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* So Starkiller is a [[WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers Venture Brother?]]
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* So Starkiller is a [[WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers [[WesternAnimation/TheVentureBros Venture Brother?]]
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** Jossed, as we know Ahsoka survives past The Original Trilogy. Doesn't mean that Starkiller wasn't inspired by her, though.
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** It would also explain why the Empire decided to blow up an entire planet for [[ForTheEvulz teh evils]], they knew [[MemeticBadass Starkiller]] was on the planet, and a killsat strike was [[ItsTheOnlyWayToBeSure The Only Way To Be Sure]]
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** It would also explain why the Empire decided to blow up an entire planet for [[ForTheEvulz teh evils]], they knew [[MemeticBadass Starkiller]] was on the planet, and a killsat strike was [[ItsTheOnlyWayToBeSure The Only Way To Be Sure]]Sure]].
** Kota notably appears in ''[[VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontEliteSquadron Elite Squadron]]'' as a supporting character, but strangely disappears from the plot shortly before the Battle of Yavin. Perhaps he was on his way there when he last briefed X2?
** Kota notably appears in ''[[VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontEliteSquadron Elite Squadron]]'' as a supporting character, but strangely disappears from the plot shortly before the Battle of Yavin. Perhaps he was on his way there when he last briefed X2?
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* Palpatine did the same thing with his clones. And one of the downloadable costumes for the first game was Starkiller as a force ghost. It would explain any inconstancy with the clone. Galen's also much more inexperienced than Palps, so that may account for why the memories aren't there.
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* Palpatine did the same thing with his clones. And one of the downloadable costumes for the first game was Starkiller as a force Force ghost. It would explain any inconstancy with the clone. Galen's also much more inexperienced than Palps, so that may account for why the memories aren't there.
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**I like this. It would also explain his distrust of the clones.
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*** Just in sheer raw potential, I'd peg Starkiller as right about on par with Anakin. But Anakin would have one big advantage over Starkiller, in that he had proper, formal training, from multiple Masters. Starkiller, on the other hand, has mostly self-taught skill, backed only by a metric crapton of raw power and undirected anger.
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** Some Force-users are also just especially talented in a particular aspect of the Force. For example, the [[ComicBook/XWingSeries Halcyon family]] tend to be really good at illusions and energy absorption. Maybe Starkiller just has that kind of affinity for essence transfer, and his soul migrated into a clone without even realizing it.
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** Some Force-users are also just especially talented in a particular aspect of the Force. For example, the [[ComicBook/XWingSeries [[Literature/XWingSeries Halcyon family]] tend to be really good at illusions and energy absorption. Maybe Starkiller just has that kind of affinity for essence transfer, and his soul migrated into a clone without even realizing it.
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** [[{{Handwave}} The droid had a built-in device that clouds the minds of force sensitive.]] Everybody just assumed that Vader was masking his presence to try and catch them off-guard.
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[[WMG: Vader's Lambda shuttle broke down.]]
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[[WMG: At the beginning of the Force Unleashed II, Vader's Lambda shuttle broke down.]]
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[[WMG: Vader's Lambda shuttle broke down]]
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[[WMG: Vader's Lambda shuttle broke down]]down.]]
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[[WMG: Vader's shuttle broke down]]
Which is why he takes his fighter to Kamino
Which is why he takes his fighter to Kamino
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[[WMG: Vader's Lambda shuttle broke down]]
Which is why he takes hisfighter TIE Advanced x1 to KaminoKamino.
Which is why he takes his
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Halfway through the second game, Starkiller visits the Dark Side cave on Dagobah and has a vision, which sets in motion the second half of the game. Then, when you get to Kamino, there's that creepy section where you're travelling through a dark corridor, voices are calling to you, the environment shifts in strange ways, and Darth Vader attacks you out of nowhere before vanishing again. Even during the first time this troper played it, he was convinced that it was AllJustADream. Following the capture of Vader, the vision revealed dire consequences for Starkiller's actions (essentially meddling with the established continuity) and he decided to back down and go into seclusion, perhaps pursing a less. . . destructive course of letting Juno know he (maybe) was still alive. He changed his name, downplayed his Force Sensitivity, and became one of the other canonical Force-Sensitives Luke picked up to join his new Jedi Academy, years later.
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Halfway through the second game, Starkiller visits the Dark Side cave on Dagobah and has a vision, which sets in motion the second half of the game. Then, when you get to Kamino, there's that creepy section where you're travelling through a dark corridor, voices are calling to you, the environment shifts in strange ways, and Darth Vader attacks you out of nowhere before vanishing again. Even during the first time this troper played it, he was convinced that it was AllJustADream. Following the capture of Vader, the vision revealed dire consequences for Starkiller's actions (essentially meddling with the established continuity) and he decided to back down and go into seclusion, perhaps pursing a less. . . destructive course of letting Juno know he (maybe) was still alive. He changed his name, downplayed his Force Sensitivity, and became one of the other canonical Force-Sensitives Luke picked up to join his new Jedi Academy, years later.later.
[[WMG: Vader's shuttle broke down]]
Which is why he takes his fighter to Kamino
[[WMG: Vader's shuttle broke down]]
Which is why he takes his fighter to Kamino
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[[WMG: Starkiller witnessed the death of [[StarWarsTheCloneWars Ahsoka Tano]].]]
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[[WMG: Starkiller witnessed the death of [[StarWarsTheCloneWars [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars Ahsoka Tano]].]]
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** Some Force-users are also just especially talented in a particular aspect of the Force. For example, the [[XWingSeries Halcyon family]] tend to be really good at illusions and energy absorption. Maybe Starkiller just has that kind of affinity for essence transfer, and his soul migrated into a clone without even realizing it.
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** Some Force-users are also just especially talented in a particular aspect of the Force. For example, the [[XWingSeries [[ComicBook/XWingSeries Halcyon family]] tend to be really good at illusions and energy absorption. Maybe Starkiller just has that kind of affinity for essence transfer, and his soul migrated into a clone without even realizing it.
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*** Annie is playing Juno. The character with the deepest background and most emotional turmoil. Plus, her BeligerentSexualTension with Pete's Jedi, which seems to be a hallmark of her characters.
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*** Annie is playing Juno. The character with the deepest background and most emotional turmoil. Plus, her BeligerentSexualTension BelligerentSexualTension with Pete's Jedi, which seems to be a hallmark of her characters.
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** So, that would mean:
*** Annie is playing Juno. The character with the deepest background and most emotional turmoil. Plus, her BeligerentSexualTension with Pete's Jedi, which seems to be a hallmark of her characters.
*** Jim is playing Rham Kota. His "brilliant" plan to randomly attack Imperials until Vader shows up, then take him out. When Pete went ahead and "killed" him, he talked with the GM and arranged to be blinded instead, so he could sit back in the spaceship and pester Pete with "brilliant" plans over the comlink. The GM agreed because, hey, pestering Pete.
*** Sally is PROXY. She liked playing C-3PO so much, she wanted to play someone like Threepio, but cooler. Pete walked her through the droid construction rules. He was very disappointed when she took the flaw "Programmed to kill one specific being," instead of something like "Bad at Dance," until she pointed out that her target was Pete, and she'd be so thoroughly unable to kill him that it would never come up in play. Pete had never been more proud of her.
*** Ben is Bail Organa. Again missing for a few sessions, he showed up, took over that character, and tried to nudge the story back on track by suggesting clandestine meetings and sabotage of Imperial facilities. Then Pete decided to yank a Star Destroyer out of the sky.
*** Annie is playing Juno. The character with the deepest background and most emotional turmoil. Plus, her BeligerentSexualTension with Pete's Jedi, which seems to be a hallmark of her characters.
*** Jim is playing Rham Kota. His "brilliant" plan to randomly attack Imperials until Vader shows up, then take him out. When Pete went ahead and "killed" him, he talked with the GM and arranged to be blinded instead, so he could sit back in the spaceship and pester Pete with "brilliant" plans over the comlink. The GM agreed because, hey, pestering Pete.
*** Sally is PROXY. She liked playing C-3PO so much, she wanted to play someone like Threepio, but cooler. Pete walked her through the droid construction rules. He was very disappointed when she took the flaw "Programmed to kill one specific being," instead of something like "Bad at Dance," until she pointed out that her target was Pete, and she'd be so thoroughly unable to kill him that it would never come up in play. Pete had never been more proud of her.
*** Ben is Bail Organa. Again missing for a few sessions, he showed up, took over that character, and tried to nudge the story back on track by suggesting clandestine meetings and sabotage of Imperial facilities. Then Pete decided to yank a Star Destroyer out of the sky.
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What a shame it's never going to happen.
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What a shame it's never going to happen.happen.
[[WMG: The second half of the second game is an illusion.]]
Halfway through the second game, Starkiller visits the Dark Side cave on Dagobah and has a vision, which sets in motion the second half of the game. Then, when you get to Kamino, there's that creepy section where you're travelling through a dark corridor, voices are calling to you, the environment shifts in strange ways, and Darth Vader attacks you out of nowhere before vanishing again. Even during the first time this troper played it, he was convinced that it was AllJustADream. Following the capture of Vader, the vision revealed dire consequences for Starkiller's actions (essentially meddling with the established continuity) and he decided to back down and go into seclusion, perhaps pursing a less. . . destructive course of letting Juno know he (maybe) was still alive. He changed his name, downplayed his Force Sensitivity, and became one of the other canonical Force-Sensitives Luke picked up to join his new Jedi Academy, years later.
[[WMG: The second half of the second game is an illusion.]]
Halfway through the second game, Starkiller visits the Dark Side cave on Dagobah and has a vision, which sets in motion the second half of the game. Then, when you get to Kamino, there's that creepy section where you're travelling through a dark corridor, voices are calling to you, the environment shifts in strange ways, and Darth Vader attacks you out of nowhere before vanishing again. Even during the first time this troper played it, he was convinced that it was AllJustADream. Following the capture of Vader, the vision revealed dire consequences for Starkiller's actions (essentially meddling with the established continuity) and he decided to back down and go into seclusion, perhaps pursing a less. . . destructive course of letting Juno know he (maybe) was still alive. He changed his name, downplayed his Force Sensitivity, and became one of the other canonical Force-Sensitives Luke picked up to join his new Jedi Academy, years later.
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[[WMG: The series is a campaign played by the DarthsAndDroids players.]]
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[[WMG: The series is a campaign played by the DarthsAndDroids ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'' players.]]
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At the end of [=TFU2=], Vader is captured and the rebels are taking him to their secret base. That seems like a pretty bad idea in and of itself, but it's even more so considering the existence of the Dark Apprentice. In the Dark Side ending, the Dark Apprentice reveals himself by deactivating his personal cloaking device and kills Starkiller. In the Light Side ending, he does not appear at all. But that doesn't mean he's not there! It is shown in one of the bonus cutscenes that prior to the final confrontation with Starkiller, Vader instructed the Dark Apprentice to not reveal himself unless absolutely necessary. In the Dark Side ending, Starkiller is about to kill Vader, so the Dark Apprentice reveals himself. In the Light Side ending, he doesn't need to do that, so he just remains invisible and simply walks aboard the ship that the rebels use to transport Vader. As soon as the ship arrives at the hidden rebel base, the Dark Apprentice frees Vader, at which point the player assumes control of Vader and murders ''everybody''.
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At the end of [=TFU2=], Vader is captured and the rebels are taking him to their secret base. That seems like a pretty bad idea in and of itself, but it's even more so considering the existence of the Dark Apprentice. In the Dark Side ending, the Dark Apprentice reveals himself by deactivating his personal cloaking device and kills Starkiller. In the Light Side ending, he does not appear at all. But that doesn't mean he's not there! It is shown in one of the bonus cutscenes that prior to the final confrontation with Starkiller, Vader instructed the Dark Apprentice to not reveal himself unless absolutely necessary. In the Dark Side ending, Starkiller is about to kill Vader, so the Dark Apprentice reveals himself. In the Light Side ending, he doesn't need to do that, so he just remains invisible and simply walks aboard the ship that the rebels use to transport Vader. As soon as the ship arrives at the hidden rebel base, the Dark Apprentice frees Vader, at which point the player assumes control of Vader and murders ''everybody''.''everybody''.
And at the end of the level we get to duel Starkiller while playing as Vader.
What a shame it's never going to happen.
And at the end of the level we get to duel Starkiller while playing as Vader.
What a shame it's never going to happen.
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At the end of TFU2, Vader is captured and the rebels are taking him to their secret base. That seems like a pretty bad idea in and of itself, but it's even more so considering the existence of the Dark Apprentice. In the Dark Side ending, the Dark Apprentice reveals himself by deactivating his personal cloaking device and kills Starkiller. In the Light Side ending, he does not appear at all. But that doesn't mean he's not there! It is shown in one of the bonus cutscenes that prior to the final confrontation with Starkiller, Vader instructed the Dark Apprentice to not reveal himself unless absolutely necessary. In the Dark Side ending, Starkiller is about to kill Vader, so the Dark Apprentice reveals himself. In the Light Side ending, he doesn't need to do that, so he just remains invisible and simply walks aboard the ship that the rebels use to transport Vader. As soon as the ship arrives at the hidden rebel base, the Dark Apprentice frees Vader, at which point the player assumes control of Vader and murders ''everybody''.
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At the end of TFU2, [=TFU2=], Vader is captured and the rebels are taking him to their secret base. That seems like a pretty bad idea in and of itself, but it's even more so considering the existence of the Dark Apprentice. In the Dark Side ending, the Dark Apprentice reveals himself by deactivating his personal cloaking device and kills Starkiller. In the Light Side ending, he does not appear at all. But that doesn't mean he's not there! It is shown in one of the bonus cutscenes that prior to the final confrontation with Starkiller, Vader instructed the Dark Apprentice to not reveal himself unless absolutely necessary. In the Dark Side ending, Starkiller is about to kill Vader, so the Dark Apprentice reveals himself. In the Light Side ending, he doesn't need to do that, so he just remains invisible and simply walks aboard the ship that the rebels use to transport Vader. As soon as the ship arrives at the hidden rebel base, the Dark Apprentice frees Vader, at which point the player assumes control of Vader and murders ''everybody''.
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Given the countless times she has escaped death before there's no doubt she had everything planned out prior to her encounter with Starkiller.
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Given the countless times she has escaped death before there's no doubt she had everything planned out prior to her encounter with Starkiller.Starkiller.
[[WMG: The third game's first level would have been played as Darth Vader, like in the first game]]
At the end of TFU2, Vader is captured and the rebels are taking him to their secret base. That seems like a pretty bad idea in and of itself, but it's even more so considering the existence of the Dark Apprentice. In the Dark Side ending, the Dark Apprentice reveals himself by deactivating his personal cloaking device and kills Starkiller. In the Light Side ending, he does not appear at all. But that doesn't mean he's not there! It is shown in one of the bonus cutscenes that prior to the final confrontation with Starkiller, Vader instructed the Dark Apprentice to not reveal himself unless absolutely necessary. In the Dark Side ending, Starkiller is about to kill Vader, so the Dark Apprentice reveals himself. In the Light Side ending, he doesn't need to do that, so he just remains invisible and simply walks aboard the ship that the rebels use to transport Vader. As soon as the ship arrives at the hidden rebel base, the Dark Apprentice frees Vader, at which point the player assumes control of Vader and murders ''everybody''.
[[WMG: The third game's first level would have been played as Darth Vader, like in the first game]]
At the end of TFU2, Vader is captured and the rebels are taking him to their secret base. That seems like a pretty bad idea in and of itself, but it's even more so considering the existence of the Dark Apprentice. In the Dark Side ending, the Dark Apprentice reveals himself by deactivating his personal cloaking device and kills Starkiller. In the Light Side ending, he does not appear at all. But that doesn't mean he's not there! It is shown in one of the bonus cutscenes that prior to the final confrontation with Starkiller, Vader instructed the Dark Apprentice to not reveal himself unless absolutely necessary. In the Dark Side ending, Starkiller is about to kill Vader, so the Dark Apprentice reveals himself. In the Light Side ending, he doesn't need to do that, so he just remains invisible and simply walks aboard the ship that the rebels use to transport Vader. As soon as the ship arrives at the hidden rebel base, the Dark Apprentice frees Vader, at which point the player assumes control of Vader and murders ''everybody''.