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Given the recent revelation that the American branch is called 'Statesman', that rules out the comic book characters, but not everything else.
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** Resistant, but not completely bulletproof. [[spoiler:If that's anything to go by, he ''has'' lost an eye.]] Which frankly, the fangirls predicted, if only because [[spoiler: EyepatchOfPower equals RuleOfCool]].
* [[spoiler: Harry and Merlin figured out before Eggsy did that Chester was a traitor and played a long game to oust him and get close to Valentine to stop him. Unfortunately, that forced Harry to fake his death so Merlin could use Eggsy as the assassin. Why else was Eggsy allowed to see Harry's 'death'? Merlin could have cut the feed at any time.]]
* [[spoiler: Harry and Merlin figured out before Eggsy did that Chester was a traitor and played a long game to oust him and get close to Valentine to stop him. Unfortunately, that forced Harry to fake his death so Merlin could use Eggsy as the assassin. Why else was Eggsy allowed to see Harry's 'death'? Merlin could have cut the feed at any time.]]
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** Alternate idea: [[spoiler: he was a sleeper agent on Kingsman's side the whole time]]. That, however, basically hinges on [[spoiler: Harry and Merlin figuring out everything ahead of time and playing a long game to oust Chester.]] See above.
** Alternate idea: [[spoiler: he was a sleeper agent on Kingsman's side the whole time]]. That, however, basically hinges on [[spoiler: Harry and Merlin figuring out everything ahead of time and playing a long game to oust Chester.]] See above.
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* Harry's glasses are bullet-resistant. [[spoiler:Backed up by the teaser poster for the sequel.]]
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# The kiss of Eggsy's signet ring shorted out the ship and left it dormant.
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# The kiss of Eggsy's signet ring shorted out the ship chip and left it dormant.
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Charlie]] survived]]
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Charlie]] survived]]Charlie survived]] ]]
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[[WMG: Same goes for the Berlin branch.]]
The leader of the branch is named Bismarck, and the agents are named for anti-Nazi soldiers (like Rommel or Stauffenberg) or Prussian soldiers (like Clausewitz).
The leader of the branch is named Bismarck, and the agents are named for anti-Nazi soldiers (like Rommel or Stauffenberg) or Prussian soldiers (like Clausewitz).
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Then again, [[SelfDeprecation the troper writing all this]] was probably [[MST3KMantra taking the movie waaaay too seriously when writing this WMG.]] Then again, this is, after all, WildMassGuessing...
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Then again, [[SelfDeprecation the troper writing all this]] was probably [[MST3KMantra taking the movie waaaay too seriously when writing this WMG.]] Then again, this is, after all, WildMassGuessing...WildMassGuessing...
[[WMG: [[spoiler: Charlie]] survived]]
Even though he was shown to be in on Valentine's plan, it's been confirmed that [[spoiler: Edward Holcroft]] will be returning for the sequel. Thus, there's two possibilities:
# He joined so late that he didn't bother getting the implant chip.
# The kiss of Eggsy's signet ring shorted out the ship and left it dormant.
[[WMG: [[spoiler: Charlie]] survived]]
Even though he was shown to be in on Valentine's plan, it's been confirmed that [[spoiler: Edward Holcroft]] will be returning for the sequel. Thus, there's two possibilities:
# He joined so late that he didn't bother getting the implant chip.
# The kiss of Eggsy's signet ring shorted out the ship and left it dormant.
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A version that makes people more suggestible and self-centred/less empathetic rather than a homocidal berserker. Obviously its not quite as effective as the berserker version (though even Valentine was surprised at how effective that version turned out to be), which was why the back up plan of imprisoning those who didn't agree was employed, but it would explain how readily he got so many disparate people to agree so ''quickly'' almost to the point of EasyEvangelism.
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A version that makes people more suggestible and self-centred/less empathetic rather than a homocidal homicidal berserker. Obviously its it's not quite as effective as the berserker version (though even Valentine was surprised at how effective that version turned out to be), which was why the back up plan of imprisoning those who didn't agree was employed, but it would explain how readily he got so many disparate people to agree so ''quickly'' almost to the point of EasyEvangelism.
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* There are two possibilities here - either Musk is complicit in Valentine's plan, or he isn't one of the prominent figures that Valentine deemed worthy of salvation. It's possible Valentine just asked a friend to sign his own death warrant.
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[[WMG: What really happens after the events of the movie, courtesy of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]] ]]
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[[WMG: [[https://youtu.be/ehNHXNA1e6E?t=33s What really happens after the events of the movie, movie,]] courtesy of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]] ]]
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The result... well....
[[https://youtu.be/ehNHXNA1e6E?t=33s Needless to say,]] [[NuclearOption it's not looking good]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero for the rest of humanity.]]
** On the other hand, as dark as it sounds, one could consider it act as an act of global MercyKill of sorts for [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone everyone currently suffering from PTSD]] after exposure to Valentine's [[HatePlague Superweapon.]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Either way...]]
[[https://youtu.be/ehNHXNA1e6E?t=33s Needless to say,]] [[NuclearOption it's not looking good]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero for the rest of humanity.]]
** On the other hand, as dark as it sounds, one could consider it act as an act of global MercyKill of sorts for [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone everyone currently suffering from PTSD]] after exposure to Valentine's [[HatePlague Superweapon.]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Either way...]]
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[[https://youtu.be/ehNHXNA1e6E?t=33s Needless to say,]]
** On the other hand, as dark as it sounds, one could consider it
Then again, [[SelfDeprecation the troper writing all this]] was probably [[MST3KMantra taking the movie waaaay too seriously when writing this WMG.]]
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Elon Musk. Rich guy who plans to bring Wifi around the world with satellites? He very well would've helped Valentine out when he needed another satellite, not knowing what his real plans were.
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Elon Musk. Rich guy who plans to bring Wifi around the world with satellites? He very well would've helped Valentine out when he needed another satellite, not knowing what his real plans were.were.
[[WMG: What really happens after the events of the movie, courtesy of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]] ]]
So, here's the thing. Valentine maybe dead, but so are all the world leaders. And not to mention the entire world's still in chaos and disarray after the events of the movie. Not only are most civilians affected by Valentine's [[HatePlague Hate Plague's]] currently suffering from [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the biggest, global epidemic of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder]] yet, but once again. Most of the world's militaries have lost their leaders as well.
The result... well....
[[https://youtu.be/ehNHXNA1e6E?t=33s Needless to say,]] [[NuclearOption it's not looking good]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero for the rest of humanity.]]
**On the other hand, as dark as it sounds, one could consider it act as an act of global MercyKill of sorts for [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone everyone currently suffering from PTSD]] after exposure to Valentine's [[HatePlague Superweapon.]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Either way...]]
[[WMG: What really happens after the events of the movie, courtesy of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]] ]]
So, here's the thing. Valentine maybe dead, but so are all the world leaders. And not to mention the entire world's still in chaos and disarray after the events of the movie. Not only are most civilians affected by Valentine's [[HatePlague Hate Plague's]] currently suffering from [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the biggest, global epidemic of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder]] yet, but once again. Most of the world's militaries have lost their leaders as well.
The result... well....
[[https://youtu.be/ehNHXNA1e6E?t=33s Needless to say,]] [[NuclearOption it's not looking good]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero for the rest of humanity.]]
**On the other hand, as dark as it sounds, one could consider it act as an act of global MercyKill of sorts for [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone everyone currently suffering from PTSD]] after exposure to Valentine's [[HatePlague Superweapon.]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Either way...]]
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* Harry Hart is a [[Series/DoctorWho Time Lord]], and Colin Firth will return [[spoiler: only for the regeneration sequence.]]
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* If this is true it's also possible that the implanted chips helped keep those who did agree in the right frame of mind and prevented them from having second thoughts.
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* If this is true it's also possible that the implanted chips helped keep those who did agree in the right frame of mind and prevented them from having second thoughts.thoughts.
[[WMG: "E" is...]]
Elon Musk. Rich guy who plans to bring Wifi around the world with satellites? He very well would've helped Valentine out when he needed another satellite, not knowing what his real plans were.
[[WMG: "E" is...]]
Elon Musk. Rich guy who plans to bring Wifi around the world with satellites? He very well would've helped Valentine out when he needed another satellite, not knowing what his real plans were.
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* Comic book characters.
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* Comic book characters. They're the closest thing to legendary knights America has.
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* Former Presidents.
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* Comic book characters.
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[[WMG: Kingsman was a branch of S.H.I.E.L.D.]]
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Two characters named Harry both played by Colin Firth? Coincidence? I think not.
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Two characters named Harry both played by Colin Firth? Coincidence? I think not.not.
[[WMG: Valentine was using a different version of his rage inducing technology when recruiting]]
A version that makes people more suggestible and self-centred/less empathetic rather than a homocidal berserker. Obviously its not quite as effective as the berserker version (though even Valentine was surprised at how effective that version turned out to be), which was why the back up plan of imprisoning those who didn't agree was employed, but it would explain how readily he got so many disparate people to agree so ''quickly'' almost to the point of EasyEvangelism.
* If this is true it's also possible that the implanted chips helped keep those who did agree in the right frame of mind and prevented them from having second thoughts.
[[WMG: Valentine was using a different version of his rage inducing technology when recruiting]]
A version that makes people more suggestible and self-centred/less empathetic rather than a homocidal berserker. Obviously its not quite as effective as the berserker version (though even Valentine was surprised at how effective that version turned out to be), which was why the back up plan of imprisoning those who didn't agree was employed, but it would explain how readily he got so many disparate people to agree so ''quickly'' almost to the point of EasyEvangelism.
* If this is true it's also possible that the implanted chips helped keep those who did agree in the right frame of mind and prevented them from having second thoughts.
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* Flashback
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* The signers of the Constitution
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* The signers of the ConstitutionConstitution
[[WMG: Harry of Kingsman and Harry from ''Theatre/MammaMia'' are the same person.]]
Two characters named Harry both played by Colin Firth? Coincidence? I think not.
[[WMG: Harry of Kingsman and Harry from ''Theatre/MammaMia'' are the same person.]]
Two characters named Harry both played by Colin Firth? Coincidence? I think not.
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*** Then what do you think their angle is? [[spoiler: An open or covert takeover of the government since easily most of the chain of command in the US government went kablooey?]]
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*** Then what do you think their angle is? [[spoiler: An open or covert takeover of the government since easily most of the chain of command in the US government went kablooey?]]kablooey?]]
[[WMG: The American branch has a different codename system.]]
There ''aren't'' that many knights in Arthurian legend to include them in that naming scheme so they most likely have a different one. Possible solutions:
* The states.
* The signers of the Declaration of Independence
* The signers of the Constitution
[[WMG: The American branch has a different codename system.]]
There ''aren't'' that many knights in Arthurian legend to include them in that naming scheme so they most likely have a different one. Possible solutions:
* The states.
* The signers of the Declaration of Independence
* The signers of the Constitution
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** Exactly, some of the compromised ones (I doubt everyone was in on it) might have died. But some might have been genre savvy enough to [[spoiler:remove the implants]].
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** Exactly, some of the compromised ones (I doubt everyone was in on it) might have died. But some might have been genre savvy enough to [[spoiler:remove the implants]].implants]].
*** Then what do you think their angle is? [[spoiler: An open or covert takeover of the government since easily most of the chain of command in the US government went kablooey?]]
*** Then what do you think their angle is? [[spoiler: An open or covert takeover of the government since easily most of the chain of command in the US government went kablooey?]]
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* If they were in on it though, wouldn't they [[spoiler: have exploded when Merlin activated the implants though?]] Unless you think they were trying to play both sides of the field and had those removed.
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* If they were in on it though, wouldn't they [[spoiler: have exploded when Merlin activated the implants though?]] Unless you think they were trying to play both sides of the field and had those removed.removed.
** Exactly, some of the compromised ones (I doubt everyone was in on it) might have died. But some might have been genre savvy enough to [[spoiler:remove the implants]].
** Exactly, some of the compromised ones (I doubt everyone was in on it) might have died. But some might have been genre savvy enough to [[spoiler:remove the implants]].
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** If they were in on it though, wouldn't they [[spoiler: have exploded when Merlin activated the implants though?]] Unless you think they were trying to play both sides of the field and had those removed.
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Given the efficiency showed by the British branch, it's very unlikely that the American branch didn't notice what Valentine was up to or didn't find his factories. And, after all, [[spoiler:the British branch was corrupted too]].
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Given the efficiency showed by the British branch, it's very unlikely that the American branch didn't notice what Valentine was up to or didn't find his factories. And, after all, [[spoiler:the British branch was corrupted too]].too]].
** If they were in on it though, wouldn't they [[spoiler: have exploded when Merlin activated the implants though?]] Unless you think they were trying to play both sides of the field and had those removed.
** If they were in on it though, wouldn't they [[spoiler: have exploded when Merlin activated the implants though?]] Unless you think they were trying to play both sides of the field and had those removed.
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Given the efficiency showed by the British branch, it's very unlikely that the American branch didn't notice what Valentine was up to or didn't find his factories. And, after all, [[spoiler:the British branch was corrupted too]].
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Given the efficiency showed by the British branch, it's very unlikely that the American branch hadn't noticed what Valentine was up to or found his factories.
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*** Touché and it can go further:
* Cloning ''is'' Valentine's Plan B.
* Cloning ''is'' Valentine's Plan B.
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What better name for someone who [[spoiler: killed Arthur]]?
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What better name for someone who [[spoiler: killed Arthur]]?Arthur]]?
[[WMG: The American branch of Kingsman is corrupted.]]
Given the efficiency showed by the British branch, it's very unlikely that the American branch hadn't noticed what Valentine was up to or found his factories.
[[WMG: The American branch of Kingsman is corrupted.]]
Given the efficiency showed by the British branch, it's very unlikely that the American branch hadn't noticed what Valentine was up to or found his factories.
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I also had to.
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* [[spoiler:They won't and instead will follow the idea of Eggsy meeting Kingsman's American branch.]]]]
** That doesn't necessarily rule out the cloning.
[[WMG: Eggsy's codename is Mordred.]]
What better name for someone who [[spoiler: killed Arthur]]?
** That doesn't necessarily rule out the cloning.
[[WMG: Eggsy's codename is Mordred.]]
What better name for someone who [[spoiler: killed Arthur]]?
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Oh no I went there...
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* The sequel's a prequel.prequel.
* [[spoiler:They won't and instead will follow the idea of Eggsy meeting Kingsman's American branch.]]
* [[spoiler:They won't and instead will follow the idea of Eggsy meeting Kingsman's American branch.]]
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[[WMG: So let's start with the obvious: How they'll [[spoiler: bring Colin Firth back for the sequel.]]]]
* [[spoiler: The fangirls are right, Valentine's shot was off the mark, and he's still alive]]
* Valentine's Plan B involved him.
* Cloning
* His twin brother.
* The sequel's a prequel.
* [[spoiler: The fangirls are right, Valentine's shot was off the mark, and he's still alive]]
* Valentine's Plan B involved him.
* Cloning
* His twin brother.
* The sequel's a prequel.
