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Hey ho! [[{{Tropers/AlexSora89}} This troper]], author of the End-Of-The-World theory seen in [[{{Fridge/ptitleua124i3d}} the BBS Fridge page]], proudly presents... a spoileriffic (and therefore spoilered) brand new theory: '''[[spoiler: The BonusBoss, "Unknown", ''is'' Luxord]]'''. And ''there is very decisive proof'' - namely, the following eight facts:

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Hey ho! [[{{Tropers/AlexSora89}} This troper]], author of the End-Of-The-World theory seen in [[{{Fridge/ptitleua124i3d}} the BBS Fridge page]], proudly presents... a spoileriffic (and therefore spoilered) brand new theory: '''[[spoiler: The BonusBoss, "Unknown", '''[[spoiler:"Unknown" ''is'' Luxord]]'''. And ''there is very decisive proof'' - namely, the following eight facts:



[[WMG: The [[BonusBoss Mysterious Figure]] is Terra.]]
Well, the other two main game's main [[BonusBoss Bonus Bosses]] were also him, so this isn't that far of a stretch. Why he would attack Ven or Aqua is not clarified, but it could be revealed in a future game.

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[[WMG: The [[BonusBoss Mysterious Figure]] Figure is Terra.]]
Well, the other two main game's main [[BonusBoss Bonus Bosses]] {{superboss}}es were also him, so this isn't that far of a stretch. Why he would attack Ven or Aqua is not clarified, but it could be revealed in a future game.
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* I don't know what the rules in this universe are; but if it's at all like [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist Dante]], he's rapidly aging or decaying...or his heart is decaying. Come on, old classmates? Xehanort's old enough to be Eraqus's ''father'', let alone classmate! (And no, it's not the white hair. Xemnas looks youthful despite having white hair; Xehanort looks like he's in his 60s.)

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* I don't know what the rules in this universe are; but if it's at all like [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist2003 Dante]], he's rapidly aging or decaying...or his heart is decaying. Come on, old classmates? Xehanort's old enough to be Eraqus's ''father'', let alone classmate! (And no, it's not the white hair. Xemnas looks youthful despite having white hair; Xehanort looks like he's in his 60s.)
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** N.7: [[spoiler: Also, Luxord's [[WeaponOfChoice Weapons Of Choice]] are cards.]]

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** N.7: [[spoiler: Also, Luxord's [[WeaponOfChoice Weapons Of Choice]] Choice are cards.]]
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*** [[spoiler:Both may be true, if you think about it. Namine is NOT Kairi's Nobody - she never became a Heartless. Namine was constructed from ''Sora's'' memory - and no one said Nobodies had to follow the visual template of their originals strictly. They could modify them (Axel/Lea, Isa/Saix, Ienzo/Zexion) or change them altogether. The founding six could have retained their looks for whatever reason, but last I remember I don't recall Even having a big shield and throwing ice... or Lea being a unstable pryomanic. Also, just because a "fact" is disproven by later evidence does not make that fact ''by itself'' false... Pretty much anyone's Keyblade is an AssPull given no other evidence. Sora/Roxas is explained by Ventus/Kairi, the latter which was protected by a spell ''specifically tailored to help Kairi survive having her heart stolen!'' ([[FridgeBrilliance This was Aqua was able to survive a decade in The Dark Realm]]) Riku's is given by Terra(nort). And there is no concept of death in the game - if you view death as a total loss of existence. It may be Noruma showing off his minor in psycology (identity theory, to be exact), but maybe he is tyring to tell us that we should strive to look at both sides of an argument and [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped being narrow minded is bad]] -- exactly what Master Xehanort [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans tried to do]] and exactly [[HoistByHisOwnPetard what happened to him]].]]

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*** [[spoiler:Both may be true, if you think about it. Namine is NOT Kairi's Nobody - she never became a Heartless. Namine was constructed from ''Sora's'' memory - and no one said Nobodies had to follow the visual template of their originals strictly. They could modify them (Axel/Lea, Isa/Saix, Ienzo/Zexion) or change them altogether. The founding six could have retained their looks for whatever reason, but last I remember I don't recall Even having a big shield and throwing ice... or Lea being a unstable pryomanic. Also, just because a "fact" is disproven by later evidence does not make that fact ''by itself'' false... Pretty much anyone's Keyblade is an AssPull given no other evidence. Sora/Roxas is explained by Ventus/Kairi, the latter which was protected by a spell ''specifically tailored to help Kairi survive having her heart stolen!'' ([[FridgeBrilliance This was Aqua was able to survive a decade in The Dark Realm]]) Riku's is given by Terra(nort). And there is no concept of death in the game - if you view death as a total loss of existence. It may be Noruma showing off his minor in psycology (identity theory, to be exact), but maybe he is tyring to tell us that we should strive to look at both sides of an argument and [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped being narrow minded is bad]] bad -- exactly what Master Xehanort [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans tried to do]] and exactly [[HoistByHisOwnPetard what happened to him]].]]

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* {{Jossed}}. [[spoiler: You never fight Frollo in the game.]]

[[WMG: Hellfire will find its way into the game.]]
It is just that awesome. Plus, some [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H5zOJnxBHc fan made musics]] are already posted on Youtube!



[[WMG: Hellfire will find its way into the game.]]
It is just that awesome. Plus, some [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H5zOJnxBHc fan made musics]] are already posted on Youtube!
* {{Jossed}}
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* Technically not completely wrong. [[spoiler:Sora and Riku were involved in the creation of the X-Blade, but so were 5 other lights and 13 darknesses.]]

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Much like the plot of ''Disney's Hercules.'' But Hades's price was Cloud's and Aerith's memories of each other. The fracturing of Cloud's "light" resulted in his shadow, Sephiroth, becoming the Main/EnemyWithout, and Cloud getting sucked deeper into Hades's chain of deals.

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Much like the plot of ''Disney's Hercules.'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}}''. But Hades's price was Cloud's and Aerith's memories of each other. The fracturing of Cloud's "light" resulted in his shadow, Sephiroth, becoming the Main/EnemyWithout, and Cloud getting sucked deeper into Hades's chain of deals.



[[WMG:[[Disney/TheLionKing Scar]]'s heart is extraordinarily powerful]]

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[[WMG:[[Disney/TheLionKing [[WMG:[[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994 Scar]]'s heart is extraordinarily powerful]]
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** It's hard for This Troper to think of someone else, however it's equivalent hard to think that [[spoiler: Ansem's]] such a BadassGrandpa.

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** It's hard for This Troper to think of someone else, however it's equivalent hard to think that [[spoiler: Ansem's]] such a BadassGrandpa.badass.
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* Jossed. The [[AllThereInTheManual Ultimania]] for ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII'' explains that it's not his Heartless, it's just where Terra's heart hops to whenever it's manifested. ''Kingdom Hearts III'' appears to have actually confirmed this theory, but it was just executed horribly.

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* Jossed. The [[AllThereInTheManual Ultimania]] for ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII'' explains that it's not his Heartless, it's just where Terra's heart hops to whenever it's manifested. ''Kingdom Hearts III'' appears to have actually confirmed this theory, but it was just executed horribly.
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[[WMG: Ansem's Guardian is Terra's Heartless.]]
Think carefully of his confrontation with Riku in DDD. Riku indirectly mentions when Terra gave him the ability to wield a Keyblade to Ansem before their fight. Once the second battle is won, there's an interesting moment where the guardian reaches out to Riku before vanishing, and Riku quotes what Terra said to him. "Strength, to protect what matters." This also explains why the guardian is physically connected to Ansem (as it comes from his feet): they are a composite Heartless of both Xehanort and Terra. Before someone points out Terranort summoning the Guardian, keep in mind Terra's heart had been smothered and covered in darkness - the very definition of a Heartless, and so Xehanort was able to tap into that power.

* Jossed. The [[AllThereInTheManual Ultimania]] for ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII'' explains that it's not his Heartless, it's just where Terra's heart hops to whenever it's manifested. ''Kingdom Hearts III'' appears to have actually confirmed this theory, but it was just executed horribly.
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[[WMG: The Unversed (announced KH3 enemy) are going to be a (pro-life message / anti-abortion propaganda).]]

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[[WMG: The Unversed (announced KH3 [=KH3=] enemy) are going to be a (pro-life message / anti-abortion propaganda).]]



* Played with, but ultimately jossed. [[spoiler: The Organization members don't believe that they have hearts, so they repeat their past behaviors. In KH3D, however, it's revealed that Nobodies have at least the beginnings of hearts.]]

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* Played with, but ultimately jossed. [[spoiler: The Organization members don't believe that they have hearts, so they repeat their past behaviors. In KH3D, [=KH3D=], however, it's revealed that Nobodies have at least the beginnings of hearts.]]
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* Sora WAS a Heartless for all of Com and the end of [[VideoGame/KingdomHearts KHI]], since he was without his body (Roxas).

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* Sora WAS a Heartless for all of Com and the end of [[VideoGame/KingdomHearts [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsI KHI]], since he was without his body (Roxas).
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!!This is a page for wild mass guesses from the series ''KingdomHearts'' which have been {{Jossed}} by the games or WordOfGod. If a WMG on one of the [[WMG/KingdomHeartsOpenOne open]] [[WMG/KingdomHeartsOpenTwo pages]] is Jossed, please move it here.

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!!This is a page for wild mass guesses from the series ''KingdomHearts'' ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' which have been {{Jossed}} by the games or WordOfGod. If a WMG on one of the [[WMG/KingdomHeartsOpenOne open]] [[WMG/KingdomHeartsOpenTwo pages]] is Jossed, please move it here.



* Sora WAS a Heartless for all of Com and the end of [[VideoGame.KingdomHearts KH1]], since he was without his body (Roxas).

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* Sora WAS a Heartless for all of Com and the end of [[VideoGame.KingdomHearts KH1]], [[VideoGame/KingdomHearts KHI]], since he was without his body (Roxas).



* It's pretty well-established that the 3D trailer is MindScrew incarnate. But there are a few hints as to what it's actually about. Firstly, what's with all the [[ItsRainingMen Soras falling down out of the sky?]] That makes no sense at all, especially if we're to take [[WordOfGod Tetsuya Nomura's statement]] about this taking place right after ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' (or was it after Coded?) at face value...because Sora and Riku aren't just in their [=KH1=] attire, they're their KingdomHearts SELVES. And Traverse Town--what? Wasn't that destroyed? But if you put all these bizzare elements, something shines through.

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* It's pretty well-established that the 3D trailer is MindScrew incarnate. But there are a few hints as to what it's actually about. Firstly, what's with all the [[ItsRainingMen Soras falling down out of the sky?]] That makes no sense at all, especially if we're to take [[WordOfGod Tetsuya Nomura's statement]] about this taking place right after ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' (or was it after Coded?) at face value...because Sora and Riku aren't just in their [=KH1=] attire, they're their KingdomHearts ''Kingdom Hearts'' SELVES. And Traverse Town--what? Wasn't that destroyed? But if you put all these bizzare elements, something shines through.
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There are similarities between the songs. Plus, both are generally accepted to be CrowningMusicOfAwesome.

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There are similarities between the songs. Plus, both are generally accepted to be CrowningMusicOfAwesome.SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic.
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[[WMG: The [[DonaldDuck Donald]] and {{Goofy}} from Chain of Memories were not the real Donald and Goofy]]

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[[WMG: The [[DonaldDuck [[WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck Donald]] and {{Goofy}} WesternAnimation/{{Goofy}} from Chain of Memories were not the real Donald and Goofy]]
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[[WMG: The original names of the other, unnamed Organization members are as follows:]]

This is following the rule that all Organization members' names are their real names amalgamized with the letter "X" interposed in them.

Marluxia: Lumaria
** Lumaria is supportable by the existence of the Lumaria Ashe Roundleaf Hawthorne Tree, which fits with Marly's plant theme.
* Or Rauliam. Or Auralim.
* Jossed. Revealed in [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsX Kingdom Hearts Union X]], [[spoiler: It's Lauriam]]

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