History WMG / PhineasAndFerbTheMovieAcrossThe2ndDimension

* And his name is [[Main/FullMetalAlchemist The Truth]]

[[WMG: The eviler Doofenshmirtz in TheMovie will be a KnightOfCerebus]]

[[WMG: The eviler Doofenshmirtz in TheMovie will be a CompleteMonster]]

** In a way, confirmed. [[spoiler: Although Doof-2 is closest to a CompleteMonster we have had, he does abruptly end all his evil the second Doof-1 gives him a toy train...]], that does not happen in a DarkerAndEdgier universe...

[[WMG: The reason Alt. Doofenshmirtz will be a CompleteMonster (or something close to that) is because he never had Vanessa / never met Charlene]]

* This carries FridgeHorror. After all, it suggests that the only thing stopping Doof-1 from being a borderline CompleteMonster, is the fact it was crushed out of him by his parents.

Well, it is a RousseauWasRight series, after all, and this mirrors with perfection Doof-1 "I am evil because my parents are bastards" FreudianExcuse. Doof-1 some times wishes the approval of their parents but not admires them. Doof-2, in contrast, already have( or, similar to Phineas, guessed that have) the approval of his family. Well, considering that Doof is basically Phineas all grown-up and with a childhood totally different, imagine Phineas with the personality traits of Doof's parents at the place of the personality traits of his parents...

[[WMG:Alternate Doofensmirtz isn't as intelligent as regular Doofensmirtz, but has more common sense.]]
Regular Doofensmirtz's FreudianExcuse inspired him to become really smart to compensate, but at the cost of his common sense. Alternate Doofensmirtz didn't have as tragic a childhood, so is more savvy.

[[WMG:Alternate Doofensmirtz never married Charlene, and never had Vanessa as a daughter.]]

If only because it would be priceless to have a scene in which Doof-2 says ''Perry the platyborg... RISE!!''.

[[spoiler:This, along with having to spend all her time fighting witches instead of supporting her relationships, will [[DespairEventHorizon completely darken her]] ((Soul |Jar))Gem and she will turn into a witch. "Quantum Boogaloo" takes place in a timeline where she doesn't contract.]]

** See it's entry on The Other Wiki. Hopefully this is merely due to lack of information either way to post a Vanessa appearance as fact. Really, really hope so.

A bit of FridgeHorror. The scene in which Doof-2 explains how he lost his toy train. Did you notice that he actually had the Eye Patch when he was a kid? The only explanation is that some adult in his life was very abusive, took his eye out and forced Doof-2 to take his eye with him in a pouch.

So, what happens is that Doof-2 repressed that awful event. And his toy train was the way he escaped reality. Unfortunately, the abusive figure noticed it and stole his toy train. And Doof-2 related his loss of this chance to escape reality as his FreudianExcuse because he did as best to forget the real reason.

* Well, he didn't ''specifically'' say that losing his toy train was the only childhood event which made him evil.

* No real reason for this, besides the styles being similar and the shear contrast between the two.

[[WMG: Slash will either make another appearance, cameo, referance to, or mention later in the series.]]

Duh

While Doof-2 apparently defeated Perry-2/Playborg a long time ago, he seems to have been depending on his former nemesis and army of Norm-bots to take care of any problem that might occur and likely never has to get his own hands dirty. And since Phineas-2 stated that their Perry vanished a long time ago (and summer itself was outlawed years ago), that has probably been several years since Doof-2 had to fight ''anyone.'' Doof-1, however, fights against Perry every single day. He might not win, but there are several episodes where he manages to hold his own for a reasonable amount of time against the playpus. Even ''if'' Doof-2 used to physically combat his nemesis prior to taking over the Tri-State Area, he would be very out of practice by this point. This might explain why Doof-2 had so much trouble trying to land a hit on Phineas near the end, even though the boy has never been any type of fight worse than a thumb war. While Doof-2 might be more {{Genre Savvy}} than his Alternate Universe counterpart, Doof-1 could beat him in a straight fight.

After all, if you (or at least, you claim) become evil ''just because you lost a toy train'', there must've been something seriously wrong you from the get go. While it is what motivated him, it isn't what sparked Doof-2's evil. It's very possible that he was an EnfanteTerrible, and considered losing his toy train to be what sparked his turn to villainy. Or Doof-2 became evil ''specifically'' because his life was happy. The latter could add a lot of FridgeHorror: the only reason Doof-1 is an Anti-Villian is because of his MoralEventHorizon-crossing parents, meaning the two are NotSoDifferent. Doof-2 may [[spoiler: have given up when he got his choo-choo]], but that doesn't change the fact he's likely still the same demented person he always was. If he ever appears again, it'll be revealed that he's [[spoiler: gone back to evil]], since he's got nothing else to do. Doof-2 is TheSociopath, and ultimately he'll find it more efficent to be what he truly is: a freak without a human heart.

[[WMG: This movie was actully [[spoiler: the movie Phineas mentioned at the end of Teleporters of DOOM, meaning THAT is the canon!]]]]
* On Teleporters Of Doom, [[spoiler: Phinease saids that they will go to the movies,]] and in Robot Riot, Phineas ''APPROVES'' of Perry being a secret agent like most kids will be like, unlike the movie. And for extra epicness, it would be revealed that Phineas and Ferb made it. This could be real for 4 reasons.
** 1. It would be revealed at the end of the series that the kids and Perry in his agent P state were in the movies, and than have to go to foil the sinister plans of [[InsertNameHere *Insert Truely Evil Villian Here*]] and will go do so, meaniing that they are in OWAC.
** 2.Phineas approving of Perry being a secret agent is ''FAR,'' '''FAR,''' '''''FAR,''''' more relistic than the movie's reaction, meaning it was acted out.

[[WMG: "Mysterious Force" is real.]]

* Again, [[spoiler: photos are the proof.]] Phineas was just putting up a act for Doof-2 so that he will think it '''WAS''' real, thus, when learning that Perry was kidnapped, he [[DidntThinkThisThrough tried to rescue him.]] The only thing that COULD be real is if Perry WAS using him as a cover, or he could be trying to still convince Doof-2. This also explains how his anger calmed down unexpecticed like. Ferb could also be in on it.

[[WMG:Candace-2 is a TimeLord]] [[TropeExampleLaws Every page needs one.]]

[[WMG: The entire movie is Perry's dream]]

Hell, I even have a whole headcannon for it. It's a bit cliche but I've given it thought.

Okay,so he's got the same childhood past as Doof-1- neglected and raised by ocelots and all. And he beared with it, like Doof 1. But he had ONE very close friend that greatly helped him do so. On Doof 2's birthday, that friend gave him a toy train, and on it they swore they would be best friends forever. Fast forward several months. It is the day of the Doofenshmirtz family reunion. The friend is not part of the family by blood,but he/she goes anyway. Doof is being embarassingly uncoordinated as usual,but his best friend cheers him on. After the game, Doof is humiliated so bad that he runs from the field crying, Best Friend following and trying to calm him down. In his stress,Doof yells at Best Friend to go away. They argue a little,leading to Doof to say horrible,personal things to Best Friend. Then Best Friend is now the one to run away in tears. A few days later, they have not spoken to each other since. Doof feels guilty about the incident at the reunion, so he goes to Best Friend to apologize. Best Friend gives Doof a very happy look and waves him hello(or goodbye...)before he/she gets struck by a car(or some other sort of vehicle in Druelselstein that can accidentally cause death.) However he/she does not die immeadiately. Best Friend dies in the totally shocked and sobbing Doof's arms,his/her last words being "Remember our Choo-Choo Pact? We'll... always... be friends..."

* And yes, I could have just typed "Choo-Choo was his Tragic Keepsake relating to a dead friend." but I really wanted to share my headcannon.

[[WMG: Isabella Major Monogram's stepdaughter, thus she is immune to the Memory-Erase-Inator]]
Perhaps ''that's'' why Isabella didn't mind kissing Phineas before the Memory-Erase-Inator was activated. She'll remember the kiss, but Phineas won't. That's also why we don't see Isabella being surprised that her pet Pinky is a secret agent.

** She was included so her friends wouldn't ask questions. Remember when Perry appeared and Phineas was confused? Besides, maybe Isabella has some device with her to prevent herself from the effects of the Memory-Erase-Inator.

Litteraly dozens of people witnessed the robot invasion and the battle that followed. It even got broadcasted on the local news. So just erasing the memories of Phineas and Ferb, their friends, and Doofenshmirtz wouldn't be enough. It would only be a matter of time before they discovered that a robot invasion had taken place and their inventions were used to stop it (from either seeing news footage or hearing it from other people), after which they would most likely try to find out what realy happened and why they can't remember it, thus discovering Perry's secret again. The solution: the O.W.C.A. had everyones memories wiped out afterwards and secured the footage of the invasion.

[[WMG: Doof-1 will become so evil as Doof-2]]
* Once the Memory-Erase-Inator makes Doof-1 forget the whole thing, he'll eventually wonder what happened to ''his'' Choo-Choo. Then again, he already did his toy train related share of evil in "Not Phineas and Ferb".

** How was there an active effort to hide everything about her?
*** It is either that or ChuckCunninghamSyndrome, you pick.
**** After all, you'd think Doof would've asked his alternate self about ''his'' daughter...

* Or he could of hit his eye with something, or just has a bad eye.

[[WMG:P&F suffered a temporary bust pre-movie...]]

[[WMG:P&F suffered a temporary bust pre-movie...]]
...but the memories of their mother were wiped by the Amnesia-inator.

[[WMG: Candace and Candace-2 are alternate-dimension versions of [[TheHungerGames Katniss]].]]

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[[WMG: ''Across the Second Dimension'' was partially inspired by the series 2 arc of the new ''Series/DoctorWho'' series (especially the episodes "Rise of the Cybermen", "The Age of Steel" and "Doomsday").]]

[[WMG: The last dimension they travel through during Brand New Reality is a [[PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Witch's Maze]]]]

* [[SouthPark Slash isn't real after all]]

* ...What, ''somebody'' had to say it, (Most likely those who saw it on Verison first)! Perry [[spoiler: would use the pictures he took in the second dimension and E-mail them to Phineas and delete the proof surrounding it to him.]] This could explain Perry throwing the chair in the preview for [[spoiler: Meap-less in Seattle due to Carl finding out the e-mail sent to Phineas.]]

[[WMG: There was no deeper meaning tO choo-choo. Doof-2 was just incredibly spoiled.]]
* upon finding out his favorite toy was lost, he threw a huge fit. And when his parents couldn't find it, he swore revenge. So, he took over the tri-state area.

** And that leads to ''my''' WMG

** Semi-jossed: He crosses the MoralEventHorizon and is an EvilOverlord, but he's so damn zany he's just inches away [[CompleteMonster from the depravity abyss.]] Plus [[spoiler: [[HeelFaceTurn he gave up]] when he got his choo-choo back.]]

*** Plus, despite his MoralEventHorizon, he's ''barely'' avoided the CompleteMonster label by still keeping his zany and quirky personality.

After all, if you (or at least, you claim) become evil ''just because you lost a toy train'', there must've been something seriously wrong you from the get go. While it is what motivated him, it isn't what sparked Doof-2's evil. It's very possible that he was an EnfanteTerrible, and considered losing his toy train to be what sparked his turn to villainy. Or Doof-2 became evil ''specifically'' because his life was happy. The latter could add a lot of FridgeHorror: the only reason Doof-1 is an Anti-Villian is because of his MoralEventHorizon-crossing parents, meaning the two are NotSoDifferent. Doof-2 may [[spoiler: have given up when he got his choo-choo]], but that doesn't change the fact he's likely still the same demented person he always was. If he ever appears again, it'll be revealed that he's [[spoiler: gone back to evil]], since he's got nothing else to do. Doof-2 is TheSociopath, and ultimately he'll find it more efficent to be what he truly is: [[CompleteMonster a freak without a human heart.]]

** Did you catch the red D logo in Baljeet's shirt? It looks like something related to Doof-2. I would say that Doof-2 probably set an environment that detect kids with mad scientist potential and enlists them to be taught how to be evil Doctors. Since Baljeet lives so close to the center of the resistance and is probably frenemies with Bufford he became a double agent rather than going evil and is using what he learned in Evil doctor school to aid the resistance making cool gadgets. This would also explain Candace's backstory, the Flint-Fletchers had to work very hard to avoid having their kids detected as potential mad scientists.

[[WMG: The real reason Doof-2 is so evil is because he ''never'' had a child unlike the main Dr. Doofenshmirtz]]: Think about this, Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz clearly adores his daughter, and it brings out his soft caring side. In the parallel universe, the alternate Doofensmirtz has never had anyone to truly care about. This would, also, explain why we never saw an alternate Vanessa. The toy train was simply a cover.

*** Ferb probably just realizes more than Phineas that being seen as a normal kid and building all kinds of things and going on crazy addventures like they do aren't consistnet with each other

That's why she doesn't appear and isn't mentioned and why Candace-2 is a [[KnightTemplarParent KnightTemplarBigSister]]. She already lost someone she loved.

* Kinda Confirmed since the creators originally wanted the ending to be that way, but was scraped.

* Plus, Ferb has a ridiculously awesome swiss army knife, so it makes sense that Phineas would have something similar.

It's said that Doof-2 had a way better childhood than our doof just because Doof-2 lost his train. One of the main reasons Doof's childhood stunk was because both his parents liked Roger better. If Doof-2 doesn't have any of Doof-1's excuses then that either means Roger wasn't born and Doof-2 was an only child or Doof-2 got rid of him later in life.

Could be related to the theory about how Doof-2 isn't as intelligent as Doof 1, but has more common sense. Doof-1 has tragic backstory on tragic backstory, and is a HarmlessVillain, while Doof-2 has one minor one and is actually effective. The difference is that Doof-1 has had most of his spirit, self-confidence and common sense pummelled out of him by his various tragedies, while Doof-2 just had a nudge without the spiritual crippling.

* Hah, almost forgot the LamePun part of this thought: Doof-1 is more Self Destructive (not [[DrivenToSuicide that]]) than Doof-2. Which manifests by prominent self-destruct buttons on all his devices. Doof-2 isn't as self destructive, and so they aren't as easily found. But Doof-1, knowing himself better than anyone else, was able to find that part of Doof-2's psyche with Choo-choo.

** [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop Just remember parents: If you think your child may grow up to be evil, make sure to completely crush their self-esteem so that they are unable to form or follow a coherent or rational plan!]]

* I could see it happening. As Phineas and Ferb are being strangled by one of the giant robots, Irving shows up in [[TheTerminator Terminator gear]] and touts a [[OneLiner dramatic one-liner]] before blasting the robot with his shotgun. The shot causes the robot to fly back, dropping Phin and Ferb, and to crash into numerous other robots. They all fall down and explode, the explosion sucking in the rest of the robots and Doofenshmirtz-2, and saving the day. Or, in an alternate ending, the explosion blows up half of Danville and kills everyone except for Irving. It then leaves a cliffhanger for the upcoming theatrical film, which actually focuses on Irving being the only living person in the Tri-State Area ala "[[IAmLegend I Am Legend]]", and having to find some way to bring life back to the barren town.

Just a really silly CrossOver WMG, quite honestly. Was I really the only one to jump up and point at my TV upon hearing "Other''[[NamesTheSame dimensionator]]''"? [[hottip:* : [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome Actually... I probably was]].]] I know it's just a byproduct of the ThingOMatic ThemeNaming on Doof's part, but it was too tempting to pass up. Here's to hoping that Heinz doesn't [[DevelopmentGag create a]] [[RatchetAndClankFutureToolsOfDestruction time-space]] [[TechnoBabble singularity.]]

** While it wasn't in this movie, Monogram uses the term [[AccidentalNightmareFuel Nightmare Fuel]] to describe Meap in a DVDCommentary.

* A little bit of a XanatosGambit by him, hoping that Alt-Perry (from his point of view) would be able to do something about Overlord Doof.

They still went on that date at the drive-in. She's still the one who convinced him to settle for the Tri-state area. She's afraid he'll notice her and come after her, especially after she sees a member of her family doing something they're not supposed to.

1. Just because Perry dreamed about the place doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

* OP again: Combined with a Date Fail with Linda (per the WMG above; remember she was the one who suggested he start with just the Tri-State Area rather than the whole world), and not insecure enough to seek the approval of others, did not wind up marrying Charlene and having Vanessa (also per WMGs above), so isn't a bit softer by having cared for someone. Thus he treated his nemesis as an actual enemy, and not as a substitute family or friend. Doof-1's plans are almost all aimed at petty revenge for his various backstories, but Doof-2 doesn't have those, and so he concentrated on the main goal of conquering the Tri-State Area. Once he defeated Agent P-2 it was easy, as we can see that Perry is the top agent in OWCA. All the agents working together can only slow down a small group of Normbots before being defeated. Agent P-1 jumps in and manages to take out a half-dozen alone before being grabbed.

Litteraly dozens of people witnessed the robot invasion and the battle that followed. It even got broadcasted on the local news. So just erasing the memories of Phineas, Ferb and their friends wouldn't be enough; it would only be a matter of time before they discovered what happened from news footage and from what other people tell them. The solution: the O.W.C.A. had everyones memories wiped out and secured the footage of the invasion.