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[[WMG: The Taalo are still alive in another dimension.]]
There are many signs that point to this. First, the Taalo were immune to Dynarri's psychic compulsion. The Ur Quan sort of explain this as due to their 'unique biology' but this can be better explained if you come to the conclusion that they originated from another dimension. You can send the Arilou, who originate in Quasispace, to investigate the Umgah once you approach them and find them 'acting funny', and the Arilou are not compelled by the Dynarri. Second, when you meet the Orz above the 'Taalo Playground,' the Orz say it is okay if the captain visits because the captain is a *camper* and that the Taalo went to *pretty space* from *heavy space*. This means the Taalo were, like the Orz and the Arilou, from another dimension, and that's why they could not be compelled mentally by the dynarri and had to be 'destroyed'. (The Ur Quan mention they didn't resist, probably because they didn't need to and just retreated into their own dimension?) Presumably, the Orz would be immune to the Dynarri too if this theory was correct. Taking this into account, you can deduce from the Orz's interactions and their presence at the Taalo *playground* to mean the Orz have contact with the Taalo there... just not in the normal dimension.
There are many signs that point to this. First, the Taalo were immune to Dynarri's psychic compulsion. The Ur Quan sort of explain this as due to their 'unique biology' but this can be better explained if you come to the conclusion that they originated from another dimension. You can send the Arilou, who originate in Quasispace, to investigate the Umgah once you approach them and find them 'acting funny', and the Arilou are not compelled by the Dynarri. Second, when you meet the Orz above the 'Taalo Playground,' the Orz say it is okay if the captain visits because the captain is a *camper* and that the Taalo went to *pretty space* from *heavy space*. This means the Taalo were, like the Orz and the Arilou, from another dimension, and that's why they could not be compelled mentally by the dynarri and had to be 'destroyed'. (The Ur Quan mention they didn't resist, probably because they didn't need to and just retreated into their own dimension?) Presumably, the Orz would be immune to the Dynarri too if this theory was correct. Taking this into account, you can deduce from the Orz's interactions and their presence at the Taalo *playground* to mean the Orz have contact with the Taalo there... just not in the normal dimension.
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I bet for a more enterprising answer. During their experiments with [=HyperSpace=], the Androsynth found 'Them'. 'They' offered the Androsynth the chance to be something greater, be the part of something so grand, so powerful, it transcended the comprehension of every single sentient race in [=TrueSpace=]. The Androsynth, eager to become something more than mere genetic alterations of the humans that created them, agreed. And so, 'They' altered the Androsynth, possibly via entering their bodies through some sort of [[DemonicPossession Alien Possession]] or TheVirus (Which would be a possible explanation for the 'snagging' part). And, so now the Androsynth are part of 'Them'. They are Orz.
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I bet for a more enterprising answer. During their experiments with [=HyperSpace=], the Androsynth found 'Them'. 'They' offered the Androsynth the chance to be something greater, be the part of something so grand, so powerful, it transcended the comprehension of every single sentient race in [=TrueSpace=]. The Androsynth, eager to become something more than mere genetic alterations of the humans that created them, agreed. And so, 'They' altered the Androsynth, possibly via entering their bodies through some sort of [[DemonicPossession Alien Possession]] or TheVirus (Which would be a possible explanation for the 'snagging' part). And, so And so, now the Androsynth are part of 'Them'. They are Orz.
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According to Fred Ford and Paul Reiche III, the Androsynth were 'snagged' by an entity that stretched its fingers into our dimension. Now, it is easy to deduce from the above guessings that, when talking about this entity that stretched fingers, he was talking about the Orz, the one with the *many fingers*. He also said that the Orz are part of 'Them', the projection of 'Them' into TrueSpace (That is, our dimension). Now, many imply that the Orz annihilated the Androsynth when they started making experiments with HyperSpace. But if that's the case, why there is no Androsynth corpses in the ruins of their cities? Some people will say that this is because the Orz ate them...
I bet for a more enterprising answer. During their experiments with HyperSpace, the Androsynth found 'Them'. 'They' offered the Androsynth the chance to be something greater, be the part of something so grand, so powerful, it transcended the comprehension of every single sentient race in TrueSpace. The Androsynth, eager to become something more than mere genetic alterations of the humans that created them, agreed. And so, 'They' altered the Androsynth, possibly via entering their bodies through some sort of [[DemonicPossession Alien Possession]] or TheVirus (Which would be a possible explanation for the 'snagging' part). And, so now the Androsynth are part of 'Them'. They are Orz.
I bet for a more enterprising answer. During their experiments with HyperSpace, the Androsynth found 'Them'. 'They' offered the Androsynth the chance to be something greater, be the part of something so grand, so powerful, it transcended the comprehension of every single sentient race in TrueSpace. The Androsynth, eager to become something more than mere genetic alterations of the humans that created them, agreed. And so, 'They' altered the Androsynth, possibly via entering their bodies through some sort of [[DemonicPossession Alien Possession]] or TheVirus (Which would be a possible explanation for the 'snagging' part). And, so now the Androsynth are part of 'Them'. They are Orz.
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According to Fred Ford and Paul Reiche III, the Androsynth were 'snagged' by an entity that stretched its fingers into our dimension. Now, it is easy to deduce from the above guessings that, when talking about this entity that stretched fingers, he was talking about the Orz, the one with the *many fingers*. He also said that the Orz are part of 'Them', the projection of 'Them' into TrueSpace [=TrueSpace=] (That is, our dimension). Now, many imply that the Orz annihilated the Androsynth when they started making experiments with HyperSpace.[=HyperSpace=]. But if that's the case, why there is no Androsynth corpses in the ruins of their cities? Some people will say that this is because the Orz ate them...
I bet for a more enterprising answer. During their experiments withHyperSpace, [=HyperSpace=], the Androsynth found 'Them'. 'They' offered the Androsynth the chance to be something greater, be the part of something so grand, so powerful, it transcended the comprehension of every single sentient race in TrueSpace.[=TrueSpace=]. The Androsynth, eager to become something more than mere genetic alterations of the humans that created them, agreed. And so, 'They' altered the Androsynth, possibly via entering their bodies through some sort of [[DemonicPossession Alien Possession]] or TheVirus (Which would be a possible explanation for the 'snagging' part). And, so now the Androsynth are part of 'Them'. They are Orz.
I bet for a more enterprising answer. During their experiments with
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[[WMG: The Orz are the Androsynth, who have achieved transhumanism.]]
According to Fred Ford and Paul Reiche III, the Androsynth were 'snagged' by an entity that stretched its fingers into our dimension. Now, it is easy to deduce from the above guessings that, when talking about this entity that stretched fingers, he was talking about the Orz, the one with the *many fingers*. He also said that the Orz are part of 'Them', the projection of 'Them' into TrueSpace (That is, our dimension). Now, many imply that the Orz annihilated the Androsynth when they started making experiments with HyperSpace. But if that's the case, why there is no Androsynth corpses in the ruins of their cities? Some people will say that this is because the Orz ate them...
I bet for a more enterprising answer. During their experiments with HyperSpace, the Androsynth found 'Them'. 'They' offered the Androsynth the chance to be something greater, be the part of something so grand, so powerful, it transcended the comprehension of every single sentient race in TrueSpace. The Androsynth, eager to become something more than mere genetic alterations of the humans that created them, agreed. And so, 'They' altered the Androsynth, possibly via entering their bodies through some sort of [[DemonicPossession Alien Possession]] or TheVirus (Which would be a possible explanation for the 'snagging' part). And, so now the Androsynth are part of 'Them'. They are Orz.
Why do the Orz go bonkers when asked about the Androsynth? Because the Androsynth are an OldShame. Something they think is best forgotten. And in order to make everyone forget about their past selves, the Orz are willing to *dissolve* everyone who remembers them and talks about them.
Accept it, ItMakesSenseInContext, right?
According to Fred Ford and Paul Reiche III, the Androsynth were 'snagged' by an entity that stretched its fingers into our dimension. Now, it is easy to deduce from the above guessings that, when talking about this entity that stretched fingers, he was talking about the Orz, the one with the *many fingers*. He also said that the Orz are part of 'Them', the projection of 'Them' into TrueSpace (That is, our dimension). Now, many imply that the Orz annihilated the Androsynth when they started making experiments with HyperSpace. But if that's the case, why there is no Androsynth corpses in the ruins of their cities? Some people will say that this is because the Orz ate them...
I bet for a more enterprising answer. During their experiments with HyperSpace, the Androsynth found 'Them'. 'They' offered the Androsynth the chance to be something greater, be the part of something so grand, so powerful, it transcended the comprehension of every single sentient race in TrueSpace. The Androsynth, eager to become something more than mere genetic alterations of the humans that created them, agreed. And so, 'They' altered the Androsynth, possibly via entering their bodies through some sort of [[DemonicPossession Alien Possession]] or TheVirus (Which would be a possible explanation for the 'snagging' part). And, so now the Androsynth are part of 'Them'. They are Orz.
Why do the Orz go bonkers when asked about the Androsynth? Because the Androsynth are an OldShame. Something they think is best forgotten. And in order to make everyone forget about their past selves, the Orz are willing to *dissolve* everyone who remembers them and talks about them.
Accept it, ItMakesSenseInContext, right?
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The crazy ghost shit? They discovered the Furthest Ring and may have pissed off the Noble Circle of Horrorterrors or someone lower than them on that hierachy.
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The crazy ghost shit? They discovered the Furthest Ring and may have pissed off the Noble Circle of Horrorterrors or someone lower than them on that hierachy.hierarchy.
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The 'They' which the Arilou refer to are the intellects which are behind Sburb. The Orz are either servants of that power or members of the continuum of beings of which The Noble Circle of Horrorterrors represent the apex. The *Time Jokes* which the Orz refer to are in fact the Wierd Time Shit inherent in every session observed to date.
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The 'They' which the Arilou refer to are the intellects which are behind Sburb. The Orz are either servants of that power or members of the continuum of beings of which The Noble Circle of Horrorterrors represent the apex. The *Time Jokes* which the Orz refer to are in fact the Wierd Weird Time Shit inherent in every session observed to date.
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[[WMG: The Androsynth fell victim to a [[Webcomic/HomeStuck SBurb secession]] ]]
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Perhaps the Taalo escaped into a secession of Sburb when the Dynarri's puppeteered minions came for them and now play the role of the Trolls to the Androsynth's Kids.
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Perhaps the Taalo escaped into a secession session of Sburb when the Dynarri's puppeteered minions came for them and now play the role of the Trolls to the Androsynth's Kids.
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The answer is clear: This is how the Pkunk reproduce. All that the Pkunk will say about how they split off from the Yehat is that the first Pkunk '"sat on the mystical egg of Icelike Temperature and gave the Original Squawk"'. This can only refer to one thing: the incident that prompted the first Pkunk to give up conventional reproduction.
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The answer is clear: This is how the Pkunk reproduce. All that the Pkunk will say about how they split off from the Yehat is that the first Pkunk '"sat ''"sat on the mystical egg of Icelike Temperature and gave the Original Squawk"'.Squawk"''. This can only refer to one thing: the incident that prompted the first Pkunk to give up conventional reproduction.
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The answer is clear: This is how the Pkunk reproduce. All that the Pkunk will say about how they split off from the Yehat is that the first Pkunk "sat on the mystical egg of Icelike Temperature and gave the Original Squawk". This can only refer to one thing: the incident that prompted the first Pkunk to give up conventional reproduction.
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The answer is clear: This is how the Pkunk reproduce. All that the Pkunk will say about how they split off from the Yehat is that the first Pkunk "sat '"sat on the mystical egg of Icelike Temperature and gave the Original Squawk".Squawk"'. This can only refer to one thing: the incident that prompted the first Pkunk to give up conventional reproduction.
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[[WMG: The Pkunk reproduce by blowing up their ships]]
Whenever a Pkunk Fury is destroyed, it has a 50% chance of being reincarnated with 8 crew members. So a Fury that sets off with just 1 crew member and is destroyed GAINS seven new crew members. Where did the seven new crew members come from? What memories do they have? Are they even Pkunk... or something else? (On average, they gain 3 crewmembers per solo-piloted Fury destroyed)
The answer is clear: This is how the Pkunk reproduce. When the Pkunk say that the first Pkunk "sat on the mystical egg of Icelike Temperature and gave the Original Squawk" they are referring to the incident that prompted the original Pkunk to give up conventional reproduction, and so split off from the Yehat.
Whenever a Pkunk Fury is destroyed, it has a 50% chance of being reincarnated with 8 crew members. So a Fury that sets off with just 1 crew member and is destroyed GAINS seven new crew members. Where did the seven new crew members come from? What memories do they have? Are they even Pkunk... or something else? (On average, they gain 3 crewmembers per solo-piloted Fury destroyed)
The answer is clear: This is how the Pkunk reproduce. When the Pkunk say that the first Pkunk "sat on the mystical egg of Icelike Temperature and gave the Original Squawk" they are referring to the incident that prompted the original Pkunk to give up conventional reproduction, and so split off from the Yehat.
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[[WMG: The Pkunk reproduce by blowing up their own ships]]
Whenever a Pkunk Fury is destroyed, it has a 50% chance of being reincarnated with 8 crew members. So a Fury that sets off with just 1 crew member and is destroyed GAINS seven new crew members. Where didthe these seven new crew members come from? What memories do they have? Are they even Pkunk... or something else? (On average, they gain 3 crewmembers per solo-piloted Fury destroyed)
The answer is clear: This is how the Pkunk reproduce.When All that the Pkunk will say about how they split off from the Yehat is that the first Pkunk "sat on the mystical egg of Icelike Temperature and gave the Original Squawk" they are referring Squawk". This can only refer to one thing: the incident that prompted the original first Pkunk to give up conventional reproduction, and so split off from the Yehat.
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Whenever a Pkunk Fury is destroyed, it has a 50% chance of being reincarnated with 8 crew members. So a Fury that sets off with just 1 crew member and is destroyed GAINS seven new crew members. Where did
The answer is clear: This is how the Pkunk reproduce.
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[[WMG: The Pkunk reproduce by blowing up their ships]]
Whenever a Pkunk Fury is destroyed, it has a 50% chance of being reincarnated with 8 crew members. So a Fury that sets off with just 1 crew member and is destroyed GAINS seven new crew members. Where did the seven new crew members come from? What memories do they have? Are they even Pkunk... or something else? (On average, they gain 3 crewmembers per solo-piloted Fury destroyed)
The answer is clear: This is how the Pkunk reproduce. When the Pkunk say that the first Pkunk "sat on the mystical egg of Icelike Temperature and gave the Original Squawk" they are referring to the incident that prompted the original Pkunk to give up conventional reproduction, and so split off from the Yehat.
Whenever a Pkunk Fury is destroyed, it has a 50% chance of being reincarnated with 8 crew members. So a Fury that sets off with just 1 crew member and is destroyed GAINS seven new crew members. Where did the seven new crew members come from? What memories do they have? Are they even Pkunk... or something else? (On average, they gain 3 crewmembers per solo-piloted Fury destroyed)
The answer is clear: This is how the Pkunk reproduce. When the Pkunk say that the first Pkunk "sat on the mystical egg of Icelike Temperature and gave the Original Squawk" they are referring to the incident that prompted the original Pkunk to give up conventional reproduction, and so split off from the Yehat.
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* Remember that the Orz referred to *playing* with the Taalo in *Pretty Space*? Given [[{{EldritchAbomination}} the nature of the Orz]] *Pretty Space* very well could have been a dimension that was some kind of FireAndBrimstoneHell RecycledInSpace (think the hell-dimension in the movie EventHorizon and you have the idea). Somehow, maybe the Taalo would return ''[[{{BeyondTheImpossible}} even more traumatised than the Ur-Quan]]'' for that, changed from (likely) peaceful-looking rockmen into jagged demon-like things similar to the Pyroviles from that Pompeii episode of DoctorWho, except with some weird, dark, likely sickly green Hellfire type energy liked to PrettySpace animating them, and looking very much in their shape like demons due to both their forced adaptation to *Pretty Space* and its hazards such as the Orz and others? Most likely agenda would be to pull a SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum first by escaping back to TrueSpace and then pulling at least a Class X-3 if not a Class X-4 or even trying for a Class Z on the ApocalypseHow scale, due to having basically had to avoid extinction by in a sense fleeing down to hell. Even if the Orz later abandoned the New Alliance, the Taalo would find out, and then decide on a FateWorseThanDeath for humanity for the Captain having blindly thrown his lot in with the Orz. Oh, and did I mention the Taalo would have abandoned their pacifism in order to survive and they've got weapons all the way from simple tools of destruction (energy weapons etc) to weaponised BrownNote things like that tentacle effect the Suul'ka from SwordOfTheStars used at the nastiest. Even if not, feel free to run with the idea if you like. Still, if that were the case, talk about NiceJobBreakingItHero...
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* Remember that the Orz referred to *playing* with the Taalo in *Pretty Space*? Given [[{{EldritchAbomination}} the nature of the Orz]] *Pretty Space* very well could have been a dimension that was some kind of FireAndBrimstoneHell RecycledInSpace (think the hell-dimension in the movie EventHorizon and you have the idea). Somehow, maybe the Taalo would return ''[[{{BeyondTheImpossible}} even more traumatised than the Ur-Quan]]'' for that, changed from (likely) peaceful-looking rockmen into jagged demon-like things similar to the Pyroviles from that Pompeii episode of DoctorWho, Series/DoctorWho, except with some weird, dark, likely sickly green Hellfire type energy liked to PrettySpace animating them, and looking very much in their shape like demons due to both their forced adaptation to *Pretty Space* and its hazards such as the Orz and others? Most likely agenda would be to pull a SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum first by escaping back to TrueSpace and then pulling at least a Class X-3 if not a Class X-4 or even trying for a Class Z on the ApocalypseHow scale, due to having basically had to avoid extinction by in a sense fleeing down to hell. Even if the Orz later abandoned the New Alliance, the Taalo would find out, and then decide on a FateWorseThanDeath for humanity for the Captain having blindly thrown his lot in with the Orz. Oh, and did I mention the Taalo would have abandoned their pacifism in order to survive and they've got weapons all the way from simple tools of destruction (energy weapons etc) to weaponised BrownNote things like that tentacle effect the Suul'ka from SwordOfTheStars used at the nastiest. Even if not, feel free to run with the idea if you like. Still, if that were the case, talk about NiceJobBreakingItHero...
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* Remember that the Orz referred to *playing* with the Taalo in *Pretty Space*? Given [[{{EldritchAbomination}} the nature of the Orz]] *Pretty Space* very well could have been a dimension that was some kind of FireAndBrimstoneHell RecycledInSpace. Somehow, maybe the Taalo would return ''[[{{BeyondTheImpossible}} even more traumatised than the Ur-Quan]]'' for that, changed from (likely) peaceful-looking rockmen into jagged demon-like things similar to the Pyroviles from that Pompeii episode of DoctorWho, except with some weird, dark, likely sickly green Hellfire type energy liked to PrettySpace animating them, and looking very much in their shape like demons due to both their forced adaptation to *Pretty Space* and its hazards such as the Orz and others? Most likely agenda would be to pull a SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum first by escaping back to TrueSpace and then pulling at least a Class X-3 if not a Class X-4 or even trying for a Class Z on the ApocalypseHow scale, due to having basically had to avoid extinction by in a sense fleeing down to hell. Even if the Orz later abandoned the New Alliance, the Taalo would find out, and then decide on a FateWorseThanDeath for humanity for the Captain having blindly thrown his lot in with the Orz. Oh, and did I mention the Taalo would have abandoned their pacifism in order to survive and they've got weapons all the way from simple tools of destruction (energy weapons etc) to weaponised BrownNote things like that tentacle effect the Suul'ka from SwordOfTheStars used at the nastiest. Even if not, feel free to run with the idea if you like. Still, if that were the case, talk about NiceJobBreakingItHero...
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* Remember that the Orz referred to *playing* with the Taalo in *Pretty Space*? Given [[{{EldritchAbomination}} the nature of the Orz]] *Pretty Space* very well could have been a dimension that was some kind of FireAndBrimstoneHell RecycledInSpace.RecycledInSpace (think the hell-dimension in the movie EventHorizon and you have the idea). Somehow, maybe the Taalo would return ''[[{{BeyondTheImpossible}} even more traumatised than the Ur-Quan]]'' for that, changed from (likely) peaceful-looking rockmen into jagged demon-like things similar to the Pyroviles from that Pompeii episode of DoctorWho, except with some weird, dark, likely sickly green Hellfire type energy liked to PrettySpace animating them, and looking very much in their shape like demons due to both their forced adaptation to *Pretty Space* and its hazards such as the Orz and others? Most likely agenda would be to pull a SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum first by escaping back to TrueSpace and then pulling at least a Class X-3 if not a Class X-4 or even trying for a Class Z on the ApocalypseHow scale, due to having basically had to avoid extinction by in a sense fleeing down to hell. Even if the Orz later abandoned the New Alliance, the Taalo would find out, and then decide on a FateWorseThanDeath for humanity for the Captain having blindly thrown his lot in with the Orz. Oh, and did I mention the Taalo would have abandoned their pacifism in order to survive and they've got weapons all the way from simple tools of destruction (energy weapons etc) to weaponised BrownNote things like that tentacle effect the Suul'ka from SwordOfTheStars used at the nastiest. Even if not, feel free to run with the idea if you like. Still, if that were the case, talk about NiceJobBreakingItHero...
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* Remember that the Orz referred to *playing* with the Taalo in *Pretty Space*? Given [[{{EldritchAbomination}} the nature of the Orz]] *Pretty Space* very well could have been a dimension that was some kind of FireAndBrimstoneHell RecycledInSpace. Somehow, maybe the Taalo would return ''[[{{BeyondTheImpossible}} even more traumatised than the Ur-Quan]]'' for that, changed from (likely) peaceful-looking rockmen into jagged demon-like things similar to the Pyroviles from that Pompeii episode of DoctorWho, except with some weird, dark, likely sickly green Hellfire type energy liked to PrettySpace animating them, and looking very much in their shape like demons due to both their forced adaptation to *Pretty Space* and its hazards such as the Orz and others? Most likely agenda would be to pull a SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum first by escaping back to TrueSpace and then pulling at least a Class X-3 if not a Class X-4 or even trying for a Class Z on the ApocalypseHow scale, due to having basically had to avoid extinction by in a sense fleeing down to hell. Even if the Orz later abandoned the New Alliance, the Taalo would find out, and then decide on a FateWorseThanDeath for humanity for the Captain having blindly thrown his lot in with the Orz. Oh, and did I mention the Taalo would have abandoned their pacifism in order to survive and they've got weapons all the way from simple tools of destruction (energy weapons etc) to weaponised BrownNote things like that tentacle effect the Suul'ka from SwordOfTheStars used at the nastiest. Talk about NiceJobBreakingItHero...
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* Remember that the Orz referred to *playing* with the Taalo in *Pretty Space*? Given [[{{EldritchAbomination}} the nature of the Orz]] *Pretty Space* very well could have been a dimension that was some kind of FireAndBrimstoneHell RecycledInSpace. Somehow, maybe the Taalo would return ''[[{{BeyondTheImpossible}} even more traumatised than the Ur-Quan]]'' for that, changed from (likely) peaceful-looking rockmen into jagged demon-like things similar to the Pyroviles from that Pompeii episode of DoctorWho, except with some weird, dark, likely sickly green Hellfire type energy liked to PrettySpace animating them, and looking very much in their shape like demons due to both their forced adaptation to *Pretty Space* and its hazards such as the Orz and others? Most likely agenda would be to pull a SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum first by escaping back to TrueSpace and then pulling at least a Class X-3 if not a Class X-4 or even trying for a Class Z on the ApocalypseHow scale, due to having basically had to avoid extinction by in a sense fleeing down to hell. Even if the Orz later abandoned the New Alliance, the Taalo would find out, and then decide on a FateWorseThanDeath for humanity for the Captain having blindly thrown his lot in with the Orz. Oh, and did I mention the Taalo would have abandoned their pacifism in order to survive and they've got weapons all the way from simple tools of destruction (energy weapons etc) to weaponised BrownNote things like that tentacle effect the Suul'ka from SwordOfTheStars used at the nastiest. Talk Even if not, feel free to run with the idea if you like. Still, if that were the case, talk about NiceJobBreakingItHero...
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* Remember that the Orz referred to *playing* with the Taalo in *Pretty Space*? Given [[{{EldritchAbomination}} the nature of the Orz]] *Pretty Space* very well could have been a dimension that was some kind of FireAndBrimstoneHell RecycledInSpace. Somehow, maybe the Taalo would return ''[[{{BeyondTheImpossible}} even more traumatised than the Ur-Quan]]'' for that, changed from (likely) peaceful-looking rockmen into jagged demon-like things similar to the Pyroviles from that Pompeii episode of DoctorWho, except with some weird, dark, likely sickly green Hellfire type energy liked to PrettySpace animating them, and looking very much in their shape like demons due to both their forced adaptation to *Pretty Space* and its hazards such as the Orz and others? Most likely agenda would be to pull a SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum first by escaping back to TrueSpace and then pulling at least a Class X-3 if not a Class X-4 or even trying for a Class Z on the ApocalypseHow scale, due to having basically had to avoid extinction by in a sense fleeing down to hell. Even if the Orz later abandoned the New Alliance, the Taalo would find out, and then decide on a FateWorseThanDeath for humanity for the Captain having blindly thrown his lot in with the Orz. Oh, and did I mention the Taalo would have abandoned their pacifism in order to survive and they've got weapons all the way from simple tools of destruction (energy weapons etc) to weaponised BrownNote things like that tentacle effect the Suul'ka from SwordOfTheStars used at the nastiest. Talk about NiceJobBreakingItHero...
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*** Actually I think *many bubbles* might actually mean ''multicellular organism'', not molecular structure. To an EnergyBeing type EldritchAbomination [[{{HumansThroughAlienEyes}} cells in DNA-based life would look like bubbles]]. If you don't believe me search on TheOtherWiki or Google up somewhere learning about cells, you might see at the appearance of cells that they might look like bubbles to a particularly strange extradimensional being that has no prior concept of cellular life (likely from an 11-dimension universe, and considering the Orz, I'd think one probably like the hell-dimension in EventHorizon), as likely the only other beings they knew of prior to the Androsynth were refugee Taalo, who were likely silicon or sulphur-based. I don't think the Orz mean molecules as *bubbles*.
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*** That was my interpretation. "Orz are not *many bubbles*... I am Orz. I am one with many *fingers*. My *fingers* reach through into *heavy space* and you *see* *Orz bubbles* but it is really *fingers*." Seems pretty clear to me. (Which may be a bad sign, come to think of it. [[GoMadFromTheRevelation Where is that damned buzzing coming from??]])
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*** It's their culture. In their culture, givin(in this case heling the galaxy) without receiving something in return is considered vulgar and barbaric. Since the galaxy is not excatly in position to actualy pay anything and propably never would be, they use proxies.
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*** It's their culture. In their culture, givin(in giving (in this case heling healing the galaxy) without receiving something in return is considered vulgar and barbaric. Since the galaxy is not excatly in position to actualy pay anything and propably never would be, they use proxies.
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*** It could be probes were first plan, but after Captain appers and starts kicking ass, they might consider they get more out of helping Captain(for nominal fee). Let's see... they can get into contact in natural way, their goal(defeat of Ur-Quan race) is achievet, they get to establish trade relations AND they get cash from it. Compare to probe gambit: Ur-Quans are defearted. I think Melrome tought "Capain > Probes" and ditched the probe plan.
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*** It could be probes were first plan, but after Captain appers and starts kicking ass, they might consider they get more out of helping Captain(for nominal fee). Let's see... they can get into contact in natural way, their goal(defeat of Ur-Quan race) is achievet, achieved, they get to establish trade relations AND they get cash from it. Compare to probe gambit: Ur-Quans are defearted. I think Melrome tought thought "Capain > Probes" and ditched the probe plan.
** That doesn't track. If the Melnorme intended the probes for use as weapons, they wouldn't be attacking ships with their replication systems. Each probe is equipped with a battery of missiles; if they wanted the probes to destroy any ship they came across, they'd be programmed to use those instead. [[FridgeLogic Then again,]] perhaps the replication lightning is EXACTLY what's needed to break down the Sa-Matra into component materials...
** That doesn't track. If the Melnorme intended the probes for use as weapons, they wouldn't be attacking ships with their replication systems. Each probe is equipped with a battery of missiles; if they wanted the probes to destroy any ship they came across, they'd be programmed to use those instead. [[FridgeLogic Then again,]] perhaps the replication lightning is EXACTLY what's needed to break down the Sa-Matra into component materials...
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The 'They' which the Arilou refer to are the intellects that are behind Sburb. The Orz are either servants of that power or members of the continuum of beings of which The Noble Circle of Horrorterrors represent the apex. The *Time Jokes* which the Orz refer to are in fact the Wierd Time Shit inherent in every session observed to date.
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The 'They' which the Arilou refer to are the intellects that which are behind Sburb. The Orz are either servants of that power or members of the continuum of beings of which The Noble Circle of Horrorterrors represent the apex. The *Time Jokes* which the Orz refer to are in fact the Wierd Time Shit inherent in every session observed to date.
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The crazy ghost shit? They discovered the Furthest Ring and may have pissed off the Noble Circle of Horrorterrors or someone lower than them on the hierachy.
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The crazy ghost shit? They discovered the Furthest Ring and may have pissed off the Noble Circle of Horrorterrors or someone lower than them on the that hierachy.
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The 'They' which the Arilou refer to are the intellects that are behind Sburb. The Orz are either servants of that power or members of the continuum of beings of which The Noble Circle of Horrorterrors represent the apex. The *Time Jokes* which the Orz refer to are in fact the Wierd Time Shit inherent in every session observed to date.
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[[WMG: The Androsynth fell victim to a [[HomestuckSBurb [[HomeStuck SBurb secession]] ]]
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[[WMG: The Androsynth fell victim to a [[Homestuck SBurb secession]] ]]
The damage to their cities is in fact the results of the 'Reckoning'. The crazy ghost shit? They discovered the Furthest Ring and may have pissed off the Noble Circle of Horrorterrors or someone lower than them on the hierachy. The 'They' which the Arilou refer to are the intellects that are behind Sburb. The Orz are either servants of that power or members of the continuum of beings which Horrorterrors represent the apex. The *Time Jokes* which the Orz refer to are in fact the Wierd Time Shit inherent in every session observed to date.
Perhaps the Taalo escaped into a secession of Sburb when the Dynarri's puppeteered minions came for them and are now playing the Trolls to the Androsynth's Kids.
The damage to their cities is in fact the results of the 'Reckoning'. The crazy ghost shit? They discovered the Furthest Ring and may have pissed off the Noble Circle of Horrorterrors or someone lower than them on the hierachy. The 'They' which the Arilou refer to are the intellects that are behind Sburb. The Orz are either servants of that power or members of the continuum of beings which Horrorterrors represent the apex. The *Time Jokes* which the Orz refer to are in fact the Wierd Time Shit inherent in every session observed to date.
Perhaps the Taalo escaped into a secession of Sburb when the Dynarri's puppeteered minions came for them and are now playing the Trolls to the Androsynth's Kids.
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The damage to their cities is in fact the results of the'Reckoning'. 'Reckoning' and the resulting hail of meteorites.
The crazy ghost shit? They discovered the Furthest Ring and may have pissed off the Noble Circle of Horrorterrors or someone lower than them on thehierachy. hierachy.
The 'They' which the Arilou refer to are the intellects that are behind Sburb. The Orz are either servants of that power or members of the continuum of beings which Horrorterrors represent the apex. The *Time Jokes* which the Orz refer to are in fact the Wierd Time Shit inherent in every session observed to date. \n
Perhaps the Taalo escaped into a secession of Sburb when the Dynarri's puppeteered minions came for them andare now playing play the role of the Trolls to the Androsynth's Kids.
The damage to their cities is in fact the results of the
The crazy ghost shit? They discovered the Furthest Ring and may have pissed off the Noble Circle of Horrorterrors or someone lower than them on the
The 'They' which the Arilou refer to are the intellects that are behind Sburb. The Orz are either servants of that power or members of the continuum of beings which Horrorterrors represent the apex. The *Time Jokes* which the Orz refer to are in fact the Wierd Time Shit inherent in every session observed to date.
Perhaps the Taalo escaped into a secession of Sburb when the Dynarri's puppeteered minions came for them and
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* Maybe they first planned to see which one wins and then evacuate Humans if needed. Then they see a rogue human actualy beating Hierarchy left and right, they took the opportunity. Think about it, they get rid of treath against humans AND they don't need to pull some incredably unbelievable excuse as WHY they would rescue them. Just tell them "We wanted to help you".
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* Maybe they first planned to see which one wins and then evacuate Humans if needed. Then they see a rogue human actualy beating Hierarchy left and right, they took the opportunity. Think about it, they get rid of treath threats against humans AND they don't need to pull some incredably unbelievable excuse as WHY they would rescue them. Just tell them "We wanted to help you".
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** Except we also get "camper", "happy cows" etc. System produces closest thing it can. Of course, Orz way of saying "molecule" could be so alien that system just picks closest it can, which in this case becomes "bubble". Civilization becomes "campers". Battle becomes "dance". They all mean something but their original words are so weird taht system jsut pick best translation it can.
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** Except we also get "camper", "happy cows" etc. System produces closest thing it can. Of course, Orz way of saying "molecule" could be so alien that system just picks closest it can, which in this case becomes "bubble". Civilization becomes "campers". Battle becomes "dance". They all mean something but their original words are so weird taht that the system jsut pick just picks the best translation it can. can.
[[WMG: The Androsynth fell victim to a [[Homestuck SBurb secession]] ]]
The damage to their cities is in fact the results of the 'Reckoning'. The crazy ghost shit? They discovered the Furthest Ring and may have pissed off the Noble Circle of Horrorterrors or someone lower than them on the hierachy. The 'They' which the Arilou refer to are the intellects that are behind Sburb. The Orz are either servants of that power or members of the continuum of beings which Horrorterrors represent the apex. The *Time Jokes* which the Orz refer to are in fact the Wierd Time Shit inherent in every session observed to date.
Perhaps the Taalo escaped into a secession of Sburb when the Dynarri's puppeteered minions came for them and are now playing the Trolls to the Androsynth's Kids.
[[WMG: The Androsynth fell victim to a [[Homestuck SBurb secession]] ]]
The damage to their cities is in fact the results of the 'Reckoning'. The crazy ghost shit? They discovered the Furthest Ring and may have pissed off the Noble Circle of Horrorterrors or someone lower than them on the hierachy. The 'They' which the Arilou refer to are the intellects that are behind Sburb. The Orz are either servants of that power or members of the continuum of beings which Horrorterrors represent the apex. The *Time Jokes* which the Orz refer to are in fact the Wierd Time Shit inherent in every session observed to date.
Perhaps the Taalo escaped into a secession of Sburb when the Dynarri's puppeteered minions came for them and are now playing the Trolls to the Androsynth's Kids.
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**** As a general strategic rule, you can reach pretty much any position in a straight up charge if you have enough men. While the Sa-Matra may well be able to kill a trillion of these things per square inch they advance, if they have infinite resources they eventually will reach it. The question is whether they can get that many before the Sa Matra gets turned in their direction.
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* They were pure good. Then they tried to become little bit even more good, which resulted them going off the scale and hitting opposite end. Like traveling a ring.
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****** No they don't. Doctrional War begun when both fleets appeared on the orbit of Mael-num homeworld. During the initial battle, Mael-num escaped. Sa-Matra was was found much later, so it should be somewhat suprise even to Mael-num (unless they got good spies, which isn't that much far off).
*** It's their culture. In their culture, givin(in this case heling the galaxy) without receiving something in return is considered vulgar and barbaric. Since the galaxy is not excatly in position to actualy pay anything and propably never would be, they use proxies.
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* Possible. There are no Androsynth bodies anywhere, only ruins.
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***** If the Melnorme are the "one-eyed Mael-num," and the Kzer-Za were using the Sa-Matra in the first Doctrinal Conflict, there's a good bet that the Melnorme know about it. (Although if they don't sell you any information about it, that might be evidence that they don't.)
***** You aren't really fighting the Sa-Matra, just its auto-defense systems. The Dynarri paralyzed its crew, remember? The way the Chenjesu talked about the Sa-Matra, and how its "annihilation toroids" could destroy you from across a solar system, it seems doubtful that ''any'' number of ''any'' non-Precursor ship could disable it.
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*** It's ''possible'' that they have to let someone else buy the probes just because they can't do anything benevolent.
** How were the Melnorme supposed to know that the Slylandro would turn the dial up to "999"? The Slylandro don't say anything about the Melnorme helping them program it. And if part of the Melnorme gambit was to have the Captain defeat the Kohr-Ah -- and given the way they seem to be pinning their hopes on you, it was -- why would they knowingly unleash something that has a good chance of killing you while you're still vulnerable?
** How were the Melnorme supposed to know that the Slylandro would turn the dial up to "999"? The Slylandro don't say anything about the Melnorme helping them program it. And if part of the Melnorme gambit was to have the Captain defeat the Kohr-Ah -- and given the way they seem to be pinning their hopes on you, it was -- why would they knowingly unleash something that has a good chance of killing you while you're still vulnerable?
