Follow TV Tropes

Following

History WMG / ThereWillBeBrawl

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[WMG: [[Franchise/MetalGear Otacon's]] in this series.]]
There's a skinny, bespectacled man with shoulder-length brown hair styled in a way similar to Hal's ''Franchise/MetalGear'' style who stands at Snake's side among the immigrant cultists when Falco is killed and Mario confronts Olimar. Obviously, he (and probably Mei Ling and Campbell too) immigrated along with Snake and is living alongside him and Sonic in the slums. After all, [[HeterosexualLifePartners wherever Snake]] goes, Otacon [[HoYay goes with him.]] Plus, Snake and Sonic are in no shape to survive on their own. Either Otacon's mind snapped under the stress of caring for his partner, plus all the horrible stuff going down, or he was twisted by End Of Days, Ness and/or Lucas. Either way, in desperation and madness, he inducted Snake and Sonic into the cult. [[PlotBunny Hmmm... to the]] [[{{Thememobile}} fanficmobile?]]

to:

[[WMG: [[Franchise/MetalGear [[VideoGame/MetalGear Otacon's]] in this series.]]
There's a skinny, bespectacled man with shoulder-length brown hair styled in a way similar to Hal's ''Franchise/MetalGear'' ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' style who stands at Snake's side among the immigrant cultists when Falco is killed and Mario confronts Olimar. Obviously, he (and probably Mei Ling and Campbell too) immigrated along with Snake and is living alongside him and Sonic in the slums. After all, [[HeterosexualLifePartners wherever Snake]] goes, Otacon [[HoYay goes with him.]] Plus, Snake and Sonic are in no shape to survive on their own. Either Otacon's mind snapped under the stress of caring for his partner, plus all the horrible stuff going down, or he was twisted by End Of Days, Ness and/or Lucas. Either way, in desperation and madness, he inducted Snake and Sonic into the cult. [[PlotBunny Hmmm... to the]] [[{{Thememobile}} fanficmobile?]]

Added: 891

Changed: 102

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

** Pac-Man: A serial killer who predates Kirby but inspired his MO, retconning him as a JackTheRipoff.
** Ryu: An elite prize fighter within an underground bloodsport circuit. Ken might be his retired tag team partner, who split with him on less than amicable terms due to Ryu becoming punch drunk and violent.
** King K. Rool: Formerly one of the dons, but fell into financial ruin and disappeared off the face of the Earth. He returns to prominence years later, seeking revenge on those who dethroned him.
** Joker: A masked VigilanteMan, not unlike his role in his [[VideoGame/Persona5 game of origin.]] Except given the nature of this series, he'd be a violent, [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Rorschach-esque]] zealot enacting his own brand of gruesome justice upon those he deems corrupt.
** Byleth: A schoolteacher who moonlights as a hitman under the pseudonym "The Ashen Demon." Might have Marth and Ike in his pocket as a reference to the perception of Fire Emblem characters by the fandom.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[folder:Who is the Mastermind?]]

to:

[[folder:Who is the Mastermind?]]Butcher?]]

Added: 8011

Changed: 1049

Removed: 7834

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Moved some speculation from the main page. Also, WMG pages are Spoilers Off


[[WMG:Masterhand is So Obviously the Murderer]]

to:

[[WMG:Masterhand '''There are unmarked spoilers below.'''

[[foldercontrol]]

[[folder:Who is the Mastermind?]]
[[WMG:Master Hand
is So Obviously the Murderer]]



* [[spoiler: Oh boy, here we go. Jossed.]]

[[WMG:Zelda is in deep and acting behind Link's back]]
Lakitu claims to get all of his political information from one source. He goes to get information on his informant (who he always refers to as a "he", keep in mind "Sheik" was a male disguise of Zelda in OOT), and ends up with an envelope. This is likely the same envelope that Mario gives to Luigi when he's fighting off Link and Zelda in the jail (right after he uses the Fire Flower) in Episode 7. The envelope contains a photo of Zelda without her mask, revealing her true identity. So it can be concluded that Zelda was Lakitu's informant, and that she possibly knew about the murders earlier than the others. Also, at the beginning of Episode 6, Link was seen yelling at "Sheik" about the city being his city alone, making the point that Link and Zelda don't see eye to eye on everything, which leads to the possibility that Zelda/Sheik was the one who called the raid on Dedede's place, possibly in order to deliberately cover the killer's tracks. Finally, when Link was yelling at Zelda in episode 6, Zelda flat out looked at Luigi when he was looking at argument scene. Seems kinda suspicious.
* [[spoiler: Confirmed! If stabbing Link was not a giveaway. He's still twisting in agony at the end of the episode, so he has yet to actually expire...]]
** [[spoiler: And might still have some Maxim Tomato extract....]]
*** [[spoiler: Or a [[MythologyGag fairy.]]]]
** [[spoiler: She turned back in time to get herself killed.]]

to:

* [[spoiler: Oh boy, here we go. Jossed.]]

[[WMG:Zelda is in deep and acting behind Link's back]]
Lakitu claims to get all of his political information from one source. He goes to get information on his informant (who he always refers to as a "he", keep in mind "Sheik" was a male disguise of Zelda in OOT), and ends up with an envelope. This is likely the same envelope that Mario gives to Luigi when he's fighting off Link and Zelda in the jail (right after he uses the Fire Flower) in Episode 7. The envelope contains a photo of Zelda without her mask, revealing her true identity. So it can be concluded that Zelda was Lakitu's informant, and that she possibly knew about the murders earlier than the others. Also, at the beginning of Episode 6, Link was seen yelling at "Sheik" about the city being his city alone, making the point that Link and Zelda don't see eye to eye on everything, which leads to the possibility that Zelda/Sheik was the one who called the raid on Dedede's place, possibly in order to deliberately cover the killer's tracks. Finally, when Link was yelling at Zelda in episode 6, Zelda flat out looked at Luigi when he was looking at argument scene. Seems kinda suspicious.
* [[spoiler: Confirmed! If stabbing Link was not a giveaway. He's still twisting in agony at the end of the episode, so he has yet to actually expire...]]
** [[spoiler: And might still have some Maxim Tomato extract....]]
*** [[spoiler: Or a [[MythologyGag fairy.]]]]
** [[spoiler: She turned back in time to get herself killed.]]



Jigglypuff is the only SSB character that has yet to appear, even though it has been a playable character since the original. This also adds some irony to Mewtwo being shoved in a Pokeball.

to:

Jigglypuff is the only SSB character that has yet to appear, even though it has been a playable character since the original. This also adds some irony to Mewtwo being shoved in a Pokeball.Poké Ball.



*** Which means she's [[ChekhovsGun Chekhov's Gun]]. She has to be.
*** [[spoiler: Confirmed! Leaf uses it to attack Wario.]]

to:

*** Which means she's [[ChekhovsGun Chekhov's Gun]].ChekhovsGun. She has to be.
*** [[spoiler: Confirmed! Leaf uses it to attack Wario.]]



*** Red has no more usable Pokemon! Red whited out . . . [[spoiler: forever. [[{{Tearjerker}} *sob*]]]]
*** [[spoiler: I fucking told you she was ChekhovsGun.]]

to:

*** Red has no more usable Pokemon! Pokémon! Red whited out . . . [[spoiler: forever. [[{{Tearjerker}} *sob*]]]]
*sob*]]
*** [[spoiler: I fucking told you she was ChekhovsGun.]]
ChekhovsGun.



*** [[spoiler: Jossed]]

to:

*** [[spoiler: Jossed]]
Jossed



*** [[spoiler: Jossed]]

to:

*** [[spoiler: Jossed]]
Jossed



When he meets Luigi's group in episode 6 he is seen disposing of something in a bin and acts rather suspicious. Mewtwo's remains were even found inside a pokeball.

to:

When he meets Luigi's group in episode 6 he is seen disposing of something in a bin and acts rather suspicious. Mewtwo's remains were even found inside a pokeball.Poké Ball.



** There is another interesting point. Remember when Peach went to kirby with the envelope, Squirtle was also there, a sentry perhaps? Perhaps he knew Kirby would know something and had someone on the lookout for people trying to glean information from him.
*** [[spoiler: Jossed after Red was killed]]

[[WMG: Metaknight is the murderer]]
* If Link didn't order the raid the murderer used to cover killing Dedede, then it seems likely the murderer is someone prominent on the police force. Metaknight also fits the characteristics Luigi outlines in the latest episode: very good with a blade, and able to disappear into thin air. Kirby points out that Metaknight has 'come to understand [him] very well'. This could mean he's a very competent guard who's on to Kirby's mind games--or it could mean that Metaknight's obsession with Kirby has twisted his own mind in a similar fashion.
** It would also fit with Kirby’s hints that the murderer hates the outsides of other people, since Meta-knight would hate his own resemblance to Kirby (which would match the Silence of the Lambs parallel; where Jame Gumb wants to have a lady suit, Meta-knight wants a normal person suit). In fact, Kirby’s dialogue throughout his whole conversation with Luigi hints that Meta-knight is the murderer. The reason Meta-knight would want to kidnap Peach and kill the mob leaders to start a war would be because of his hatred for the Mushroom Kingdom (his kidnap of Peach also corresponding to her meeting with Kirby; he feared Kirby would figure things out and tell her); his own home fell apart while he was pursuing Kirby, it was annexed by the Kingdom he was trying to save from a cannibalistic murderer, and after all of that, he still didn’t get to be the one to take Kirby down, having to watch while others defeated him while he was forced to act as Kirby’s guardsman thereafter. To add insult to injury, he then saw that same Kingdom and its heroes fall apart, with the pressure (combined with his own self-loathing and proximity to Kirby) being more than he could take.

to:

** There is another interesting point. Remember when Peach went to kirby Kirby with the envelope, Squirtle was also there, a sentry perhaps? Perhaps he knew Kirby would know something and had someone on the lookout for people trying to glean information from him.
*** [[spoiler: Jossed after Red was killed]]

killed

[[WMG: Metaknight Meta Knight is the murderer]]
* If Link didn't order the raid the murderer used to cover killing Dedede, then it seems likely the murderer is someone prominent on the police force. Metaknight Meta Knight also fits the characteristics Luigi outlines in the latest episode: very good with a blade, and able to disappear into thin air. Kirby points out that Metaknight Meta Knight has 'come to understand [him] very well'. This could mean he's a very competent guard who's on to Kirby's mind games--or it could mean that Metaknight's Meta Knight's obsession with Kirby has twisted his own mind in a similar fashion.
** It would also fit with Kirby’s Kirby's hints that the murderer hates the outsides of other people, since Meta-knight would hate his own resemblance to Kirby (which would match the Silence of the Lambs parallel; where Jame Gumb wants to have a lady suit, Meta-knight wants a normal person suit). In fact, Kirby’s Kirby's dialogue throughout his whole conversation with Luigi hints that Meta-knight is the murderer. The reason Meta-knight would want to kidnap Peach and kill the mob leaders to start a war would be because of his hatred for the Mushroom Kingdom (his kidnap of Peach also corresponding to her meeting with Kirby; he feared Kirby would figure things out and tell her); his own home fell apart while he was pursuing Kirby, it was annexed by the Kingdom he was trying to save from a cannibalistic murderer, and after all of that, he still didn’t didn't get to be the one to take Kirby down, having to watch while others defeated him while he was forced to act as Kirby’s Kirby's guardsman thereafter. To add insult to injury, he then saw that same Kingdom and its heroes fall apart, with the pressure (combined with his own self-loathing and proximity to Kirby) being more than he could take.



* [[spoiler: Jossed. Turns out Metaknight was killed and not Kirby.]]

to:

* [[spoiler: Jossed. Turns out Metaknight Meta Knight was killed and not Kirby.]]
Kirby.



* Samus, Red, Metaknight, Link, and Zelda, they're all acting suspicious. They were all in on it.
** [[spoiler: Jossed.]]

to:

* Samus, Red, Metaknight, Meta Knight, Link, and Zelda, they're all acting suspicious. They were all in on it.
** [[spoiler: Jossed.]]
Jossed.



* How do we know Mewtwo's dead? Some guts in a Pokeball. How do we know Dedede's dead? A pile of guts with a mallet sticking out of it. Riiiight.

to:

* How do we know Mewtwo's dead? Some guts in a Pokeball.Poké Ball. How do we know Dedede's dead? A pile of guts with a mallet sticking out of it. Riiiight.



** [[spoiler: Jossed]]

to:

** [[spoiler: Jossed]]
Jossed



** [[spoiler: Yoshi's death]] is going to be pretty hard to disprove.
** [[spoiler: Jossed]]

[[WMG: It's all in Luigi's head.]]
Cue last scene: Luigi in some psych ward, gone insane from too many ghosts at VideoGame/LuigisMansion or something.
* Hm. This WMG might have been {{Jossed}} now, cause if it really was in Luigi's head, then why a good chunk of time from Mario's point of view? Unless Luigi developed some sort of disorder that made him think he was his brother at times.
** Not entirely Jossed, as Mario has dreamt he was [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 not only his brother, but his main squeeze and a random Toad]]; the same could happen to Luigi if they are twins.

to:

** [[spoiler: Yoshi's death]] death is going to be pretty hard to disprove.
** [[spoiler: Jossed]]

[[WMG: It's all in Luigi's head.]]
Cue last scene: Luigi in some psych ward, gone insane from too many ghosts at VideoGame/LuigisMansion or something.
* Hm. This WMG might have been {{Jossed}} now, cause if it really was in Luigi's head, then why a good chunk of time from Mario's point of view? Unless Luigi developed some sort of disorder that made him think he was his brother at times.
** Not entirely Jossed, as Mario has dreamt he was [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 not only his brother, but his main squeeze and a random Toad]]; the same could happen to Luigi if they are twins.
Jossed



The first murder was Mewtwo (who Lucario replaces), Lucario has the strength to bash DeDede's skull but also the technique Extreme Speed to get away. Red has been acting suspicious, possibly an accomplice or the brain behind it (controlling lucario using a pokeball). The main problem is Pichu's death really. Mewtwo is understandable, Pichu not so much.
** As a Pokemon, Pichu was under Mewtwo's protection; maybe he walked in on the murder scene, so the killer offed him to to cover his/her tracks.
** [[spoiler: Jossed]]

to:

The first murder was Mewtwo (who Lucario replaces), Lucario has the strength to bash DeDede's Dedede's skull but also the technique Extreme Speed to get away. Red has been acting suspicious, possibly an accomplice or the brain behind it (controlling lucario Lucario using a pokeball).Poké Ball). The main problem is Pichu's death really. Mewtwo is understandable, Pichu not so much.
** As a Pokemon, Pokémon, Pichu was under Mewtwo's protection; maybe he walked in on the murder scene, so the killer offed him to to cover his/her tracks.
** [[spoiler: Jossed]]
Jossed



All the killer leaves is internal organs, a clever way to not make it easy to figure out if the dead person is the real deal. Mewtwo faked his own death so he wouldn't be suspected, then started killing the other dons. After, he plans painting himself blue and returning to take over under the guise "Lucario" to take over, thinking his superior brain will allow him to rule far better and to create a 'pokemon kingdom'.
* [[spoiler: CLOSE! Mewtwo cultivated the two that ended up being the murderers.]]

to:

All the killer leaves is internal organs, a clever way to not make it easy to figure out if the dead person is the real deal. Mewtwo faked his own death so he wouldn't be suspected, then started killing the other dons. After, he plans painting himself blue and returning to take over under the guise "Lucario" to take over, thinking his superior brain will allow him to rule far better and to create a 'pokemon 'Pokémon kingdom'.
* [[spoiler: CLOSE! Mewtwo cultivated the two that ended up being the murderers.]]
murderers.



*** Supported thus far by [[spoiler: Ganondorf being the man behind the Mafia killings and Blackest Pitch, as well as the hinted relationship between him and Zelda. It's quite possible that Toon Link/Dark Toon Link is the Butcher.]]
** [[spoiler: Jossed]]

to:

*** Supported thus far by [[spoiler: Ganondorf being the man behind the Mafia killings and Blackest Pitch, as well as the hinted relationship between him and Zelda. It's quite possible that Toon Link/Dark Toon Link is the Butcher.]]
Butcher.
** [[spoiler: Jossed]]
Jossed



** [[spoiler: Jossed]]

to:

** [[spoiler: Jossed]]
Jossed



** Not quite...he says he saw "the Cannibal's" face "burned to the bone." All he saw, then, was a skull, and since nobody knows what Metaknight's face looks like anyway...
*** When we see Metaknights face in the game, he looks a hell of a lot like Kirby. Take that as you will, but I agree with the OP.

to:

** Not quite...he says he saw "the Cannibal's" face "burned to the bone." All he saw, then, was a skull, and since nobody knows what Metaknight's Meta Knight's face looks like anyway...
*** When we see Metaknights Meta Knights face in the game, he looks a hell of a lot like Kirby. Take that as you will, but I agree with the OP.



*** [[spoiler: Confirmed! Kirby is still alive and yes, he did take his armor and weapons.]]
*** OP here:[[spoiler: IKnewIt! I friggin' knew it!]]

[[WMG: Wario killed Yoshi.]]
Either him or the Ice Climbers, but they're not the dismemberer. If the dismemberer killed Yoshi it would mean he wanted to send a warning to Mario but needs to keep him alive. However it is also possible that he was killed by someone with a grudge against Mario. Wario fits the bill and the Ice Climber's didn't seem to like Yoshi too much either, Wario seemed quite fascinated with the murders in episode one and the Ice Climbers are outside Mario's window before Yoshi is found. wario could be the dismemberer but it feel more like he's taking advantage of the chaos rather than causing it.
** All but confirmed in Episode 9. Remember that the Ice Climbers take orders from Wario. In Ep. 9, Zelda says that Wario's goons (Nana and Popo) are more useful than he is, implying that she had him send the Ice Climbers to do the deed, probably to intimidate Mario. In the same episode, Ganondorf--heavily implied to be Zelda's co-conspirator--is conspicuously eating some meat, which was very possibly Yoshi. Anyway, Wario isn't a murderer--he hires other people to do it for him.
*** It probably doesn't make chronological sense for that meat to be Yoshi, since Yoshi was alive at the beginning of Episode 8 and the beginning of each occur at the same time.

to:

*** [[spoiler: Confirmed! Kirby is still alive and yes, he did take his armor and weapons.]]
*** OP here:[[spoiler: IKnewIt! I friggin' knew it!]]

[[WMG: Wario killed Yoshi.]]
Either him or the Ice Climbers, but they're not the dismemberer. If the dismemberer killed Yoshi it would mean he wanted to send a warning to Mario but needs to keep him alive. However it is also possible that he was killed by someone with a grudge against Mario. Wario fits the bill and the Ice Climber's didn't seem to like Yoshi too much either, Wario seemed quite fascinated with the murders in episode one and the Ice Climbers are outside Mario's window before Yoshi is found. wario could be the dismemberer but it feel more like he's taking advantage of the chaos rather than causing it.
** All but confirmed in Episode 9. Remember that the Ice Climbers take orders from Wario. In Ep. 9, Zelda says that Wario's goons (Nana and Popo) are more useful than he is, implying that she had him send the Ice Climbers to do the deed, probably to intimidate Mario. In the same episode, Ganondorf--heavily implied to be Zelda's co-conspirator--is conspicuously eating some meat, which was very possibly Yoshi. Anyway, Wario isn't a murderer--he hires other people to do it for him.
*** It probably doesn't make chronological sense for that meat to be Yoshi, since Yoshi was alive at the beginning of Episode 8 and the beginning of each occur at the same time.
weapons.



** [[spoiler: Jossed. Ness and Lucas gave her the same fate as the other victims.]]

to:

** [[spoiler: Jossed. Ness and Lucas gave her the same fate as the other victims.]]
victims.



* [[spoiler: Well, there ARE two killers, but they're not in it for the power. So [[IKnewIt Confirmed!]]]]

to:

* [[spoiler: Well, there ARE two killers, but they're not in it for the power. So [[IKnewIt Confirmed!]]]]
Confirmed!]]



** [[spoiler: Yep. But the GW's cherry pick it before Olimar has a chance to blast off.]]

to:

** [[spoiler: Yep. But the GW's cherry pick it before Olimar has a chance to blast off.]]
off.



** [[spoiler: Jossed]]

to:

** [[spoiler: Jossed]]
Jossed



** [[spoiler: Jossed]]

to:

** [[spoiler: Jossed]]
Jossed



** [[spoiler: Jossed]]

[[WMG:Kirby became a genius monster after eating Hannibal Lecter]]
Before he was a childlike creature that never really seemed fully aware of the damage he does. Then one day, he eats a genius cannibal serial killer and gains his power, namely, he becomes a genius killer. His transformed state includes the teeth and the intellect.

[[WMG:The bomb that killed Red was sent to the wrong house.]]
Red wasn't really a major player in the Brawl going on in the Mushroom Kingdom, so it's possible the bomb was intended for somebody else. Waluigi's condition is a good piece of evidence for this, as he might have gotten mixed up and sent it to the wrong house by mistake.
* Waluigi seemed to know he was at the right place. The bomb was wrapped like a present, and he told Red "Happy birthday!"

[[WMG:The bomb that killed Red was a Power Bomb of Metroid fame]]
It doesn't seem like Wario to off his own minions, and it'd be a shame if all that foreshadowing and gloomy music surrounding Samus went to waste.
* Wario's minions consist of the Ice Climbers and possibly Waluigi, but not Red. Also, the bomb was very clearly one of those giant pill/capsule-looking explosives from the Smash Bros. series, powered by a Red Pikmin inside, which Luigi found when sifting through the wreckage.

to:

** [[spoiler: Jossed]]

[[WMG:Kirby became a genius monster after eating Hannibal Lecter]]
Before he was a childlike creature that never really seemed fully aware of the damage he does. Then one day, he eats a genius cannibal serial killer and gains his power, namely, he becomes a genius killer. His transformed state includes the teeth and the intellect.

[[WMG:The bomb that killed Red was sent to the wrong house.]]
Red wasn't really a major player in the Brawl going on in the Mushroom Kingdom, so it's possible the bomb was intended for somebody else. Waluigi's condition is a good piece of evidence for this, as he might have gotten mixed up and sent it to the wrong house by mistake.
* Waluigi seemed to know he was at the right place. The bomb was wrapped like a present, and he told Red "Happy birthday!"

[[WMG:The bomb that killed Red was a Power Bomb of Metroid fame]]
It doesn't seem like Wario to off his own minions, and it'd be a shame if all that foreshadowing and gloomy music surrounding Samus went to waste.
* Wario's minions consist of the Ice Climbers and possibly Waluigi, but not Red. Also, the bomb was very clearly one of those giant pill/capsule-looking explosives from the Smash Bros. series, powered by a Red Pikmin inside, which Luigi found when sifting through the wreckage.
Jossed



* [[spoiler: Jossed]]

to:

* [[spoiler: Jossed]]
Jossed



* [[spoiler: Close. He was the ManBehindTheMan for the murderers. Too bad there was a man behind HIM.]]

[[WMG: Zelda is the victim in this.]]
Like Princess Peach Zelda is also a well known damsel in distress. Also if one recalls the events of Twilight Princess it's possible that Ganon has Zelda under his control due to magic. Should Zelda succeed in ruling she would be nothing more than a puppet ruler while Ganon is the real overlord behind the scenes. The movie went through great detail on how alike Zelda and Peach are when it comes to being the damsel that Link and the Mario Bros save on a daily bases. Link even commented that Zelda isn't the same person he knew before.

[[WMG: Red was [[spoiler: learning Poke-speak before he died.]]]]
[[spoiler:Red was taking care of and training all the orphaned Pokemon. As a result of spending so much time with the little critters, he began to learn their language. Since most of the Pokemon worked with Mewtwo before he was killed, they might be able to tell Red information that the murderer wants to be kept a secret. So Zelda (or whoever she's working for/with) sent the bomb to kill Red and all his 'mons in one fell swoop, to elminate any possible witnesses.]]

to:

* [[spoiler: Close. He was the ManBehindTheMan for the murderers. Too bad there was a man behind HIM.]]

[[WMG: Zelda is the victim in this.]]
Like Princess Peach Zelda is also a well known damsel in distress. Also if one recalls the events of Twilight Princess it's possible that Ganon has Zelda under his control due to magic. Should Zelda succeed in ruling she would be nothing more than a puppet ruler while Ganon is the real overlord behind the scenes. The movie went through great detail on how alike Zelda and Peach are when it comes to being the damsel that Link and the Mario Bros save on a daily bases. Link even commented that Zelda isn't the same person he knew before.

[[WMG: Red was [[spoiler: learning Poke-speak before he died.]]]]
[[spoiler:Red was taking care of and training all the orphaned Pokemon. As a result of spending so much time with the little critters, he began to learn their language. Since most of the Pokemon worked with Mewtwo before he was killed, they might be able to tell Red information that the murderer wants to be kept a secret. So Zelda (or whoever she's working for/with) sent the bomb to kill Red and all his 'mons in one fell swoop, to elminate any possible witnesses.]]
HIM.



** [[spoiler: Jossed]]

to:

** [[spoiler: Jossed]]
Jossed



* Oh and, just now, I realized something else: Remember the photo of Young Link from episode nine? And how there was a drawing of Toon Link along with it? Well, that drawing was singed by Zelda, meaning that she drew it. Toon Link, however, wears a different tunic than Young Link and Zelda would have no reason to draw her best friend (at least best friend back then) in a long-sleved shirt and a sleveless tunic instead of a short-sleved tunic. This could mean that Toon Link is really a different person in this continuity and Zelda has been having a crush /affair on/with this other Link for many, many years now. Just now she decided that the "original" Link has gone soft, so she killed him and settled on the other one.
** [[spoiler: Jossed. ''Lucas and Ness'' were the [[EnfantTerrible Enfants Terrible]]]]
** Well, at least I got the part about [[spoiler: Children being the killers]] right. ;-P
*** No, you didn't. You never said that [[spoiler:he was the killer.]]

[[WMG:There won't be some asshole who feels the need to write Jossed under every single WMG after the last episode comes out just to make himself feel better.]]
* [[spoiler: Jossed.]]
** I'll say. You got the gender wrong. :P
** Yeah, 'cause when I'm feeling down it really helps to...write Jossed under WMG entries. Cheers me right up.

[[WMG: In this universe, Sakurai and Miyamoto were the highest powers at the time of [[spoiler: their probable deaths]]]]
With a power vacumm from [[spoiler: the mob bosses and Peach's death]], either one of two things happened. Either the kingdom reformed into a republic or democracy, or one of them [[spoiler: was the closest heir to the throne since the Toadstool line died with Peach. Somehow.]] My guess would be that Miyamoto would have the higher position, president, prime minister, or [[spoiler: king]], and Sakurai was his vice president, chancellor, or something else.
* Doubtful. They seemed more like gods. (The kind of low-ranking gods that can be killed, but gods nonetheless)

to:

* Oh and, just now, I realized something else: Remember the photo of Young Link from episode nine? And how there was a drawing of Toon Link along with it? Well, that drawing was singed by Zelda, meaning that she drew it. Toon Link, however, wears a different tunic than Young Link and Zelda would have no reason to draw her best friend (at least best friend back then) in a long-sleved shirt and a sleveless tunic instead of a short-sleved tunic. This could mean that Toon Link is really a different person in this continuity and Zelda has been having a crush /affair on/with this other Link for many, many years now. Just now she decided that the "original" Link has gone soft, so she killed him and settled on the other one.
** [[spoiler: Jossed. **Jossed. ''Lucas and Ness'' were the [[EnfantTerrible Enfants Terrible]]]]
** Well, at least I got the part about [[spoiler: Children being the killers]] right. ;-P
*** No, you didn't. You never said that [[spoiler:he was the killer.]]

[[WMG:There won't be some asshole who feels the need to write Jossed under every single WMG after the last episode comes out just to make himself feel better.]]
* [[spoiler: Jossed.]]
** I'll say. You got the gender wrong. :P
** Yeah, 'cause when I'm feeling down it really helps to...write Jossed under WMG entries. Cheers me right up.

[[WMG: In this universe, Sakurai and Miyamoto were the highest powers at the time of [[spoiler: their probable deaths]]]]
With a power vacumm from [[spoiler: the mob bosses and Peach's death]], either one of two things happened. Either the kingdom reformed into a republic or democracy, or one of them [[spoiler: was the closest heir to the throne since the Toadstool line died with Peach. Somehow.]] My guess would be that Miyamoto would have the higher position, president, prime minister, or [[spoiler: king]], and Sakurai was his vice president, chancellor, or something else.
* Doubtful. They seemed more like gods. (The kind of low-ranking gods that can be killed, but gods nonetheless)
Terrible]]



Mewtwo is a psychic, and a powerful telpath as it is his only way to be understood being a pokemon and all. with [[spoiler: Ness and Lucas]] prefering telekinesis over telepathy he could have easily figured out that [[spoiler: Ganondorf had taken Ness and Lucas,]] so instead he forms a plan, fake his death by cloning a body in a similar experiment to what created him in the first place and have [[spoiler: Ness and Lucas]] kill him, with one mob boss suppossedly gone he could just sit back as the others try to take control, get killed along with the culprits all in time for a sweeping return as thier saviour with only the police in charge to make himself acting regent of the mushroom kingdom after a bit of brainwashing. However since things didn't quite work out they way he hoped with [[spoiler: the return of Kirby being at large]] and the death of Red possibly being one of the few he could trust that he has decided to stay hidden.
[[WMG: Link and Ganondorf[[spoiler: either aren't dead by the end of episode ten or will soon revive.]]]]
[[spoiler: Link could have a fairy on him, possibly Navi, since we have already seen her. As for Ganondorf, he always comes back. He's had the master sword shoved straight through him before and still returned eventually. Someone will revive him to use as a powerful henchman/dragon.]] Maybe [[spoiler: Kirby, who offed his lackies at the very end of episode ten, will discover he needs some muscle to get the job done, or perhaps Bowser survived afterall, and will decide to go after Kirby himself with the help of an old enemy. Ganondorf would probably be more than happy to kill the guy who cut his head off, especially since the killers he was actually terrified of, Lucas and Ness, are now out of the picture.]] Just rambling here, really, but it could happen.
* Alternatively, [[spoiler: Zelda characters in this continuity possess the special ability to be reborn. Would explain why the two pictures of Kid-Link looked wastly different. Those were from two different childhoods of his.]]

[[WMG:In the end, Kirby took over Nintendo]]
[[spoiler:That's what he's doing with Miyamoto Shigeru's skin]].
** This explains why the Subspace Emissary is the first Kirby game never made for the Wii.

[[WMG:Red [[spoiler:comes back from the dead]].]]
Leaf [[spoiler:is unable to cope with his death]], and so over a period of two years, [[spoiler:she carefully cultivates a 1-up mushroom—''very'' hard to raise, and equally rare]]. Unfortunately, [[spoiler:experiencing what happens after death has hardened him, and 1-up mushrooms are less effective when used postmortem]]. He never speaks, and becomes obsessed with becoming stronger. [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver He heads to Mount Silver to harden himself and his once-innocent Pokémon...]]

[[WMG: Kirby now has Ness's powers.]]
Someone pointed out on the main page that [[spoiler: the reason we're able to tell that Kirby killed Ness was that he was wearing Ness's baseball cap...just like if he had ate him to copy his powers.]] And that's exactly what he did.

to:

Mewtwo is a psychic, and a powerful telpath as it is his only way to be understood being a pokemon Pokémon and all. with [[spoiler: Ness and Lucas]] Lucas prefering telekinesis over telepathy he could have easily figured out that [[spoiler: Ganondorf had taken Ness and Lucas,]] Lucas, so instead he forms a plan, fake his death by cloning a body in a similar experiment to what created him in the first place and have [[spoiler: Ness and Lucas]] Lucas kill him, with one mob boss suppossedly gone he could just sit back as the others try to take control, get killed along with the culprits all in time for a sweeping return as thier saviour with only the police in charge to make himself acting regent of the mushroom kingdom after a bit of brainwashing. However since things didn't quite work out they way he hoped with [[spoiler: the return of Kirby being at large]] large and the death of Red possibly being one of the few he could trust that he has decided to stay hidden.
[[WMG: Link and Ganondorf[[spoiler: Ganondorf either aren't dead by the end of episode ten or will soon revive.]]]]
[[spoiler:
]]
Link could have a fairy on him, possibly Navi, since we have already seen her. As for Ganondorf, he always comes back. He's had the master sword shoved straight through him before and still returned eventually. Someone will revive him to use as a powerful henchman/dragon.]] Maybe [[spoiler: Kirby, who offed his lackies at the very end of episode ten, will discover he needs some muscle to get the job done, or perhaps Bowser survived afterall, and will decide to go after Kirby himself with the help of an old enemy. Ganondorf would probably be more than happy to kill the guy who cut his head off, especially since the killers he was actually terrified of, Lucas and Ness, are now out of the picture.]] Just rambling here, really, but it could happen.
* Alternatively, [[spoiler: Zelda ''Zelda'' characters in this continuity possess the special ability to be reborn. Would explain why the two pictures of Kid-Link looked wastly different. Those were from two different childhoods of his.]]

[[WMG:In the end, Kirby took over Nintendo]]
[[spoiler:That's what he's doing with Miyamoto Shigeru's skin]].
** This explains why the Subspace Emissary is the first Kirby game never made for the Wii.

[[WMG:Red [[spoiler:comes back from the dead]].]]
Leaf [[spoiler:is unable to cope with his death]], and so over a period of two years, [[spoiler:she carefully cultivates a 1-up mushroom—''very'' hard to raise, and equally rare]]. Unfortunately, [[spoiler:experiencing what happens after death has hardened him, and 1-up mushrooms are less effective when used postmortem]]. He never speaks, and becomes obsessed with becoming stronger. [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver He heads to Mount Silver to harden himself and his once-innocent Pokémon...]]

[[WMG: Kirby now has Ness's powers.]]
Someone pointed out on the main page that [[spoiler: the reason we're able to tell that Kirby killed Ness was that he was wearing Ness's baseball cap...just like if he had ate him to copy his powers.]] And that's exactly what he did.
his.



In the Smash Bros universe, anyone who died in their original games is still alive. Although Porky was defeated in the Subspace Emissary, it never really showed him dying. He used Mewtwo to get [[spoiler: Ness and Lucas]] under control, but once [[spoiler: the boys]] were under sufficient control, he turned on Mewtwo and had him killed. Now, why did Porky have all the victims be disemboweled? Because HE was the owner of the [[spoiler: trophy gallery,]] and he was bored, so what else was he to do besides torture and trophify the citizens of the Mushroom Kingdom? It also sounds rather typical of his Mother 3 incarnation. His plans looked like they were ruined when it was destroyed, but he's also controlling [[spoiler:Miyamato]], so his evil plans might be able to continue...

to:

In the Smash Bros ''Smash Bros.'' universe, anyone who died in their original games is still alive. Although Porky was defeated in the Subspace Emissary, it never really showed him dying. He used Mewtwo to get [[spoiler: Ness and Lucas]] Lucas under control, but once [[spoiler: the boys]] boys were under sufficient control, he turned on Mewtwo and had him killed. Now, why did Porky have all the victims be disemboweled? Because HE was the owner of the [[spoiler: trophy gallery,]] gallery, and he was bored, so what else was he to do besides torture and trophify the citizens of the Mushroom Kingdom? It also sounds rather typical of his Mother 3 ''VideoGame/Mother3'' incarnation. His plans looked like they were ruined when it was destroyed, but he's also controlling [[spoiler:Miyamato]], Miyamato, so his evil plans might be able to continue...




to:

[[/folder]]

[[folder:Other]]
[[WMG:Zelda is in deep and acting behind Link's back]]
Lakitu claims to get all of his political information from one source. He goes to get information on his informant (who he always refers to as a "he", keep in mind "Sheik" was a male disguise of Zelda in OOT), and ends up with an envelope. This is likely the same envelope that Mario gives to Luigi when he's fighting off Link and Zelda in the jail (right after he uses the Fire Flower) in Episode 7. The envelope contains a photo of Zelda without her mask, revealing her true identity. So it can be concluded that Zelda was Lakitu's informant, and that she possibly knew about the murders earlier than the others. Also, at the beginning of Episode 6, Link was seen yelling at "Sheik" about the city being his city alone, making the point that Link and Zelda don't see eye to eye on everything, which leads to the possibility that Zelda/Sheik was the one who called the raid on Dedede's place, possibly in order to deliberately cover the killer's tracks. Finally, when Link was yelling at Zelda in episode 6, Zelda flat out looked at Luigi when he was looking at argument scene. Seems kinda suspicious.
* Confirmed! If stabbing Link was not a giveaway. He's still twisting in agony at the end of the episode, so he has yet to actually expire...
** And might still have some Maxim Tomato extract....
*** Or a [[MythologyGag fairy.]]
** She turned back in time to get herself killed.

[[WMG: It's all in Luigi's head.]]
Cue last scene: Luigi in some psych ward, gone insane from too many ghosts at VideoGame/LuigisMansion or something.
* Hm. This WMG might have been {{Jossed}} now, cause if it really was in Luigi's head, then why a good chunk of time from Mario's point of view? Unless Luigi developed some sort of disorder that made him think he was his brother at times.
** Not entirely Jossed, as Mario has dreamt he was [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 not only his brother, but his main squeeze and a random Toad]]; the same could happen to Luigi if they are twins.

[[WMG: Wario killed Yoshi.]]
Either him or the Ice Climbers, but they're not the dismemberer. If the dismemberer killed Yoshi it would mean he wanted to send a warning to Mario but needs to keep him alive. However it is also possible that he was killed by someone with a grudge against Mario. Wario fits the bill and the Ice Climber's didn't seem to like Yoshi too much either, Wario seemed quite fascinated with the murders in episode one and the Ice Climbers are outside Mario's window before Yoshi is found. wario could be the dismemberer but it feel more like he's taking advantage of the chaos rather than causing it.
** All but confirmed in Episode 9. Remember that the Ice Climbers take orders from Wario. In Ep. 9, Zelda says that Wario's goons (Nana and Popo) are more useful than he is, implying that she had him send the Ice Climbers to do the deed, probably to intimidate Mario. In the same episode, Ganondorf--heavily implied to be Zelda's co-conspirator--is conspicuously eating some meat, which was very possibly Yoshi. Anyway, Wario isn't a murderer--he hires other people to do it for him.
*** It probably doesn't make chronological sense for that meat to be Yoshi, since Yoshi was alive at the beginning of Episode 8 and the beginning of each occur at the same time.

[[WMG:Kirby became a genius monster after eating Hannibal Lecter]]
Before he was a childlike creature that never really seemed fully aware of the damage he does. Then one day, he eats a genius cannibal serial killer and gains his power, namely, he becomes a genius killer. His transformed state includes the teeth and the intellect.

[[WMG:The bomb that killed Red was sent to the wrong house.]]
Red wasn't really a major player in the Brawl going on in the Mushroom Kingdom, so it's possible the bomb was intended for somebody else. Waluigi's condition is a good piece of evidence for this, as he might have gotten mixed up and sent it to the wrong house by mistake.
* Waluigi seemed to know he was at the right place. The bomb was wrapped like a present, and he told Red "Happy birthday!"

[[WMG:The bomb that killed Red was a Power Bomb of Metroid fame]]
It doesn't seem like Wario to off his own minions, and it'd be a shame if all that foreshadowing and gloomy music surrounding Samus went to waste.
* Wario's minions consist of the Ice Climbers and possibly Waluigi, but not Red. Also, the bomb was very clearly one of those giant pill/capsule-looking explosives from the Smash Bros. series, powered by a Red Pikmin inside, which Luigi found when sifting through the wreckage.

[[WMG: Zelda is the victim in this.]]
Like Princess Peach Zelda is also a well known damsel in distress. Also if one recalls the events of Twilight Princess it's possible that Ganon has Zelda under his control due to magic. Should Zelda succeed in ruling she would be nothing more than a puppet ruler while Ganon is the real overlord behind the scenes. The movie went through great detail on how alike Zelda and Peach are when it comes to being the damsel that Link and the Mario Bros save on a daily bases. Link even commented that Zelda isn't the same person he knew before.

[[WMG: Red was learning Poké-speak before he died.]]
Red was taking care of and training all the orphaned Pokémon. As a result of spending so much time with the little critters, he began to learn their language. Since most of the Pokémon worked with Mewtwo before he was killed, they might be able to tell Red information that the murderer wants to be kept a secret. So Zelda (or whoever she's working for/with) sent the bomb to kill Red and all his 'mons in one fell swoop, to elminate any possible witnesses.

[[WMG:Red comes back from the dead.]]
Leaf is unable to cope with his death, and so over a period of two years, she carefully cultivates a 1-Up Mushroom--''very'' hard to raise, and equally rare. Unfortunately, experiencing what happens after death has hardened him, and 1-Up Mushrooms are less effective when used postmortem. He never speaks, and becomes obsessed with becoming stronger. [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver He heads to Mount Silver to harden himself and his once-innocent Pokémon...]]

[[WMG:In the end, Kirby took over Nintendo]]
That's what he's doing with Miyamoto Shigeru's skin.
** This explains why the Subspace Emissary is the first Kirby game never made for the Wii.

[[WMG: Kirby now has Ness's powers.]]
As pointed out on the main page, the reason we're able to tell that Kirby killed Ness was that he was wearing Ness's baseball cap...just like if he had ate him to copy his powers. And that's exactly what he did.



As for the burned remains of "Kirby", later attributed to "Meta Knight"? [[spoiler: An innocent Mr. Saturn, killed with PK Fire.]] After all, one small pile of burned flesh looks like another if you don't have the time and resources to study it properly.
* But didn't Metaknight come between Kirby and Luigi [[spoiler: when the prison cells were unlocked and Kirby escaped]]?

to:

As for the burned remains of "Kirby", later attributed to "Meta Knight"? [[spoiler: An innocent Mr. Saturn, killed with PK Fire.]] After all, one small pile of burned flesh looks like another if you don't have the time and resources to study it properly.
* But didn't Metaknight Meta Knight come between Kirby and Luigi [[spoiler: when the prison cells were unlocked and Kirby escaped]]?
escaped?



Prior to the events and backstory of the series, [[EldritchAbomination Dark Matter]] let itself, as a whole, be swallowed up by Kirby by disguising istelf as food. Dark Matter then gradually corrupted Kirby, combining it's hatred for all life with Kirby's unstoppable hunger to become the monster he is today. How else could you explain [[spoiler: him surviving the explosion at the end of the series? Dark Matter cannot be destroyed of course!]] So basically, It is Kirby with Zero's "ability".

to:

Prior to the events and backstory of the series, [[EldritchAbomination Dark Matter]] let itself, as a whole, be swallowed up by Kirby by disguising istelf as food. Dark Matter then gradually corrupted Kirby, combining it's hatred for all life with Kirby's unstoppable hunger to become the monster he is today. How else could you explain [[spoiler: him surviving the explosion at the end of the series? Dark Matter cannot be destroyed of course!]] course! So basically, It is Kirby with Zero's "ability".



There's a skinny, bespectacled man with shoulder-length brown hair styled in a way similar to Hal's ''Franchise/MetalGear'' style who stands at Snake's side among the immigrant cultists [[spoiler: when Falco is killed and Mario confronts Olimar.]] Obviously, he (and probably Mei Ling and Campbell too) immigrated along with Snake and is living alongside him and Sonic in the slums. After all, [[HeterosexualLifePartners wherever Snake]] goes, Otacon [[HoYay goes with him.]] Plus, Snake and Sonic are in no shape to survive on their own. Either Otacon's mind snapped under the stress of caring for his partner, plus all the horrible stuff going down, or he was twisted by [[spoiler: End Of Days, Ness and/or Lucas.]] Either way, in desperation and madness, he inducted Snake and Sonic into the cult. [[PlotBunny Hmmm... to the]] [[{{Thememobile}} fanficmobile?]]

[[WMG: Paula was crying over [[spoiler: Ness' death]]]]
While [[spoiler: Ness was the butcher,]] it was still the same person as his video game counterpart, so odds are he still kept tabs with Paula offscreen.

to:

There's a skinny, bespectacled man with shoulder-length brown hair styled in a way similar to Hal's ''Franchise/MetalGear'' style who stands at Snake's side among the immigrant cultists [[spoiler: when Falco is killed and Mario confronts Olimar.]] Olimar. Obviously, he (and probably Mei Ling and Campbell too) immigrated along with Snake and is living alongside him and Sonic in the slums. After all, [[HeterosexualLifePartners wherever Snake]] goes, Otacon [[HoYay goes with him.]] Plus, Snake and Sonic are in no shape to survive on their own. Either Otacon's mind snapped under the stress of caring for his partner, plus all the horrible stuff going down, or he was twisted by [[spoiler: End Of Days, Ness and/or Lucas.]] Lucas. Either way, in desperation and madness, he inducted Snake and Sonic into the cult. [[PlotBunny Hmmm... to the]] [[{{Thememobile}} fanficmobile?]]

[[WMG: Paula was crying over [[spoiler: Ness' death]]]]
death]]
While [[spoiler: Ness was the butcher,]] butcher, it was still the same person as his video game counterpart, so odds are he still kept tabs with Paula offscreen.



I imagine the Inklings to be part of the same gladiator fights as the Pokemon. Pirahna Plant is probably someone’s pet.

to:

I imagine the Inklings to be part of the same gladiator fights as the Pokemon. Pokémon. Pirahna Plant is probably someone’s pet. someone's pet.

[[WMG: In this universe, Sakurai and Miyamoto were the highest powers at the time of their probable deaths]]
With a power vacumm from the mob bosses and Peach's death, either one of two things happened. Either the kingdom reformed into a republic or democracy, or one of them was the closest heir to the throne since the Toadstool line died with Peach. Somehow. My guess would be that Miyamoto would have the higher position, president, prime minister, or king, and Sakurai was his vice president, chancellor, or something else.
* Doubtful. They seemed more like gods. (The kind of low-ranking gods that can be killed, but gods nonetheless)

[[WMG: The story has a stealth TakeThat against Meta Knight.]]
Meta Knight, who in Brawl is widely considered to be the best character in the game to the point of being a game-breaker, gets his long-awaited fight with Kirby, who was ranked as one of, if not the worst character in Melee. And then loses. His body is so badly burned that he's mistaken for Kirby - Mario dropped a Fire Flower a few minutes earlier, presumably Kirby got hold of it and used it to win the fight. This could possibly be a TakeThat to people who prefer to use Meta Knight in tournament play.
* Alternatively it could be a TakeThat to item usage, implying it messes up the balance of the game.
[[/folder]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


*** [[spoiler: Not to mention a FunnyAneurysmMoment on the part of the OP. Trophy indeed...]]

to:

*** [[spoiler: Not to mention a FunnyAneurysmMoment on the part of the OP. Trophy indeed...]]

Top