History WMG / TheForceUnleashed

** What self-respecting Mandalorian would ever allow one of their own to become a Jedi? I mean it's canon that they hate each others guts.

Think about it. The code for unlocking him is MANDALORE, his GeneralRipper attitude falls in line with their ProudWarriorRaceGuy shtick, his armor looks Mandalorian and according to the backstory, he fought in the trenches of a civil war in his (suspiciously unspecified) homeplanet. And his age matches with the date of the Mandalorian Civil War...

*** I'm not saying Galen is some low level weakling, he's a badass. But Luke moved a BLACK HOLE. When Galen does that I consed.

** IMHO, Vader was telling the truth when he reconstructed Starkiller on the Empirical after he was stabbed and thrown into space. Then, when Starkiller released all of his Force Energy in the explosion that bought the Rebels time but killed him on the Death Star, Vader used Sith Magic to force (if you'll pardon the pun) part of Starkiller (the part with his powers and some of his useful memories) into either a growing clone of Starkiller or his original body (most likely the former), but Starkiller's spirit was so strong that the peice Vader "discarded" came back to him, and just needs time to reorganise itself into Starkiller 2.0. This is why Palpatine's clones (and Starkiller) don't go insane - the insane essence of the clone is destroyed, replaced with Starkiller/Palpatine's. (Palpatine possessing his clones is canon - the power, called the ritual of essence transfer, is first mentioned in Darth Bane Dynasty of Evil). Just my theory, but it explains why Starkiller .

** That can't work. Droids cannot use TheForce, no matter how good their technology. Even assuming that this PROXY clone could emulate Vader's force powers, it could never mimic Vader's force presence, which Starkiller of all people would be able to recognize.

* So Starkiller is a [[TheVentureBrothers Venture Brother?]]

** The Star Destroyer he pulled out of orbit argues otherwise.

Galen is shown to be stronger than Vader but could only draw with Palpatine. Both of them were on equal footing, despite Galen's young age and healthy body, because Galen just spent a lot of energy beating up Vader. Anakin or Luke could have beaten Galen in a fight if they were healthy and fully trained.

[[WMG:'''''If''''' Force Unleashed 3 ever gets made, one boss or mini-boss battle will be against a [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Terentatek terentatek]]]]

[[WMG: The Starkiller in [=TFU2=] is the original, and after the Dark Apprentice was finished, Vader set Starkiller loose, as part of a XanatosGambit.]]

** The whole game might be a Xanatos Gambit by Vader; He releases the (clearly flawed) Starkiller clone- I mean, Vader wasn't even trying when he said he'd execute him- to lure General Kota and a significant portion of the Rebel Alliance onto Genosis. The Dark Apprentice kills everyone; Vader doesn't need any more clones of Starkiller, because he now has one that is totally loyal to him. The Dark Apprentice is most likely destroyed, or simply goes missing, in one of Luke Skywalker's Expanded Universe adventures, preferably written by Matthew Stover. Or he simply wasn't meant to have a long lifespan.

** IMHO, Vader was telling the truth when he reconstructed Starkiller on the Empirical after he was stabbed and thrown into space. Then, when Starkiller released all of his Force Energy in the explosion that bought the Rebels time but killed him on the Death Star, Vader used Sith Magic to force (if you'll pardon the pun) part of Starkiller (the part with his powers and some of his useful memories) into either a growing clone of Starkiller or his original body (most likely the former), but Starkiller's spirit was so strong that the peice Vader "discarded" came back to him, and just needs time to reorganise itself into Starkiller 2. Just my theory.

[[WMG:'''''If''''' Force Unleashed 3 ever gets made, one boss or mini-boss battle will be against a [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Terentatek terentatek]]

** That can't work. Droids cannot use TheForce, no matter how good their technology. Even assuming that this PROXY clone could emulate Vader's force powers, it could never mimic Vader's force presence, which Starkiller of all people would be able to recognize.

[[WMG: The Starkiller in TFU2 is the original, and after the Dark Apprentice was finished, Vader set Starkiller loose, as part of a XanatosGambit.]]

* The apprentice went with Boba Fett and the Slave One after the Rogue Shadow in the good ending and fights through the rebel base with maxed out force powers, rescues Vader but will be killed in the attack. The rest of the game will starr a new stable clone from the improved cloning project who starts out with little force powers (like in TFU1). Maybe there will even be an optional co-op campaign with two clones like in a more mature LEGO Star Wars game.

** That can't work. Droids cannot use TheForce, no matter how good their technology.

Vader realized the utility of having an army of Starkiller clones, so it's not impossible that he would also consider mass-producing PROXY droids with the intention of making them into sleeper agents. In this case, one of them impersonated Vader for the final battle of [=TFU2=], so that no matter whether Starkiller chose to kill or capture it, Vader himself wouldn't be at personal risk. If-and-when The Force Unleashed 3 comes out, the first mission will involve this PROXY droid managing to work its way out of rebel security and creating subterfuge.

[[WMG: The "Vader" that Starkiller captures in [=TFU2=] is actually a PROXY-type droid.]]
Vader realized the utility of having an army of Starkiller clones, so it's not impossible that he would also consider mass-producing PROXY droids with the intention of making them into sleeper agents. In this case, one of them impersonated Vader for the final battle of [=TFU2=], so that no matter whether Starkiller chose to kill or capture it, Vader himself [[FightingAShadow wouldn't be at personal risk]]. If-and-when The Force Unleashed 3 comes out, the first mission will involve this PROXY droid managing to work its way out of rebel security and creating subterfuge.

[[WMG: The "Vader" that Starkiller captures in TFU2 is actually a PROXY-type droid.]]
Vader realized the utility of having an army of Starkiller clones, so it's not impossible that he would also consider mass-producing PROXY droids with the intention of making them into sleeper agents. In this case, one of them impersonated Vader for the final battle of TF2, so that no matter whether Starkiller chose to kill or capture it, Vader himself [[FightingAShadow wouldn't be at personal risk]]. If-and-when The Force Unleashed 3 comes out, the first mission will involve this PROXY droid managing to work its way out of rebel security and creating subterfuge.

* Think about it. Anakin is the type who would want to "take care" of his ex-Padawan himself - turn her if he can, kill her if he can't. ItsPersonal with him, especially with anyone he actually came to care for (see Obi-Wan for an example). Galen witnessed the fight, was too young to really understand what was going on...but was impressed enough by her to adopt her unorthodox lightsaber style.

* The apprentice went with Boba Fett and the Slave One after the Rogue Shadow in the good ending and fights through the rebel base with maxed out force powers, rescues Vader but will be killed in the attack. The rest of the game will starr a new stable clone from the improved cloning project who starts out with little force powers (like in TFU1). Maybe there will even be an optional co-op campaign with two clones like in a more mature LEGO Star Wars game.

*** That...actually kind of makes sense.

** IMHO, Vader was telling the truth when he reconstructed Starkiller on the Empirical after he was stabbed and thrown into space. Then, when Starkiller released all of his Force Energy in the explosion that bought the Rebels time but killed him on the Death Star, Vader used Sith Magic to force (if you'll pardon the pun) part of Starkiller (the part with his powers and some of his useful memories) into either a growing clone of Starkiller or his original body (most likely the former), but Starkiller's spirit was so strong that the peice Vader "discarded" came back to him, and just needs time to reorganise itself into Starkiller 2. Just my theory.

* Palpatine did the same thing with his clones. And one of the downloadable costumes for the first game was Starkiller as a force ghost. It would explain any inconstancy with the clone. Galen's also much more inexperienced than Palps, so that may account for why the memories aren't there.

* It would explain why there are no super-powered Jedi, or robots capable of imitating a human during the original trilogy, as well as contribute to Ben's powerful force heebie-jeebies when Alderaan was destroyed.

** The novel more or less gives this some basis in fact, as Starkiller has a vision of the Dark Side ending. As for the Starkiller that the Dark Apprentice saw, it was an unconcsious Starkiller, revived as part of Vader's gambit to find the hidden Rebel base.

* Basically, if the real Starkiller manges to do as Vader hopes, Vader throws the fight, and waits to see what happens...He probably ordered the Dark Apprentice to intervene should Starkiller decide to kill Vader, and ordered him to sneak in if he was captured.