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(Addition after Ordeal Call and Arcade collaboration event) While Noah’s absence in the event’s story is very jarring considering he was the Grand Servant who got assigned to deal with Draco, in Arcade Babylon he never identified ''which'' Sixth Beast he was supposed to vanquish, so there’s a possibility that he got the wrong Beast VI half. As he was shown befriending Arthur during Chaldea Summer Garden, maybe, just like him, Noah’s true target is Beast VI/G, and he was deliberately sent to lose against Draco so that he would meet Arthur and exchange informations with him. Also, some keywords in Ordeal Call trailer imply that one of the trials might involve a Holy Grail War set in Tokyo, Prototype’s setting. Furthermore, depending on the game’s production schedule going forward, by the time Ordeal Call is implemented, Noah might be “allowed” to appear in the mobile version with little changes, as it will be over one year since his playable debut in Arcade.
But, again, we shall see…

* All Goetia are red herrings like Tamamo/Daji were for Koyan. That's why Nasu's taking years to reveal his identity and plays it as a mystery.

* Ars Nova stripped Goetia's clarivoyance. This man still has it.

[[WMG: Chaldean is technically Romani, but not really the Doctor . He's the version of Solomon of CHALDEAS, as a human.]]

* CHALDEAS is a different Earth and has another version of history, and Ars Nova specifically is only affects "this world."

[[WMG:A possible future Servant: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokoyo Tokoyo]].]]

** Arthur has gained a much better chance with his recent addition and the story reveals. Apparently, he was brought over from his timeline/world through collaboration with his Merlin...and ''Roman''. Given what we know about the latter, this is a huge red flag. The reason he's come to the world of Grand Order? Pursuing the Beast native of his home series... Remember, ''what'' are the Grand Classes manifested to do, again?

* [[http://fategrandorder.wikia.com/wiki/Foreigner The Foreigner class]] has been revealed[[note]]said class being anti-Berserker, but being weak to Alter Egos[[/note]], but the only servant in said class isn't playable at the moment...and it's likely getting released in the future (either with an entirely new servant, like with Edmond Dantes being the first playable Avenger, or the servant it's debuting with will be added to the gacha later), since the icon for the class is gold (which all playable servant class icons are) as opposed to red (which is what the icon for the Beast-class, the servants for which cannot be summoned, is colored).

** Maybe Saver will be appearing as a boss? I really don't think our Servants can even touch him. In Fate/Extra he only fought with 50% power and could still remove your Servant from the circle of reincarnation).

*** Actually, the best counter ''would'' be Buddha (who's already a servant, Saver), so the Grand Servant that would get called in as the counter would likely be called in to deal with III-L. Assuming that both are related to desire, it could be that Beast III is based around the Buddhist concept of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taṇhā Tanhā]], likely a desire for existance (III-R could be considered the first type of desire, since the concept of kama-taṇhā relates to sensual pleasure). Logically speaking, the best counter for III-L would be someone whose desire would either be existence (maybe perhaps a servant that's an embodiment of an idea - Guy Fawkes perhaps?) or [[DeathSeeker non-existance]], with Beast III-L having the desire that their counter doesn't have.'

* Dark Sakura is technically in now, as a Pseudo-servant with Kama of Hindu myth inhabiting her body. She's an Assassin however. [[spoiler:She's also (fittingly enough) a Beast.]]

There's an OutsideContextProblem everyone knows about but kinda forgets: Velber. While it is acknowledged as an important part of the backstory, it is also due to return in 14 millenia after previous visit and finish what it started back then, and the critical date is in the early 2030s, according to EX timeline, just around the corner - that both fits with urgency and the need for Daybit's intel about the universe around. Now, its modus operandi is to descend upon the planet and simply pwn everything on the surface into oblivion, and here's the catch: the surface is already blank. Destroying the landmasses won't change a single thing, and by all indications even Velber is incapable of breaching [[spoiler:CHALDEAS]]'s surface, lacking actual Anti-Planet armaments. Essentially, an OutsideContextProblem for and OutsideContextProblem. But it doesn't end here: Velber isn't destroying civilisations just ForTheEvulz - it wipes out excess possibilities, preventing the TimeCrash. And if the Foreign World utilizes the mechanism behind the Singularities and Lostbelts for its own continuous existence that would screw up the Quantum Time-Locks and timeline pruning (and it's implied it [[spoiler:stalls the progress of the civilisation inside]], dooming the timeline, so this protection is RequiredSecondaryPowers), thus preventing another fail-safe against the aforementioned TimeCrash. Thus it gives way to yet another OutsideContextProblem - making the TimeCrash inevitable and apparently polluting an ever-growing region of space, before someone both powerful and sentient enough notices this and figures out what to do (the Ultimate Ones of the Solar System most likely won't bother) - and THAT would possibly be the act Daybit is so concerned about, with him being aware of the universe at large and its goings on.

This would be, of course, a massive PoisonOakEpilepticTree if true, but consider the following:

** VI is probably the Beast equivalent of a cancer surgeon: Cut away anything that becomes a threat to the whole before it consumes everything.

* Since the ritual must be performed by mages, it might be speculated that the entirety of mages is preserved from losing the power after the end of the Age of Gods by the World, so that they still be able to trigger the failsafes, but I digress. The VII is an odd one - while the [[spoiler:Foreign World]] does try to preserve humanity through drastic means, [[spoiler:U-Olga-Marie]]'s behavior and stats are not consistent with the rest. Since it can produce Alter-Egos without issue, it might also be able to graft some Beast-like parts on a Saint-Graph as well, thus fooling the observers. Tying into another WMG and Koyanskaya's comments - there might be a completely different candidate. To foil [[spoiler:Marisbury's Grand Order]] one must restore humanity to Earth, thus - to force [[spoiler:CHALDEAS]] to do it. There's not much ways for this, but one of them - to take the Human Order as a hostage, for example, with Kadoc's Sirius Light, and thus - to endager it. Doing this and fighting against [[spoiler:Foreign World]] in general would mean employing Anti-Human Order. Thus the Beast VII candidate would be noone but Fujimaru, and their Logos would be Determination - persevering despite all odds against the superior threat, motivated by love for humanity, with possibility of going off the deep end without some sort of checks and counter-balances. Except that this time they ''do'' have these - Novum Chaldea, thus, unlike the rest, not fighting alone and employing the Beast system properly.

The Chaldean, now called Romani Archaman in the game, confirms that he is ''not'' Dr. Roman, but that leaves the question of who he is. Wodime is pretty sure that he is Goetia, but there is another theory out there; that he's actually Galahad. The eveidence goes as following:

* He sees CHALDEAS as his enemy. It was established very early on that Galahad doesn't aprove in any capacity the shit that Marisbury did while he was in charge.

The Beasts are not "merely" Evils of Humanity incarnate, they're ''yet another'' defense mechanism of the World, meant against truly apocalyptic threats - motivated by honest love for mankind and empowered by its evil side, i. e. primary driver for achievement and overcoming. That's because most of the shown ones can actually fullfill a certain function or another:

Unfortunarely, the system is not fool-proof, and thus prone to misfiring, producing a lot of collateral damage, re-interpreting the prime directive in a destructive way, and going off the rails in general, hence the need for another failsafe - Grand Servants and their summoning ritual.