History WMG / Suikoden

Suikoden's main site was updated last month, which is very suspicious.
Konami might be doing something or planning something with the IP.
Remakes, Remasters, New entry,.......iOS games or Pachinko.
Who knows?

Freed mentions the distinct possibility that if Luca were to defeat the Dunan Alliance, Toran would be his next target. Would Lepant and the remaining heroes from the first game be able to defeat him? Sure, they have a lot of powerful fighters still (The Dragon's Den, the Six Generals (five if Valeria joins the Alliance instead of Kasumi), Lepant himself, the McDohl household, Rokkaku, a lot of mages...), but if a sizable chunk of their former army (that had since joined the Alliance) is dead and Mathiu is gone as well, would they be enough? I'm more postulating here, but if anyone has ideas as to Lepant's chances of victory, feel free to throw them up here!

Who knows?

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Thanks to Young!Viki in ''3'' we know she can exist without the whole {{Dojikko}} thing, she's a confirmed {{Time Travel}}er, and it's easy to see the future when you've been there before.

* Dragon Rune: [[CaptainObvious A dragon]]

* In the Japanese version of ''Suikodoen II'', the Newspaper comments on how Nash takes walks by the lake with a "pale, red-eyed woman" at night, but only if you have a completed Suikogaiden save (which naturally isn't in the English version since it wasn't imported.) One should also note that despite 17 years having passed in Suikoden III, Nash hasn't changed in appearance at all, and he doesn't have a True Rune. (That we know of.)

* The Emperor: Sovereignty Rune

* The Wheel of Fortune: Change Rune

* Judgement: Punishment Rune

Most visions -aside from Diadora's staff and Rahrohenga- of the False Chronicles depicts, in some way, the leader, marked by being garbed in blue and white, confronting the One King, or as they are about to confront him. In addition, only the Tenkai Stars of other worlds, Atrie and Other-Marica, have appeared to the hero, and were also present, in their own worlds, during the final battle.

The series's continuity jumps all over the place, as does it's geographic focus, but two major "themes" shoot through a lot of it: Harmonia's interests and the True Runes, and what the former has to do with the latter. This fact that no matter who TheEmpire of the day is, Harmonia tends to be the Bigger Bad. And on a deeper level, there are fairly few parts of the backstory that don't tie back tot hem in some way. The very *calender* most people in the 'verse- and most games in the series- use is *centered* on Hikusaak and his asencion to power, and the fact that the Scarlet Moon Empire and Highland were once Harmonian indicates that most of the mainland might well have been controlled by the Empire at some point, meaning that the most influential countries on the continent have at least some Harmonian descent.

And so if the series does continue, it'd make sense for them to sooner or later come back to it, particularly considering that what little we know (or that Harmonian history *tells* us) of Hikusaak and the origin of the Empire bear *surprising* parallels with your average Suikoden game: lone hero sets out against dominant power of his day and unseats it, remaking the world in their imagine (if only in part, with I in Toran, 2 in Dunan, III in the Grasslands between the Tribes, Zexen, and Harmonia, IV in the South Seas, V in Falena and New Armes, to say nothing of the spinoffs...).

So, you know what this means? DarkReprise ! Only this time, with extra *irony*. Particularly since we'd see how Hikusaak went from a Protagonist (even if a Villain one) to the BiggerBad , LaResistance becoming TheEmpire, and why things work the way they do up North. Particularly since the traditional Suikoden/Water Margin system and the 72 stars would raise the question of why- if he could only succeed through the help of others (considering it's a pretty big aesop the series has)- Harmonia only recognizes *him* and why he took up the banner of the "One True Hero" out of all the 72 stars.

[[WMG:Rahal from ''SuikodenV'' is actually a biological female]]

[[WMG: ''SuikodenV'''s Roy is distantly related to the Prince... by virtue of being a bastard of one of the Barows.]]

[[WMG: Cougar of SuikodenTierkreis was the Star of Heavenly Guidance of his world.]]

* I take it to mean that this idea is for Suikoden's final game. Two popular events for the fans are the Scarlet Moon Empire Succession Wars (with [[SuikodenI Barbarossa]] as TheHero) and the First Fire Bringer War (with the [[BigGood first]] [[SuikodenIII Flame Champion]] as TheHero). I could only hope they could tackle any of these first, but of course, I'm expecting the devs to end the series in Harmonia with a bang.

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** It's a nice thought, but I have the impression that sue to being a single gender town, there'd be a lot of casual nudity among the boys, meaning that a Sweet Polly Oliver would be discovered bery quickly.

* In the Japanese version of ''Suikodoen II'', the Newspaper comments on how Nash takes walks by the lake with a "pale, red-eyed woman" at night, butnly if you have a completed Suikogaiden save (which naturally isn't in the English version since it wasn't imported. One should also note that despite 17 years having passed in Suikoden III, Nash hasn't changed in appearance at all, and he doesn't have a True Rune. (That we know of.)

** Now part of my personal canon, just sayin'.
*** I take that as a compliment; given how much enjoyment the series places on figuring out the ''minutiae'' of your characters' lives for yourself, I was proud of [[{{Vulpy}} myself]] for even coming up with the theory. The longer I thought about it, the more sense in made.
*** Quick question, what happens in bath scenes when you take Rahal with you?
**** A very good question. I may have to dust the ol' game off just to find out. (If Rahal appears with [[{{Sarashi}} any sort of visible wrapping around the upper body]], I just might [[IKnewIt take that as proof]].)

* This also came to my mind based on her appearance and her abilities. But yes, I find this an interesting theory nonetheless. I often also thought that she was Viki from another dimension all together.
* Well, lets see first of all Gate rune could not be used for time travelling. Second (this fact maybe unknown to people never played Suikogaiden) in Suikogaiden 2 we can see Viki's homeland. And as far as I can say It looks nothing like Leknaat's homeland.

** In the Japanese version of ''Suikodoen II'', the Newspaper comments on how Nash takes walks by the lake with a "pale, red-eyed woman" at night, butnly if you have a completed Suikogaiden save (which naturally isn't in the English version since it wasn't imported. One should also note that despite 17 years having passed in Suikoden III, Nash hasn't changed in appearance at all, and he doesn't have a True Rune. (That we know of.)

* Wasn't it in [[NoExportForYou Suikogaiden]] where they reveal who Nash's wife is? Because Suikogaiden was all about Nash's story after all.
** No, Nash isn't married or in a relationship with anyone in those games. People guess his wife is Sierra from them because they get along well during the (comparatively) brief amount of time they spend together in the first one, because when he describes his supposed wife she and Sierra seem similar, and possibly in part because he doesn't spend that much time with other women who aren't related to him or already in love with someone else during the gaiden games.

** Its certainly plausible, but I thought Maximilian didn't retire, his unit was just disbanded after the war. Isabel's father did retire though, as it was with his sword/lance and shield she fought. Being an Expy of DonQuixote, I always figured Max kept fighting as a Knight-Errant, and never personally hung up his sword. Though if Isabel is his daughter, that'd be cool, as it adds yet another family to the recurring family list, as I believe Gary from 4 was confirmed to be an ancestor of Maximilian.

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**** A very good question. I may have to dust the ol' game off just to find out. (If Rahal appears with any sort of visible wrapping around the upper body, I just might [[IKnewIt take that as proof]].)

* Justice: Blue Moon Rune (the rune is supposed to exemplify both cruelty and compassion. The administration of justice, both to succor the wounded and innocent and to bring down the wicked, is an obvious meeting point.)

Thanks to Young!Viki in ''3'' we know she can exist without the whole {{Dojikko}} thing, she's a confirmed TimeTraveler, and it's easy to see the future when you've been there before.