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[[WMG: Hatori can erase memories because...]]
*He's the dragon. Dragons really did exist in the far past, but used their memory wiping powers to make the rest of the world forget them, maybe because they were being hunted to extinction or some such sad thing.
*He's the dragon. Dragons really did exist in the far past, but used their memory wiping powers to make the rest of the world forget them, maybe because they were being hunted to extinction or some such sad thing.
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* But Akito's mother ''wanted'' him to be male, so that she could provide a "proper Sohma heir." It's part of why Akito has so many hang-ups about her sex, and women in general, by the time of the manga. Plus, sex-change surgeries and hormone therapy are long-term procedures; even if you could cover those up by saying that she's "sickly" and can't be seen, that would still be plenty of time for someone to notice that something was going on.
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*For the record, while Shigure is definitely a flirt he doesn't act like a womanizer. That is, he says stupid, perverted things (mostly because they get a rise out of people) but a sex addiction? No.
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[[WMG:Rin and Haru initially used sex as a comfort mechanism.]]
* It's a non-[[UnfortunateImplications squicky]] explanation for why they did it at such a young age, and a logical extrapolation of their unhealthy emotional states.
* It's a non-[[UnfortunateImplications squicky]] explanation for why they did it at such a young age, and a logical extrapolation of their unhealthy emotional states.
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** There's always the chance that Akira, Akito's father, was a product of inbreeding as well. The manga never mentions this, but the current generation certainly couldn't have been the first/second generation to practice inbreeding, right?
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[[WMG: The whole story was caused by the maids.]]
The only people who seem to blindly go along with the Sohma things, with no questions or self-doubt, are the maids. And if you look at the flashbacks, Ren seemed to be much more stable until everybody started telling her that she was just evilly seducing Akira. The maids seem to be the ones who started her on fearing that Akira would leave her. Imagine if they'd treated her like she was actually one of the family-- she might not have raised Akito to be so crazy, and in turn Akito might have been better-behaved towards the rest of the zodiac. So the whole story is really the maids' fault.
The only people who seem to blindly go along with the Sohma things, with no questions or self-doubt, are the maids. And if you look at the flashbacks, Ren seemed to be much more stable until everybody started telling her that she was just evilly seducing Akira. The maids seem to be the ones who started her on fearing that Akira would leave her. Imagine if they'd treated her like she was actually one of the family-- she might not have raised Akito to be so crazy, and in turn Akito might have been better-behaved towards the rest of the zodiac. So the whole story is really the maids' fault.
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*Add another tick to Ren Sohma's EvilMatriarch list: SHE STARVED HER DAUGHTER TO KEEP UP THE APPEARANCE OF THERE BEING A MALE HEAD OF THE FAMILY!!
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** Actually she probably is a Sohma by blood, as the family is so large and seems to be made up entirely of one family, even the maids who for whatever reasons are members of lower standing.
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** This is practically canon is you actually take a long look at Momiji's character. He is smart. He is the only one that will recognize the fact that they have purposefully ignored the Cat's fate. When his curse breaks he becomes a slightly colder personality and he has a manipulative streak in him, especially towards Kyo. This isn't to say that Momiji isn't a genuinely very kind and childish person at heart, but his is definitely OfuscatingStupidity.
*** The Sohma Family doesn't actually "really" need to be cult because for all intents and purposes they canonically are. The only difference is that their personal beliefs that drive their cult lifestyle are actually based in reality.
****Also, it is stated in the series that as soon as the Curse breaks the whole Sohma Family structure began to break down dramatically.
****Also, it is stated in the series that as soon as the Curse breaks the whole Sohma Family structure began to break down dramatically.
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* Funny idea but it was always my understanding that the curse functions in that way specifically, simply to keep members from forming simple and intimate relationship with other people "outside" of the curse, even to the point that they can't hug at last one half of their own biological family. Humans need touch in order to be mentally stable but Zodiac members "need" to only be close to God and the other Zodiacs.
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* I think Akito probably emotionally/mentally abused Kagura as much as he did everyone else (she seems to have loving parents but states that she felt horrible about her own existence, so something must have been getting to her behind the scenes) but had no cause to physically harm as she never got close to a male character, in Akito's eyes, who doesn't even recognize Kyo as someone anyone could enjoy spending time around.
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[[WMG: Akito is anorexic.]]
Breasts are mostly fat, right? It makes sense that she would essentially starve herself in an attempt to keep them small. It would explain how thin she is, her irritability and mood swings, her poor health and pallor, and, of course, how flat she is.
Breasts are mostly fat, right? It makes sense that she would essentially starve herself in an attempt to keep them small. It would explain how thin she is, her irritability and mood swings, her poor health and pallor, and, of course, how flat she is.
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[[WMG:Kyo and Yuki are TomAndJerry's reincarnations.]]
Makes sense to me.
Makes sense to me.
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Makes sense, doesn't it?sense to me.
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[[WMG:Kyo and Yuki are TomAndJerry's reincarnations.]]
Makes total sense, doesn't it?
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** Alternatively, he was only crying to get Tohru to comfort him...
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[[WMG: Akito never hurt Kagura because he's scared of her.]]
She's literally the ''only'' female Zodiac member that never is directly attacked in any way by Akito, even though she's obsessed with Kyo. Considering her...outbursts, maybe Akito was aware that unlike Kisa or Rin, Kagura would fight back and could potentially cause him a lot of damage.
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*The same might apply to Haru (although the same kind of lame backstory shows up in YamatoNadeshikoShichiHenge so it's possible he could have really reacted that way...)
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* But Ren is just a Sohma by marriage, not by blood. She was a maid.
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This is not so much a guess as a joke. Having only seen six episodes of the anime by the time this is written, nobody has had their sexual orientation brought up, and it is established that it takes a hug from the opposite sex to [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean bring out the animal in them.]] With that in mind, one might see the Sohma Curse as a case of SomethingElseAlsoRises. Of course, this all assumes FreudWasRight to begin with, which is likely not the case in a character-driven manga such as this.
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This is not so much a guess as a joke. Having only seen six episodes of the anime by the time this is written, nobody has had their sexual orientation brought up, and it is established that it takes a hug from the opposite sex to [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean bring out the animal in them.]] them. With that in mind, one might see the Sohma Curse as a case of SomethingElseAlsoRises. Of course, this all assumes FreudWasRight to begin with, which is likely not the case in a character-driven manga such as this.
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[[WMG:Tohru is [[TheMelancholyofHaruhiSuzumiya Haruhi Suzumiya]].]]
How likely is it that random {{bishounen}} would let her live in their house? Reality warping has to have a part in that.
How likely is it that random {{bishounen}} would let her live in their house? Reality warping has to have a part in that.
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[[WMG: The cat's grotesque true form is a result of a curse from god & not anger at the curse.]]
This troper got this guess based on the "true" origin of the zodiac curse. Summary: Basically god was lonely until he found companionship with a cat which gave him the idea of inviting other animals for a banquet whom became the members of the zodiac. Every night god & the animals partied until the cat fell on the verge of death. God then bound the cat, God & other animals in a circle of reincarnation which the other animals happily agreed to not wanting to be separated, however the cat disagreed stating that all things had to end. The other animals & God instead of musing upon what the cat said considered it an act of rejection. In anger at this supposedly betrayal, God cursed the cat to be born in its hideous state not only as "punishment" but to ensure that it would be unable to bond with other people, thus ensuring its complete devotion & making it that the cat would never want to leave God. Support for this would come from Kyo & Akito's relationship. Akito insists on preventing Kyo from forming relations with anyone insisting that only he [[spoiler:she]] will understand him.
This troper got this guess based on the "true" origin of the zodiac curse. Summary: Basically god was lonely until he found companionship with a cat which gave him the idea of inviting other animals for a banquet whom became the members of the zodiac. Every night god & the animals partied until the cat fell on the verge of death. God then bound the cat, God & other animals in a circle of reincarnation which the other animals happily agreed to not wanting to be separated, however the cat disagreed stating that all things had to end. The other animals & God instead of musing upon what the cat said considered it an act of rejection. In anger at this supposedly betrayal, God cursed the cat to be born in its hideous state not only as "punishment" but to ensure that it would be unable to bond with other people, thus ensuring its complete devotion & making it that the cat would never want to leave God. Support for this would come from Kyo & Akito's relationship. Akito insists on preventing Kyo from forming relations with anyone insisting that only he [[spoiler:she]] will understand him.
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* Although it's a good idea, the curse is triggered by exhaustion (the body becoming weak) as well as the hug from the opposite sex.
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[[WMG: Momiji is ObfuscatingStupidity]]
He acts like a child and pretends to cry whenever Kyo hits him hoping to catch him off gaurd and hit him back. The only reason why he hasn't yet is because he didn't want to do it in front of Tohru.
He acts like a child and pretends to cry whenever Kyo hits him hoping to catch him off gaurd and hit him back. The only reason why he hasn't yet is because he didn't want to do it in front of Tohru.
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[[WMG:Hanajima knew about the Sohma curse the whole time.]]
Since she is psychic, it is possible. Also, it was somewhat hinted at the end of the manga.
Since she is psychic, it is possible. Also, it was somewhat hinted at the end of the manga.
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[[WMG:The Sohma Family's InvoluntaryShapeshifting may be a Freudian Metaphor.]]
This is not so much a guess as a joke. Having only seen six episodes of the anime by the time this is written, nobody has had their sexual orientation brought up, and it is established that it takes a hug from the opposite sex to [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean bring out the animal in them.]] With that in mind, one might see the Sohma Curse as a case of SomethingElseAlsoRises. Of course, this all assumes FreudWasRight to begin with, which is likely not the case in a character-driven manga such as this.
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[[WMG:Hanajima's brother Megumi owns a {{Death Note}}.]]
He can ''curse'' people based on their names. Sounds familiar?
He can ''curse'' people based on their names. Sounds familiar?
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[[WMG:Tohru was bullied much more heavily than she lets on in flashbacks.]]
First of all, it isn't much like Tohru at all to keep grudges or dwell on tough experiences. The only reason we know about the rice ball incident at all is because it related to her problem at the time of feeling excluded from the Sohmas. When she gives her speeches of encouragement to other people it's usually that she quotes her mom and then tacks on a little bit of her own opinion. However, the first time she explained what Kisa was going through, not once did she mention "My mom used to say." Her relating to Kisa was way too specific to be just her theorizing on what she might have been going through, too. I think the game of Fruits Basket was just one part of the bullying, and Tohru and trouble telling her mom about it. This is why Kisa and Tohru became to close so fast, they could understand each other.
First of all, it isn't much like Tohru at all to keep grudges or dwell on tough experiences. The only reason we know about the rice ball incident at all is because it related to her problem at the time of feeling excluded from the Sohmas. When she gives her speeches of encouragement to other people it's usually that she quotes her mom and then tacks on a little bit of her own opinion. However, the first time she explained what Kisa was going through, not once did she mention "My mom used to say." Her relating to Kisa was way too specific to be just her theorizing on what she might have been going through, too. I think the game of Fruits Basket was just one part of the bullying, and Tohru and trouble telling her mom about it. This is why Kisa and Tohru became to close so fast, they could understand each other.
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boy.]]
He was raised to ''think'' he was a girl by his mother - who wanted him to be one, hence the cross dressing and 'hiding' his gender from the rest of the Sohma's. Being as obscenely rich as the Sohma family is, Akito's mother could certianly afford to have sex-change surgeries done to him, as well as medicines to help, with bribes to keep the doctors silent.
Well, that, or when he changes into the 'God' - like the others change into their Zodiac forms - he changes into a girl. But being The God, he can transform at will, which messes with his already frail body and mind, perhaps explaining his/her mysterious illnesses.
He was raised to ''think'' he was a girl by his mother - who wanted him to be one, hence the cross dressing and 'hiding' his gender from the rest of the Sohma's. Being as obscenely rich as the Sohma family is, Akito's mother could certianly afford to have sex-change surgeries done to him, as well as medicines to help, with bribes to keep the doctors silent.
Well, that, or when he changes into the 'God' - like the others change into their Zodiac forms - he changes into a girl. But being The God, he can transform at will, which messes with his already frail body and mind, perhaps explaining his/her mysterious illnesses.
