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The planet within the rift the is old world that the snarl supposedly "destroyed". The story of the Snarl that Shojo tells the Order may not be the true account. In fact, the gods themselves may be mistaken, believing that the gods of the East were killed when they really became part of the Snarl. In other words, anything the snarl gets its tendrils on is not killed but is instead transported to the Snarl's realm. The snarl himself may not even be evil, simply wanting to absorb things more "real" than itself for unknown reasons. So yeah, basically like a being from the [[{{Disworld}} dungeon dimensions]]
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The planet within the rift the is old world that the snarl supposedly "destroyed". The story of the Snarl that Shojo tells the Order may not be the true account. In fact, the gods themselves may be mistaken, believing that the gods of the East were killed when they really became part of the Snarl. In other words, anything the snarl gets its tendrils on is not killed but is instead transported to the Snarl's realm. The snarl himself may not even be evil, simply wanting to absorb things more "real" than itself for unknown reasons. So yeah, basically like a being from the [[{{Disworld}} [[Literature/{{Discworld}} dungeon dimensions]]
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The Dark One's Plan involves an ritual to help control the Snarl, which happens to be the purple energy seperating the outer world from the inner world. As it is, it is deadly to touch, but the ritual will allow transportation of goblinkind from the outer planet where they're hunted for sport into the inner planet where the inhabitants originally consumed by the Snarl will welcome the goblins as equals, like Little Green Men finally showing themselves to humanity. This will allow Burlew to reference Star Trek as well, and maybe even LongCat as the goblin's welcoming host.
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The Dark One's Plan involves an ritual to help control the Snarl, which happens to be the purple energy seperating the outer world from the inner world. As it is, it is deadly to touch, but the ritual will allow transportation of goblinkind from the outer planet where they're hunted for sport into the inner planet where the inhabitants originally consumed by the Snarl will welcome the goblins as equals, like Little Green Men finally showing themselves to humanity. This will allow Burlew to reference Star Trek as well, and maybe even LongCat [=LongCat=] as the goblin's welcoming host.
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** Alternatively, Giggles could play a role.
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[[WMG:Hel's vote is going to cause a tie... that will be broken by Banjo the Clown]][[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0137.html This strip]] has Banjo getting treated as a full-fleged god by Odin and Thor, but failing to join the Northern Pantheon. Each full-fleged god gets a vote in the Godsmoot. Banjo isn't part of the Eastern or Southern Pantheons, so he hasn't technically voted yet. His vote will save the world, but Hel will have revealed her hand by voting via her High Priest and the Order will no longer be able to ignore it.
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[[WMG:Hel's vote is going to cause a tie... that will be broken by Banjo the Clown]][[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0137.html This strip]] has Banjo getting treated as a full-fleged god by Odin and Thor, but failing to join the Northern Pantheon. Each full-fleged god gets a vote in the Godsmoot. Banjo isn't part of the Eastern or Southern Pantheons, so he hasn't technically voted yet. His vote will save the world, but Hel will have revealed her hand by voting via her High Priest and the Order will no longer be able to ignore it.it.
**Alternatively, Giggles could play a role.
[[WMG:The Dark One will choose to throw a spanner in the works of Hel's plan]]
The Dark One doesn't want to get the goblins all killed along with the rest of the world, so he may very well choose to come in. However, he is a clever fellow and he might threaten to withhold his vote unless the rest of the gods allow equality for goblinoid species.
**Alternatively, Giggles could play a role.
[[WMG:The Dark One will choose to throw a spanner in the works of Hel's plan]]
The Dark One doesn't want to get the goblins all killed along with the rest of the world, so he may very well choose to come in. However, he is a clever fellow and he might threaten to withhold his vote unless the rest of the gods allow equality for goblinoid species.
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[[WMG:Hel's vote is going to cause a tie... that will be broken by Banjo the Clown]][[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0137.html This strip]] has banjo getting treated as a full-fleged god by Odin and Thor, but failing to join the Northern Pantheon. Each full-fleged god gets a vote in the Godsmoot. Banjo isn't part of the Eastern or Southern Pantheons, so he hasn't technically voted yet. His vote will save the world, but Hel will have revealed her hand by voting via her High Priest and the Order will no longer be able to ignore it.
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[[WMG:Hel's vote is going to cause a tie... that will be broken by Banjo the Clown]][[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0137.html This strip]] has banjo Banjo getting treated as a full-fleged god by Odin and Thor, but failing to join the Northern Pantheon. Each full-fleged god gets a vote in the Godsmoot. Banjo isn't part of the Eastern or Southern Pantheons, so he hasn't technically voted yet. His vote will save the world, but Hel will have revealed her hand by voting via her High Priest and the Order will no longer be able to ignore it.
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[[WMG:Hel's vote is going to cause a tie... that will be broken by Banjo the Clown]][[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0137.html This strip]] has banjo getting treated as a full-fleged god by Odin and Thor, but failing to join the Northern Pantheon. Each full-fleged god gets a vote in the Godsmoot. Banjo isn't part of the Eastern or Southern Pantheons, so he hasn't technically voted yet. His vote will save the world, but Hel will have revealed her hand by voting via her High Priest and the Order will no longer be able to ignore it.
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[[WMG:Hel's vote is going to cause a tie... that will be broken by Banjo the Clown]][[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0137.html This strip]] has banjo getting treated as a full-fleged god by Odin and Thor, but failing to join the Northern Pantheon. Each full-fleged god gets a vote in the Godsmoot. Banjo isn't part of the Eastern or Southern Pantheons, so he hasn't technically voted yet. His vote will save the world, but Hel will have reavealed her hand by voting via her High Priest and the Order will no longer be able to ignore it.
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[[WMG:Hel's vote is going to cause a tie... that will be broken by Banjo the Clown]][[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0137.html This strip]] has banjo getting treated as a full-fleged god by Odin and Thor, but failing to join the Northern Pantheon. Each full-fleged god gets a vote in the Godsmoot. Banjo isn't part of the Eastern or Southern Pantheons, so he hasn't technically voted yet. His vote will save the world, but Hel will have reavealed her hand by voting via her High Priest and the Order will no longer be able to ignore it.
[[WMG:Hel's vote is going to cause a tie... that will be broken by Banjo the Clown]][[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0137.html This strip]] has banjo getting treated as a full-fleged god by Odin and Thor, but failing to join the Northern Pantheon. Each full-fleged god gets a vote in the Godsmoot. Banjo isn't part of the Eastern or Southern Pantheons, so he hasn't technically voted yet. His vote will save the world, but Hel will have reavealed her hand by voting via her High Priest and the Order will no longer be able to ignore it.
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Four gates have been lost already and it appears that the Snarl is loose in the Empire of Blood. The gods want to stop the Snarl preemptively before it's able to come after them. You shoot a skunk in the road before it gets to the porch, after all.
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Four gates have been lost already and it appears that the Snarl is loose in the Empire of Blood. The gods want to stop the Snarl preemptively before it's able to come after them. You shoot a skunk in the road before it gets to the porch, after all.all.
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This may be a case of UnreliableNarrator. The world in the rift still exists, but is now devoid of any living creatures (which would be consistent with Laurin finding no trace of life in the ocean). Perhaps one day, after the Snarl is destroyed, it may yet be repopulated.
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This may be a case of UnreliableNarrator. The world in the rift still exists, but is now devoid of any living creatures (which would be consistent with Laurin finding no trace of life in the ocean). Perhaps one day, after the Snarl is destroyed, it may yet be repopulated.repopulated.
[[WMG: The Gods are voting to destroy the world because they're concerned about the Snarl.]]
Four gates have been lost already and it appears that the Snarl is loose in the Empire of Blood. The gods want to stop the Snarl preemptively before it's able to come after them. You shoot a skunk in the road before it gets to the porch, after all.
[[WMG: The Gods are voting to destroy the world because they're concerned about the Snarl.]]
Four gates have been lost already and it appears that the Snarl is loose in the Empire of Blood. The gods want to stop the Snarl preemptively before it's able to come after them. You shoot a skunk in the road before it gets to the porch, after all.
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[[WMG: The Snarl is Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya.]]
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[[WMG: The Snarl is Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya.LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya.]]
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It could be 2nd edition D&D, Exalted, World of Darkness, Call of Cthulhu or really any other RPG. Alternatively, it's {{Erfworld}}; that stuff about the two comics being unrelated is a total lie.
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It could be 2nd edition D&D, Exalted, World of Darkness, Call of Cthulhu or really any other RPG. Alternatively, it's {{Erfworld}}; {{Webcomic/Erfworld}}; that stuff about the two comics being unrelated is a total lie.
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* She's probably going to unleash the Snarl, then harvest the souls of everyone it kills via collateral damage instead of directly (because those will be [[DeaderThanDead soul-killed]]).
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* She's probably going to unleash the Snarl, then harvest the souls of everyone it kills via collateral damage instead of directly (because those will be [[DeaderThanDead soul-killed]]).soul-killed]]).
[[WMG: The world in the rift is the original world created by the gods, but the way the Snarl fed on it was not what we were made to think.]]
[[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0274.html Shojo's flashback]] is quite specific on the Snarl's attack on the original world. It mentions that it devoured every soul there, but the ''text'' mentions nothing about the world itself being destroyed; we're only shown it.
This may be a case of UnreliableNarrator. The world in the rift still exists, but is now devoid of any living creatures (which would be consistent with Laurin finding no trace of life in the ocean). Perhaps one day, after the Snarl is destroyed, it may yet be repopulated.
[[WMG: The world in the rift is the original world created by the gods, but the way the Snarl fed on it was not what we were made to think.]]
[[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0274.html Shojo's flashback]] is quite specific on the Snarl's attack on the original world. It mentions that it devoured every soul there, but the ''text'' mentions nothing about the world itself being destroyed; we're only shown it.
This may be a case of UnreliableNarrator. The world in the rift still exists, but is now devoid of any living creatures (which would be consistent with Laurin finding no trace of life in the ocean). Perhaps one day, after the Snarl is destroyed, it may yet be repopulated.
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Maybe she'll use it to subvert the Dark One's attempt to raise goblinkind to a higher standard by stepping in to control the Snarl at the last moment? Or something else entirely.
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Maybe she'll use it to subvert the Dark One's attempt to raise goblinkind to a higher standard by stepping in to control the Snarl at the last moment? Or something else entirely.entirely.
* She's probably going to unleash the Snarl, then harvest the souls of everyone it kills via collateral damage instead of directly (because those will be [[DeaderThanDead soul-killed]]).
* She's probably going to unleash the Snarl, then harvest the souls of everyone it kills via collateral damage instead of directly (because those will be [[DeaderThanDead soul-killed]]).
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[[WMG: Hel's master plan involves the summoning ritual]]
Maybe she'll use it to subvert the Dark One's attempt to raise goblinkind to a higher standard by stepping in to control the Snarl at the last moment? Or something else entirely.
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[[WMG:The Snark is an embodiment of storytelling conventions.]]
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[[WMG:The Snark is an embodiment of storytelling conventions.]]
Consider how Elan, the bard and the one most in touch with tropes, has started defying tropes, most notably by just telling Haley about Therkla, in defiance of Bardic tradition. Furthermore, he persuaded Julio Scoundrél to return and take on Tarquin by pointing out that the most heroic thing he could do would be to defy stories themselves - which Julio did by surviving.
This all points to Elan defying tropes more and more, which will reach its apogee at the very end, when he defies the Snarl, a cosmic entity made entirely of tropes.
Consider how Elan, the bard and the one most in touch with tropes, has started defying tropes, most notably by just telling Haley about Therkla, in defiance of Bardic tradition. Furthermore, he persuaded Julio Scoundrél to return and take on Tarquin by pointing out that the most heroic thing he could do would be to defy stories themselves - which Julio did by surviving.
This all points to Elan defying tropes more and more, which will reach its apogee at the very end, when he defies the Snarl, a cosmic entity made entirely of tropes.
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[[WMG:The world in the rift was made by The Dark one]]
just think abuot it, the dark one is the only god that seen interested in using the snarl. he probably found a way to use the threads that the snarl is made of and made his own world out of them.
just think abuot it, the dark one is the only god that seen interested in using the snarl. he probably found a way to use the threads that the snarl is made of and made his own world out of them.
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[[WMG:The world in the rift was made by The Dark one]]
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just thinkabuot about it, the dark one Dark One is the only god that seen interested in using the snarl. he He probably found a way to use the threads that the snarl is made of and made his own world out of them.
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[[WMG:the gods of the east didn't want to share the creation of the world with the other gods...]]
so they invented a ''snarl'', and pretended to be killed by him, so they could create world alone
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so they invented a ''snarl'', and pretended to be killed by him, so they could create a world
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[[WMG:The planet within the planet will be the final destination for goblinkind, with them all alive and well, as one facet of the Dark One's Plan.]]
The Dark One's Plan involves an ritual to help control the Snarl, which happens to be the purple energy seperating the outer world from the inner world. As it is, it is deadly to touch, but the ritual will allow transportation of goblinkind from the outer planet where they're hunted for sport into the inner planet where the inhabitants originally consumed by the Snarl will welcome the goblins as equals, like Little Green Men finally showing themselves to humanity. This will allow Burlew to reference Star Trek as well, and maybe even LongCat as the goblin's welcoming host.
* Part of the Dark One's Plan or not, Goblinkind finding their way to the planet within the planet could be one way of delivering an ending that, while happy for our heroes, does not ultimately shaft goblinkind. The world being unmade to make way for a world that is more fair towards goblinkind, would still be a loss for our heroes (the world being unmade would claim many lives, after all). On the other hand, the goblins not getting anything out of the deal, remaining XP-fodder for adventurers, would subvert the "being a monstrous humanoid does not mean you deserve to be killed"-theme Burlew has going. Solution: Goblinkind get a fair chance to make their own fortune on the planet within the planet (even more so if it is uninhabited, giving them an entirely clean slate), and the current planet gets to survive.
[[WMG: The IFCC engineered the Order's original confrontation with the younger black dragon.]]
Think about it; the Order was sent to get the starmetal by Sabine in disguise, ostensibly as a wild goose chase. But what if she actually sent them that way because she was ordered to by Director Lee? The Fiends could have known that that particular dragon's mother was quite vengeful, and so a good way to create a situation in which one of the order members required their help was to ensure that she had a reason to come after them.
* Except going after the starmetal was Nale's idea.
** It could be delaying them with a wild goose chase was Nale's idea, Sabine just helpfully "filled in the details".
* This is XanatosRoulette territory. The IFCC would have no way of predicting that V specifically would kill the dragon and incur the mother's wrath, when the mother would catch up with him, or that all his other options would run out - and V is the only member of the Order who would conceivably deal with archfiends in return for arcane power. Though they may well have been watching V for this opportunity for a long time in case ''something'' came up that would make him sell his soul for power.
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[[WMG: The Snarl never actually destroyed anyone or anything]]
The planet within the rift the is old world that the snarl supposedly "destroyed". The story of the Snarl that Shojo tells the Order may not be the true account. In fact, the gods themselves may be mistaken, believing that the gods of the East were killed when they really became part of the Snarl. In other words, anything the snarl gets its tendrils on is not killed but is instead transported to the Snarl's realm. The snarl himself may not even be evil, simply wanting to absorb things more "real" than itself for unknown reasons. So yeah, basically like a being from the [[{{Disworld}} dungeon dimensions]]
[[WMG: The world beyond the rift ''is'' The Snarl.]]
The Snarl has had an extremely long time to sort itself out. It was made by gods who were new at this whole world-making thing, and since their fight over what would and wouldn't be part of the world was childish and immature, the Snarl itself was childish and immature. The unstoppable rage that killed the Western gods was merely a collossal temper-tantrum. With however many years it's been since then, the Snarl has grown up, used its powers to raise the Western pantheon, and is now a stable world with stable gods and stable people.
* Oi! I came to the same sort of conclusion about seven [=WMGs=] up... though I didn't think of the "temper tantrum" angle... [+]I guess great minds think alike! [ ][[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 You stole from the WRONG man.]]
[[WMG:The world in the rift was made by The Dark one]]
just think abuot it, the dark one is the only god that seen interested in using the snarl. he probably found a way to use the threads that the snarl is made of and made his own world out of them.
[[WMG:[[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0432.html That Guy with a Halberd]] will return]]
Considering the fact that Thog still exists because of his surprising popularity, there's at least a fair chance this [[EnsembleDarkhorse unusually famous character]] will reappear at some point. Possible things he will do with his (hopefully) grand re-entrance include:
* [[DynamicEntry Cutting off Xykon's head]] (which, unfortunately, probably won't kill him)
* Distracting[=/=]Flanking someone (such as Redcloak) long enough for Haley to get in a dramatic Sneak Attack
* Speaking a single sentence in the background that [[LampshadeHanging hangs a lampshade on something]]
* Is given a name and revealed to be a high-ranking commander who is treated as though [[RetCon everyone knew him all along]]
* Rescues [[MemeticBadass O-Chul]] from some catastrophe
* Asks Hinjo where [[RunningGag he would like]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0546.html a lampshade hung]]
* Says one line, then gets killed
[[WMG:the gods of the east didn't want to share the creation of the world with the other gods...]]
so they invented a ''snarl'', and pretended to be killed by him, so they could create world alone
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* Tying this with the "Belkar really is a God of War" WMG, maybe Mr. Scruffy/Cat is trying to get both of them awakened as part of the new gods to replace some of the dead ones?
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* Tying this with the "Belkar really is a God of War" WMG, maybe Mr. Scruffy/Cat is trying to get both of them awakened as part of the new gods to replace some of the dead ones?ones?
[[WMG: The Snarl doesn't exist.]]
Soon's wife was killed by the gods as a gambit to have the Order of the Scibble created so someone would build the Gates and lock off the other world inside the main one. The whole tale about the Snarl is a huge pile of lies made up to justify their actions. This way, the heroes work as unwilling jailors for the other world imprisoned within their own.
** This is quite possible, as every single depiction of the snarl has been second hand in a crayon drawing- Xykon was destroyed by the rune preventing entry to the rift, not the rift itself. As such, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that both the bearers of the crimson mantle and the rest of the cast have been deliberately misled.
An alternative version is that the Snarl was created by the gods as a defence mechanism, a part of the planet itself, to convince anyone living on the [[Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick Order of the Stick]] planet to close any leaks that might let people escape from the other planet.
[[WMG: The Eastern Gods didn't die.]]
They're imprisoned on the other planet inside the main one.
[[WMG: The Other Planet is [[EarthAllAlong Earth]].]]
That's why people killed by the Snarl can't be resurrected. They're not dead; they're now living out ordinary lives in modern earth.
* When this is revealed, someone, probably V, will complain about what a cliche it is.
* Jossed by Rich.
[[WMG: The Other Planet is the World of ScienceFiction.]]
Only because it would be [[RuleOfFunny funny]].
[[WMG: The Other Planet is the last one the Gods designed; it follows another RPG's rules.]]
It could be 2nd edition D&D, Exalted, World of Darkness, Call of Cthulhu or really any other RPG. Alternatively, it's {{Erfworld}}; that stuff about the two comics being unrelated is a total lie.
[[WMG: The Other Planet was created by the Snarl]]
The Snarl angered by the fact it was formed from the residue of the many panthon of gods when they were creating the planet and imprisoned in their second creation of the world, it decides it could make a better world by its own without having to argue anyone else. The Snarl's world is managed by a pantheon of Canaanite-abrahamic Gods, and the Snarl is the head of this Pantheon and its name is Ēl ʿElyōn. The first God created by the Snarl would be named Yahweh
[[WMG: The Snarl merged with the previous world.]]
So instead of looking like a giant scribble it's now Ego the Living Planet, only even more powerful and insane.
[[WMG: The Three Amigos of Evil were lying]]
Or at least obscuring the truth from the imp. It's true they don't want Xykon to control the gates, but they're not telling the whole truth, they want the gates themselves, and they only the soul of a sufficiently powerful divine caster to do it, they have V, they just need Redcloak's help.
[[WMG: The Other World is 4th Edition]]
It would be interesting to see the two interact.
[[WMG: The Snarl does not exist anymore]]
Oh sure, it still existed in some form during Soon's time, what with the claws from the voids, but notice how this hasn't happened since the gates were sealed. Even with the prisoners so dangerously close to the Sapphire rift, nothing happened: no stringy arm lashed out to take anything. My theory is this: over time, the Snarl, which is made of strands of creation, eventually began to unwind. Without anything to lash out at or destroy within its prison of creation, the threads found themselves loosening, unraveling; the knot that was the snarl began to undo itself. Until eventually, the un-knotted strands of creation within the rift fell back into their intended shape: [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0672.html a world]].
[[WMG: The Snarl doesn't exist.]]
Soon's wife was killed by the gods as a gambit to have the Order of the Scibble created so someone would build the Gates and lock off the other world inside the main one. The whole tale about the Snarl is a huge pile of lies made up to justify their actions. This way, the heroes work as unwilling jailors for the other world imprisoned within their own.
** This is quite possible, as every single depiction of the snarl has been second hand in a crayon drawing- Xykon was destroyed by the rune preventing entry to the rift, not the rift itself. As such, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that both the bearers of the crimson mantle and the rest of the cast have been deliberately misled.
An alternative version is that the Snarl was created by the gods as a defence mechanism, a part of the planet itself, to convince anyone living on the [[Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick Order of the Stick]] planet to close any leaks that might let people escape from the other planet.
[[WMG: The Eastern Gods didn't die.]]
They're imprisoned on the other planet inside the main one.
[[WMG: The Other Planet is [[EarthAllAlong Earth]].]]
That's why people killed by the Snarl can't be resurrected. They're not dead; they're now living out ordinary lives in modern earth.
* When this is revealed, someone, probably V, will complain about what a cliche it is.
* Jossed by Rich.
[[WMG: The Other Planet is the World of ScienceFiction.]]
Only because it would be [[RuleOfFunny funny]].
[[WMG: The Other Planet is the last one the Gods designed; it follows another RPG's rules.]]
It could be 2nd edition D&D, Exalted, World of Darkness, Call of Cthulhu or really any other RPG. Alternatively, it's {{Erfworld}}; that stuff about the two comics being unrelated is a total lie.
[[WMG: The Other Planet was created by the Snarl]]
The Snarl angered by the fact it was formed from the residue of the many panthon of gods when they were creating the planet and imprisoned in their second creation of the world, it decides it could make a better world by its own without having to argue anyone else. The Snarl's world is managed by a pantheon of Canaanite-abrahamic Gods, and the Snarl is the head of this Pantheon and its name is Ēl ʿElyōn. The first God created by the Snarl would be named Yahweh
[[WMG: The Snarl merged with the previous world.]]
So instead of looking like a giant scribble it's now Ego the Living Planet, only even more powerful and insane.
[[WMG: The Three Amigos of Evil were lying]]
Or at least obscuring the truth from the imp. It's true they don't want Xykon to control the gates, but they're not telling the whole truth, they want the gates themselves, and they only the soul of a sufficiently powerful divine caster to do it, they have V, they just need Redcloak's help.
[[WMG: The Other World is 4th Edition]]
It would be interesting to see the two interact.
[[WMG: The Snarl does not exist anymore]]
Oh sure, it still existed in some form during Soon's time, what with the claws from the voids, but notice how this hasn't happened since the gates were sealed. Even with the prisoners so dangerously close to the Sapphire rift, nothing happened: no stringy arm lashed out to take anything. My theory is this: over time, the Snarl, which is made of strands of creation, eventually began to unwind. Without anything to lash out at or destroy within its prison of creation, the threads found themselves loosening, unraveling; the knot that was the snarl began to undo itself. Until eventually, the un-knotted strands of creation within the rift fell back into their intended shape: [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0672.html a world]].
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[[WMG: The Snarl did not kill the Eastern pantheon]]
The other gods did in a particularly heated argument which also involved starting the world over. The snarl was just a cover story, deliberately put in the new world as such, and will not actually do anything much if released or controlled.
[[WMG: Mr. Scruffy is the Thirteenth God of the Twelve Gods.]]
Mr. Scruffy is a Cat so why not? If The Twelve Gods are the Chinese zodiac, Why not Thirteenth Zodiac?
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac Because that's not how Zodiac signs work.]] To sum up: over the year, the sun follows a path through the sky. Any constellation that crosses this line is a Zodiac sign. You cannot simply add another Zodiac without re-arranging the constellations on the sky. (That said: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus In the west we actually do have 13 Zodiacs, we just ignore one of them because the Sun passes through it in about a day]]).
** Wrong. "Zodiac" literally means "circle of animals", which is why the word is used for the Chinese zodiac. But the Chinese zodiac has ''nothing to do'' with the constellations the sun passes through.
*** According to legend, Cat would have been a thirteenth (Chinese) zodiac sign, but his good friend, Rat, played a trick on him.
* Tying this with the "Belkar really is a God of War" WMG, maybe Mr. Scruffy/Cat is trying to get both of them awakened as part of the new gods to replace some of the dead ones?
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[[WMG: The Snarl is Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya.]]
It's not so much "evil" as "really bored". They both have the power to unmake reality, and can cause major disruptions in space-time just by being there. This could actually be the origin of Haruhi and her powers, which show up in [[GrandUnifyingGuesses many other media]]: the personified frustration and ennui of an entire world. Clearly, by the end of the comic's Main/MythArc, The Snarl will be released, unmake the webcomic reality, and remake one more similar to our modern Earth, with plenty of anime tropes thrown in; the only effect of our heroes will be to wipe her memories of this, and make her into a human girl.
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* 668 confirms that what they want out of him has ''something'' to do with the Gates...Gates...
[[WMG: The agents of hell need a willing Good/Neutral soul for some sort of summoning or power upgrade.]]
By entering the contract wherein V's soul goes to each underworld being for the same amount of time he had been fused with the other souls, they can use him as a sacrifice after he dies to exploit a loophole where something can only occur/escape if a willing good or neutral soul is sacrificed in the deepest pit of hell by the combined power of all three eternally-warring faction leaders. The only way they could do that is by fulfilling such a contract as they offered V, then allowing the soul to be under their domain at the same time ("Exact order of custody to be determined").
[[WMG: The agents of hell need a willing Good/Neutral soul for some sort of summoning or power upgrade.]]
By entering the contract wherein V's soul goes to each underworld being for the same amount of time he had been fused with the other souls, they can use him as a sacrifice after he dies to exploit a loophole where something can only occur/escape if a willing good or neutral soul is sacrificed in the deepest pit of hell by the combined power of all three eternally-warring faction leaders. The only way they could do that is by fulfilling such a contract as they offered V, then allowing the soul to be under their domain at the same time ("Exact order of custody to be determined").
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* [[WMG/TheOrderOfTheStickJossed Jossed Theories]]
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* [[WMG/TheOrderOfTheStickTheOrderOfTheStick Theories on the Order]]
* [[WMG/TheOrderOfTheStickTeamEvil Theories on Team Evil]]
* [[WMG/TheOrderOfTheStickTheLinearGuild Theories on the Linear Guild]]
* [[WMG/TheOrderOfTheStickDivineBeings Theories on Divine Beings]]
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* [[WMG/TheOrderOfTheStickJossed Jossed Theories]]
* [[WMG/TheOrderOfTheStickConfirmed Confirmed Theories]]
* [[WMG/TheOrderOfTheStickTheOrderOfTheStick Theories on the Order]]
* [[WMG/TheOrderOfTheStickTeamEvil Theories on Team Evil]]
* [[WMG/TheOrderOfTheStickTheLinearGuild Theories on the Linear Guild]]
* [[WMG/TheOrderOfTheStickDivineBeings Theories on Divine Beings]]
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[[WMG: The Snarl will be released, and the heroes will [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu take it down]]. Or maybe not...]]
When Shojo was telling the story of the Snarl's creation, he mentioned that the Gods were extremely vulnerable, even stating that "[[GodsHandsAreTied some theorized since that gods were even MORE vulnerable to the Snarl than a mortal of the same level would have been]]". This could hint that when the series approaches the end, the heroes will be of a high enough level to compete with the Gods. Furthermore, someone (which could be Redcloak, Xykon, or even Vaarsuvius as theorized above) will succeed in releasing the Snarl. The result: a no-holds-barred brawl with the fate of the world. The obvious result would be the heroes winning, and the world saved. However, as stated in one of the above entries, the "heroes save the day" trope doesn't have that many subversions, and Rich has never been one to follow the standard route for tropes, so it's entirely possible that he's planning on being one of the few subversions.
* Alternatively: The Snarl is released, and the world ends -- but all or some (most likely including Elan) of the Order influence the creation of the world ''after'' that. If Elan is involved, he makes sure that the old Order is in some way brought back just the way it was.
[[WMG: The IFCC will use V's soul to get information on the Gates once they have it]]
Seems likely after 637. Also, remember that if V ends the Soul Splice right now, they'll each only have it for about 5 minutes.
* They definitely want something out of him beyond just "testing" the splice.
* 668 confirms that what they want out of him has ''something'' to do with the Gates...
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[[WMG: The Order of the Stick will lose and the last strip will be the gods going "Damn, we have to make the world again?"]]
Because of all the tropes out there, hero saves the day is short far too many subvertions.
* It will be a happy ending for Elan.
** He'll be spared as High Priest of Banjo.
*** Elan would be miserable anyway, without his friends, especially Roy and Haley.
[[WMG:The Snarl will be released and unmake the world, and several of the characters will ascend to godhood in order to remake it.]]
Most likely, the new pantheon will include at least Vaarsuvius (who will obtain ultimate power), Redcloak (who has it as his entire goal), Elan (the Oracle said he'd have a happy ending), and Banjo the Clown.
* My theory is that Banjo, being a puppet god, is controlled by whoever's hand is in the puppet. So Elan will be saved because he ''is'' Banjo. And that might not include Redcloak; the Dark One is already a god and that's all Redcloak needs.
* Redcloak might well replace the Dark One as a God maybe. A lot of 'The Dark One isn't on the up and up' theories are floating around, and if Redcloak finds out he let all those Goblins die for nothing I wouldn't put it beyond him to unleash the Snarl on his former master.
* I hope that the heroes and even the Gods fight a final battle with the Snarl after it is released. The heroes AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence and fill the vacancy left by the Gods who perished in the battle and use their power to rebuild the Multiverse that was destroyed in the battle. The catch is that they do not and possibly even cannot understand the world's workings and they recreate the world differently than it was before. This leads to a 4th-edition-based world. The heroes decide that the new world is so wonderful that they reincarnate themselves to become adventurers, except for a few others who become the new Gods including Vaarsuvius who becomes the new Corellon-type God.
** Redcloak's opinion about paladins made him invent the forth edition paladins(that doesn't have to be lawful good)!!
[[WMG:Banjo the Clown is really TheChessmaster who is controlling all of the other characters]]
Think of the irony: Banjo is the only literal puppet in the strip, but all of the other characters are actually "puppets" to him!
[[WMG:The Dark One isn't quite on the up and up.]]
Redcloak claims that goblins and the other monster races were created for the sole reason of grinding XP for the hero races. But then we have Kobolds and Lizardmen who have deific patrons (and the Kobold's deific patron is Tiamat, one of the original deities), which makes me wonder if the Dark One is conveniently ignoring things like, say, human bandits and roleplaying as sources of XP.
* Depends on your house rules as to whether "Good Acting" applies. Besides, it's not saying that the monster races are the only source of XP -- just that the only reason they EXIST is as one of the many sources of XP.
** Roleplaying XP clearly exists in the [[Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick Order of the Stick]] universe.
** I kinda get the whole ''[[Film/TheMatrix Animatrix]]'' "Second Renaissance" vibe where, despite being presented as fact, it just sounds too... propagandized, to really seem true. There's probably a good deal of truth, but a lot was exaggerated, and some details omitted.
* To me, the Dark One ''has'' to be evil- because the only thing that justifies fantasy heroes killing their enemies is when they are evil (or mindless). To think that Redcloak's story is true and humans just started killing goblins for its sake is taking morality issues a little too far (especially for a humorous strip.) In the early D&D editions, it was made clear that monsters CANNOT change their alignment, unlike humans and demihumans; goblins are just born evil and are always evil, which justifies killing them off. I dunno if this applies to the current edition, but it should. Sure, there can be rare exceptions (just as there monster mutations) so heroes cannot have to be careful, but in general, goblins deserve to die; the XP they give is inconsequential.
** And I say just having an Evil alignment isn't enough to deserve being killed if you're not doing anything actively evil. Which is presumably what happened to Redcloak's village: they were all Evil, but weren't doing anything evil.
*** And the Book of Exalted Deeds would agree with you. Besides, Burlew ''loves'' subverting tropes. AlwaysChaoticEvil is a trope.
**** Or the Dark One used to be just like Redcloak but never had a MyGodWhatHaveIDone Redloak had when a hobgoblin saved his life, as a result he became a KnightTemplar, as a result turned the monster races into the AlwaysChaoticEvil they are now, he enlist Redcloak to fix his mistakes (or finshed what he started aka kill all PC races)
*** We ''know'' the Dark One's backstory, though, and it's nothing like that.
**** Yes because we all know gods don't lie or history is never fudge or anything like that.
* Perhaps he was telling the truth about the origin of the monstrous humanoids, but unlike, say, the Iron Golems orc fans, the jungle island orcs, or the lizardfolk and kobolds of the Western Continent, he refuses to consider alternatives.
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[[WMG: The Snarl is actually Kratos.]]
* That's why it killed the Eastern Pantheon... and why it saved Zeus for last.
[[WMG: The Snarl is one of the nine forces.]]
* It hates everyone, it has been shown to be an omnicidal manic (or a beast, we don't know how smart it is.) it was suggested that there being more then one gate intact has stopped it noticing the rifts, so when the last gate is being fought for, it will be happily trying to to kill everyone too!
[[WMG: The Eastern Gods aren't quite Dead]]
Or have been reincarnated in the form of the Order of the Stick. Roy=Zeus, Belkar=Ares, V=Athena, Elan=Hermes, Haley=Aphrodite(?), Durkon=Hephaestus (which would probably piss him right off).
* How about Artemis = Haley (Archer, Sneaky, intimacy issues...)
* Elan=Apollo. Both are allegedly attractive, and linked to music and storytelling.
** Actually, Roy is more remmeniscant of Hades, the OnlySaneMan of the Greek pantheon.
* V could be Hermes, who has a connection to magic and an androgynous son. Durkon could be Athena, since cleric is a wisdom-based class.
