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We know [[AllThereInTheManual they're the result of alien experiments]] and that they're extremely susceptible to genetic manipulation and transmogrification. And [[Disney/LiloAndStitch Stitch]] certainly seems to have many of the same personality traits exhibited by the Gremlins, often sliding from one extreme to the other.
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We know [[AllThereInTheManual they're the result of alien experiments]] and that they're extremely susceptible to genetic manipulation and transmogrification. And [[Disney/LiloAndStitch [[WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch Stitch]] certainly seems to have many of the same personality traits exhibited by the Gremlins, often sliding from one extreme to the other.
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Mr. Futterman mentions gremlins bringing down a lot of planes during World War II, him being an actual pilot during that time. When he sees the gremlins in the cab of his tractor, he instantly recognizes them as gremlins. Despite the gremlin being a myth to aviators as far back as World War I, there's a chance that the Nazis may have discovered Gizmo and used him to create gremlins. The Nazis would then unleash them onto American and British airbases in order to sabotage planes and bring them down during major air battles, and pilots who managed to survive labeled as gremlins due to the fact that they were small creatures causing damage to aircraft in a similar manner to the myth. This could account for how Futterman recognizes the creature in the cab as a gremlin, because he saw one of them before during an air raid and managed to survive.
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Mr. Futterman mentions gremlins bringing down a lot of planes during World War II, him being an actual pilot during that time. When he sees the gremlins in the cab of his tractor, he instantly recognizes them as gremlins. Despite the gremlin being a myth to aviators as far back as World War I, there's a chance that the Nazis may have discovered Gizmo and used him to create gremlins. The Nazis would then unleash them onto American and British airbases in order to sabotage planes and bring them down during major air battles, and pilots who managed to survive labeled as gremlins due to the fact that they were small creatures causing damage to aircraft in a similar manner to the myth. This could account for how Futterman recognizes the creature in the cab as a gremlin, gremlin because he saw one of them before during an air raid and managed to survive.
* This aslo accounts for why Mr. Wing is so protective of Gizmo and tries to keep him hidden from the outside world as long as he can: because he saw what the Nazis were doing to poor Gizmo and how they were using the Gremlins as weapons. He vowed to protect Gizmo from the outside world in order to make sure no harm comes to him again, as well as making sure that humanity doesn't use Gizmo and his kind as weapons again. Mr. Wing is old enough to have lived through World War II.
* This aslo accounts for why Mr. Wing is so protective of Gizmo and tries to keep him hidden from the outside world as long as he can: because he saw what the Nazis were doing to poor Gizmo and how they were using the Gremlins as weapons. He vowed to protect Gizmo from the outside world in order to make sure no harm comes to him again, as well as making sure that humanity doesn't use Gizmo and his kind as weapons again. Mr. Wing is old enough to have lived through World War II.
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Mr. Futterman mentions gremlins bringing down a lot of planes during World War II, him being an actual pilot during that time. When he sees the gremlins in the cab of his tractor, he instantly recognizes them as gremlins. Despite the gremlin being a myth to aviators as far back as World War I, there's a chance that the Nazis may have discovered Gizmo and used himto him to create gremlins. The Nazis would then unleash them onto American and British airbases in order to sabotage planes and bring them down during major air battles, and pilots who managed to survive labeled as gremlins due to the fact that they were small creatures causing damage to aircraft in a similar manner to the myth. This could account for how Futterman recognizes the creature in the cab as a gremlin, because he saw one of them before during an air raid and managed to survive.
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Mr. Futterman mentions gremlins bringing down a lot of planes during World War II, him being an actual pilot during that time. When he sees the gremlins in the cab of his tractor, he instantly recognizes them as gremlins. gremlins. Despite the gremlin being a myth to aviators as far back as World War I, there's a chance that the Nazis may have discovered Gizmo and used himto create gremlins. The Nazis would then unleash them onto American and British airbases in order to sabotage planes and bring them down during major air battles, and pilots who managed to survive labeled as gremlins due to the fact that they were small creatures causing damage to aircraft in a similar manner to the myth. This could account for how Futterman recognizes the creature in the cab as a gremlin, because he saw one of them before during an air raid and managed to survive.
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[[WMG: In the film's universe, the Nazis used the Gremlins in World War II.]]
Mr. Futterman mentions gremlins bringing down a lot of planes during World War II, him being an actual pilot during that time. When he sees the gremlins in the cab of his tractor, he instantly recognizes them as gremlins. Despite the gremlin being a myth to aviators as far back as World War I, there's a chance that the Nazis may have discovered Gizmo and used himto create gremlins. The Nazis would then unleash them onto American and British airbases in order to sabotage planes and bring them down during major air battles, and pilots who managed to survive labeled as gremlins due to the fact that they were small creatures causing damage to aircraft in a similar manner to the myth. This could account for how Futterman recognizes the creature in the cab as a gremlin, because he saw one of them before during an air raid and managed to survive.
Mr. Futterman mentions gremlins bringing down a lot of planes during World War II, him being an actual pilot during that time. When he sees the gremlins in the cab of his tractor, he instantly recognizes them as gremlins. Despite the gremlin being a myth to aviators as far back as World War I, there's a chance that the Nazis may have discovered Gizmo and used himto create gremlins. The Nazis would then unleash them onto American and British airbases in order to sabotage planes and bring them down during major air battles, and pilots who managed to survive labeled as gremlins due to the fact that they were small creatures causing damage to aircraft in a similar manner to the myth. This could account for how Futterman recognizes the creature in the cab as a gremlin, because he saw one of them before during an air raid and managed to survive.
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*** MadeOfWin.
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*** MadeOfWin.
JustForFun/MadeOfWin.
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[[WMG:The Gremlins are genetic experiments from the Lilo & Stitch universe]]
We know [[AllThereInTheManual they're the result of alien experiments]] and that they're extremely susceptible to genetic manipulation and transmogrification. And [[Disney/LiloAndStitch Stitch]] certainly seems to have many of the same personality traits exhibited by the Gremlins, often sliding from one extreme to the other.
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** New York has a Chinatown, as do a number of other U.S. cities. There was no indication that the shop was anywhere near San Francisco during the first film. Fail.
** No need to be so harsh. And while your point is valid, it doesn't disprove the original theory. While the shop could have always been in New York, Mr. Pelzer might very well not have been able to find it without the grandson's help, and it was Mr. Wing's death that took away the shop's magic and allowed it to be found and torn down.
** No need to be so harsh. And while your point is valid, it doesn't disprove the original theory. While the shop could have always been in New York, Mr. Pelzer might very well not have been able to find it without the grandson's help, and it was Mr. Wing's death that took away the shop's magic and allowed it to be found and torn down.
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** New York has a Chinatown, as do a number of other U.S. cities. There was no indication that the shop was anywhere near in San Francisco during the first film. Fail.
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**No need to be so harsh. And while your point is valid, it doesn't disprove the original theory. While the shop could have always been in New York, Mr. Pelzer might very well not have been able to find it without the grandson's help, and it was Mr. Wing's death that took away the shop's magic and allowed it to be found and torn down.
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[[WMG: Gizmo is a Time Lord.]]
And his little wooden carrying box is his TARDIS. You see Stripe hiding it when the gremlin in the Christmas tree attacks Billy's mom, and there's seriously no way Stripe would actually fit in that box, so clearly it's bigger on the inside. Stripe was trying to figure out how to steal Gizmo's TARDIS and run amuck through time and space when Billy interrupted him, so Stripe had to flee for his life (Billy did have a sword, after all).
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[[WMG: The Shop was the PetShopOfHorrors.]]
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[[WMG: The Shop was the PetShopOfHorrors.Manga/PetShopOfHorrors.]]
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[[WMG:Grandpa Fred is Palpatine]]
And he was the one who was really behind [[spoiler:the electrocution of the Gremlins at the end]]. Also, Dr Catheter survived and hitched a ride from the aliens who created the Mogwai ([[AdaptationDisplacement in the book]]) to [[StarWars a galaxy far, far away]], gaining the power to project electricity from his fingers.
** Alternatively, Grandpa Fred is one of Palpatine's clone bodies that became his own person. Horrified of the monster his "father" was, he chose to become good. He interviewed the Gremlins only to get close enough to destroy them.
[[WMG:Parts of the story were ghostwritten by [[ConspiracyTheorist David Icke]].]]
The Brain bears a suspicious resemblance to former Australian Prime Minister John Howard. Icke believes most of the world's leaders are reptilian creatures from outer space (in the book, the Mogwai were created by an alien scientist). Coincidence?
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[[WMG: Murray Futterman's stories about gremlins during WorldWarII UsefulNotes/WorldWarII actually happened.]]
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[[WMG: Gizmo could TakeOverTheWorld if his kids were ChaoticGood like him]]
Gizmo is kind and friendly, but his "children" are anything but. Of course, they are [[KidsAreCruel CHILDREN]]. They're born under frightening circumstances, and don't have the experience to know any better. They have the potential for understanding the feelings of others, as shown by their working together and manipulating humans, but they really don't know what they're doing like Gizmo does, and don't much care.
* Gizmo exhibits a level of empathy far beyond any of his spawn. He can not only use his cuteness to convince humans to help him, by being kind to them in turn he can ensure the relationship is mutually beneficial. He's not malicious because he doesn't need to be malicious to get what he wants, in fact malice is counterproductive. He's got better empathy than a lot of humans in fact.
** And [[ThePowerOfFriendship empathy is]] [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower kind of a superpower]]. How much of human progress has been a result of working together, developing permanent settlements and dividing labor? We've even benefited from working together with other species, by domesticating animals as companions, workers, and food supplies. In Gizmo's case, this is how he survived for so long, by befriending a human who could protect him from the sun.
* In addition to empathy, Gizmo (like all mogwai) has [[{{Technopath}} an instinctive understanding of machinery and how to screw with it]], an ability to [[ExplosiveBreeder reproduce in massive quantities]]. Imagine a species with better technological skill than humans, that can work together, and can vastly increase population at will. And they don't really seem to age either.
** All that's stopping Gizmo and his descendants is the fact that the little ones aren't interested in taking the long view.
[[WMG: By Gremlin standards, [[TimeAbyss Gizmo is unfathomably old]].]]
All the other mogwai and gremlins in the movies are a few days of age at most. Gizmo has been around for '''DECADES''' at least. It's like adolescents meeting someone tens of thousands of years old, and that's probably an understatement.
[[WMG: The reason Gizmo has never become a Gremlin is because he doesn't want to. Yet]]
He knows ItOnlyWorksOnce. He has wisdom far beyond his brethren, and knows that becoming a gremlin would make him bigger, and physically stronger, but make it even more difficult for humans to relate to him. For an immature mischief-maker, trading cuteness for power seems like a good deal, but Gizmo is smart enough to know that [[BewareTheCuteOnes power takes many forms]]. Physical strength is nothing compared to [[ThePowerOfFriendship having allies who can work with you and compensate for your weaknesses]], and [[HumansAreBastards humans are shallow creatures easily distracted by appearances]]. Becoming a gremlin would cause Gizmo to lose more than he would gain. Until he has enough friends who can understand him and look past his appearance that he no longer needs to be adorable to survive. That day may or may not ever come. But Gizmo knows it is not this day. And he might actually be immortal, so he's got time to wait.
Gizmo is kind and friendly, but his "children" are anything but. Of course, they are [[KidsAreCruel CHILDREN]]. They're born under frightening circumstances, and don't have the experience to know any better. They have the potential for understanding the feelings of others, as shown by their working together and manipulating humans, but they really don't know what they're doing like Gizmo does, and don't much care.
* Gizmo exhibits a level of empathy far beyond any of his spawn. He can not only use his cuteness to convince humans to help him, by being kind to them in turn he can ensure the relationship is mutually beneficial. He's not malicious because he doesn't need to be malicious to get what he wants, in fact malice is counterproductive. He's got better empathy than a lot of humans in fact.
** And [[ThePowerOfFriendship empathy is]] [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower kind of a superpower]]. How much of human progress has been a result of working together, developing permanent settlements and dividing labor? We've even benefited from working together with other species, by domesticating animals as companions, workers, and food supplies. In Gizmo's case, this is how he survived for so long, by befriending a human who could protect him from the sun.
* In addition to empathy, Gizmo (like all mogwai) has [[{{Technopath}} an instinctive understanding of machinery and how to screw with it]], an ability to [[ExplosiveBreeder reproduce in massive quantities]]. Imagine a species with better technological skill than humans, that can work together, and can vastly increase population at will. And they don't really seem to age either.
** All that's stopping Gizmo and his descendants is the fact that the little ones aren't interested in taking the long view.
[[WMG: By Gremlin standards, [[TimeAbyss Gizmo is unfathomably old]].]]
All the other mogwai and gremlins in the movies are a few days of age at most. Gizmo has been around for '''DECADES''' at least. It's like adolescents meeting someone tens of thousands of years old, and that's probably an understatement.
[[WMG: The reason Gizmo has never become a Gremlin is because he doesn't want to. Yet]]
He knows ItOnlyWorksOnce. He has wisdom far beyond his brethren, and knows that becoming a gremlin would make him bigger, and physically stronger, but make it even more difficult for humans to relate to him. For an immature mischief-maker, trading cuteness for power seems like a good deal, but Gizmo is smart enough to know that [[BewareTheCuteOnes power takes many forms]]. Physical strength is nothing compared to [[ThePowerOfFriendship having allies who can work with you and compensate for your weaknesses]], and [[HumansAreBastards humans are shallow creatures easily distracted by appearances]]. Becoming a gremlin would cause Gizmo to lose more than he would gain. Until he has enough friends who can understand him and look past his appearance that he no longer needs to be adorable to survive. That day may or may not ever come. But Gizmo knows it is not this day. And he might actually be immortal, so he's got time to wait.
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* Maybe they're ChaoticNeutral, while Gizmo has learned enough to realize the benefits of being ChaoticGood.
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* Mogwai are furry enough that their genitalia might not necessarily be visible at a glance, so there could be mogwai of both genders
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[[WMG: There ''is'' such a thing as a female Mogwai.]]
The reason we don't see any is because all the Mogwai in the movies came from the male Gizmo. And when one gremlin accidentally turns himself into a female, the other gremlins try to flirt with her, showing that they ''can'' feel sexual attraction. Thus, female Mogwai produce more females, and only females, much like how Gizmo only produces male ones.
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*** Maybe Yoda is the Double Evolution: Moghwai = Charmander. Gremlim = Charmeleon. Yoda = Charizard. Godzilla = Mega Charizard Y. Kiryu = Mega Charizard X
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** Alternatively, Grandpa Fred is one of Palpatine's clone bodies that became his own person. Horrified of the monster his "father" was, he chose to become good. He interviewed the Gremlins only to get close enough to destroy them.
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Gizmo is the product of a male/female sexual relationship. There are female Mogwai around somewhere, but are very rare.
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[[WMG: Gremlins takes place in the same world as WhoFramedRogerRabbit.]]
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[[WMG: Gremlins takes place in the same world as WhoFramedRogerRabbit.''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit''.]]
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- This is a headcanon, given that Gremlins have no visible genitalia, and the only way for them to breed given to us by the movies is the water reproduction.
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* I think something like that is what is vaguely suggested in the movie, that the state of mind of the Mogwai has something to do with how its offspring, so to speak, turns out. That the trauma of being hit with water, and the fear of what will happen, is cast into what is cast out of him, like a mixed emotional defense/duplication. In the sequel, Gizmo has been "Polluted" with TV, and his offspring are Wacky, Stupid, Angry and Violent.
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[[WMG: Gremlins takes place in the same world as WhoFramedRogerRabbit.]]
Mogwai/Gremlins are proto-toons, what the toons evolved from. Or, alternately, they share a common ancestor.
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Confirmed from the manga's point of view, more or less - Count D is seen selling something in a box that sings quietly to itself, and he tells the customer those three rules within the first few pages of volume one. Being D, he's smug and amused that it all went horrifically wrong, and he is not helpful in the least.
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Confirmed from the manga's point of view, more or less - Count D is seen selling something in a box that sings quietly to itself, and he tells the customer those three rules within the first few pages of volume one. Being D, he's smug and amused that it all went horrifically wrong, and he is not helpful in the least.
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[[WMG: Gremlins are a sub-species of [[Warhammer40K Orkz]].]]
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* The {{Novelization}} implies, but does not state, that this is so.
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[[WMG: Gremlins are a sub-species of [[Warhammer40K Orkz]]]].
They are basically smaller, animalistic Gretchens. They are also AlwaysChaoticEvil and naturally have some knowledge about machinery (which they use for sabotage), like an Ork. And they're green, just a little darker...
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They closely resemble [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarsier tarsiers]] in their [[UglyCute appearance]].
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They closely resemble [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarsier tarsiers]] in their [[UglyCute appearance]]. appearance]].
[[WMG: Murray Futterman's stories about gremlins during WorldWarII actually happened.]]
They may have been the same gremlins as in the movies.
Mr. Wing left his home country China when the Japanese started attacking. He took the Mogwai with him. On his way to America, Gizmo accidentally gotten wet and eventually came gremlins. Those gremlins may have gotten into American planes stationed in some countries along the way.
[[WMG: Murray Futterman's stories about gremlins during WorldWarII actually happened.]]
They may have been the same gremlins as in the movies.
Mr. Wing left his home country China when the Japanese started attacking. He took the Mogwai with him. On his way to America, Gizmo accidentally gotten wet and eventually came gremlins. Those gremlins may have gotten into American planes stationed in some countries along the way.
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[[WMG: Mogwai are a metaphor for pregnancy/childbirth/parenting, and Gremlins are [[FridgeHorror stillbirth/infant death.]] ]]
Chris Columbus wrote ''Gremlins'' around the time he married, and it's not a stretch to imagine that he was feeling insecurities regarding the family that he and his wife would be starting. Parenting comes with guidelines and rules ("much responsibility") and is often about keeping your children from posing a danger to themselves (in both films, its the Mogwai who feed ''themselves'' after midnight.)
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[[WMG: Mogwai are a metaphor for pregnancy/childbirth/parenting, and Gremlins are [[FridgeHorror stillbirth/infant death.]] ]]
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Chris Columbus wrote ''Gremlins'' around the time he married, and it's not a stretch to imagine insecurities regarding the family that he and his wife would be starting. Parenting comes with guidelines and rules ("much responsibility") and is often about keeping your children from posing a danger to themselves (in both films, its the Mogwai who feed ''themselves'' after midnight.)
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Chris Columbus wrote ''Gremlins'' around the time he married, and it's not a stretch to imagine that he was feeling insecurities regarding the family that he and his wife would be starting. Parenting comes with guidelines and rules ("much responsibility") and is often about keeping your children from posing a danger to themselves (in both films, its the Mogwai who feed ''themselves'' after midnight.)
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Chris Columbus wrote ''Gremlins'' around the time he married, and it's not a stretch to imagine insecurities regarding the family that he and his wife would be starting. Parenting comes with guidelines and rules ("much responsibility") and is often about keeping your children from posing a danger to themselves (in both films, its the Mogwai who feed ''themselves'' after midnight.)
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[[WMG: Mogwai are based off a real animal, at least partially]]
They closely resemble [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarsier tarsiers]] in their [[UglyCute appearance]].
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*** I find it more reasonable to say that Yoda species designed gremlins. Maybe they started genetic manipulation from a creature that was to them like the chimp to the human, a smaller less intelligent and furrier version. Otherwise, maybe Yoda is just to old for breeding.
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* Perhaps only one Mogwai per "litter" is ChaoticEvil, and the others are completely neutral until they become Gremlins? The unnamed Mogwai in the first film pretty much did whatever Stripe told them. (Billy even commented on it.) In the second film, Lenny and George didn't act until Mohawk commanded them, and Daffy was pretty much ChaoticNeutral throughout the movie. Perhaps if you can eliminate the "bad seed" Mogwai from each batch, the others can be turned to good like Gizmo?
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* Perhaps only one Mogwai per "litter" is ChaoticEvil, evil, and the others are completely neutral until they become Gremlins? The unnamed Mogwai in the first film pretty much did whatever Stripe told them. (Billy even commented on it.) In the second film, Lenny and George didn't act until Mohawk commanded them, and Daffy was pretty much ChaoticNeutral throughout the movie. Perhaps if you can eliminate the "bad seed" Mogwai from each batch, the others can be turned to good like Gizmo?
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** No need to be so harsh. And while your point is valid, it doesn't disprove the original theory. While the shop could have always been in New York, Mr. Pelzer might very well not have been able to find it without the grandson's help, and it was Mr. Wing's death that took away the shop's magic and allowed it to be found and torn down.
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