. [[spoiler:The SDCC trailer reveals the villain to be Riot.]] Though Carnage will still be appearing somewhere, probably in TheStinger.

* Confirmed as far as the primary villain status goes - the main villain is a human [[spoiler: who later bonds with the ''Riot'' symbiote]]

*** [[spoiler: And confirmed]].

In ''Film/Venom2018'', the symbiote is being experimented on by The Life Foundation. In ''Film/Life2017'', an alien lifeform is found and studied, eventually showing symbiotic and conservation of mass ignoring properties. [[spoiler:At the end of Life, the lifeform falls to Earth in an escape pod.]] Both movies are produced by Creator/ColumbiaPictures.

It takes place between ''Infinity War'' and its sequel. Spider-man isn't part of Venom's origin because [[spoiler:Spidey is dead. Maybe Brock was inspired by Peter?]]

* One of the astronauts who brought the symbiotes is called "Jameson". [[spoiler:In the ending credits, he's named J. J. Jameson III.]]

** [[spoiler:A character speaks of carnage in the SequelHook]].

[[WMG: Riot [[spoiler:survived the rocket's explosion.]]]]
Since Riot is a "[[TheAce team leader]]" when it comes to symbiotes, he is most likely ''very'' hard to kill even by symbiote standards. While [[spoiler:Drake is certainly a goner, the Riot symbiote itself survived, although only by small bits - it's taken time to recover its full mass.]]

Once the sequel comes around, Riot will have spawned different symbiotes - Lasher, Scream, Agony and Phage - all of which going to their respective hosts (the same ones as in the comics)...as Riot [[spoiler:finds its own in the name of Trevor Cole]]. Which means that, coupled by Carnage's uprising, Venom will be having a ''long'' night.

It would explain how Riot [[spoiler: briefly absorbed Venom during the final battle]] and why Riot was briefly concerned with getting Venom back. Venom was probably the "runt" of the litter, which was why he was a loser on his home planet.

Creator/TomHolland will appear in the movie's first minutes having the symbiote, then passing it to Eddie Brock and hinted the rivalry between them, just like in the comics. All of this as the intro for the movie, just like ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk'' when Hulk's origin was made during the first minutes, {{adapted out}} the [[Film/{{Hulk}} first movie]] and making nods with [[Series/TheIncredibleHulk1977 the 70s series]].

* Maybe Carlton will become Toxin, and near the end of the film, Toxin will find it's way to the film's equivalent to Patrick Mulligan.

It takes place between ''Infinity War'' and it's sequel. Spider-man isn't part of Venom's origin because [[spoiler:Spidey is dead. Maybe Brock was inspired by Peter?]]

** Reid Scott, since Riz Ahmed has been confirmed to be playing a different character, and Scott seems to be the only other major male role in the film aside from Venom himself.

With the new deal between Marvel and Sony allowing for Spidey to appear in both this universe and [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse the MCU]], it's possible. Since Venom and Spidey are so closely tied together in the comics, and Venom was introduced during a time when the MCU Spidey was dead, this creates problems. With clues in Film/Morbius2020 indicating it takes place after Film/SpiderManFarFromHome they could use the excuse that the reason Spidey isn't tied to Venom here is because he was brought to Earth either before he got his powers, or while he was dead but before his resurrection. Edited to make more sense since Homecoming takes place AFTER Civil War and Peter had his powers for 6 months by that point.

[[WMG:The reason why Venom chooses to side with the humans and live on Earth is because the people actually have kindness and compassion which most of its kind do not have and that it is treated nicely by the humans there even though they are scared of him for a good reason.]]

Venom at first was willing to go along with the plan to have Earth taken over by its kind and the humans there to be taken over or killed by them but however over the six months it stayed there it was bonded to homeless humans who have been taken in as test subjects and saw they were treated the same as it because Venom is an outcast on its homeworld and eventually after going from Maria to Eddie Brock it decide to use Eddie at first to help it with the plan but however though it was at a restaurant full of people for it to eat as it is very hungry it realizes that it no longer have the ability to attack them in sight, instead it just looks anything that might be alive but not human so that it can eat them and even protects the civilians from the Life Foundiation's forces, though it attacks the SWAT team that was attacking it it leaves them alive instead of killing them even when it's about to eat the one that kept shooting at it it stops itself from doing it when Anne screams at what it was about to do, later on after being seperated from Eddie it bonds with Anne and finally realizes that the humans do not deserve to be taken over or killed by its kind so it decides to help Anne to rescue Eddie and after bonding with Eddie again it decides to help him stop Riot from bringing their kind to Earth now realizing that it prefers to live there in peace with the humans instead of destroying it and killing everyone on it.

Well, with how it's been received and its criticism, and with their plans for a Venom cinematic universe, the makers of Venom will draw from that criticism and make improvements to the sequel.

Creator/TomHolland will appear in the movie's first minutes having the symbiote, then passing it to Eddie Brock and hinted the rivalry between them, just like in the comics. All of this as the intro for the movie, just like Film/TheIncredibleHulk when Hulk's origin was made during the first minutes, {{adapted out}} the [[Film/{{Hulk}} first movie]] and making nods with [[Series/TheIncredibleHulk the 70s series]].

[[WMG: Let There Be Carnage will be slightly better than the first one.]]

That's why Eddie and Carlton Drake become hulking monsters with body-builder physiques, because they are (presumably straight) men in Western society, and they see that as an image of physical power, but when Anne is transformed, she becomes tall and supermodel-esque, because for a (presumably straight) woman in Western culture, that is seen as powerful.

[[WMG: Spider-Man and the Sin-Eater will be mentioned in the sequel.]]