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After finding out Noizi Ito had connections in creating the designs of both this series and LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana I cannot help but think they are connected beyond that. Soon Haruhi will realize that she wants to find another being beyond the aliens, time travelers, espers, and sliders...

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After finding out Noizi Ito had connections in creating the designs of both this series and LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana ''Literature/ShakuganNoShana'', I cannot help but think they are connected beyond that. Soon Haruhi will realize that she wants to find another being beyond the aliens, time travelers, espers, and sliders...
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She's a Goddess from Greek or Roman mythology. Possibly she's Thalia, one of the Nine Muses and the Goddess of Comedy. Thalia is also the name of the Goddess of Celebrations and rich, luxurious banquets. It would somewhat explain her unnatural hair (as nobody else has dark green or ankle-length RapunzelHair) and why she's TheHyena if she's the Goddess of Comedy.

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She's a Goddess from Greek or Roman mythology. Possibly she's Thalia, one of the Nine Muses and the Goddess of Comedy. Thalia is also the name of the Goddess of Celebrations and rich, luxurious banquets. It would somewhat explain her unnatural hair (as nobody else has dark green or ankle-length RapunzelHair) hair) and why she's TheHyena if she's the Goddess of Comedy.
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** She's the only character other than the Humanoid Interfaces to have an [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair unnatural]] hair color. So...

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** She's the only character other than the Humanoid Interfaces to have an [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair unnatural]] unnatural hair color. So...
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* For that matter, how else would she know that Asahina and Nagato were anything other than normal students, unless she were already "in the loop"?

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* For that matter, how else would she know that Asahina and Nagato were anything other than normal students, unless she were already "in the loop"?loop"?

[[WMG: Tsuruya was didn't exist before Haruhi reset the Universe in episode 6.]]
That's why she chronologically does not appear till episode 7.
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After finding out Noizi Ito had connections in creating the designs of both this series and ShakuganNoShana I cannot help but think they are connected beyond that. Soon Haruhi will realize that she wants to find another being beyond the aliens, time travelers, espers, and sliders...

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After finding out Noizi Ito had connections in creating the designs of both this series and ShakuganNoShana LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana I cannot help but think they are connected beyond that. Soon Haruhi will realize that she wants to find another being beyond the aliens, time travelers, espers, and sliders...
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He's "a jolly, happy soul", and so is Tsuruya. She's also got such a big (oddly empty) house, maybe the elves that make the toys live there and cleared out the house before Tsuruya came back with the Brigade.

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He's "a jolly, happy soul", and so is Tsuruya. She's also got such a big (oddly empty) house, maybe the elves that make the toys live there and cleared out the house before Tsuruya came back with the Brigade.Brigade.

[[WMG: Tsuruya is a fellow ESPer.]]
She's part of Itsuki's Organization, possibly even his second-in-command.
* Itsuki himself mentions that the Tsuruya Clan supports the Organization financially. Why would they do that unless Tsuruya's parents knew that their daughter was also part of the Organization?
* Why would a daughter of such a powerful family go to such a lousy school, unless she either was under orders from the Organization, or volunteered to go, in order to keep an eye on Haruhi?
** It's stated explicitly that there are multiple TFEI Interfaces watching Haruhi; why wouldn't the Organization have additional espers watching her as well? (This would also explain why Itsuki transfers to North High--Tsuruya needed him to come and interact directly with Haruhi so that her cover wouldn't be blown...)
* For that matter, how else would she know that Asahina and Nagato were anything other than normal students, unless she were already "in the loop"?
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everyone calls her Tsuruya-san no matter how close to her they are except Haruhi who calls her Tsuru-chan. it seems unlikely that Tsuruya would expect anyone to use her surname and it seems a bit odd to be close enough to call someone something as casual as Tsuru-chan but be unwilling to use someone's given name. having an odd name like that would suit an odd person like Tsuruya.

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everyone Everyone calls her Tsuruya-san no matter how close to her they are except Haruhi who calls her Tsuru-chan. it It seems unlikely that Tsuruya would expect anyone to use her surname and it seems a bit odd to be close enough to call someone something as casual as Tsuru-chan but be unwilling to use someone's given name. having Having an odd name like that would suit an odd person like Tsuruya.Tsuruya.



After finding out Noizi Ito had connections in creating the designs of both this series and ShakuganNoShana I cannot help but think they are connected beyond that. Soon Haruhi will realize that she wants to find another being beyond the aliens, time travelers, espers, and sliders...

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After finding out Noizi Ito had connections in creating the designs of both this series and ShakuganNoShana I cannot help but think they are connected beyond that. Soon Haruhi will realize that she wants to find another being beyond the aliens, time travelers, espers, and sliders...sliders...

[[WMG: Tsuruya is a Goddess but not the "God" Haruhi is theorised to be.]]
She's a Goddess from Greek or Roman mythology. Possibly she's Thalia, one of the Nine Muses and the Goddess of Comedy. Thalia is also the name of the Goddess of Celebrations and rich, luxurious banquets. It would somewhat explain her unnatural hair (as nobody else has dark green or ankle-length RapunzelHair) and why she's TheHyena if she's the Goddess of Comedy.

[[WMG: Tsuruya is Santa's daughter.]]
He's "a jolly, happy soul", and so is Tsuruya. She's also got such a big (oddly empty) house, maybe the elves that make the toys live there and cleared out the house before Tsuruya came back with the Brigade.
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** Better yet, she's a [[VisualNovel/{{HigurashiWhenTheyCry}} Sonozaki.]] It makes sense. We don't know her last name. She has green hair. If either Shion or Mion gave birth at 19, the timelines would match up.

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** Better yet, she's a [[VisualNovel/{{HigurashiWhenTheyCry}} Sonozaki.]] It makes sense. We don't know her last name. She's rich, and we have no idea where the money comes from. She has green hair. If either Shion or Mion gave birth at 19, the timelines would match up.
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** Better yet, she's a [[VisualNovel/{{HigurashiWhenTheyCry}} Sonozaki.]] It makes sense. We don't know her last name. She has green hair. If either Shion or Mion gave birth at 19, the timelines would match up.

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As Haruhi comes closer to coming to terms with herself and her power, Tsuruya starts having a more explicit role, providing the treasure map and the cabin for the Sonwy Mountain Syndrome so they can have fun and becoming closer to all the gang, but always staying in the sidelines and refraining to question anything, since tht's not the job Haruhi gave her.

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As Haruhi comes closer to coming to terms with herself and her power, Tsuruya starts having a more explicit role, providing the treasure map and the cabin for the Sonwy Snowy Mountain Syndrome so they can have fun and becoming closer to all the gang, but always staying in the sidelines and refraining to question anything, since tht's not the job Haruhi gave her.



everyone calls her Tsuruya-san no matter how close to her they are except Haruhi who calls her Tsuru-chan. it seems unlikely that Tsuruya would expect anyone to use her surname and it seems a bit odd to be close enough to call someone something as casual as Tsuru-chan but be unwilling to use someone's given name. having an odd name like that would suit an odd person like Tsuruya.

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everyone calls her Tsuruya-san no matter how close to her they are except Haruhi who calls her Tsuru-chan. it seems unlikely that Tsuruya would expect anyone to use her surname and it seems a bit odd to be close enough to call someone something as casual as Tsuru-chan but be unwilling to use someone's given name. having an odd name like that would suit an odd person like Tsuruya.Tsuruya.
[[WMG:Tsuruya is a Flame Haze.]]
After finding out Noizi Ito had connections in creating the designs of both this series and ShakuganNoShana I cannot help but think they are connected beyond that. Soon Haruhi will realize that she wants to find another being beyond the aliens, time travelers, espers, and sliders...
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[[WMG Tsuruya's full name is Tsuruya Tsuruya]]

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Tsuruya claims to be a normal human, she is implied to have adventures of her own and Haruhi wanted to be someone like that but can't since she is God so she would probably have given that role to at least one person (Kyon doesn't count he only meets supernatural beings directly involved with Haruhi) and she would be most likely to give that role to someone with a similar personality. Haruhi and the people watching her are only some of the supernatural beings Tsuruya knows and she knows what the rest are. if Haruhi ever decides to let herself learn about the supernatural the first thing that will happen is that she will discover that Tsuruya has some very interesting friends.

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Tsuruya claims to be a normal human, she is implied to have adventures of her own and Haruhi wanted to be someone like that but can't since she is God so she would probably have given that role to at least one person (Kyon doesn't count he only meets supernatural beings directly involved with Haruhi) and she would be most likely to give that role to someone with a similar personality. Haruhi and the people watching her are only some of the supernatural beings Tsuruya knows and she knows what the rest are. if Haruhi ever decides to let herself learn about the supernatural the first thing that will happen is that she will discover that Tsuruya has some very interesting friends.friends.
[[WMG Tsuruya's full name is Tsuruya Tsuruya]]
everyone calls her Tsuruya-san no matter how close to her they are except Haruhi who calls her Tsuru-chan. it seems unlikely that Tsuruya would expect anyone to use her surname and it seems a bit odd to be close enough to call someone something as casual as Tsuru-chan but be unwilling to use someone's given name. having an odd name like that would suit an odd person like Tsuruya.
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[[WMG: Tsuruya is a mostly normal human that naturally attracts and is drawn to supernatural entities]]
Tsuruya claims to be a normal human, she is implied to have adventures of her own and Haruhi wanted to be someone like that but can't since she is God so she would probably have given that role to at least one person (Kyon doesn't count he only meets supernatural beings directly involved with Haruhi) and she would be most likely to give that role to someone with a similar personality. Haruhi and the people watching her are only some of the supernatural beings Tsuruya knows and she knows what the rest are. if Haruhi ever decides to let herself learn about the supernatural the first thing that will happen is that she will discover that Tsuruya has some very interesting friends.
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* The "Itsuki guesses she is off having her own adventures" evidence in the Writer God section below is not something uniquely stated in the series. Kyon hypothesized something similar about another character in the same volume that Tsuruya first showed up in. Yuki.
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As Haruhi comes closer to coming to terms with herself and her power, Tsuruya starts having a more explicit role, providing the treasure map and the cabin for the Sonwy Mountain Syndrome so they can have fun and becoming closer to all the gang, but always staying in the sidelines and refraining to question anything, since tht's not the job Haruhi gave her.

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As Haruhi comes closer to coming to terms with herself and her power, Tsuruya starts having a more explicit role, providing the treasure map and the cabin for the Sonwy Mountain Syndrome so they can have fun and becoming closer to all the gang, but always staying in the sidelines and refraining to question anything, since tht's not the job Haruhi gave her.her.

[[WMG:Tsuruya and her family are youkai.]]

Her comment on video cameras and her unusual strength just as easily lend themselves to youkai longevity and power. Furthermore, it would explain her simultaneous delight and disinterest in things such as espers, aliens, and time-travellers. If she's been a teenager for dozens or hundreds of years, of course she'll be glad of the novelty they provide. But since she herself is a fairy-tale creature, she's hardly desperate to be included in the paranormal world.
* Her family name is spelled with the character 'tsuru' meaning crane; it's possible that's her family's type. This is further supported by her own 'bird-brained' behavior.
* If she does come from a clan of youkai, that meshes quite well with the image of the yakuza Tsuruya family and the business magnate Tsuruya family.
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** That would mean both backups tried to kill a brigade member.

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** That would mean both backups tried to kill a brigade member.



** Both backups rebelled. Even if Tsuruya is the backup, she could be rebelling by helping the SOS brigade.

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** Both backups rebelled. Even if Tsuruya is the backup, she could be rebelling by helping the SOS brigade.



** It's also possible Yuki knows this and just hasn't said anything as Tsuruya hasn't been dangerous. And Yuki never volunteers information without a reason.

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** It's also possible Yuki knows this and just hasn't said anything as Tsuruya hasn't been dangerous. And Yuki never volunteers information without a reason.



** Now I have this mental image of Tsuruya as [[{{Warhammer40000}} Alpharius]]

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** Now I have this mental image of Tsuruya as [[{{Warhammer40000}} [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Alpharius]]



Tsuruya is working for the Defence Intelligence Office DIO [Jouhou Honbu] or the National Police Agency [NPA - Keisatsuchi] in a sort of "X-Files" role. The Japanese special intelligence services long ago detected anomalies occurring at North High and around Haruhi Suzumiya and inserted Tsuruya as an agent to find out what is going on. As there is nothing really "weird" about Tsuruya, other than being a government agent, Haruhi did not subconsciously drag her into the SOS Brigade - although Haruhi tolerates her as an "associate member."

In this guise, Tsuruya is probably older than a High School student but just has a younger appearance. This makes a lot more sense than her being so fabulously wealthy. She is supposed to be so wealthy that her family owns numerous houses and even numerous ski resorts. There is no way that an heiress with such a background is going to be attending a broken down prefectural school! An heiress of this level would be in Eaton or something.

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Tsuruya is working for the Defence Intelligence Office DIO [Jouhou Honbu] or the National Police Agency [NPA - Keisatsuchi] in a sort of "X-Files" role. The Japanese special intelligence services long ago detected anomalies occurring at North High and around Haruhi Suzumiya and inserted Tsuruya as an agent to find out what is going on. As there is nothing really "weird" about Tsuruya, other than being a government agent, Haruhi did not subconsciously drag her into the SOS Brigade - although Haruhi tolerates her as an "associate member."

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In this guise, Tsuruya is probably older than a High School student but just has a younger appearance. This makes a lot more sense than her being so fabulously wealthy. She is supposed to be so wealthy that her family owns numerous houses and even numerous ski resorts. There is no way that an heiress with such a background is going to be attending a broken down prefectural school! An heiress of this level would be in Eaton or something.
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* Considering how alien the Sky Canopy Domain is, it's not clear Yuki would automatically detect her as an interface. Especially if she didn't want to be found and could pass as human(Suo is obviously odd).

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* ** Considering how alien the Sky Canopy Domain is, it's not clear Yuki would automatically detect her as an interface. Especially if she didn't want to be found and could pass as human(Suo is obviously odd).


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** She's the only character other than the Humanoid Interfaces to have an [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair unnatural]] hair color. So...
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** It's also possible Nagato knows this and just hasn't said anything as Tsuruya hasn't been dangerous.

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** It's also possible Nagato Yuki knows this and just hasn't said anything as Tsuruya hasn't been dangerous. And Yuki never volunteers information without a reason.
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[[WMG:Tsuruya is a Humanoid Interface of the Sky Canopy Domain]]
She's the anti-SOS version of Ryoko Asakura. She's obviously from a different(and nicer) faction that Kuyo Suo however. There are some parallels between the pairs of interfaces.
* Both pairs have a GenkiGirl (Asakura/Tsuruya) and a QuietOne (Nagato/ Kuyo Suo)
* If you believe (fairly well supported at this point) [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/HaruhiSuzumiyaYukiNagatoWMG WMG]] that Asakura was originally the primary interface than Tsuruya could be the primary, with Kuyo Suo as the backup.
** That would mean both backups tried to kill a brigade member.
** Both backups seems to different approaches from the primary also
** Both backups rebelled. Even if Tsuruya is the backup, she could be rebelling by helping the SOS brigade.
* Considering how alien the Sky Canopy Domain is, it's not clear Yuki would automatically detect her as an interface. Especially if she didn't want to be found and could pass as human(Suo is obviously odd).
** It's also possible Nagato knows this and just hasn't said anything as Tsuruya hasn't been dangerous.
* Probably the best evidence is that Tsuruya neatly avoid the incident at Snow Mountain. Almost like she knew it was coming

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In the same way that Yasumi was created to save the brigade from that particular crisis, Tsuruya in there for a more permanent kind of support. It has been stated that the Tsuruya family is strongly linked to Koizumi's Organization, wich in turn provide for a lot of the Brigade's adventures. She protects and gives moral support to Mikuru, so Haruhi doesn't feel guilty about abusing her. She blatantly flirts with Kyon so as to express Haruhi's feelings, but never seriously because Heruhi wants him for herself. Koizumi mentions that Tsuruya may be having her own adventures offstage, wich would satisfy Haruhi's fancy for great adventure without cutting into the brigade's time. The similitude between them is explicitly and frecuently metioned. She supports all that Haruhi does, but stays out of the limelight because Haruhi has given her a secondary role (She didn't even want Yasumi to join, but she was forced to allow her in because it was part of the mission to save her friends). Tsuruya is also a filthy rich genius that could go to the best schools in the world and yet attends a crappy prefecture high, Kunikida stated that he only went to north High to meet Tsurya and he was the only friend of Kyon's in high school before the Brigade, thetefore Haruhi broght him to keep Kyon company. As Haruhi comes closer to coming to terms with herself, Tsuruya starts having a mor explicit role, providing the treasure map and the cabin fot the Sonwy Mountain syndrome so they can have fun and becoming closer to all the gang, but always staying in the sidelines and refaining to question anything, since tht's not the job Haruhi gave her.

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In the same way that Yasumi was created to save the brigade from that particular crisis, Tsuruya in there for a more permanent kind of support. support.
It has been stated that the Tsuruya family is strongly linked to Koizumi's Organization, wich in turn provide for a lot of the Brigade's adventures. adventures.
She protects and gives moral support to Mikuru, so Haruhi doesn't feel guilty about abusing her. her.
She blatantly flirts with Kyon so as to express Haruhi's feelings, but never seriously because Heruhi wants him for herself. herself.
Koizumi mentions that Tsuruya may be having her own adventures offstage, wich would satisfy Haruhi's fancy for great adventure without cutting into the brigade's time.time.
The similitude between them is explicitly and frecuently metioned. She supports all that Haruhi does, but stays out of the limelight because Haruhi has given her a secondary role (She didn't even want Yasumi to join, but she was forced to allow her in because it was part of the mission to save her friends). friends).
Tsuruya is also a filthy rich genius that could go to the best schools in the world and yet attends a crappy prefecture high, high.
Kunikida stated admits that he only went to north High to meet Tsurya and he was the only friend of Kyon's in high school before the Brigade, thetefore Haruhi broght him to keep Kyon company. company.
As Haruhi comes closer to coming to terms with herself, herself and her power, Tsuruya starts having a mor more explicit role, providing the treasure map and the cabin fot for the Sonwy Mountain syndrome Syndrome so they can have fun and becoming closer to all the gang, but always staying in the sidelines and refaining refraining to question anything, since tht's not the job Haruhi gave her.
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On the other hand, as a government agent, Tsuruya would have access to facilities to bring the SOS Brigade to for observation and study under the guise of having her family "own" them. Another giveaway is the skillful and police-like questioning Tsuruya often subjects Kyon to. She's trying to play the "good cop" and claim not to really care what is going on as long as Kyon takes care of Mikuru. However, she skillfully questions Kyon to let him know that she knows good and well what is going on then backs off, trying to draw him out. Tsuruya being an undercover agent would also explain her combat training abilities (alluded to in the movie and shown to humorous excess in the Haruhi Suzumiya-chan spinoff cartoons).

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On the other hand, as a government agent, Tsuruya would have access to facilities to bring the SOS Brigade to for observation and study under the guise of having her family "own" them. Another giveaway is the skillful and police-like questioning Tsuruya often subjects Kyon to. She's trying to play the "good cop" and claim not to really care what is going on as long as Kyon takes care of Mikuru. However, she skillfully questions Kyon to let him know that she knows good and well what is going on then backs off, trying to draw him out. Tsuruya being an undercover agent would also explain her combat training abilities (alluded to in the movie and shown to humorous excess in the Haruhi Suzumiya-chan spinoff cartoons).cartoons).

[[WMG:Tsuruya is a manifestation of Haruhi's subconcious.]]

In the same way that Yasumi was created to save the brigade from that particular crisis, Tsuruya in there for a more permanent kind of support. It has been stated that the Tsuruya family is strongly linked to Koizumi's Organization, wich in turn provide for a lot of the Brigade's adventures. She protects and gives moral support to Mikuru, so Haruhi doesn't feel guilty about abusing her. She blatantly flirts with Kyon so as to express Haruhi's feelings, but never seriously because Heruhi wants him for herself. Koizumi mentions that Tsuruya may be having her own adventures offstage, wich would satisfy Haruhi's fancy for great adventure without cutting into the brigade's time. The similitude between them is explicitly and frecuently metioned. She supports all that Haruhi does, but stays out of the limelight because Haruhi has given her a secondary role (She didn't even want Yasumi to join, but she was forced to allow her in because it was part of the mission to save her friends). Tsuruya is also a filthy rich genius that could go to the best schools in the world and yet attends a crappy prefecture high, Kunikida stated that he only went to north High to meet Tsurya and he was the only friend of Kyon's in high school before the Brigade, thetefore Haruhi broght him to keep Kyon company. As Haruhi comes closer to coming to terms with herself, Tsuruya starts having a mor explicit role, providing the treasure map and the cabin fot the Sonwy Mountain syndrome so they can have fun and becoming closer to all the gang, but always staying in the sidelines and refaining to question anything, since tht's not the job Haruhi gave her.
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On the other hand, as a government agent, Tsuruya would have access to facilities to bring the SOS Brigade to for observation and study under the guise of having her family "own" them. Another giveaway is the skillful and police-like questioning Tsuruya often subjects Kyon to. She's trying to play the "good cop" and claim not to really care what is going on as long as Kyon takes care of Mikuru. However, she skillfully questions Kyon to let him know that she knows good and well what is going on then backs off, trying to draw him out. If it was the US, she would certainly be an undercover FBI agent.

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On the other hand, as a government agent, Tsuruya would have access to facilities to bring the SOS Brigade to for observation and study under the guise of having her family "own" them. Another giveaway is the skillful and police-like questioning Tsuruya often subjects Kyon to. She's trying to play the "good cop" and claim not to really care what is going on as long as Kyon takes care of Mikuru. However, she skillfully questions Kyon to let him know that she knows good and well what is going on then backs off, trying to draw him out. If it was the US, she would certainly be Tsuruya being an undercover FBI agent.agent would also explain her combat training abilities (alluded to in the movie and shown to humorous excess in the Haruhi Suzumiya-chan spinoff cartoons).
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I think Tsuruya is a Japanese intelligence agent!


This doesn't mean she is the Anti-[=SoS=] Kyon. She could be a rival Writer God to Kyon's True God WMG. If Kyon is a reality anchor, Tsuruya could be another who is aware enough of her nature to attempt to remain untethered to Haruhi.

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This doesn't mean she is the Anti-[=SoS=] Kyon. She could be a rival Writer God to Kyon's True God WMG. If Kyon is a reality anchor, Tsuruya could be another who is aware enough of her nature to attempt to remain untethered to Haruhi.Haruhi.

[[WMG: Tsuruya is a government agent]]
Tsuruya is working for the Defence Intelligence Office DIO [Jouhou Honbu] or the National Police Agency [NPA - Keisatsuchi] in a sort of "X-Files" role. The Japanese special intelligence services long ago detected anomalies occurring at North High and around Haruhi Suzumiya and inserted Tsuruya as an agent to find out what is going on. As there is nothing really "weird" about Tsuruya, other than being a government agent, Haruhi did not subconsciously drag her into the SOS Brigade - although Haruhi tolerates her as an "associate member."

In this guise, Tsuruya is probably older than a High School student but just has a younger appearance. This makes a lot more sense than her being so fabulously wealthy. She is supposed to be so wealthy that her family owns numerous houses and even numerous ski resorts. There is no way that an heiress with such a background is going to be attending a broken down prefectural school! An heiress of this level would be in Eaton or something.

On the other hand, as a government agent, Tsuruya would have access to facilities to bring the SOS Brigade to for observation and study under the guise of having her family "own" them. Another giveaway is the skillful and police-like questioning Tsuruya often subjects Kyon to. She's trying to play the "good cop" and claim not to really care what is going on as long as Kyon takes care of Mikuru. However, she skillfully questions Kyon to let him know that she knows good and well what is going on then backs off, trying to draw him out. If it was the US, she would certainly be an undercover FBI agent.

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