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* It seems more likely that Miles-Prowler will be more akin to [[Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness Sinister Strange]], in that Miles will have to contend with the villain he easily could have become [[ForWantOfANail if things had gone a slightly different way]], but the larger threat endangering the entire multiverse is the ultimate focus. Miles-Prowler might stick around for the whole movie if he pulls a HeelFaceTurn, but otherwise he'll just be a VillainOfTheDetour.

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* It seems more likely that Miles-Prowler will be more akin to [[Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness Sinister Strange]], in that Miles will have to contend with the villain he easily could have become [[ForWantOfANail if things had gone a slightly different way]], way, but the larger threat endangering the entire multiverse is the ultimate focus. Miles-Prowler might stick around for the whole movie if he pulls a HeelFaceTurn, but otherwise he'll just be a VillainOfTheDetour.
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* [[WesternAnimation/Invincible2021 Agent Spider]]
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* Jesica Drew. BlackDudeDiesFirst, MentorOccupationalHazard and Retirony.
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\n* Then their exchange of "And in every other universe, it doesn't end well." - "There's a first time for everything, right?" would have served no purpose.

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* Earth-16827 Peter Parker/Wolf Spider - The true mastermind behind both Miguel's Canon Event Theory (along with the cosmic disaster that led to the theory in the first place) & the Multiversial Sinister Six, the Wolf Spider would probably be the same one from [[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan2012]] or a brand-new version created for this film, but just like the Ultimate Spider-Man incarnation, he would be an alternate Peter Parker who for some reason rejected heroism and responsibility in favor of gaining as much power as he could. The reveal of the Wolf Spider should definitely come with a proper explanation on how he became evil in the first place. The Wolf Spider would kick-start the final battle by forcibly taking over Miguel's body & using his powers against the Spider-People, whether by taking over their minds or stealing their life-force, the Wolf Spider's ultimate goal would be to rule the Multiverse. The methods Miguel pushes in the name of his Canon Event Theory being antithetical to Spider-Man's ethos of always helping those in need would make sense in a truly nightmarish way if they turn out to be the result of being manipulated by an alternate timeline version of Peter Parker, the OG Spider-Man, who is the complete opposite of everything that Spider-Man stands for.

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* Earth-16827 Peter Parker/Wolf Spider - The true mastermind behind both Miguel's Canon Event Theory (along with the cosmic disaster that led to the theory in the first place) & the Multiversial Sinister Six, the Wolf Spider would probably be the same one from [[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan2012]] [[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan2012 Ultimate Spider-Man]] or a brand-new version created for this film, but just like the Ultimate Spider-Man incarnation, he would be an alternate Peter Parker who for some reason rejected heroism and responsibility in favor of gaining as much power as he could. The reveal of the Wolf Spider should definitely come with a proper explanation on how he became evil in the first place. The Wolf Spider would kick-start the final battle by forcibly taking over Miguel's body & using his powers against the Spider-People, whether by taking over their minds or stealing their life-force, the Wolf Spider's ultimate goal would be to rule the Multiverse. The methods Miguel pushes in the name of his Canon Event Theory being antithetical to Spider-Man's ethos of always helping those in need would make sense in a truly nightmarish way if they turn out to be the result of being manipulated by an alternate timeline version of Peter Parker, the OG Spider-Man, who is the complete opposite of everything that Spider-Man stands for.

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\n\n [[WMG: Instead of just Earth-42 Prowler or The Spot or even Miguel being the BigBad of Beyond The Spider-Verse, the main threat will be a multiversial version of the Sinister Six.]]

Half of them would be returning characters and the other half would be brand-new versions of pre-existing characters.
* Olivia Octavius/Doctor Octopus - If the extended cut is to be believed, then this Doctor Octopus survived that truck & will most likely be planning revenge on Miles, taking up the role traditionally held by most versions of Doc Ock within the Sinister Six.

* Jonathan Ohnn/ The Spot - Given that his threat hasn't been resolved yet, he'd most likely be convinced to join this Sinister Six to help in his vendetta against Miles.

* Earth-42 Miles Morales/The Prowler - The Across The Spider-Verse official art book describes Miles G. Morales as a vigilante rather than a villain of Earth-42, but that likely doesn't mean he won't be convinced... or worse... made BrainwashedAndCrazy so he'd join the Sinister Six.

* Earth-42 Cindy Moon/Silk - Beyond The Spider-Verse introduces two versions of Cindy Moon, traditionally known as the heroine Silk. One would be the Cindy Moon from Earth-1610B who would somehow be bitten by a spider that gives her abilities similar to Spider-Man... and the other would be a more corrupt version of her from Earth-42. Based of the Cindy Moon of Earth-65 from the comics, she's a S.H.I.E.L.D. geneticist who broke bad after her spider research yielded people with superpowers. As the leader of her own organization, S.I.L.K., she became a billionaire through corporate espionage and the manipulation of world events during a mad quest for world domination that would earn her a place in the Sinister Six.

* Corrupted Gwen Stacy/She-Venom - On the topic of Earth-65 Cindy Moon, in the comics, she stole the power of Spider-Gwen, leading her to don a lab-made version of the Venom Symbiote. A fitting way of giving Spider-Gwen her own evil counterpart within the Sinister Six would be a corrupted version of Gwen Stacy merged with the Venom Symbiote.

* Miguel O'Hara/Spider-Man 2099? - Bent on ensuring the "canon event" where Miles loses his father to The Spot takes place as scheduled, Miguel would initially be assumed to be the leader of this multiversal Sinister Six, until a pivotal moment where his whole theory about Canon Events begins to fall apart... Miguel would be in utter denial... but then a voice in his head would gloat... one provided by Christopher Daniel Barnes.

* Earth-16827 Peter Parker/Wolf Spider - The true mastermind behind both Miguel's Canon Event Theory (along with the cosmic disaster that led to the theory in the first place) & the Multiversial Sinister Six, the Wolf Spider would probably be the same one from [[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan2012]] or a brand-new version created for this film, but just like the Ultimate Spider-Man incarnation, he would be an alternate Peter Parker who for some reason rejected heroism and responsibility in favor of gaining as much power as he could. The reveal of the Wolf Spider should definitely come with a proper explanation on how he became evil in the first place. The Wolf Spider would kick-start the final battle by forcibly taking over Miguel's body & using his powers against the Spider-People, whether by taking over their minds or stealing their life-force, the Wolf Spider's ultimate goal would be to rule the Multiverse. The methods Miguel pushes in the name of his Canon Event Theory being antithetical to Spider-Man's ethos of always helping those in need would make sense in a truly nightmarish way if they turn out to be the result of being manipulated by an alternate timeline version of Peter Parker, the OG Spider-Man, who is the complete opposite of everything that Spider-Man stands for.
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[[WMG: Miles will invoke NotSoDifferent with him and Spot]]

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[[WMG: Miles will invoke NotSoDifferent use a NotSoDifferentRemark with him and Spot]]

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[[WMG: Hobie will play a part in bringing Miles and Gwen back together]]
Miles will be more willing to listen to and trust Hobie at the beginning of ''Beyond'' while likely still being cold to Gwen, thus Hobie might be the one who will tell Miles that Gwen brought the whole team to save him, and that he should give her a chance to explain herself. He may also let Miles know how Gwen talked about him while she was at the Society, the implication being she often talked about him and that it was clear how much she wanted to see him. Alternatively (or additionally) he will also instigate Gwen into realising or confessing her feelings for Miles. Hobie will either way act as a subtle instigator for them.

[[WMG: Miles will invoke NotSoDifferent with him and Spot]]
Miles ended up suffering similarly to how Jonathan/The Spot did, that is, being ostracized for being an Anomaly, a "mistake", someone who "shouldn't exist", not very different from how Spot suffered being ostracized by friends and family for his appearance and thus a "mistake" himself, someone who couldn't belong anywhere and wasn't taken seriously (Miles didn't take him seriously which he later admits, while Miles himself ends up not being taken seriously by Miguel and the Society for being "just a kid"). It's very possible that Miles will realise/acknowledge their similarities and bring this up while fighting Spot, possibly even as a means to defeat him if Spot will eventually be willing to listen, likely either halfway through the battle against him or towards the end, being the final thing needed for Spot to surrender or acknowledge his wrongdoings by realising that Spider-Man/Miles who previously mocked him now empathises with him.

[[WMG: Gwen will have a similar line to Jeff in the first film.]]
Gwen will have her own version of telling Miles that she loves him, but she doesn't expect him to say it back. It will happen either halfway through their reconciliation, or towards the end, serving as a romantic parallell to the familial version of the scenario being used in the first movie.

[[WMG: There will be a comedic scene of Miles meeting Gwen's dad]]
The writers will likely not want to miss the opposite scenario of Gwen's meeting with Rio and Jeff, thus we'll also have Miles meeting George, probably towards the end of the movie after he and Gwen have gotten closer again, making for another comedic scene of 'meeting the parents'. Ironically, Miles will likely be more smooth and better at impressing George than Gwen was with Rio and Jeff.



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[[WMG: Miles Variant will The BigBad of Spider-Man: Beyond The Universe]]

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[[WMG: Miles Variant Miles-42 will The BigBad of Spider-Man: Beyond The Universe]]Spider-Verse]]



[[WMG: Miles Variant will convince Miles on [[WeCanRuleTogether joining him]]]]

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[[WMG: Miles Variant Miles-42 will convince Miles on [[WeCanRuleTogether joining him]]]]
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Once he gets called out, Gwen, Peter, and the rest of The Spiders from The Spider-Gang will abandon him, leaving me alone.

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Once he gets called out, Gwen, Peter, and the rest of The Spiders from The Spider-Gang will abandon him, leaving me him alone.
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When Miguel claims on trying to be a “good guy”, he will finally be ripped a new one by Gwen, Peter B. and the rest of The Spider-Gang for his actions, how he treated Miles, how far he's going to "keep the Canon intact" and how [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech he considers himself a “hero” when in reality he is barely even a good leader, is hostile to anyone he considers as a threat for no reason, like Miles, and doesn’t even give them a chance]], all culminating in Gwen asking Miguel, "[[ArmorPiercingQuestion What about your daughter? What would she think of you if she could see what you're doing right now?]]"

Once he gets called out, Gwen, Peter, and the rest of The Spiders from The Spider Society will abandoned him alone.

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When Miguel claims on trying to be a “good guy”, he will finally be ripped a new one by Gwen, Peter B. and the rest of The Spider-Gang for his actions, how he treated Miles, Miles when all he wanted to do was help, how far he's going to "keep the Canon intact" and how [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech he considers himself a “hero” when in reality he is barely even a good leader, is hostile to anyone he considers as a threat or an anomaly for little to no reason, like Miles, and doesn’t even give them a chance]], chance, like Miles]], all culminating in Gwen asking Miguel, "[[ArmorPiercingQuestion What about your daughter? What would she think of you if she could see what you're doing right now?]]"

Once he gets called out, Gwen, Peter, and the rest of The Spiders from The Spider Society Spider-Gang will abandoned him abandon him, leaving me alone.



Once he gets [[WhatTheHellHero called out for his brutality as well as barely being a leader including a Spider-Man]], also for being to harsh on Miles, he will realize his actions as well as regret them.

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Once he gets [[WhatTheHellHero called out for his brutality as well as barely being a leader including a Spider-Man]], also for being to too harsh on Miles, he will realize his actions as well as regret them.



[[WMG: Jessica Drew will have HeelRealization and JerkassRealization]]

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[[WMG: Jessica Drew will have both a HeelRealization and JerkassRealization]]
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* Ben Reilly / Scarlet Spider
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Related to one above: after Miles and Gwen's team has helped Miles G. and Aaron fight the Sinister Six cartels, Miles G. will offer to help out Miles in return. He follows Miles to 1610, and, upon realising that Miguel and other Spider-people are still there looking for him, the two agree to switch places: Miles G. dons the Spider suit while Miles dons the Prowler one, in order to make Miguel chase after the wrong one. Miles G. will avert Miguel's attention while Miles and Gwen's team go after Spot/looks for Jeff (alternatively, they attempt to ambush Miguel themselves while he's distracted by the wrong Miles). This may possibly be played as a trick to the audience as well as they don't show the switch happening, and the reveal only comes when Miguel catches Miles only to remove his mask and realise in shock he's a different one. Obviously, this will serve as a nod to how the two Miles were originally going to have each other's fates. Bonus points if they have a conversation later on what they thought about wearing the other's suit, with both of them agreeing that they're used to and prefer their own at the end of the day.

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Related to one above: after Miles and Gwen's team has helped Miles G. and Aaron fight the Sinister Six cartels, Miles G. will offer to help out Miles in return. He follows Miles to 1610, 1610 (alternatively, Miguel himself arrives on Earth 42, having figured out Miles is there), and, upon realising that Miguel and other Spider-people are still there looking for him, the two agree to switch places: Miles G. dons the Spider suit while Miles dons the Prowler one, in order to make Miguel chase after the wrong one. Miles G. will avert Miguel's attention while Miles and Gwen's team go after Spot/looks for Jeff (alternatively, they attempt to ambush Miguel themselves while he's distracted by the wrong Miles). This may possibly be played as a trick to the audience as well as they don't show the switch happening, and the reveal only comes when Miguel catches Miles only to remove his mask and realise in shock he's a different one. Obviously, this will serve as a nod to how the two Miles were originally going to have each other's fates. Bonus points if they have a conversation later on what they thought about wearing the other's suit, with both of them agreeing that they're used to and prefer their own at the end of the day.

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Since the sequel film, Across The Spiderverse is going to show Jessica Drew, and Spider-Man 2099. Any of the Spider-Man Counterparts will likely appear in both second, and third film of the Spiderverse sequels.

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Since the sequel film, Across The Spiderverse Spider-Verse is going to show Jessica Drew, and Spider-Man 2099. Any of the Spider-Man Counterparts counterparts will likely appear in both second, and third film of the Spiderverse Spider-Verse sequels.



* And last, but not least... [[spoiler: ''{{WebVideo/Italian Spiderman}}'']]

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* And last, but not least... [[spoiler: ''{{WebVideo/Italian [[spoiler:''{{WebVideo/Italian Spiderman}}'']]



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[[spoiler: Jossed]].
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Despite chasing after him for some reason, they do want to help Miles on protecting and defending the Spiderverse/Multiverse, but are likely chasing after him due to being ordered by Miguel.

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Despite chasing after him for some reason, they do want to help Miles on protecting and defending the Spiderverse/Multiverse, Spider-Verse/Multiverse, but are likely chasing after him due to being ordered by Miguel.



* Is possible that he isn't a multiversal threat on his own, but rather a man that powers are the true enemy and he is just being forced to play the role of a villain.

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* Is It's possible that he isn't a multiversal threat on his own, but rather a man that powers are the true enemy and he is just being forced to play the role of a villain.



** That could be also the reason of why all the spiders are after miles, because he is just trying to help the Spot, but they think that he is a menace and need to end him.

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** That could be also the reason of why all the spiders are after miles, Miles, because he is just trying to help the Spot, but they think that he is a menace and need to end him.



[[WMG: spoiler: Miguel/Spider-Man 2099 is the BigBad]]
[[spoiler: So far from the trailers besides TheStinger of the first film, he has done nothing but being hostile towards Miles, such as partaking in brutally fighting him between that crosses between Mumbhattan and Nueva York, not to mention he has an crew of Spiders Counterparts chase after him.]]

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[[WMG: spoiler: Miguel/Spider-Man [[spoiler:Miguel/Spider-Man 2099 is the BigBad]]
[[spoiler: So
BigBad]]]]
[[spoiler:So
far from the trailers besides TheStinger of the first film, he has done nothing but being hostile towards Miles, such as partaking in brutally fighting him between that crosses between Mumbhattan and Nueva York, not to mention he has an crew of Spiders Counterparts chase after him.]]



* [[spoiler: Jossed]].

[[WMG: The other Spiders are targetting Miles because he will grow up to be Ultimatum, who will be an antagonist of this movie or Beyond The Spider-Verse]]

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* [[spoiler: Jossed]].

[[spoiler:Jossed]].

[[WMG: The other Spiders are targetting targeting Miles because he will grow up to be Ultimatum, who will be an antagonist of this movie or Beyond The Spider-Verse]]



* [[spoiler: Jossed]].

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Since Miguel appeared in the mid-credits as well as the 67 Spider-Man as cameos in the previous film, there are possibillities on who else will make a cameo in TheStinger as a SequelHook that could set up Beyond The Spiderverse.

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Since Miguel appeared in the mid-credits as well as the 67 Spider-Man as cameos in the previous film, there are possibillities on who else will make a cameo in TheStinger as a SequelHook that could set up Beyond The Spiderverse.
Spider-Verse.



* [[spoiler: Semi-confirmed: The closest is the reveal of Captain George Stacy's death being canon in his universe but other than that, there's no implications or hints of what his life was like after the show]].

[[WMG: The Spectacular Spider-Man will be one of the [[TokenGoodTeammate Good Spider-Man]]]]
Despite being ordered by Miguel on chasing Miles for some reason, it is likely it was only because he wants to help Miles understand about being Spider-Man including on helping the Spiderverse/Multiverse. Not to mention that this Peter did felt remorse for his actions, such as for letting Electro/Max escape, letting the Venom Symbiote control him, and for supposedly letting Harry’s father, Norman, died after the latter revealed himself to him as The Green Goblin.

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* [[spoiler: Semi-confirmed: [[spoiler:Semi-confirmed: The closest is the reveal of Captain George Stacy's death being canon in his universe but other than that, there's no implications or hints of what his life was like after the show]].

[[WMG: The Spectacular Spider-Man will be one of the [[TokenGoodTeammate Good Spider-Man]]]]
good Spider-Men]]]]
Despite being ordered by Miguel on chasing Miles for some reason, it is likely it was only because he wants to help Miles understand about being Spider-Man including on helping the Spiderverse/Multiverse.Spider-Verse/Multiverse. Not to mention that this Peter did felt remorse for his actions, such as for letting Electro/Max escape, letting the Venom Symbiote control him, and for supposedly letting Harry’s father, Norman, died after the latter revealed himself to him as The Green Goblin.



* [[spoiler: Confirmed. Other than Peni who has a few lines in the movie, the three of them appear in the final few seconds of the movie with Gwen as part of the upgraded Spider team]]

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* [[spoiler: Confirmed.[[spoiler:Confirmed. Other than Peni who has a few lines in the movie, the three of them appear in the final few seconds of the movie with Gwen as part of the upgraded Spider team]]



For some reason Miguel and The Spider Society are chasing after Miles despite him being a Spider Hero as well.

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For some reason Miguel and The the Spider Society are chasing after Miles despite him being a Spider Hero as well.



* [[spoiler:Confirmed. After Miles makes his escape, Gwen turns on the society, calling out Miguel and the rest of them on how they're "supposed to be the good guys". Some even appear to start questioning it themselves afterwards.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Miles Variant is The BigBad of the film]]]]
[[spoiler: There could be a reason on why Miles is being chased by The Spider Society.]]


[[WMG: [[spoiler: Miles Variant will convince Miles on [[WeCanRuleTogether joining him]]]]
[[spoiler: Because of how he was chased by Miguel and The Spider Society as well as because of doing his best to be Spider-Man to save people. Miles/Prowler will convince his variant on joining him because of how he just wanted to help people including protecting The Multiverse.]]

[[WMG: Miles will be in a BreakTheCutie Mode and will leave The Spiderverse]]

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* [[spoiler:Confirmed. After Miles makes his escape, Gwen turns on the society, Society, calling out Miguel and the rest of them on how they're "supposed to be the good guys". Some even appear to start questioning it themselves afterwards.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Miles [[spoiler:Miles' Variant is The BigBad of the film]]]]
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Miles [[spoiler:Miles' Variant will convince Miles on to [[WeCanRuleTogether joining join him]]]]
[[spoiler: Because [[spoiler:Because of how he was chased by Miguel and The Spider Society as well as because of doing his best to be Spider-Man to save people. Miles/Prowler will convince his variant on joining him because of how he just wanted to help people including protecting The Multiverse.]]

[[WMG: Miles will be in a BreakTheCutie Mode and will leave The Spiderverse]]Spider-Verse]]



Because of how the film has another sequel, it could be possible that it will have Miles end up trapped in another world where it reveal an alternate version of Miles being The Prowler of the universe, which will end on a Cliffhanger and will continue on Beyond The Spiderverse.

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Because of how the film has another sequel, it could be possible that it will have Miles end up trapped in another world where it reveal an alternate version of Miles being The Prowler of the universe, which will end on a Cliffhanger and will continue on Beyond The Spiderverse.Spider-Verse.



[[spoiler: CONFIRMED]].

[[WMG: The other Spiders will figure out that Miles is innocent]]
Despite all of the other Spiders chasing after Miles for some reason, it is highly likely that there doing their jobs, and are doing what is best for him.

Once they realize what they have done, there are possibilities of them [[HeelRealization realize that he is innocent]] it is highly likely that they will [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone regret]] for being too hard on him.


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[[spoiler: CONFIRMED]].

[[WMG: The other Spiders will figure out that Miles is innocent]]
Despite all of the other Spiders chasing after Miles for some reason, it is highly likely that there doing their jobs, and are doing what is best for him.

Once they realize what they have done, there are possibilities of them [[HeelRealization realize that he is innocent]] it is highly likely that they will [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone regret]] for being too hard on him.

[[spoiler:CONFIRMED]].



Because of how in one of the trailers or tv spots shows Miguel having fun with his daughter, may indicate that [[FreudianExcuse he had lost her]] which could explain his bitterness personality.
[[spoiler: CONFIRMED]].

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Because of how in one of the trailers or tv spots shows Miguel having fun with his daughter, may indicate that [[FreudianExcuse he had lost her]] which could explain his bitterness bitter personality.
[[spoiler: CONFIRMED]].
[[spoiler:CONFIRMED]].



Despite them currently only consisting only nine members so far that departing from The Spider Society so far, there is a chance that a few more could join over in Beyond The Spiderverse.

Most of them may be working for Miguel including on protecting The Spiderverse, but a few do at least have care, concern, and sympathy towards Miles despite chasing him.

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Despite them currently only consisting only nine members so far that departing from The Spider Society so far, there is a chance that a few more could join over in Beyond The Spiderverse.

Spider-Verse.

Most of them may be working for Miguel including on protecting The Spiderverse, the Spider-Verse, but a few do at least have care, concern, and sympathy towards Miles despite chasing him.



I mean there is going to be another film of The Spiderverse, which is Beyond The Spiderverse.

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I mean there is going to be another film of The Spiderverse, Spider-Verse, which is Beyond The Spiderverse.
Spider-Verse.



Since Beyond The Spiderverse will be resolving as Part Two of Spider-Man Across The Spiderverse, it would make sense since a few of them including the other animation, video game, and live-action ones haven’t appeared yet.


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Since Beyond The Spiderverse Spider-Verse will be resolving as Part Two of Spider-Man Across The Spiderverse, Spider-Verse, it would make sense since a few of them including the other animation, video game, and live-action ones haven’t appeared yet.




spoiler: Because of how hostile Miguel is towards Miles despite being claimed to be helping him as a defender in which he has been nothing but very cynical and harsh towards his teammates including Miles friends such as Gwen and Peter.

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spoiler: Because spoiler:Because of how hostile Miguel is towards Miles despite being claimed to be helping him as a defender in which he has been nothing but very cynical and harsh towards his teammates including Miles friends such as Gwen and Peter.



[[WMG: The other Spiders will figure out that Miles is innocent]]
Despite all of the other Spiders chasing after Miles for some reason, it is highly likely that they're doing their jobs, and are doing what is best for him.

Once they realize what they have done, there are possibilities of them [[HeelRealization realize that he is innocent]] it is highly likely that they will [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone regret]] for being too hard on him.

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[[WMG: The other Spiders will figure out that Miles is innocent]]
Despite all of the other Spiders chasing after Miles for some reason, it is highly likely that they're doing their jobs, and are doing what is best for him.

Once they realize what they have done, there are possibilities of them [[HeelRealization realize that he is innocent]] it is highly likely that they will [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone regret]] for being too hard on him.



Because of how there likely concern for Miles, want what is best for him, as well as let him know on how much Spider-Man is an important role to him, they’ll likely regret chasing him and will start beginning to help him take down The Spot from destroying the multiverse.

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Because of how there they're likely concern concerned for Miles, want what is best for him, as well as let him know on how much Spider-Man is an important role to him, they’ll likely regret chasing him and will start beginning to help him take down The Spot from destroying the multiverse.



As a callback to the villains of the original Spiderverse, and in the sense that he has "inherited" the dimensional powers from the colliders of the multiverse

[[WMG: A major character will die in The process of stopping the Spot.]]

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As a callback to the villains of the original Spiderverse, Spider-Verse, and in the sense that he has "inherited" the dimensional powers from the colliders of the multiverse

[[WMG: A major character will die in The the process of stopping the Spot.]]



[[WMG: The Spot is the ultimate cause of "canon" in the Spiderverse.]]

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[[WMG: The Spot is the ultimate cause of "canon" in the Spiderverse.Spider-Verse.]]



* It was the supercollider experiment that gave the Spot his powers, so naturally they should know what to do in order to stop Jonathan. In addition, Olivia became stranded on Earth-42 after her hilariously anticlimatic defeat in Into the Spider-Vese, and she'll be forced to form an alliance with Miles so they can escape. Finally, bonus points if they have Kingpin quote his counterpart from WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries.

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* It was the supercollider experiment that gave the Spot his powers, so naturally they should know what to do in order to stop Jonathan. In addition, Olivia became stranded on Earth-42 after her hilariously anticlimatic anticlimactic defeat in Into the Spider-Vese, Spider-Verse, and she'll be forced to form an alliance with Miles so they can escape. Finally, bonus points if they have Kingpin quote his counterpart from WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries.



* And of course.... ''[[spoiler: [[WebVideo/{{Smosh}} MANSPIDER!]]'']]


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* And of course.... ''[[spoiler: [[WebVideo/{{Smosh}} ''[[spoiler:[[WebVideo/{{Smosh}} MANSPIDER!]]'']]




* Noir and Ham weren't part of the Spider-Society at all, meaning they either didn't get invited, or Miguel purposefully kept them away for whatever reason. While Peni ''is'' apart of that group, she looked absolutely miserable on the brief amount of screen time she's given, which could imply she suffered another traumatic event off screen.

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* Noir and Ham weren't part of the Spider-Society at all, meaning they either didn't get invited, or Miguel purposefully kept them away for whatever reason. While Peni ''is'' apart a part of that group, she looked absolutely miserable on in the brief amount of screen time screentime she's given, which could imply she suffered another traumatic event off screen.
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While Gwen's motives, thought processes and actions are very much understandable and justified by where and how she was at that point, it still made things that much worse for Miles, who was already going through some pretty rough patches in life himself. We as the audience see where she's coming from, but it's evident that Miles lost all trust on her by the time he escaped the Spider Society, because PoorCommunicationKills and everything she could've said or done came too little too late for him, especially at the mercy of his alternate reality self.

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While Gwen's motives, thought processes and actions are very much understandable and justified by where and how she was at that point, it still made things that much worse for Miles, who was already going through some pretty rough patches in life himself. We as the audience see where she's coming from, but it's evident that Miles lost all trust on in her by the time he escaped the Spider Society, because PoorCommunicationKills and everything she could've said or done came too little too late for him, especially at the mercy of his alternate reality self.



Maybe knowing Miles is Spiderman plays a part in saving him without risking the multiverse.

And for the heck of it, might even lighten his grounding sentence.

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Maybe knowing Miles is Spiderman Spider-Man plays a part in saving him without risking the multiverse.

And for the heck of it, might even lighten his grounding sentence.
sentence because the reason he was grounded was because he was Spider-Man.



We've already seen the spot use his power to portal cut a webline, who's to say he doesn't get more ruthless about what he severs with it? Peter B with daughter Mayday in tow is looking more like the Peter Parker of the original Spider-Girl comics that feature her as a teen- a world where Peter lost his leg in a fight with the Green Goblin and had to retire from being Spider-Man. Perhaps ol' Peter B is destined to lose his leg like his comics counterpart, forcing his retirement at the film's climax, but leading to potential future Spider-Girl films.

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We've already seen the spot Spot use his power to portal cut a webline, who's to say he doesn't get more ruthless about what he severs with it? Peter B with daughter Mayday in tow is looking more like the Peter Parker of the original Spider-Girl comics that feature her as a teen- a world where Peter lost his leg in a fight with the Green Goblin and had to retire from being Spider-Man. Perhaps ol' Peter B is destined to lose his leg like his comics counterpart, forcing his retirement at the film's climax, but leading to potential future Spider-Girl films.



Despite being a colder EvilCounterpart Version of [[LegacyCharacter The Prowler]], he does appear to care about his brother, as it is heavily implied that He and Miles did a graffiti of him.

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Despite being a colder EvilCounterpart Version of [[LegacyCharacter The Prowler]], he does appear to care about his brother, as it is heavily implied that He he and Miles did a graffiti of him.



[[WMG: Jessica Drew will become more [[TookALevelinKindness kinder]] Beyond The Spiderverse]]

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* Adding onto this, perhaps losing whoever she lost was Jessica’s DeathByOriginStory as most Spider people lost someone close to them showing them that they cannot save everyone.

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* Adding onto this, perhaps losing whoever she lost was Jessica’s DeathByOriginStory as most Spider people Spider-People lost someone close to them showing them that they cannot save everyone.



With the Spot too big even for SP//dr to fight, Peni flees and tells the others she's going to borrow a weapon from "a friend." When she returns, we hear a familiar quote off screen in Japanese: [[spoiler: "[[Series/SpiderManJapan An emissary from hell, Spider-Man]]!" Then comes Leopardon]].
* [[spoiler: Bonus awesome points if it's a Leopardon suit in live action, maybe even against a still-2D-animated Spot.]]

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With the Spot too big even for SP//dr to fight, Peni flees and tells the others she's going to borrow a weapon from "a friend." When she returns, we hear a familiar quote off screen in Japanese: [[spoiler: "[[Series/SpiderManJapan [[spoiler:"[[Series/SpiderManJapan An emissary from hell, Spider-Man]]!" Then comes Leopardon]].
* [[spoiler: Bonus [[spoiler:Bonus awesome points if it's a Leopardon suit in live action, maybe even against a still-2D-animated Spot.]]



[[WMG: Jess will meet her variants of herself]]

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Beyond could have a few of her variants encounter or meet her throughout the Spiderverse either during or near before the final battle with The Spot, telling her the importance of being a hero including a good mentor to her protégé.

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Beyond could have a few of her variants encounter or meet her throughout the Spiderverse Spider-Verse either during or near before the final battle with The Spot, telling her the importance of being a hero including a good mentor to her protégé.



In the official poster for the movie, of all the spider-people that can be noticed, Gwen, Spider Man India, and Spider Punk are all depicted on the right side, and they all eventually defect from the Spider Society in order to go rescue Miles. Miguel, meanwhile, is depicted on the ''left'' side, and he has every intent to get rid of Miles once and for all. Considering this, the poster might be a slight clue as to which Spider-Men will join the Spider-Gang for ''Beyond'', and who are going to remain on Miguel's side.

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In the official poster for the movie, of all the spider-people Spider-People that can be noticed, Gwen, Spider Man Spider-Man India, and Spider Punk Spider-Punk are all depicted on the right side, and they all eventually defect from the Spider Society in order to go rescue Miles. Miguel, meanwhile, is depicted on the ''left'' side, and he has every intent to get rid of Miles once and for all. Considering this, the poster might be a slight clue as to which Spider-Men will join the Spider-Gang for ''Beyond'', and who are going to remain on Miguel's side.



[[WMG: The MCU or any of its alterate timelines will be featured in ''Beyond'']]
With the MCU's Multiverse Saga running concurrently with the ''Spider-Verse'' film series, it might be depicted in the art style of the similarly-PaintedCGI ''[[WesternAnimation/WhatIf2021 What If...?]]'' series or the [[AlternateTooniverse same live-action style with the Raimi and Webb films and Sony's Spider-Man Universe]]. Having similar story arcs to each other with threats to the multiverse, ''Beyond'' could make references to some events in the MCU, or feature the TVA, Kang or the Watcher.

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[[WMG: The MCU or any of its alterate alternate timelines will be featured in ''Beyond'']]
With the MCU's Multiverse Saga running concurrently with the ''Spider-Verse'' film series, it might be depicted in the art style of the similarly-PaintedCGI ''[[WesternAnimation/WhatIf2021 What If...?]]'' ''WesternAnimation/WhatIf'' series or the [[AlternateTooniverse same live-action style with the Raimi and Webb films and Sony's Spider-Man Universe]]. Having similar story arcs to each other with threats to the multiverse, ''Beyond'' could make references to some events in the MCU, or feature the TVA, Kang or the Watcher.



Since neither got to have comic-eqse character backstories like everyone in the ''Into the Spider-Verse'', Pravitir, and Hobie, it would awesome to see character of backstories of Margo the and Jessica. And anyone else who joins the Gwen's gang against Spot and the Spider-Society would also be a bonus point!

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Since neither got to have comic-eqse comic-esque character backstories like everyone in the ''Into the Spider-Verse'', Pravitir, and Hobie, it would awesome to see character of backstories of Margo the and Jessica. And anyone else who joins the Gwen's gang against Spot and the Spider-Society would also be a bonus point!



* For Jessica's case, she should get a backstory sequence after she (hopefully and should) [[HeelFaceTurn switches sides and joins the gang]] after finally deciding that Miguel is too far gone with his "Cannon Event" and "Anomaly" theories and see that Miles and Gwen are right that [[ScrewDestiny destiny can be changed]].

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* For Jessica's case, she should get a backstory sequence after she (hopefully and should) [[HeelFaceTurn switches sides and joins the gang]] after finally deciding that Miguel is too far gone with his "Cannon "Canon Event" and "Anomaly" theories and see that Miles and Gwen are right that [[ScrewDestiny destiny can be changed]].
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The lighting on Earth 42 makes it look like 1610 Miles himself has green eyes in a lot of the shots, and when 42 Miles reveals himself, the lighting still makes it hard to see what eye color he has, which is likely an indicator that he has green eyes himself, or at the very least a different color from "our" Miles.
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[[WMG: Gwen will save Rio's life]]
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spoiler: Because of how hostile Miguel is towards Miles despite being claimed to be helping him as a defender, there are possibilities on who could take his place.

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With Gwen having made her own spider team,
there are possibilities on who could take his place.
place as leader of The Spider Society who can be benevolent.



[[WMG: Jessica Drew will have HeelRealization/JerkassRealization]]

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[[WMG: [[WesternAnimation/WhatIf Zombie Hunter Spider-Man is a member of the Society]]

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The reason that Miles was transported to Earth-42 instead was because the machine scans which spider bit which Spider-person to avoid transporting them to the wrong dimension. Since Miles was bitten by the spider that came from Earth-42, he was transported to that world instead.

[[WMG: Miles isn't supposed to be Spider-man, which means he won't follow Canon Events]]
If Miles isn't supposed to be Spider-man and is instead just someone with the same powers, it means he won't undergo Canon Events like the death of a police captain. If this is true, it means Uncle Aaron's death was just a coincidence, he may have been Miles' uncle but his death never had to happen.

[[WMG: Spider-Ham and Noir refused to join the society after they learned about Miles and the group's intentions.]]

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The reason that Miles was transported to Earth-42 instead was because the machine scans which spider bit which Spider-person Spider-Person to avoid transporting them to the wrong dimension. Since Miles was bitten by the spider that came from Earth-42, he was transported to that world instead.

[[WMG: Miles isn't supposed to be Spider-man, Spider-Man, which means he won't follow Canon Events]]
If Miles isn't supposed to be Spider-man Spider-Man and is instead just someone with the same powers, it means he won't undergo Canon Events like the death of a police captain. If this is true, it means Uncle Aaron's death was just a coincidence, he may have been Miles' uncle but his death never had to happen.

[[WMG: Spider-Ham and Noir refused to join the society Society after they learned about Miles and the group's intentions.]]



Because of how Doctor Strange's spell worked, it's impossible for Toomes to have ended up in the SSU were not for unconventional means. A possible explanation being that the multiverse-breaking events of ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'' were responsible for creating an anomaly not unlike the Super-Collider, causing Toomes to end up in an universe in which he doesn't belong. Miguel does seem to see MCU Peter in a similar manner as Gwen in the beginning of the movie, so it is not too farfetched.

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Because of how Doctor Strange's spell worked, it's impossible for Toomes to have ended up in the SSU were not for unconventional means. A possible explanation being that the multiverse-breaking events of ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'' were responsible for creating an anomaly not unlike the Super-Collider, causing Toomes to end up in an universe in which he doesn't belong. Miguel does seem to see MCU Peter in a similar manner as Gwen in the beginning of the movie, so it is not too farfetched.far-fetched.



** Similarly, the MCU version of the Prowler got lost in the Multi-verse due to Doctor Strange's spell and is captured by the Spider Society for that very reason. The specific line from Miguel does indicate that the spell was a massive anomaly that they were likely dealing with prior to the events of the film.

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** Similarly, the MCU version of the Prowler got lost in the Multi-verse multiverse due to Doctor Strange's spell and is captured by the Spider Society for that very reason. The specific line from Miguel does indicate that the spell was a massive anomaly that they were likely dealing with prior to the events of the film.



Not saying this is how it actually works, but since Miguel seems to only concern himself with the continuity of other Spider-people, it's possible this is how he justified it:

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Not saying this is how it actually works, but since Miguel seems to only concern himself with the continuity of other Spider-people, Spider-People, it's possible this is how he justified it:



[[WMG: Universes aren't being destroyed due to canon events being stopped; they're destroyed because the "Collider Incident" ''is'' a cannon event.]]
In much the same way that Uncle Ben/Gwen Stacy moments happen across different universes, each universe will inevitably have its existence threatened by an individual like Spot/Kingpin or a group like Alchemax, which one or more Spider-people will have to stop. Even before Spot arrived to Pavitr's world, his version of Alchemax had a working super collider on the same scale as Kingpin's. With or without Spot, that collider would have caused some form of damage. The universe Miguel thought he destroyed wasn't erased due to his interference, it was destroyed due to a similar collider event ''not being stopped'' by that Earth's Spider-Man.

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[[WMG: Universes aren't being destroyed due to canon events being stopped; they're destroyed because the "Collider Incident" ''is'' a cannon canon event.]]
In much the same way that Uncle Ben/Gwen Stacy moments happen across different universes, each universe will inevitably have its existence threatened by an individual like Spot/Kingpin or a group like Alchemax, which one or more Spider-people Spider-People will have to stop. Even before Spot arrived to Pavitr's world, his version of Alchemax had a working super collider on the same scale as Kingpin's. With or without Spot, that collider would have caused some form of damage. The universe Miguel thought he destroyed wasn't erased due to his interference, it was destroyed due to a similar collider event ''not being stopped'' by that Earth's Spider-Man.



Similar to the above WMG but with Miles instead with the Prowler connection still being there now that we see that its possible for Miles to become the Prowler as well. It would give him a police captain to mourn, a reason why he got attached to Miles so quickly, and an explanation on why they can both do the hand thing to remove barriers. I also think this is more likely than the alternate Aaron hypothesis because Hobie has more facial similarities with Miles than with Aaron. Finally, this could explain why Gwen clicks so well with Hobie.

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Similar to the above WMG but with Miles instead with the Prowler connection still being there now that we see that its it's possible for Miles to become the Prowler as well. It would give him a police captain to mourn, a reason why he got attached to Miles so quickly, and an explanation on why they can both do the hand thing to remove barriers. I also think this is more likely than the alternate Aaron hypothesis because Hobie has more facial similarities with Miles than with Aaron. Finally, this could explain why Gwen clicks so well with Hobie.



** The reason Miguel says the event is a death is because that's the most probable way a police captain would lose their job.




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* Earth-42's spider biting Miles still counts as the bite. That's why Earth-42 is intact.



The Earth 19999 referenced by Miguel is part of the same multiverse (the Spider Verse) where this movie and the previous one take place. The Earth 616 that is the center of the MCU multiverse and that was created by the death of He Who Remains is virtually identical to it, with some difference owing to different multiversal rules and the presence of Kang. Earths that have crossed over with both the Spider Verse and the MCU, such as [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse Sony's Spider-Man Universe]], also have duplicates.

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The Earth 19999 referenced by Miguel is part of the same multiverse (the Spider Verse) where this movie and the previous one take place. The Earth 616 that is the center of the MCU multiverse and that was created by the death of He Who Remains is virtually identical to it, with some difference owing to different multiversal rules and the presence of Kang. Earths that have crossed over with both the Spider Verse Spider-Verse and the MCU, such as [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse Sony's Spider-Man Universe]], also have duplicates.



The idea of Miles "breaking canon" seems like a jab at comic readers who can't accept change and want everything to stay the same. Miguel telling Miles he is not supposed to be Spider-man could also be a jab about real-life comic readers who think Miles should not be Spider-man. Miguel represents the REALLY obsessive comic fan who becomes unhinged when a lore has been changed.

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The idea of Miles "breaking canon" seems like a jab at comic readers who can't accept change and want everything to stay the same. Miguel telling Miles he is not supposed to be Spider-man could also be a jab about real-life comic readers who think Miles should not be Spider-man.Spider-Man. Miguel represents the REALLY obsessive comic fan who becomes unhinged when a lore has been changed.



[[WMG: Earth-42's "missing" Spider-man means other marvel heroes aren't present either.]]

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[[WMG: Earth-42's "missing" Spider-man Spider-Man means other marvel Marvel heroes aren't present either.]]



Miles got bitten by a radioactive spider that was supposed to bite Earth-42's Miles, but the canon events are being tracked via the spiders that give each Spider-Person their powers even though they're tied to the individual people. Miguel is confusing the canon of Earth-42 Miles with that of the Miles that the audience follows. The Officer Jefferson Davis that was supposed to die already has died and Miguel is confusing the two worlds canons because the radioactive spider hopped dimensions. He's trying to let Miles' dad die for no reason and isn't aware of it. Furthermore, Miles already went through his own canon loss when Uncle Aaron died. Our Miles was originally supposed to be a heroic Prowler.

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Miles got bitten by a radioactive spider that was supposed to bite Earth-42's Miles, but the canon events are being tracked via the spiders that give each Spider-Person their powers even though they're tied to the individual people. Miguel is confusing the canon of Earth-42 Miles with that of the Miles that the audience follows. The Officer Jefferson Davis that was supposed to die already has died and Miguel is confusing the two worlds worlds' canons because the radioactive spider hopped dimensions. He's trying to let Miles' dad die for no reason and isn't aware of it. Furthermore, Miles already went through his own canon loss when Uncle Aaron died. Our Miles was originally supposed to be a heroic Prowler.




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** Or the multiverse itself got baffled and goofed up. The Uncle Ben death is an uncle 99% of the time and it always happens soon after the Spider gains their powers.



* [[DeathByOriginStory The death of a loved one]] that teaches the Spider the importance of [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility responsibility]].

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* [[DeathByOriginStory The death of a loved one]] (typically an uncle) that teaches the Spider the importance of [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility responsibility]].



* The romantic partner dying due to a fight between the Spider and a supervillain.



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Owing to his status as the anomalous Spidey, Miles' backstory has caught both Miguel and Lyla's predictive model off-guard. Jefferson's promotion to Captain is a red herring. The captain fulfilling that role in Earth-1610B Miles'life is his late uncle Aaron. Who indirectly died on account of Miles' actions while a high ranking member of Kingpins crime syndicate, potentially holding the rank of Capo. Additionally, Miles' indirectly causing his uncles death is reminiscent of Uncle Ben's fate in some adaptions.

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Owing to his status as the anomalous Spidey, Miles' backstory has caught both Miguel and Lyla's predictive model off-guard. Jefferson's promotion to Captain is a red herring. The captain fulfilling that role in Earth-1610B Miles'life Miles' life is his late uncle Aaron. Who indirectly died on account of Miles' actions while a high ranking member of Kingpins crime syndicate, potentially holding the rank of Capo. Additionally, Miles' indirectly causing his uncles death is reminiscent of Uncle Ben's fate in some adaptions.



Miguel shows some very obvious signs of vampirism in Across the Spiderverse. He grows fangs and becomes visibly paler at several moments, and he has none of the traditional powers of a Spider-Man (his webs are hard light, he doesn't have a spider sense, he has to use his claws to climb walls).

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Miguel shows some very obvious signs of vampirism in Across the Spiderverse.Spider-Verse. He grows fangs and becomes visibly paler at several moments, and he has none of the traditional powers of a Spider-Man (his webs are hard light, he doesn't have a spider sense, he has to use his claws to climb walls).



* With the idea that E-42 Miles should have been his realities Spider-Man, 1610 Miles will convince him to become a hero as well, either as Prowler (original 616 Prowler is not a villain) or a reband his equipment to let him be a powerless version of Spider-Man as fulfillment of the first film's idea that ''anyone'', powers or not, can be spider-man.

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* With the idea that E-42 Miles should have been his realities reality's Spider-Man, 1610 Miles will convince him to become a hero as well, either as Prowler (original 616 Prowler is not a villain) or a reband his equipment to let him be a powerless version of Spider-Man as fulfillment of the first film's idea that ''anyone'', powers or not, can be spider-man.
Spider-Man.



* If she has a speaking role, famous canadian VA Creator/TaraStrong will voice her.

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* If she has a speaking role, famous canadian Canadian VA Creator/TaraStrong will voice her.



[[WMG: Gwen will "die", but Miles will revive her by using his electricity to start her heart.]]

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[[WMG: Gwen will "die", but Miles will revive her by using his electricity to start restart her heart.]]




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* But he isn't the reason Earth-42's spider went to his universe.



* Spot sees Miguel's Spider-people gathering around the Morales residence and backs off, even if they were sent there to ''make sure'' he kills Jefferson

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* Spot sees Miguel's Spider-people Spider-People gathering around the Morales residence and backs off, even if they were sent there to ''make sure'' he kills Jefferson



Gwen's father survived, so he won't die-but Gwen still suffers from the rift between them, and later from betraying Miles and getting thrown out of the Spider Is

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Gwen's father survived, so he won't die-but Gwen still suffers from the rift between them, and later from betraying Miles and getting thrown out of the Spider IsSociety.




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* I have a similar idea: Miguel not knowing what the Canon Events actually are. For example, the death of a captain close to Spider-Man event really being the captain losing their job and the easiest way for that to happen is death.



One of first signs of Miguel's SanitySlippage but also his own undoing. As the search for Miles proves fruitless, Spot gets fed up with Miguel's preaches only for Miguel to call Spot as "just a villain". This causes Spot to see that even when he's all-powerful, he's still treated as basic, causing him to go from hurting Miles to destroying every Spider-Man across the Multiverse, starting with the Spider Society.

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One of first signs of Miguel's SanitySlippage but also his own undoing. As the search for Miles proves fruitless, Spot gets fed up with Miguel's preaches only for Miguel to call Spot as "just a villain". This causes Spot to see that even when he's all-powerful, he's still treated as basic, causing him to go from hurting Miles to destroying every Spider-Man across the Multiverse, multiverse, starting with the Spider Society.



[[WMG:Miles will defeat the Spot through BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind]]

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[[WMG: [[WesternAnimation/WhatIf Zombie Hunter Spider-Man is a member of the Society]]
Not that we'll actually see him, of course. He is not the "nerd from 199999" Miguel hates. He's just a direct variant of that Spidey who, obviously, never did what Miguel hates his Sacred Timeline self for.

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