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No, [[MemeticMutation not THAT kind of "memetic"]] (although he does have that too); he has the [[MindVirus OTHER]] [[BrownNote kind]]. Basically, while it doesn't work on people outside of the comic ([[ParanoiaFuel yet]]) the idea is that the more someone knows about him, the more likely he is to kill them. This is why he targeted Andrew and why Grandma!Jade decided to learn more about him; she plotted to wait until the time was right and then allow him to come to her once the Condesce came to confront her (in a sort of BatmanGambit TakingYouWithMe combo platter). The Condesce decided to nip the whole thing in the bud by killing her, but she left Jake. Jake has extensive knowledge of LE and shortly afterward gets targeted by Caliborn. Coincidence?

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No, [[MemeticMutation not THAT kind of "memetic"]] (although (well, okay, he does ''does'' have that too); he has the [[MindVirus OTHER]] [[BrownNote kind]]. Basically, while it doesn't work on people outside of the comic ([[ParanoiaFuel yet]]) the idea is that the more someone knows about him, the more likely he is to kill them. This is why he targeted Andrew and why Grandma!Jade decided to learn more about him; she plotted to wait until the time was right and then allow him to come to her once the Condesce came to confront her (in a sort of BatmanGambit TakingYouWithMe combo platter). The Condesce decided to nip the whole thing in the bud by killing her, but she left Jake. Jake has extensive knowledge of LE and shortly afterward gets targeted by Caliborn. Coincidence?
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[[WMG: Lord English has a memetic hazard effect.]]
No, [[MemeticMutation not THAT kind of "memetic"]] (although he does have that too); he has the [[MindVirus OTHER]] [[BrownNote kind]]. Basically, while it doesn't work on people outside of the comic ([[ParanoiaFuel yet]]) the idea is that the more someone knows about him, the more likely he is to kill them. This is why he targeted Andrew and why Grandma!Jade decided to learn more about him; she plotted to wait until the time was right and then allow him to come to her once the Condesce came to confront her (in a sort of BatmanGambit TakingYouWithMe combo platter). The Condesce decided to nip the whole thing in the bud by killing her, but she left Jake. Jake has extensive knowledge of LE and shortly afterward gets targeted by Caliborn. Coincidence?
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[[WMG: GCAT will meet his end when the Condecse [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no longer needs him]].]]
She currently has Jade under her control, which means GCAT isn't really needed at this point. HIC will probably either make Jade kill him or mind control him into killing himself.
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So the Condecse fought the Handmaid/Demoness and won. However, since her opponent was of Rust Blood she basicly completely disreguarded it. Thus, Lord English personally appeared (Or was already there) and gave her the same offer. They fought. [[CurbStompBattle The Condecse lost.]] [[NoKillLikeOverkill Severely.]] And so Lord English gave her a final offer. Serve underneath him and be [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness granted death at the end of her service,]] or deny the offer and suffer a FateWorseThanDeath. Seeing as she's basicly scared [[PrecisionFStrike shitless]] of Lord English by this point, she took the offer willingly.

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So the Condecse Condesce fought the Handmaid/Demoness and won. However, since her opponent was of Rust Blood she basicly basically completely disreguarded disregarded it. Thus, Lord English personally appeared (Or was already there) and gave her the same offer. They fought. [[CurbStompBattle The Condecse Condesce lost.]] [[NoKillLikeOverkill Severely.]] And so Lord English gave her a final offer. Serve underneath him and be [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness granted death at the end of her service,]] or deny the offer and suffer a FateWorseThanDeath. Seeing as she's basicly basically scared [[PrecisionFStrike shitless]] of Lord English by this point, she took the offer willingly.

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*Core of the theory confirmed. The link to cherub courtship is not quite as predicted.




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*Knowing Calliope's name is worthless because she is well and truly dead.




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***Not true by definition, but it appears Caliborn has appropriated Cal as his soul container in a sense.




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*Seemingly jossed, as the death of her dream self was the means of killing her real self.




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**Caliborn has green skin as well.





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***And even that ray of light has been Jossed.




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*Confirmed. Spades Slick revives them using Die's doll.




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*Seemingly Jossed, sorta; "frog men" is a name Caliborn comes up for them, but only one.




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*It's been shown that Caliborn is at least [[ScaledUp capable of turning into a snake]].




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***Jossed. The game gave them to him.


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** It also recalls Caliban from TheTempest a little - relevant to his "monstrousness" aspect

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** It also recalls Caliban from TheTempest Theatre/TheTempest a little - relevant to his "monstrousness" aspect
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* It follows that his defeat by LE-level Calliope will result in them mating; after he loses, he will then lay the egg that [[StableTimeLoop eventually hatches into him and Calliope]], thereby fulfilling the paradox-ancestry that is required of a SBURB player.

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* The Green Moon will be inhabited by leprechauns, and Caliborn will have to conquer it in a way so that he does not alienate the leprechaun teammates he has unlocked (The Felt).
To do this, Caliborn will havbe to make use of his wicked cunning and incredible intelligence, the developement of which was cut short due to him predominating early, as well as his learning disability.
Therefore, conquering the Green Moon will be nearly impossible, as it will require Caliborn to make use of traits he hasn't developed. Dead Session, everybody!
* The king/leader of the Leprechauns will be Caliborn's final boss. The fight will be nearly impossible to win without the help of the Felt, thereby necessitating Caliborn to keep them on his side while he conquers the planet.
The king of the leprechauns will wear the Cairo Overcoat. What better person to wear a garment literally made of the fabric of time than the leader of a species of time-affiliated tricksters?
* Upon defeating the king, Caliborn will not only gain the Cairo Overcoat, but also complete dominance over the leprechaun planet.
After all, a dead session is still a fairly regular SBURB session. It's one player and designed to be almost impossible, but that's just it. It's DESIGNED. As in purposefully. So there must be some kind of reward.
And what better punishment for the player than downgrading their rule of a universe to rule of a planet?

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* The Green Moon will be inhabited by leprechauns, and Caliborn will have to conquer it in a way so that he does not alienate the leprechaun teammates he has unlocked (The Felt). \n To do this, Caliborn will havbe to make use of his wicked cunning and incredible intelligence, the developement of which was cut short due to him predominating early, as well as his learning disability.
disability. Therefore, conquering the Green Moon will be nearly impossible, as it will require Caliborn to make use of traits he hasn't developed. Dead Session, everybody!
* The king/leader of the Leprechauns will be Caliborn's final boss. The fight will be nearly impossible to win without the help of the Felt, thereby necessitating Caliborn to keep them on his side while he conquers the planet.
planet. The king of the leprechauns will wear the Cairo Overcoat. What better person to wear a garment literally made of the fabric of time than the leader of a species of time-affiliated tricksters?
* Upon defeating the king, Caliborn will not only gain the Cairo Overcoat, but also complete dominance over the leprechaun planet. \n After all, a dead session is still a fairly regular SBURB session. It's one player and designed to be almost impossible, but that's just it. It's DESIGNED. As in purposefully. So there must be some kind of reward. \n And what better punishment for the player than downgrading their rule of a universe to rule of a planet?
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[[WMG:Caliborn's SBURB Endgame Theory]]
*After sinking the 8th planet, Earth will come to life as Caliborn's true land.
*Caliborn will probably receive either Snowman's hat or Snowman's heart for sinking the 8th planet, since he obviously doesn't get a leprechaun.
*After defeating Yaldabaoth in his true land, the Black Hole will explode, resulting in the "second 8R8K"
*From inside the black hole, Caliborn's final planet will appear: the Green Moon.
*The Green Moon will be inhabited by leprechauns, and Caliborn will have to conquer it in a way so that he does not alienate the leprechaun teammates he has unlocked (The Felt).
To do this, Caliborn will havbe to make use of his wicked cunning and incredible intelligence, the developement of which was cut short due to him predominating early, as well as his learning disability.
Therefore, conquering the Green Moon will be nearly impossible, as it will require Caliborn to make use of traits he hasn't developed. Dead Session, everybody!
*The king/leader of the Leprechauns will be Caliborn's final boss. The fight will be nearly impossible to win without the help of the Felt, thereby necessitating Caliborn to keep them on his side while he conquers the planet.
The king of the leprechauns will wear the Cairo Overcoat. What better person to wear a garment literally made of the fabric of time than the leader of a species of time-affiliated tricksters?
*Upon defeating the king, Caliborn will not only gain the Cairo Overcoat, but also complete dominance over the leprechaun planet.
After all, a dead session is still a fairly regular SBURB session. It's one player and designed to be almost impossible, but that's just it. It's DESIGNED. As in purposefully. So there must be some kind of reward.
And what better punishment for the player than downgrading their rule of a universe to rule of a planet?

[[WMG: Caliborn metamorphoses into Lord English by sealing himself inside Doc Scratch until the universe ends.]]
You know, like a butterfly.
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[[WMG:At some point in the final battle, Calliope will use an underhanded tactic similar to Caliborn's chess trickery.]]
And it will result in Calliope and Caliborn's trickster gambit maxing out in Calliope's favor. Maybe even with a reaction shot of Lord English's incredibly shocked face.
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* If true, the Cairo Overcoat could be the God Tier outfit for a Lord of Time.
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To represent Callie\'s title.


[[WMG: When/if Calliope turns out to be a "[[GoodCounterpart Lady]] [[BigGood English]]" of sorts, she will introduce herself to LE with something along the lines of "Dear brother, how did you expect to get rid of me '''''[[IronicEcho WHEN I'M ALREADY HERE!?]]'''''"]]

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[[WMG: When/if Calliope turns out to be a "[[GoodCounterpart Lady]] Muse]] [[BigGood English]]" of sorts, she will introduce herself to LE with something along the lines of "Dear brother, how did you expect to get rid of me '''''[[IronicEcho WHEN I'M ALREADY HERE!?]]'''''"]]
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[[WMG: Caliborn/Lord English's 'Unconditional Immortality' is actually Cherub Mating Immortality]]
Aranea said that Yaldabaoth shouldn't have the power to grant unconditional immortality like that - what if his so-called unconditional immortality was actually just unlocking the invulnerability-to-all-but-Cherub-counterpart normally found in Cherub Mating and managing to use it without [[ScaledUp scaling up]]? This would also explain the purpose of the worldbuilding - its a ChekhovsGun to explain how a LE-level Calliope will be able to defeat him despite his invulnerability.
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* Bonus points: DD's PornStash is called ''Grey Ladies'' and his favorite candy is Swedish Fish.
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[[WMG: "Eternity's Shylock" foreshadows LE's eventual end.]]
He will, like the Shylock of Shakespeare, be brought down by the rules-lawyering of a crossdressing girl. (In this case, some version of Calliope.)
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[[B2 DD is either [[ShipTease flushed]] or [[FoeYay caliginous]] for Her Imperial Condescension.]]

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[[B2 [[WMG: B2 DD is either [[ShipTease flushed]] or [[FoeYay caliginous]] for Her Imperial Condescension.]]
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[[B2 DD is either [[ShipTease flushed]] or [[FoeYay caliginous]] for Her Imperial Condescension.]]
In ''DD: Ascend'' and ''DD: Ascend More Casually'', The Condesce (and Meenah, briefly, but she's essentially the same thing) appears almost every time we hear the lyrics "Bring your wife and trouble it will never trouble you/Make her a member of the Midnight Crew". The keyword here is WIFE. The only exceptions include when Ms. Paint appears (being ship teased with Andrew and Slick) and when Andrew proposes to Vriska. Perhaps DD is caliginous for HIC, mirroring the fact that Jack was caliginous for the Black Queen.
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* Jossed: Caliborn and Calliope's jujus are both lollipops.




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* Jossed.
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[[WMG: When/if Calliope turns out to be a "[[GoodCounterpart Lady]] [[BigGood English]]" of sorts, she will introduce herself to LE with something along the lines of "Dear brother, how did you expect to get rid of me '''''[[IronicEcho WHEN I'M ALREADY HERE!?]]''''']]

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[[WMG: When/if Calliope turns out to be a "[[GoodCounterpart Lady]] [[BigGood English]]" of sorts, she will introduce herself to LE with something along the lines of "Dear brother, how did you expect to get rid of me '''''[[IronicEcho WHEN I'M ALREADY HERE!?]]''''']]HERE!?]]'''''"]]
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[[WMG: When/if Calliope turns out to be a "[[GoodCounterpart Lady]] [[BigGood English]]" of sorts, she will introduce herself to LE with something along the lines of "Dear brother, how did you expect to get rid of me '''''[[IronicEcho WHEN I'M ALREADY HERE!?]]''''']]
And cue Lord English having the single most epic OhCrap moment in the entire comic once he realizes that he has finally met his match.
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[[WMG: The Felt were bred through ectobiology]]
More specifically, they're the combined genes of carapacians (or possibly doc scratch) and cherubs.
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[[WMG: Calliope is, and has always been, Serenity]]

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[[WMG: Calliope Serenity is, and has always been, Serenity]]Calliope]]
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[[WMG: Calliope is, and has always been, Serenity]]
As suggested by her recent communication with Roxy. We don't actually know where Serenity came from (prior to her being found preserved in amber by WV). She has been present throughout Homestuck, in a vast variety of places, *passively* and unobtrusively influencing events in a form that LE was unlikely to notice.
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*** And, since there is no evidence of anyone else in the same medium as him, it's likely he is in a Dead Session, much like Caliborn.
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* fedoraFreak moved Earth outside of the dying Bilious Slick and into the Cherub universe. We know it got there somehow, and it probably takes a God-Tiered Hero of Space to do it. Are there any other God-Tiers unaccounted for?
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[[WMG: Caliborn is not Lord English. The dominant Calliope from a doom timeline is.]]
A bit farfetched, but we are in [[TrollingCreator Hussie territory]] after all. The hints and claims that Caliborn's is Lord English are in fact red-hearings as implied by Caliborn himself. The reason Lord English is trying to destroy alpha!Calliope is not, as she herself believes, become s/he is an older Caliborn, but rather because s/he hopes that removing the alpha!Calliope will save him/her from his/her doomed status.

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[[WMG: Caliborn is not Lord English. The dominant Calliope from a doom doomed timeline is.]]
A bit farfetched, but we are in [[TrollingCreator Hussie territory]] after all. The hints and claims that Caliborn's is Lord English are in fact red-hearings as implied by Caliborn himself. The reason Lord English is trying to destroy alpha!Calliope is not, as she herself believes, become s/he is an older Caliborn, but rather because s/he hopes that removing the alpha!Calliope will allow him/her to take her place and save him/her from his/her doomed status.

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* Confirmed, somewhat. She is now able to make herself appear as her trollsona.




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* Confirmed, somewhat. She is now able to make herself appear as her trollsona.


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A bit farfetched, but we are in [[TrollingCreator Hussie territory]] after all. The hints and claims that Caliborn's is Lord English are in fact red-hearings as implied by Caliborn himself. The reason Lord English is trying to destroy alpha!Calliope is not, as she herself believes, become s/he is an older Caliborn, but rather because s/he hopes that removing the alpha!Calliope will save him/her from his/her doomed status.
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[[WMG: Diamonds Droog wanted to make Aradia-bot into a TykeBomb.]]
If that ''was'' genuine praise that he gave her, take note of ''when'' it actually happens; after she just ''brutally beat someone to death'' he says "Atta girl". It's also explicitly stated that he enjoyed the "Payback Scenarios". Given [[TheChessmaster the type of person Droog is]], it would not surprise me if it turned out that he had some kind of plot for her to be used as some sort of weapon, possibly against the Felt.
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* If he is indeed Caliborn, then this is supported even further:
** He may be the last of his kind, and if so, it is because he effectively killed the only other surviving member of his race.

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* If he Since it is indeed Caliborn, confirmed (or as confirmed as anything Homestuck related can be) that Caliborn is Lord English, then this theory is supported even further:
** He may be the last of his kind, and if so, it is because he effectively killed the only other surviving member of his race.



** His aspect is Time, and his class (if English and Caliborn are one and the same) is implied to be Lord. Thus, his title could be "Lord of Time."

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** His aspect is Time, and his class (if English and Caliborn are one and the same) is implied to be called Lord. Thus, his title could would be "Lord of Time."
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* 1. Yes, he is. Since he was created with [[BigFriendlyDog Halley's]] DNA he was much more mellow than the good doctor, who was created with [[DemonicDummy Lil' Cal]]. Support against this is the fact that it's implied tha [=GCat=] was made with Jaspers' DNA and does ''not'' resemble him in personality.
* 2 Bec is not an exception.

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* 1. Yes, he is. Since he was created with [[BigFriendlyDog Halley's]] DNA he was much more mellow than the good doctor, who was created with [[DemonicDummy Lil' Cal]]. Support Evidence against this is the fact that it's implied tha (READ: ''implied'') that [=GCat=] was made with Jaspers' DNA and does ''not'' (as far as we know) resemble him in personality.
* 2 2. No, Bec is not an exception.
exception. He ''was'' evil/malevolent [[HeelFaceTurn before meeting]] [[DefeatMeansFriendship Grandpa Harley]] and [[LoveRedeems Jade]]. Evidence against this is the fact that Bec's personality, from what we've seen, is that of a normal dog. This could be the result of his possible HeelFaceTurn, though.

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