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[[WMG: Callie was the little girl in Egon's puppy experiment in ''Film/GhostbustersII''.]]
Callie noted that Egon wasn't there for her, mostly due to work. It would make sense that Egon would take her with him to his lab where he was running the emotion experiments, and even incorporate her into it so to not only keep an eye on her, but how she reacted.
Callie noted that Egon wasn't there for her, mostly due to work. It would make sense that Egon would take her with him to his lab where he was running the emotion experiments, and even incorporate her into it so to not only keep an eye on her, but how she reacted.
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** That, or Shandor really 'was' dead, with his spirit only returning to his reanimated corpse after Gozer manifested in Summerville.
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** That, or Shandor really 'was' dead, with his spirit only returning to his reanimated corpse after Gozer manifested in Summerville.
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** Confirmed for everyone except Oscar.
Oscar and Louis Tully.
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** Possibly Jossed; Janine doesn't seem to recognize Callie or be aware of what Callie was hoping to do (cash out and get back to NYC).
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Gozer and Egon together were the reason there have been so few ghosts for the last 30 years. Gozer was hoovering up the souls (as Sumerian death gods are wont to do), while Egon's [[spoiler: stream crosser kept inverting the portal and forcing Gozer back. Now that Gozer is trapped (in a ghost trap, not a parallel dimension), there will be a lot more ghosts around again.]]
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Gozer and Egon together were the reason there have been so few ghosts for the last 30 years. Gozer was hoovering up the souls (as Sumerian death gods are wont to do), while Egon's [[spoiler: stream [[spoiler:stream crosser kept inverting the portal and forcing Gozer back. Now that Gozer is trapped (in a ghost trap, not a parallel dimension), there will be a lot more ghosts around again.]]again]].
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** Given what we see [[spoiler: Egon is a poltergeist]], which is a specific form of ghost that can move object but usually can't be seen or herd. The only reason why he was able to ''visibly'' manifest [[spoiler: was because of the heightened spiritual engergy levels during the climax. ]]Even if he tried they likely wouldn't be able to hear him. [[spoiler: Knowing Egon this was probably intentional. He's likely aware of why ghosts exist and what it takes for certain one to manifest and thus directed his death in such a way that he would become one and thus still be able to watch over things until someone managed to work out and complete his plan.]]
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** Given what we see [[spoiler: Egon is a poltergeist]], which is a specific form of ghost that can move object but usually can't be seen or herd. The only reason why he was able to ''visibly'' manifest [[spoiler: was because of the heightened spiritual engergy levels during the climax. ]]Even if he tried they likely wouldn't be able to hear him. [[spoiler: Knowing Egon this was probably intentional. He's likely aware of why ghosts exist and what it takes for certain one to manifest and thus directed his death in such a way that he would become one and thus still be able to watch over things until someone managed to work out and complete his plan.]]
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[[WMG: [[spoiler:Why Egon didn't speak.]]]]
Other than the obvious real life reason, there's a possible explanation. In past films, we've seen that less powerful ghosts aren't known to speak. For example, Slimer in the films never spoke a word (in comparison to this animated series counterpart), but has roared, snarl and whine. Though Vigo the Carpathian is seen able to speak, he appeared to be rather powerful in comparison to Slimer. So, it's possible that the reason why [[spoiler:Egon doesn't say anything to his friends and family after finishing off Gozer]] is because he's not powerful enough to do so. Despite how much he would want to say his goodbyes, he is unable to do so due to the fact he was a lower level ghost and whatever boundary that separates the dead and living wouldn't allow him to do so in an intelligible way.
Other than the obvious real life reason, there's a possible explanation. In past films, we've seen that less powerful ghosts aren't known to speak. For example, Slimer in the films never spoke a word (in comparison to this animated series counterpart), but has roared, snarl and whine. Though Vigo the Carpathian is seen able to speak, he appeared to be rather powerful in comparison to Slimer. So, it's possible that the reason why [[spoiler:Egon doesn't say anything to his friends and family after finishing off Gozer]] is because he's not powerful enough to do so. Despite how much he would want to say his goodbyes, he is unable to do so due to the fact he was a lower level ghost and whatever boundary that separates the dead and living wouldn't allow him to do so in an intelligible way.
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** It would also explain why he was trying to sway Gozer over with the fact he built the tomb in her honor, and trying to pull a "We can rule together" (mostly because he knew he failed handling the Ghostbusters on his own) and she split him in half because she remembered what he did to her, and was still a little miffed about it.
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In this movie, one of the protagonists will mention having heard rumors of an all-female team fighting ghosts in in New York, but most will dismiss it because there were no reports to confirm whether or not the rumors are true.
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* Jossed. There's no mention of an all-female team at all.
* Jossed. There's no mention of an all-female team at all.
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[[WMG: Ghosts are back]]
Gozer and Egon together were the reason there have been so few ghosts for the last 30 years. Gozer was hoovering up the souls (as Sumerian death gods are wont to do), while Egon's [[spoiler: stream crosser kept inverting the portal and forcing Gozer back. Now that Gozer is trapped (in a ghost trap, not a parallel dimension), there will be a lot more ghosts around again.]]
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* Following the events of the Afterlife, Hades approaches the team. He congratulates them for [[spoiler: trapping Gozer, who Hades always thought was a jerk]]. But doing so created a sort of a gap, and some of the worst souls in Tartarus have escapes, so the Greek death god wants the Ghostbusters to get them back.
** Over the course of the movie, the Ghostbusters start to think Hades is playing them and behind the escape. But it turns out it is a third party (Hela?), who is hoping the Ghostbusters will take out Hades. Hades is actually being fair and honest (like he was in the original Greek myths).
Gozer and Egon together were the reason there have been so few ghosts for the last 30 years. Gozer was hoovering up the souls (as Sumerian death gods are wont to do), while Egon's [[spoiler: stream crosser kept inverting the portal and forcing Gozer back. Now that Gozer is trapped (in a ghost trap, not a parallel dimension), there will be a lot more ghosts around again.]]
[[WMG: Ghostbusters 4 ideas]]
* Following the events of the Afterlife, Hades approaches the team. He congratulates them for [[spoiler: trapping Gozer, who Hades always thought was a jerk]]. But doing so created a sort of a gap, and some of the worst souls in Tartarus have escapes, so the Greek death god wants the Ghostbusters to get them back.
** Over the course of the movie, the Ghostbusters start to think Hades is playing them and behind the escape. But it turns out it is a third party (Hela?), who is hoping the Ghostbusters will take out Hades. Hades is actually being fair and honest (like he was in the original Greek myths).
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* [[spoiler: There are a total of (at least) nine proton throwers in the movie. Four in the mine (partially disassembled and later destroyed), keeping the ghosts back and causing the quakes, and five in the final battle (Ray, Winston, Peter, Trevor, and Lucky/Phoebe). Even if Ray, Pete, and Winston built new packs after Egon left, that still means Ego built at least two more. Phoebe's pack may be an improved/lighter version. This is subtly implied when Phoebe asks Egon how he built such a small cyclotron, and he shows her all of his diplomas.]]
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* The only thing that's harder to reconcile between the two is how Shandor was a spirit in the game and appears in his body here, and it's possible that can be explained by his spirit astral projecting itself during his suspended animation to help keep his mind fresh and alert for when he is returned to action.
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[[WMG: Phoebe's skill with a proton pack and thrower]]
For a five foot tall, twelve-year-old, slightly built girl of presumably more intellectual interests in place of physical training, Phoebe handles a heavy pack (see Peter Venkman, grown man 6'2" tall, struggling to get the thing on in Ghostbusters II and staggering about a little doing so) and a thrower (which given the way we see grown men shaking while using it has clearly quite a sustained kick and bounce) without the difficulty one would expect. The movie does provide, during the final battle, a possible explanation: [[spoiler:Egon's spirit is seen supporting his granddaughter as she fires at Gozer. And given we've seen what was clearly his spirit guiding Phoebe in finding and repairing the pack she's using, it's not unlikely he's been beside her the entire time helping out, and that it's only at the end with the full brunt of paranormal energy concentrated at the farm that sufficient ambient energy was enough to shift him into visibility.]]
For a five foot tall, twelve-year-old, slightly built girl of presumably more intellectual interests in place of physical training, Phoebe handles a heavy pack (see Peter Venkman, grown man 6'2" tall, struggling to get the thing on in Ghostbusters II and staggering about a little doing so) and a thrower (which given the way we see grown men shaking while using it has clearly quite a sustained kick and bounce) without the difficulty one would expect. The movie does provide, during the final battle, a possible explanation: [[spoiler:Egon's spirit is seen supporting his granddaughter as she fires at Gozer. And given we've seen what was clearly his spirit guiding Phoebe in finding and repairing the pack she's using, it's not unlikely he's been beside her the entire time helping out, and that it's only at the end with the full brunt of paranormal energy concentrated at the farm that sufficient ambient energy was enough to shift him into visibility.]]
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[[WMG:Egon killed himself]]
Since his trap failed, and most likely injured after the car wreck, he knew he had no chance to escape. So to prevent himself from getting possessed he used the P.K.E. Meter's taser function on himself to trigger the heart attack that everyone else assumed was natural causes.
Since his trap failed, and most likely injured after the car wreck, he knew he had no chance to escape. So to prevent himself from getting possessed he used the P.K.E. Meter's taser function on himself to trigger the heart attack that everyone else assumed was natural causes.
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[[WMG: The small town in the middle of nowhere is hiding a longterm containment unit.]]
After the Manhattan Crossrip and the incident with Vigo the Carpathian the ghost busting business effectively dried up. With nobody trying to force their way into the mortal world there wasn't enough activity to keep the Ghostbusters in business nor enough funding to keep their facilities. Eventually Egon and Ray went out to find a place where they could safely build a longterm storage facility to hold all their catches for the foreseeable future since they couldn't just let the grid shut down in the middle of UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity. They found some stigmatized property owned by the Shandor family to study and set up the tech to run unmonitored until things picked up again then... it just never did. Egon spent his time researching the mines to see what Shandor had once been up to and keeping watch until one day he simply didn't wake up again leaving it unattended for years to slowly breakdown. Now its leaking, causing earthquakes as energy escapes, and threatening to cause another major crossrip incident.
After the Manhattan Crossrip and the incident with Vigo the Carpathian the ghost busting business effectively dried up. With nobody trying to force their way into the mortal world there wasn't enough activity to keep the Ghostbusters in business nor enough funding to keep their facilities. Eventually Egon and Ray went out to find a place where they could safely build a longterm storage facility to hold all their catches for the foreseeable future since they couldn't just let the grid shut down in the middle of UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity. They found some stigmatized property owned by the Shandor family to study and set up the tech to run unmonitored until things picked up again then... it just never did. Egon spent his time researching the mines to see what Shandor had once been up to and keeping watch until one day he simply didn't wake up again leaving it unattended for years to slowly breakdown. Now its leaking, causing earthquakes as energy escapes, and threatening to cause another major crossrip incident.
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[[WMG: The small town in the middle of nowhere is hiding a longterm long-term containment unit.]]
After the Manhattan Crossrip and the incident with Vigo the Carpathian the ghost busting business effectively dried up. With nobody trying to force their way into the mortal world there wasn't enough activity to keep the Ghostbusters in business nor enough funding to keep their facilities. Eventually Egon and Ray went out to find a place where they could safely build alongterm long-term storage facility to hold all their catches for the foreseeable future since they couldn't just let the grid shut down in the middle of UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity. They found some stigmatized property owned by the Shandor family to study and set up the tech to run unmonitored until things picked up again then... it just never did. Egon spent his time researching the mines to see what Shandor had once been up to and keeping watch until one day he simply didn't wake up again leaving it unattended for years to slowly breakdown. Now its leaking, causing earthquakes as energy escapes, and threatening to cause another major crossrip incident.
* Jossed. [[spoiler:A mountain near the town is a ritual site for Gozer and Egon was attempting to permanently prevent the entity from coming through.]]
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The person will be an [[UpToEleven even bigger dick]] than he was. They'll probably have a blog or [=YouTube=] channel dispelling ghosts and call the new Ghostbusters fakes.
The person will be an [[UpToEleven even bigger dick]] than he was. They'll probably have a blog or [=YouTube=] channel dispelling ghosts and call the new Ghostbusters fakes.
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He was there to release them. Cultish rituals deep underground are in-line with the eldritch theme of Ivo Shandor, Gozer, etc. Egon found one of Shandor's old mines and determined such a site could be used to open another cross-rip in the other direction, where all the ghosts boxed up in the containment unit could be released into the spirit realm. Except he died before he could finish the job, and now the containment unit, moved to the underground site, is deteriorating from lack of maintenance and causing problems for the nearby town of Summerville. Thanks to a combination of inheritance laws, destitution in his descendants, and his granddaughter being a GenerationXerox of him, the plot is set for the movie.
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